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Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast
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Quick reaction: Browns take Taylen Green. How will they use him?
The Browns selected quarterback Taylen Green on Day 3 of the NFL Draft, adding a fourth quarterback to the mix. Green is big and fast and offers an intriguing option for the Browns, someone who they can try to develop and find ways to use as a weapon on offense. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the addition of Green in a post-draft video on Saturday. On this bonus edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, you can hear what they said about Green and how the Browns can and should use him. They also talk about where he fits in the quarterback competition and if he could put himself in the discussion to start. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 26, 202611 min
Browns were wheeling and dealing on Day 2 of the NFL Draft
It was a busy Friday night for the Browns and GM Andrew Berry. He made three trades and picked three players after making a trade and picking two players on Thursday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked all things Browns draft on our recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Was Berry able to ace another day of the draft? What could he have in store on Saturday when the Browns have more picks to spend? They also look ahead to Day 3 of the draft and if the Browns could make more trades, including for a veteran, or even draft a quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 25, 202626 min
Did the Browns ace the first day of the NFL Draft?
The Browns managed to land a tackle and a wide receiver on Thursday night in the NFL Draft. They selected Spencer Fano and KC Concepcion with their two first-round picks. Is that enough to say they did exactly what they needed to or could they have gone a different direction? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Day 1 draft recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing what the Browns did and if GM Andrew Berry had the right approach with the trade down and the picks he made. Then Tim Bielik joins the pod to talk about what he thought of the picks, what he would do on Day 2 and his favorite and least favorite first-round picks. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 24, 202635 min
What will the Browns do on Thursday night in the NFL Draft?
The Browns will go on the clock on Thursday night, either at No. 6 or potentially later if they trade down. They also hold the No. 24 overall pick. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe preview the opening round of the draft on a Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about what they would advise GM Andrew Berry to do with the No. 6 overall pick and what they would do with the pick. Should the Browns go wide receiver early and let the offensive line depth play out or should they attack their tackle position early? They discuss it all ahead of Thursday night’s first round. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 23, 202637 min
Browns QB battle begins: Deshaun Watson vs. Shedeur Sanders (but don’t forget Dillon Gabriel)
The Browns conducted their first voluntary minicamp practice on Tuesday and it offered up our first look at new head coach Todd Monken’s practice style and the quarterback competition. On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about everything they saw on the practice field on Tuesday. They start with Monken’s style. It was a long, physical practice and it set a tone of what we’re expecting from Monken as we wind towards training camp. Then they get into the quarterback competition. Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders are the clear frontrunners, but where does Dillon Gabriel fit in? Could Watson really win the job? How did Sanders look in Year 2? They cover it all on their Orange and Brown Talk minicamp recap. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 22, 202637 min
First look at Browns QBs, Todd Monken’s offense and a pivotal NFL Draft: Hey, Mary Kay!
It’s a new Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe. It’s a big week in Browns football, and we’re breaking down everything you need to know ahead of the NFL Draft and the Browns' voluntary minicamp. First, we preview what to expect at minicamp. We are getting our first glimpse of the highly anticipated quarterback competition and our first look at a full Deshaun Watson practice in 11-on-11 drills since 2024. How will he, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel look as they learn offensive coordinator Todd Monken’s new system? Then, we dive into the NFL Draft. What moves will give the Browns an "A" grade on Day 1? We discuss potential scenarios at picks No. 6 and 24, including the possibility of trading back, drafting offensive tackles and receivers or taking a flyer on a future franchise quarterback like Ty Simpson. Plus, we address the persistent trade rumors surrounding Myles Garrett, explain why an Anthony Richardson trade won't happen and reveal if the Browns went after defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 21, 202640 min
Dueling Browns mock drafts: We make every pick … twice
It’s time for another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland fire up the draft simulator for a seven-round edition of dueling mock drafts. Tim and Lance go head-to-head, making their own unique selections and debating their choices for every single Browns draft pick. From Tim’s overarching strategy of adding offensive playmakers to Lance’s focus on pure difference-makers and matchup winners, this episode covers every possibility for the Browns, including what they would do if GM Andrew Berry decides to trade out of the No. 6 overall pick. This would be a great episode to watch on YouTube if you haven’t done that yet. Head to our YouTube channel, Cleveland Browns on Cleveland.com, and click on the Podcasts tab. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 18, 20261h 10m
Reading between the lines of Andrew Berry’s Browns pre-draft presser
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down everything you need to know from Browns General Manager Andrew Berry’s pre-draft press conference on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast. With the NFL Draft just around the corner, they dig into Berry's most revealing comments and analyze what he strategically left unsaid. First, they tackle the fascinating quarterback room. Could the Browns snag a developmental arm like Ty Simpson or go after Garrett Nussmeier on Day 3? Next, they shift focus to offensive playmakers, discussing the potential of drafting an explosive Ohio State wide receiver like Carnell Tate at No. 6. They also explore the intrigue of adding a highly versatile, game-changing running back like Notre Dame’s Jeremiyah Love to ignite the offense. The conversation then explores the evolving defensive landscape. Will the Browns make a major draft investment in a hybrid safety to combat the league's elite pass-catching tight ends? Finally, they weigh in on the persistent rumors of Andrew Berry executing his signature move: trading down to accumulate future draft capital. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 16, 202633 min
Browns trade down to No. 12? Why mock drafts agree
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look at the latest NFL mock drafts and explore the very real possibility of the Browns trading down in the first round. Top experts like Todd McShay, Dane Brugler, Mel Kiper Jr. and even Ashley all had trade-down mocks come out on Wednesday. What’s the common thread? They all predict the Browns trading down to the No. 12 spot with the Cowboys. They break down what this blockbuster move could look like, including the potential of acquiring future draft assets or even an extra first-round pick. They also discuss which players the Browns might target if they make this move, from offensive tackles like Kadyn Proctor and Spencer Fano to dynamic playmakers like Kenyon Sadiq. They also look back at Andrew Berry's unpredictable draft history to remind us that anything can happen on draft weekend. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 15, 202631 min
What will Andrew Berry actually tell us before the NFL Draft?
On Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Browns GM Andrew Berry's annual pre-draft press conference. What can we really expect to hear from Berry on Thursday? They break down what they want to uncover, starting with the No. 6 overall pick. Could the Browns seriously consider drafting Notre Dame's generational dual-threat running back Jeremiyah Love? They also reflect on last year's Travis Hunter misdirection to figure out how to read the tea leaves this time around. Next, the discussion pivots to the wide receiver room. Does Berry truly believe Jerry Jeudy, Cedric Tillman and Isaiah Bond will thrive in Todd Monken's new offense, or will he draft a premium wideout? They also explore the possibility of trading the No. 6 pick for a proven, game-changing veteran receiver or even trading up for top-tier talent. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 14, 202637 min
Do the Browns have any NFL Draft surprises in store at No. 6? Hey, Mary Kay!
Monday means a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. With the NFL Draft less than two weeks away, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe kick things off by breaking down the Browns' upcoming voluntary bonus minicamp. They discuss what new head coach Todd Monken hopes to glean from these early practices, who might be in attendance and how Monken’s offensive philosophy could influence Andrew Berry’s draft strategy. Then, they dive into questions from our Football Insider subscribers. If the Browns stay at the No. 6 overall pick, what is the best play? They evaluate the offensive tackle landscape, the possibility of drafting a premier edge rusher like David Bailey and whether taking wide receiver Carnell Tate or running back Jeremiyah Love is a realistic option. They also explore what it would take for Andrew Berry to trade down to secure future draft capital. Finally, the conversation heats up with a debate about the quarterback position, as Mary Kay defends her controversial stance on why taking a swing at QB Ty Simpson at No. 6 might be a risk worth taking. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 13, 202649 min
Browns Draft Mailbag: Best Player vs. Biggest Need at No. 6
Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Host Dan Labbe is joined by Cleveland.com film analyst Lance Reisland, and Cleveland.com draft expert Tim Bielik as they open up the mailbag to answer your pressing Browns draft questions. With the Browns holding the No. 6 overall pick, they debate a crucial roster-building philosophy: Do you draft to fill a glaring need, or do you take the best difference-maker available? Reisland pounds the table for a "players over plays" mentality, making his case for drafting elite, field-tilting weapons like Jeremiyah Love or Caleb Downs. Meanwhile, Tim weighs the necessity of shoring up the offensive line with a tackle like Spencer Fano. The trio discusses how new offensive coordinator Todd Monken's system will influence the front office to target explosive playmakers. Later in the show, the crew explores under-the-radar Day 3 options. Could the Browns target a mid-round quarterback like Taylen Green or Haynes King just to run creative Wildcat packages? Who are the best late-round return specialists to completely elevate the special teams unit? Finally, Tim and Lance place their bets on whether Andrew Berry stays at No. 6 or trades down. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 10, 20261h 12m
Todd Monken’s blunt messaging sets tone in Browns offseason
On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from the Browns media room as they break down the latest from the team's offseason program. In this episode, they get into the refreshing, no-nonsense approach of new head coach Todd Monken. They discuss his blunt honesty regarding player attendance at voluntary workouts, exploring the ongoing debate around star pass rusher Myles Garrett's absence. They weigh the true importance of these spring sessions for building team camaraderie, learning new coaching schemes and setting a winning tone for the franchise. The conversation also tackles the quarterback competition. With the offensive installation underway, they talk about why mastering the playbook in the classroom is currently the most crucial step for Deshaun Watson, Shedeur Sanders and potentially Dillon Gabriel. Plus, hear the story of Monken's haircut "Snap Fu" that caused him to miss out on his very first NFL head coaches' group photo. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 8, 202627 min
What to expect as the Browns return: QB battle, Monken’s system and early roles
On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for the start of the Browns' offseason program. They break down exactly what to expect as players return to the facility this week. The biggest storyline? The quarterback competition. They discuss how Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson are approaching Todd Monken’s new offensive playbook from scratch and what it will take to win over the coaching staff. Plus, they do their very first vibes check of the year. How will Monken’s practice intensity, influenced by his time with John Harbaugh, change the feel of spring workouts compared to the Kevin Stefanski era? They also talk pass catchers, keeping a close eye on Jerry Jeudy’s bounce-back potential and where young playmakers like Isaiah Bond fit into the early depth chart. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 7, 202629 min
Could the Browns extend Deshaun Watson? Hey, Mary Kay!
It’s a Monday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe. The Browns officially kick off their offseason program on Tuesday and Mary Kay and Dan dive into the biggest storylines surrounding the team as they head back to the facility. The primary focus of this episode is the highly anticipated quarterback battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders. Answering questions from our Football Insider subscribers, the duo explores some fascinating thought exercises: What happens if Watson returns to his Pro Bowl form, and would it even be financially possible for the Browns to extend his contract? On the flip side, what would it mean for the franchise if Shedeur Sanders wins the starting job, and how will opposing defensive coordinators game plan for him now that there is tape out there? They discuss Todd Monken's evaluation of the offense and why the team desperately needs to add at least two more premier playmakers. Finally, the talk shifts to the NFL Draft. What would a home run trade look like if the Browns move down from the No. 6 pick? Mary Kay breaks down why acquiring 2027 draft capital might be the team's biggest priority. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 6, 202637 min
What the Browns revealed this week about the No. 6 pick and their QB competition
On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe wrap up the week by looking back at the key takeaways from the NFL owners meeting and gearing up for the start of the offseason program in Berea next week. First, Mary Kay and Dan dive into Andrew Berry's intriguing comments regarding the team's No. 6 overall draft pick. Will the Browns trade back to gather more draft capital for next year, or could a surprise trade-up be in the works? They break down the likelihood of moving the pick and what scenarios could impact that ultimate decision. Then, the focus shifts to the evolving quarterback competition. With Todd Monken installing his offense, they discuss how mobility will factor into the looming battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders. They also examine the importance of Watson getting a head start by building chemistry with wide receivers like Jerry Jeudy down in Florida. Finally, they cover why nobody should write off Dillon Gabriel, who will look to use his high processing speed and competitive drive to make some serious noise during the offseason. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 3, 202637 min
The 'My Guys' Draft: 10 NFL Draft prospects the Browns have to pick
Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Dan Labbe is joined by Lance Reisland and Tim Bielik for their latest dive into their favorite prospects. After sharing their dueling big boards last week, Lance and Tim are back to conduct a "My Guys" Draft. They each select five prospects they are absolutely pounding the table for the Browns to pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. Forget typical draft constraints, this show is about the tape and the players our analysts love. Tim targets aggressive defenders like Indiana corner D’Angelo Ponds and explains why analytics point to certain wide receivers thriving against zone coverage. Lance puts on his coaching hat to highlight violent trench warriors like Georgia Tech's Keylan Rutledge. The guys also rapid-fire their favorite honorable mentions to keep an eye on during Day 3 and undrafted free agency. Watch the full episode and follow along with the live draft board graphic on our YouTube channel. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, and follow Orange and Brown Talk on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Threads and Facebook. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Apr 2, 20261h 15m
What Todd Monken revealed about the Browns QB competition
On the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot joins Dan Labbe for one final check-in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Before Mary Kay catches her flight back to Ohio, she breaks down everything we learned from Browns coach Todd Monken during his media breakfast. The burning question on everyone's mind: What is the exact plan for the Browns' quarterback competition? Mary Kay and Dan discuss Monken’s strong hints that Shedeur Sanders might get the first crack at QB1 reps over Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel. They also dive into why off-season face time with the new coaching staff is critical. While Shedeur has been a regular in the building, building a rapport, Watson has only met Monken once and Gabriel has yet to make an appearance. With a completely new offensive scheme and a massive learning curve ahead this off-season, is the starting job truly up for grabs? Plus, get the hilarious behind-the-scenes scoop on exactly why Todd Monken accidentally missed the annual NFL coaches' group photo. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 31, 202627 min
Could Deshaun Watson actually win the Browns QB job?
On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe, Mary Kay checks in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Dan and Mary Kay break down the latest updates directly from Jimmy Haslam regarding the Browns' highly anticipated quarterback competition. They discuss Haslam's effusive praise for Deshaun Watson. Is the former "big swing and a miss" poised to finally be a home run for the Browns? They discuss Watson's physical condition, his ongoing recovery from multiple Achilles surgeries and why he might currently have the inside track to be the starter on opening day. They also talk about Shedeur Sanders' physical advantages, his renewed commitment to NFL excellence and the steep learning curve both quarterbacks face as they adapt to Todd Monken’s entirely new offensive scheme. Will Watson's veteran experience provide the necessary mental edge, or will Sanders' youthful resilience win out? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 31, 202625 min
Browns GM Andrew Berry shuts down Myles Garrett trade talk: Orange and Brown Talk
On the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot checks in from the NFL Annual Meeting in Phoenix to break down a very busy first day of news. Mary Kay and Dan Labbe dive into Browns GM Andrew Berry’s availability, where he firmly shut down recent trade speculations surrounding superstar defensive end Myles Garrett. Berry purposefully called Garrett a "career Brown," and Mary Kay provides insight into why the front office remains fully committed to keeping their core championship-caliber defense intact. Next, the conversation shifts to the quarterback room. Mary Kay unpacks the Browns' draft due diligence on developmental prospects like Ty Simpson and Garrett Nussmeier. Plus, they explore how the wide-open quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders might play out in new head coach Todd Monken’s system. Finally, get a preview of what's to come later this week in Arizona, including Jimmy and Dee Haslam's upcoming availability and Todd Monken’s next opportunity to meet with the media. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 29, 202632 min
Dueling big boards kick off Browns 2026 NFL Draft season
The Orange and Brown Talk podcast kicks off the 2026 NFL Draft season as Dan Labbe reunites the draft crew, Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. This episode features dueling big boards, where Tim and Lance go head-to-head, unveiling their Top 10 prospects in a back-and-forth format. While both experts agree that Ohio State safety Caleb Downs is the consensus No. 1 player, the boards branch off from there. The episode also includes the usual tangents: Should the Browns select the best player available if Downs falls to them at pick No. 6, or is it more critical to trade down and address significant offensive needs like left tackle and wide receiver? They get into other top-tier talents, including versatile linebacker Arvell Reese, explosive playmaker Jeremiyah Love and top quarterback prospect Fernando Mendoza. They break down the strengths and weaknesses of the premier offensive linemen and wide receivers in the class, comparing players like Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon, Francis Mauigoa, and Monroe Freeling. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 26, 20261h 15m
The Browns rebuilt their O-line, but did they fix it?
The Browns have been busy this offseason, completely remaking their offensive line. On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe welcomes Lance Reisland to break down all the moves. Lance dives into the film on the new additions, including right tackle Tytus Howard, guard Zion Johnson and the versatile Elgton Jenkins. They start by looking back at what went wrong with the line last season, from injuries and a lack of identity to the ongoing quest to replace Bill Callahan. Lance explains how this new group differs from the maulers of the past, focusing more on technique, leverage and savvy play rather than pure brute force. He discusses the importance of availability and how these new players bring a different, more functional approach to the trenches. They discuss the impact of new offensive line coach George Warhop and why his veteran experience is crucial. They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating who the Browns might target if they decide to take a tackle at pick No. 6 or a guard at No. 24. (Please note: This episode was recorded before any decision was made by Joel Bitonio regarding his future.) Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 25, 202638 min
What are the Browns really doing at quarterback? Hey, Mary Kay!
On a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the latest Browns buzz, including former receiver Jarvis Landry. Landry's recent podcast comments about his time in Cleveland and former coach Kevin Stefanski have stirred up debate. Mary Kay provides context to the 2021 season and the dynamics in the building. They also get into the upcoming NFL Draft. With Ohio State continuing to produce elite receivers, should that success influence the Browns to draft Carnell Tate at No. 6? They discuss the increasing value of top-tier receivers on rookie contracts. The draft talk naturally leads to the quarterback position. Should the Browns give Shedeur Sanders the starting job to see what they have, or could a prospect like Alabama's Ty Simpson be a surprise pick? They break down the potential quarterback battle between Sanders and Deshaun Watson and what it means for the franchise moving forward. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 24, 202652 min
Smart or settling: Is the Browns’ offseason approach right?
On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the second wave of the Browns' free agency moves. Mary Kay runs down the list of recent additions, including defensive linemen Kalia Davis and A.J. Epenesa, and they analyzes what these depth signings signal about the team's overall strategy. The discussion then shifts to the bigger picture. With a Super Bowl-caliber defense, are the Browns making a mistake by not being more aggressive to add offensive firepower? They debate whether the team is being wisely pragmatic or potentially wasting a prime window. They explore the wide range of possible outcomes for the upcoming season, the impact of the salary cap and the front office's apparent shift to a draft-and-develop philosophy. Finally, they break down the Browns' unique proposal to the NFL to allow teams to trade draft picks five years into the future. They discuss the NBA-style thinking behind the proposal and how it reflects Andrew Berry's progressive approach to team building. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 20, 202638 min
Who Are the Browns’ No. 1 seeds after Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward? 4 burning questions
On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into four Browns questions. Inspired by March Madness, they debate who would join Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward as the four No. 1 seeds in a 64-player roster bracket. Are the other top players established veterans or impressive rookies? Next, they look into their crystal ball to predict which under-the-radar player will be a major topic of conversation by November. Could it be a speedy receiver or a versatile weapon? They also analyzes the impact of free agency, discussing which departed or potentially departing players the Browns will miss the most. Finally, they try to identify the next fan-favorite cult hero, searching for the player ready to capture the hearts of Browns fans. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 19, 202646 min
First impressions of the Browns’ new additions: Quincy Williams, Tytus Howard and a rebuilt line
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down their first impressions of the newest Browns after hearing from them in their introductory press conferences. First, they dive into linebacker Quincy Williams. What did they make of his energetic cheetah mentality and his dynamic personality? They discuss how Williams, with a massive chip on his shoulder after a frustrating final year with the Jets, could thrive in Mike Rutenberg's defensive system. They explore if he could have a career revival similar to other veterans who have joined this defense. Then, the focus shifts to the rebuilt offensive line and new right tackle Tytus Howard. Mary Kay was surprised by his high praise for rookie Shedeur Sanders, especially given his history blocking for Deshaun Watson during his best seasons. The hosts analyze what his comments mean for the quarterback room and discuss the leadership Howard and Elgton Jenkins will bring to this new line. Finally, they look at the Browns' overall strategy of blending veteran experience with an exceptionally young roster before a tangent about a meteor and Bigfoot sightings in Northeast Ohio. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 18, 202633 min
Offense or defense? Breaking down the Browns’ No. 6 pick
The Browns hold the No. 6 pick in the NFL Draft, but their decision might not be as straightforward as it looks. On this Hey Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe cover everything from the Browns’ NFL Draft, to quarterback plans and the offseason program. Will Andrew Berry go offense or defense with the No. 6 pick? While a tackle or receiver seems like the logical choice, could a top-rated defensive player like Caleb Downs or Arvell Reese be too good to pass up? They discuss the unpredictability of the Browns' front office and the very real possibility of trading down to acquire future assets, especially with an eye on next year's quarterback class. The conversation then shifts to the revamped offensive line. With Tytus Howard confirming he's the right tackle, what does the future hold for Dawand Jones? They also break down the versatility of players like Elgton Jenkins and the ongoing questions at center and guard. Plus, they get into the quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders, how Todd Monken will build his new scheme around his starter and why this year's offseason program is more critical than ever. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 16, 202645 min
Meet 3 of the Browns' newest additions
The Browns introduced three of their free agent signings on Friday in Zoom calls with local reporters. Linebacker Quincy Williams, guard/center Elgton Jenkins and guard Zion Johnson all answered questions from reporters. On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to edited versions of those press conferences, featuring the best of what the three had to say and more. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 14, 202626 min
Shedeur Sanders’ opportunity, O-line rebuild and the plan at No. 6: Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into questions from Football Insider subscribers following the first wave of free agency. They start by analyzing the Browns' revamped offensive line. While PFF grades for the new additions may be concerning, Mary Kay and Dan explain why the collective fit is more important than individual ratings and discuss how Joel Bitonio’s pending retirement decision impacts the team’s plans. The conversation then shifts to the pivotal quarterback situation. They explore the ideal scenario for the Browns: Shedeur Sanders seizing the starting role and proving he’s the franchise quarterback, a “lottery ticket” outcome that would solve many future problems. This is contrasted with the complicated decisions the team would face if Deshaun Watson returns to form. Finally, they look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating whether the Browns will take the best player available at pick No. 6. They discuss which positions the team views as premium and whether they should target a game-changing wide receiver, a trench player or another position entirely to elevate the roster. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 13, 202642 min
Did Andrew Berry fix the Browns’ offensive line? Plus the latest on a Shedeur Sanders-Deshaun Watson QB battle
The new league year is here, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are breaking down all the latest Browns moves on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by grading Andrew Berry's aggressive overhaul of the offensive line, analyzing the additions of players like Tytus Howard and Zion Johnson. Did the GM ace his biggest offseason assignment? The crew then shifts to the remaining needs on offense, debating whether the Browns have done enough to improve their weapons. They discuss the state of the wide receiver room and whether the team can rely on its current players, like Jerry Jeudy and Ced Tillman, to step up under new head coach and play-caller Todd Monken. The quarterback situation is also a hot topic, as they explore the likelihood of the Browns entering the season with a competition between Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson. Finally, they provide an important update on Joel Bitonio, explaining why the veteran guard has earned the right to take his time with his retirement decision and what his future means for the newly constructed line. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 12, 202643 min
Browns rebuilding the offensive line, then breaking NFL news crashes the podcast
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are back to recap Day 2 of free agency on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, an episode that went off the rails in the best way possible. They start by diving deep into the Browns' offensive line rebuild, analyzing the new additions of Elgton Jenkins and re-signing of Teven Jenkins. They discuss what the starting five might look like and what these moves could mean for Joel Bitonio's future with the team. Then, in a wild turn of events, major NFL news breaks mid-recording. Listen to their real-time reaction as they learn that the Baltimore Ravens have backed out of the blockbuster trade for Maxx Crosby due to a failed physical. They break down the immediate implications for the Raiders, the Ravens and the potential domino effect across the entire league as free agency continues. The episode wraps up with a look at the Browns' pass-catchers and whether the team still needs to make a significant addition to the receiver room. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 11, 202628 min
Browns make their first moves in free agency: What do they mean
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are breaking down all the action from Day 1 of the NFL's legal tampering period on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. The Browns made two significant moves, signing former Chargers guard Zion Johnson and Jets linebacker Quincy Williams. We get into how both players fit, with a special focus on Williams' connection to new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg and how Johnson brings much-needed durability to the offensive line. We also discuss how the Williams signing came together after the Browns lost Devin Bush to the Bears. But what about the moves the Browns didn't make? Should they have been more aggressive in pursuing quarterback Malik Willis, who landed in Miami? We debate whether passing on Willis was a mistake. Plus, the wide receiver room is still a question mark. Is a trade for Jacksonville's Brian Thomas a realistic possibility? We look at Andrew Berry's history of trading for receivers and what the team might do next to add weapons to the offense before the NFL Draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 10, 202646 min
Should the Browns make a run at Malik Willis?
On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the Browns' latest offseason move: the annual restructuring of Deshaun Watson's contract. They explain why this was a necessary bookkeeping move to get under the salary cap and how it frees up money for free agency. The crew discusses how this strategy, while common for teams with high-priced quarterbacks, stings more when you haven't gotten elite performance in return. With new cap space, the focus shifts to the quarterback position. Should the Browns make a bold, aggressive run at free agent Malik Willis, a player they nearly drafted in 2022? The hosts debate the pros, cons and potential price tag. They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, breaking down the early top-30 visit from Alabama QB Ty Simpson. They analyze his connection to offensive coordinator Todd Monken and where he could land in the draft. Plus, they discuss another key visitor, top wide receiver prospect Carnell Tate, and what it means for the Browns' plans with their first-round pick. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 6, 202640 min
How the Browns new coordinators can change the game
On this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are back in Berea to break down the introductory press conferences for the Browns' new coordinators. First up: Defensive Coordinator Mike Rutenberg, who lived up to his high-octane reputation. They discuss his energetic, emotional style, his philosophy of playing violent football and the invaluable addition of veteran coach Dom Capers to his staff. They analyze how Rutenberg plans to follow the tough act of Jim Schwartz by focusing on relationship-building. Next, they turn to new Offensive Coordinator Travis Switzer. They explore his complementary role to head coach and play-caller Todd Monken, his expertise in the run game and the coaching staff's belief that a new system can elevate players like Jerry Jeudy. They also get into the quarterback situation, the team's public support for Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders and whether a big move could still happen. Finally, they touch on new Special Teams Coordinator Byron Storer and the challenge he faces in fixing a unit that was a major liability last season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 5, 202636 min
Should the Browns chase Kyler Murray? Breaking down the fit and the risk
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news that the Cardinals are releasing quarterback Kyler Murray. They discuss whether the Browns should pursue the former No. 1 overall pick, weighing his tantalizing mobility and talent against the red flags of his health and consistency. They also debate the Browns' other quarterback options. Should they stand pat and let Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders compete? Is Malik Willis a realistic target, or will he be too expensive? Could taking a flyer on a raw but talented prospect like Anthony Richardson be a worthwhile gamble for Todd Monken to develop? Finally, they look ahead to the introductory press conferences for the Browns' new coordinators. What are they most interested in hearing from new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg and offensive coordinator Travis Switzer. They touch on the influence of veteran coach Dom Capers and what the hiring of Switzer, a former run game coordinator from Baltimore, says about the team's offensive philosophy for the upcoming season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 4, 202639 min
Browns make their first big move: What it means for the draft and at QB
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are back from the NFL Combine and ready to break down the latest Browns news. They start with the team's first big offseason move: the trade for offensive lineman Tytus Howard, which includes a three-year, $63 million extension. How does this acquisition impact the Browns' draft strategy? Dan and Mary Kay discuss whether the team will still target a top offensive tackle or if this move gives them the flexibility to address other needs. The conversation then shifts to the most-talked-about position: quarterback. The hosts analyze the open competition plan and debate whether the starting job will come down to a battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders. They explore why new head coach Todd Monken would prefer to have his QB1 decided before training camp begins. With free agency and the draft approaching, they also touch on other potential quarterback scenarios, the unlikelihood of landing Malik Willis and the general unpredictability of the NFL offseason. Listen for all the post-combine analysis and insider insight on how the Browns' roster is beginning to take shape. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mar 3, 202636 min
Is there a quarterback for the Browns in this draft?
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are wrapping up their week at the NFL Combine, but first it’s a Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Today it’s all about the quarterback and wide receiver prospects. The main discussion centers on Alabama QB Ty Simpson. Mary Kay shares her positive first impressions and details his interesting connection to Browns head coach Todd Monken through his father. The crew debates how far Simpson would have to fall for the Browns to draft him and if he's a realistic option to challenge Shedeur Sanders. They also explore the "damaged goods" nature of this QB class, looking at potential value picks on Day 2 or 3 like Garrett Nussmeier and Medina native Drew Allar, both of whom have shown flashes of high-end talent. The conversation then shifts to the deep wide receiver class. Ashley details her interview with Jordyn Tyson, the brother of Cavs player Jaylon Tyson, and his potential as a precise route runner. Finally, they debate the Browns' biggest draft needs, weighing the value of taking a premium receiver like Carnell Tate at pick No. 6 versus addressing the offensive line. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 28, 202631 min
What can we believe about the Browns’ QB plans?
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are are still at the NFL Combine, but first they take a pod to reset some of what they’ve heard the first three days on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. The Browns quarterback room is the main topic of conversation. With Andrew Berry and Todd Monken heaping praise on both Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson, is a training camp battle inevitable? Or could the front office have another move up its sleeve? They discuss if the public comments are genuine or a smokescreen for a bigger move, like a trade for former first-round pick Anthony Richardson. They debate whether adding another QB would muddy the waters or if it's the type of move to expect from Berry. Then, the conversation shifts to the defense and a key upcoming free agent: linebacker Devin Bush. After a career-revitalizing season, is bringing Bush back the team's No. 1 priority? Mary Kay explains why he's so important to the defense, his journey back from a torn ACL and what his next contract could look like. The group analyzes how his performance has been a huge win for the front office and why continuity on defense is crucial heading into next season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 27, 202633 min
How much does Todd Monken believe in the Browns QB room? Day 2 combine recap
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from the NFL Combine to break down everything from new head coach Todd Monken's highly anticipated press conference. The crew discusses how Monken's refreshing, candid and genuine style is a significant change of pace from the buttoned-up approach of his predecessor, Kevin Stefanski. A major topic of discussion was the quarterback room. Monken offered glowing praise for Shedeur Sanders, calling him an "elite playmaker" and stating unequivocally that he could be ready to start Week 1. The hosts also analyze Monken's comments on Deshaun Watson. They explore the coach's open-mindedness and confidence in his ability to rekindle Watson's past success, while also considering the significant physical hurdles Watson must overcome after multiple major surgeries. The conversation also touches on the young, energetic coaching staff Monken has assembled, including new DC Mike Rutenberg, and the overall feeling that "Todd is just Todd." Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 26, 202624 min
Did Andrew Berry give Browns fans any clues about quarterback? Combine Day 1 recap
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley and Dan Labbe are at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis all week on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. The crew breaks down everything from Browns GM Andrew Berry's press conference. While Berry didn't reveal all his cards, the quarterback position was front and center. They discuss the ongoing competition between Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson, and Berry's confirmation that the team is exploring all external options, including names like Malik Willis and Ty Simpson. With Berry open to a training camp battle, it's clear that anything can happen. The conversation then shifts to the highly anticipated press conference with new head coach Todd Monken. Will his "loose cannon" style provide more definitive answers on the offense? Plus, the hosts dive into other key takeaways from Berry's availability, including a potential overhaul of the offensive line, the uncertain future of cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. following his Achilles injury and the unfortunate news regarding linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah's career. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 25, 202629 min
A JOK update, Deshaun Watson’s chances and QB options: Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get you ready for the NFL Combine. First, they start with some unfortunate news on linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. Mary Kay has an update on his status after his scary neck injury, and it's not what Browns fans want to hear. Then, they dive into the quarterback position. What are the pros and cons of the Browns pursuing a free agent like Malik Willis? Would he immediately become the starter over Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders? Speaking of Watson, they discuss his chances of returning to the field, noting that he's healthy and has been told he will have a chance to compete for the starting job. Finally, they look at the NFL Draft and a listener question about drafting two offensive linemen in the first round. With the Browns needing to rebuild in the trenches, could they use both of their first-round picks to address the offensive line? It's a packed episode to get you ready for a week of news from Indianapolis. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 23, 202649 min
Browns NFL Draft preview: Tackles, sleepers and the Caleb Downs debate
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dive into the 2026 NFL Draft. They start in the trenches, breaking down the top offensive tackle prospects like Spencer Fano from Utah and Francis Mauigoa from Miami. Lance explains why he values 'nastiness' and a love for the game over pure analytics when scouting linemen, and they identify some Day 2 and Day 3 sleepers. Then, the conversation shifts to the skill positions, including Jordyn Tyson, Makai Lemon and Carnell Tate. Of course, the guys have the mandatory Cleveland media discussion: Should the Browns take Ohio State safety Caleb Downs at No. 6? They debate the philosophy of drafting the best player available versus a premier position of need like offensive tackle. The episode wraps with a look at the quarterback class, discussing why a player like Garrett Nussmeier might be a forgotten man and what to make of Alabama's Ty Simpson. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 20, 20261h 11m
Andrew Berry faces biggest test yet in rebuilding Browns offense
On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are looking ahead to the NFL Combine. They discuss the challenges of covering the event and how it kicks off a crucial offseason for the Browns. The conversation turns to the offensive line, a major area of need. After a successful 2025 draft, can Andrew Berry hit on positions like O-line and wide receiver where he's had misses in the past? They shift to the other side of the ball to break down the hiring of new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg. They discuss why the first-time play-caller is a good fit to continue the Jim Schwartz system. They explain why that continuity is vital for the success of Myles Garrett and the rest of the defense. Plus, Ashley shares a story about being on a Frontier flight with no Wi-Fi when the news broke. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 19, 202639 min
Inside Mike Rutenberg’s defense: How it compares to Jim Schwartz’s system
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Lance Riesland joins Dan Labbe to break down the Browns' hiring of new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg. Lance dives into what he's seen on film, explaining how Rutenberg's philosophy is similar to Jim Schwartz's with its aggressive front, but will feature more schematic differences. The guys also tackle the challenges Rutenberg faces as a first-time play-caller and discuss the decision to move on from Schwartz. They look at specific players, including what Martin Emerson Jr.'s role could be in a crowded cornerback room and the potential for Denzel Ward to travel with top receivers more often. Finally, they shift to the offense, exploring what new head coach Todd Monken will prioritize this offseason, from fixing a potentially depleted offensive line to maximizing the talent of receivers like Isaiah Bond. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 18, 202640 min
Why the Browns chose Mike Rutenberg as defensive coordinator
On a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the Browns' hiring of new defensive coordinator, Mike Rutenberg. They start by discussing why the Browns opted for a first-time coordinator and how Rutenberg's experience under coaches like Robert Saleh will allow him to run a system similar to Jim Schwartz's. Mary Kay and Dan also explore the importance of keeping the defensive staff in place for a smooth transition and the challenge Rutenberg faces in earning the trust of veteran players who were loyal to Schwartz. Then, the conversation shifts to offseason roster questions. They look at the future of cornerback Martin Emerson Jr., who is recovering from a ruptured Achilles, and whether there's a place for him with the emergence of Tyson Campbell. Finally, with the NFL Draft on the horizon, they answer a subscriber's question about whether the Browns might trade down from the No. 6 overall pick to accumulate more draft capital. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 17, 202636 min
Is Shedeur Sanders already QB1? We answer our listeners’ questions
On this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe turn the show over to their Football Insider subscribers. They tackle a series of true/false, agree/disagree and fill-in-the-blank questions covering the biggest offseason topics for the Browns. The discussion kicks off with the search for a new defensive coordinator. Will the Browns promote from within and name Jason Tarver, or will they bring in an external candidate like Cory Undlin? Mary Kay and Dan also debate whether the Browns' dominant defense is due for a step back next season. A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the quarterback room. Will Shedeur Sanders be the de facto Week 1 starter? The hosts break down the "it factor" Sanders showed in key moments, his uncanny accuracy and the unknowns surrounding Deshaun Watson's return from injury. They also look at the offensive line's future, predict Andrew Berry's top free agency targets and close with a fascinating question: Will Kevin Stefanski's Falcons win a playoff game before the Browns do? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 13, 202648 min
Browns QB search: Is Malik Willis the perfect fit for Todd Monken?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest question facing the Browns this offseason: Who will be their quarterback? The conversation kicks off with a deep dive into the most intriguing external option, Malik Willis. The crew discusses if his dual-threat skill set is the perfect match for new head coach Todd Monken's system, but they also weigh the significant financial commitment and risk involved with his limited playing time. With other teams like the Miami Dolphins reportedly interested, will the Browns even have a shot? Then they pivot to the internal options, debating whether the team is better off exploring what they have in Shedeur Sanders or the recovering Deshaun Watson, who has recently started throwing again. Could a new offensive system finally unlock the elite player Watson once was? They also touch on veteran free agents like Kirk Cousins and Derek Carr and analyze the front office's philosophy of turning over every stone to find the right answer at the most important position in football. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 12, 202638 min
David Njoku out for the Browns: Reflecting on 9 years and a new TE1
It's the end of an era in Cleveland as David Njoku says farewell after nine seasons. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news that the tight end will not be re-signing with the Browns, a move that wasn't a surprise but is still tough for many fans. The crew discusses how the emergence of Harold Fannin Jr. as the new TE1 and the team's youth movement signaled the writing was on the wall. They look back at Njoku's fascinating Browns career, from being drafted at just 20 years old and maturing on the job to his memorable on-field moments and his unique, fun-loving personality that made him a fan favorite. Was his full potential ever realized in Cleveland? The hosts debate his ups and downs, the impact of inconsistent QB play and what his departure means as the Browns officially close the book on this era and focus on building a new core through the draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 11, 202636 min
Browns offseason begins: QB questions, Jim Schwartz fallout and lessons from the Super Bowl
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive headfirst into the Browns' offseason now that the Super Bowl is in the rearview mirror. They kick things off by analyzing the lessons the Browns can learn from the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks' defense-first strategy and what it means for finding the right quarterback. This sparks a deep dive into the Browns' most pressing questions, starting with the QB position. Should they swing for the fences and trade multiple first-round picks for a top draft prospect like Fernando Mendoza? Or is the answer already in the building? Mary Kay and Dan discuss the future of Deshaun Watson, the fan base's complicated relationship with him, and the organization's desire to salvage the trade. They also tackle the Shedeur Sanders situation and whether he is the definitive QB1. And, of course, there’s the fallout from Jim Schwartz's sudden resignation and the contract situation that follows. Finally, they gauge the fan base's confidence in new head coach Todd Monken and the immense pressure on him to fix the offense and choose the right quarterback to lead it. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 10, 202650 min
Jim Schwartz resigns: What went wrong and what's next for the Browns?
Browns defensive coordinator resigned from his position, deciding not to remain on new head coach Todd Monken's staff after he was passed over for the job. It ends a tumultuous two weeks that capped the Browns' head coaching search. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news on this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by talking about if there was a scenario where things could have worked out for Schwartz with the Browns and why it went sideways. Then they look at some of the Browns options to replace Schwartz. Will they look internally or will they find someone on the outside to replace him? They also talk about Myles Garrett winning his second Defensive Player of the Year award and Carson Schwesinger winning Defensive Rookie of the Year. Then they share their thoughts on the Super Bowl. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 6, 202654 min
Is Todd Monken the right coach for the Browns at the right time?
The Browns introduced Todd Monken as their new head coach on Tuesday, ushering in a new era as they continue to restock their roster with young talent this offseason. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked about what Monken had to say on Tuesday on this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what the Browns need to focus on to get the offense right for him this offseason. They start by talking about if Monken’s approach will be a welcome change for the franchise and the lessons he’ll still need to learn, even at 60 years old. Then they dig into the areas the Browns need to attack on the offensive side of the ball. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 5, 202644 min
Todd Monken’s big questions: Jim Schwartz’s future and a murky Browns QB room
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the introductory press conference for new head coach Todd Monken and dive into the two biggest questions facing the Browns. First, they tackle the uncertain future of defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. After being passed over for the head coaching job, will he return? They discuss the potential for an “explosive situation” if a partnership is forced and whether Monken is equipped to handle the dynamic. With Schwartz’s options limited to returning or retiring, the hosts debate if the Browns should let him go or hold him to his contract. Then, the conversation shifts to the offense and the murky quarterback room Monken inherits. The hosts explore the possibility of Monken fixing Deshaun Watson and salvaging the controversial trade, noting the coach’s intrigue with the talented QB. They also discuss the supreme confidence of Shedeur Sanders and how Monken’s tough, old-school coaching style will create a new dynamic and a potential two-man competition for the starting job this offseason. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 4, 202635 min
Should the Browns do whatever it takes to keep Jim Schwartz? Hey, Mary Kay!
New Browns head coach Todd Monken is working on putting together his staff, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is still unknown. Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and the Browns are in a bit of a standoff and that’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Should the Browns hold firm on not letting Schwartz leave and convince him to come back or would they be better off letting him go and moving on? They also discuss the quarterback situation and if Deshaun Watson really is a viable option for the Browns in 2026. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Feb 2, 202640 min
What Todd Monken’s arrival means for Shedeur Sanders, Deshaun Watson and the Browns
On a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing Twitter post that shook Berea -- new head coach Todd Monken's arrival and his enthusiastic greeting of quarterback Shedeur Sanders, reigniting the conversation about the team's future under center. The crew analyzes the potential quarterback competition between Sanders and a healthy Deshaun Watson, exploring how Monken, a renowned quarterback whisperer, might unlock the best in either player. Lance Reisland also joined the show. As a long-time admirer of Monken's work, Reisland provides analysis on his coaching philosophy, breaking down his flexible, player-focused schemes and why he's a great fit in Cleveland. They discuss which offensive players stand to benefit the most from the new system and what the Browns' biggest offseason needs are, from the offensive line to skill positions. Then Lance and Dan do a draft of snow day activities. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 31, 20261h 1m
Is Todd Monken the right hire? Making sense of the Browns’ choice
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue discussing the Browns' hiring of Todd Monken. They tackle the mixed reactions from the fan base, with Mary Kay making a strong case for the hire. She contrasts Monken’s extensive, proven track record of offensive success in Baltimore and Tampa Bay with the high-risk nature of hiring a younger, less experienced candidate. The conversation also explores the significant fallout from the coaching change, including the uncertain future of defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and how star player Myles Garrett might react to his potential departure. They discuss how Monken must navigate these delicate situations to unite the team. Finally, as a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter, Mary Kay provides a rare inside look into the controversial voting process that led to Bill Belichick not being a first-ballot inductee. She explains the complexities of the system, her disappointment in the outcome, and why she believes changes are necessary for the future. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 30, 202648 min
Why did the Browns choose Todd Monken?
The Browns hired Todd Monken as their 19th head coach, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are here to break it all down on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss their initial reactions to a hire that wasn't at the top of many lists but was a name Mary Kay insisted was in the running until the very end. They dive into Monken's impressive resume, his old-school, no-nonsense coaching style and why the Browns may have opted for his experience over younger, unproven candidates. They also get into the fallout from passing on defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. Will Schwartz leave the team, and how would the locker room react? They debate whether Monken is the right man to handle that potential crisis and the larger task of rebuilding the offense around an uncertain quarterback situation. They also discuss the pressure on GM Andrew Berry to get this right and supply Monken with the talent he needs to succeed. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 29, 20261h 6m
Where do things stand in the Browns coaching search after Nate Scheelhaase's interview?
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe try to keep up with everything happening in the Browns' head coaching search. Jaguars offensive coordinator Grant Udinski pulled himself from consideration on the same day the Browns flew to Los Angeles to meet with Rams pass game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase. Then the Buffalo Bills requested an interview with Scheelhaase while his lengthy session with the Browns was ongoing. And, by the time you hear this, maybe everything has been resolved. Either way, on our Monday podcast, Mary Kay and Dan check in and try to make sense of things as the coaching search nears the finish line. Listen as they talk through the latest in the Browns’ quest to find a new top man for their organization. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 27, 202635 min
The Browns’ coaching search is narrowing and getting complicated
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe navigate the increasingly chaotic Browns coaching search. With Jesse Minter out, they discuss the remaining candidates and the complex scenarios ahead. Could Jim Schwartz get the job by default, or will he issue an ultimatum to the front office? They explore the potential ripple effects of Schwartz's future, including the impact on star player Myles Garrett. They also analyze the standing of other candidates like Todd Monken, Grant Udinski and Nathan Scheelhaase. Listen as they talk through the latest in the Browns’ quest to find a new top man for their organization. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 23, 202630 min
Browns coaching search reset: Young innovator or proven veteran?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the Browns' ongoing head coaching search. With Mike McDaniel backing out to take the Chargers' OC job and Tommy Rees joining Kevin Stefanski in Atlanta, the interview schedule is shifting. They discuss the upcoming second interviews with candidates like Jesse Minter, Grant Udinski and Nate Scheelhaase. The central debate revolves around the pros and cons of hiring a young, offensive-minded innovator versus a more experienced veteran coach like Jim Schwartz or Todd Monken. They analyze the relatively thin resumes of the younger candidates and stress the importance of building a strong, veteran support staff around a first-time head coach. The conversation also explores Kevin Stefanski's new situation in Atlanta, as he gets the band back together with former Browns coaches. They highlight how his success, much like the future of the Browns' next coach, will ultimately depend on finding a solution at the all-important quarterback position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 22, 202629 min
What Mike McDaniel’s exit means for the Browns + Baker Mayfield vs. Kevin Stefanski
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to a chaotic night in the Browns' head coaching search. The big news is that Mike McDaniel has withdrawn his name from consideration, just a day before his scheduled in-person interview. The crew discusses the massive implications of this decision, including how it complicates the Browns' need to satisfy the Rooney Rule and what it says about the appeal of the Cleveland job, especially given the uncertainty at quarterback. They also touch on other candidates like Todd Monken, Jim Schwartz and the young offensive minds still in the running. Then, the podcast takes a detour to discuss some drama involving a former Browns quarterback and a former Browns coach. Baker Mayfield took to social media to call out Kevin Stefanski, who is now the head coach in Atlanta. The hosts revisit the fractured relationship between the two from the 2021 season, referencing Mary Kay's reporting from that time, and discuss the new rivalry brewing in the NFC South. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 21, 202644 min
Browns coaching search update: Sean McDermott, second interviews and what’s next
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start with the surprising news of Sean McDermott’s firing from the Buffalo Bills and what it means for the Browns' head coaching search. As the Browns enter Week 3 of their search and begin second interviews, a proven winner is now on the market. Mary Kay explains why the Browns will likely at least kick the tires on McDermott. The conversation also highlights the biggest challenge facing the Browns: their murky quarterback situation. They discuss how the uncertainty surrounding Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson could make top candidates hesitant. They also talk about how the now-vacant Bills job, with a superstar quarterback in Josh Allen, instantly becomes one of the most attractive openings. Even without a stable quarterback situation, is the Browns’ talented defense enough of a selling point to overcome the questions on offense. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 19, 202632 min
Is Jim Schwartz the clear frontrunner in the Browns’ coaching search?
On a Friday episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz getting the first second interview in the team’s coaching search. They discuss why he's a popular choice with players and fans, representing the path of least resistance by keeping the team's dominant defense intact. They explore what his promotion would mean for the team's identity and the necessary overhaul on the offensive side of the ball. They also cover the other dominoes, including Todd Monken getting a second interview and the uncertain future of offensive coordinator Tommy Rees. Will the Browns look to build on their defensive strength and find a quarterback they can win with, or will another candidate emerge from their ongoing interviews? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 16, 202628 min
Browns coaching search reset: Life after John Harbaugh and the candidates who make sense
On Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to John Harbaugh taking the head coaching job with the Giants. They discuss why the Giants were a more attractive destination and why the Browns never really got a chance to make their pitch. Then, they reset the Browns' coaching search and take a deep dive into some of the top candidates. They discuss the pros and cons of hiring a defensive-minded coach like Rams DC Chris Shula and how his 3-4 scheme would fit with the Browns' current personnel. They also look at the young, up-and-coming offensive candidates, including Jaguars OC Grant Udinski and Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher, and wonder if the Browns' uncertain quarterback situation will be a deterrent. Finally, they discuss internal candidates like Tommy Rees and what the future might hold for the staff as the search continues. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 16, 202638 min
What the Browns’ QB strategy looks like after Dante Moore’s decision
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the news of quarterback Dante Moore returning to Oregon and its impact on the Browns. They discuss how a thinning quarterback draft class complicates the Browns' plans at the No. 6 pick and potentially increases the likelihood of Shedeur Sanders competing for the starting job in 2026. They talk about the ripple effects across the draft, exploring potential strategies for Andrew Berry, from trading back to targeting a sleeper prospect like Garrett Nussmeier. They also debate the necessity for the Browns to continue taking swings at the quarterback position, whether through the draft or by acquiring another veteran to compete with Sanders, Dillon Gabriel and Deshaun Watson. Later, the podcast shifts to the latest updates on the Browns' coaching search. Mary Kay provides insights into the team's interview schedule, including candidates like Jesse Minter and the plan to request an interview with Chris Shula. They break down how the broader coaching carousel, featuring names like John Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel, could create a domino effect and influence the Browns' final decision. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 15, 202639 min
A changing AFC North and a critical moment for the Browns
A seismic shift has rocked the AFC North. With Mike Tomlin stepping down as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers after 19 years, the division's landscape is changing dramatically. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe kick off the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by breaking down the monumental news and what it means for the Browns. They discuss the changing of the guard with both Tomlin and John Harbaugh gone from their long-tenured posts, creating a massive opportunity for the Browns to seize the moment and return to respectability in a now wide-open division. Then, Lance Reisland joins the show for a deep dive into the Browns' coaching search. Lance provides detailed scouting reports on some of the top candidates, both well-known and under-the-radar. He talks with Dan about the potential fits of Cincinnati's Dan Pitcher, Jacksonville's young offensive coordinator Grant Udinski, the Rams' Nathan Scheelhaase and Miami's Mike McDaniel. They weigh the risks and rewards of hiring a young, brilliant mind versus a more established coach and discuss what it takes to succeed as a head coach in the NFL. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 14, 202656 min
Inside the Browns’ crowded coaching search: McDaniel, Schwartz and the dominoes ahead
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get into the latest on the Browns’ head coaching search. The big news is Mike McDaniel's interview, and they break down the Browns' long-standing admiration for his "offensive wizardry" and brilliant football mind. They explore the crowded and eclectic field of candidates, from rising offensive stars like the Rams' Nathan Nathan Scheelhaase and the very young Jaguars' OC, Grant Udinski, to established defensive coordinators like their own Jim Schwartz. They get into the future of Schwartz -- Will he stay as DC if he doesn't get the top job, and how would his departure impact Myles Garrett? Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they tackle the challenges young coaches face when leaping to the head coach role, the viability of a defensive-minded leader in today's NFL and where former coach Kevin Stefanski might land. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 13, 202639 min
How recent firings changed the Browns’ coaching search
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe catch up on the Browns' head coaching search, which has been shaken up by recent firings. First, they discuss the newly available Mike McDaniel. They analyze his reputation as a brilliant and creative offensive mind, his success elevating the Dolphins' offense and his previous history with the Browns. The conversation then shifts to another top-tier candidate, John Harbaugh. Is the Browns' head coaching job far more attractive than national narratives suggest? They highlight the elite defense, an analytics-friendly front office and an owner willing to spend. They also discuss Harbaugh's deep ties to the Cleveland area, his Super Bowl-winning pedigree, and his adaptability, making a compelling case for why he would be a great fit. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 9, 202631 min
What the Browns see in Tommy Rees + Jim Schwartz interviews for the head coaching job
The Browns' head coaching search is in full swing, and on this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the early candidates. They start by discussing the two in-house coordinators set to interview: Jim Schwartz and Tommy Rees. Could the 33-year-old Rees be the next Sean McVay, or is the risk too high? Would hiring Schwartz be a popular move that keeps the successful defense intact? The crew also looks at Bengals QB coach Dan Pitcher and his history with Andrew Berry. Then, Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film from the season finale against the Bengals, focusing on Shedeur Sanders' performance. Lance also weighs in on the coaching search, offering his high praise for Ravens OC Todd Monken and sharing his thoughts on the Browns possibly hiring Schwartz or Rees. To wrap up, Dan and Lance draft their biggest storylines from the 2025 NFL season, discussing everything from the rise of defenses and the analytics vs. feel debate to the importance of figuring it out at quarterback and the league's persistent injury problem. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 8, 202659 min
Should the Browns offer John Harbaugh anything he wants? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest news of the day: the Baltimore Ravens have fired John Harbaugh. What would it take for the Browns to land the Super Bowl-winning coach? Mary Kay and Dan Labbe discuss Harbaugh's Cleveland roots, the potential bidding war with teams like the Giants and whether the Browns should give him anything he wants, including personnel control. Then, they turn to the "Hey, Mary Kay!" segment to answer questions from Football Insider subscribers. They discuss the future of former coach Kevin Stefanski, whether he'll find success elsewhere and how he'll handle the New York media if he lands with the Giants. The conversation also pivots to the all-important quarterback position. What is the future for Deshaun Watson on this roster, and what did Shedeur Sanders really show in his seven starts? They break down the QB situation and look at other early coaching candidates as the Browns' pivotal search gets underway. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 7, 202640 min
Why the Browns moved on from Kevin Stefanski + and why Andrew Berry stayed
The Browns fired head coach Kevin Stefanski, and the Orange and Brown Talk crew is here to break down all the fallout. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news from Berea, analyzing the decision to part ways with Stefanski while retaining GM Andrew Berry. They dive into the press conferences by owner Jimmy Haslam and Berry, reading between the lines to understand the real reasons behind the move. Was it simply about the eight wins over two years, or did the front office lose faith in Stefanski's offensive vision? They discuss how Berry's successful 2025 draft and recent trades likely saved his job, but now the pressure is on him more than ever. Looking ahead, the search for a new head coach is on. Will the Browns target an offensive-minded coach to pair with a new quarterback, or promote from within with someone like Jim Schwartz? Plus, what does this mean for the future of Shedeur Sanders? They debates whether Stefanski was dealt a fair hand and what needs to happen next for the Browns to finally turn the corner. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 6, 202635 min
Orange and Brown Talk short: Myles Garrett sets the sack record and the Kevin Stefanski waiting game begins
The Browns beat the Bengals, 20-18, at Paycor Stadium, finishing the season at 5-12 and plunging into another offseason full of question marks. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their game recap video by talking about the big news from Sunday, Myles Garrett setting a new single-season sack record. He finished with 23 sacks. They also talked about Shedeur Sanders’ performance and how it went for the rookie quarterback who struggled mightily but also led a game-winning field goal drive. They wrap up by talking about the uncertainty surrounding Kevin Stefanski, who will likely find out Monday if he’ll return to coach the Browns for a seventh season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 5, 202610 min
Orange and Brown Talk short: Interpreting Myles Garrett's comments on Browns future
Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett had his opportunity to weight in on the team’s future on Friday during his weekly media availability. Garrett declined to throw his backing behind head coach Kevin Stefanski with his future up in the air. Garrett did, however, endorse playing for defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed what Garrett had to say on Friday and what it means about the decision the Browns face in the coming days. They also talked about whether Schwartz could be a legitimate candidate for the job and why it might make sense if the Browns decide to move on from Stefanski. Then they discussed the possibility of if Garrett might ask out again if it doesn’t look like the Browns will get to winning as early as next season. * This podcast is an audio version of our daily video report. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 2, 202614 min
Will Kevin Stefanski return in 2026? Browns vs. Bengals Week 18 preview
For the final time this season, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for a Browns game as they preview the Week 18 matchup against the Cincinnati Bengals on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. The game itself takes a backseat to the much bigger question looming over the franchise: Will Kevin Stefanski return as head coach next season? They try to read the tea leaves and discuss the vibe in Berea that suggests a change could be coming. They explore the different scenarios, including the possibility of promoting defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz to head coach to maintain continuity on the team's best unit and keep rising offensive coordinator Tommy Rees. Is the grass actually greener, or should the Browns stick with what they have despite two losing seasons? Plus, they talk about the one thing that matters on the field: Myles Garrett's chase for the sack record against a familiar foe in Joe Burrow. Lance Reisland joined the show for his final scouting report of the season, breaking down the Bengals' offense and defense and how the Browns can attack them. Lance also makes his pick. To wrap it up, Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their final game picks of the season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 2, 202648 min
Kevin Stefanski’s future, Mike McDaniel rumors and a look at the 2026 QB class
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the rumors surrounding Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski's job security and explore the potential of the Browns pursuing Mike McDaniel as a coaching candidate. Additionally, they discuss the implications of Wyatt Teller landing on injured reserve just ahead of free agency, raising questions about his future with the team. In a special segment, Mary Kay is joined by The Athletic's draft expert, Dane Brugler, to analyze the upcoming quarterback class. They highlight top prospects such as Fernando Mendoza and Dante Moore, discussing their potential impact on the Browns' draft strategy. The conversation also touches on which players might declare for the draft and evaluates Shedeur Sanders' performance, considering how it could influence the Browns' decisions moving forward. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 1, 202629 min
Jim Schwartz wants another shot at being a head coach; Should the Browns give it to him?
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk the future of the Browns' coaching staff. Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz has expressed interest in being a head coach again. What are the pros and cons of promoting Schwartz, considering his experience and the success of the defense, versus the league trend of hiring younger, offensive-minded coaches? Could promoting Schwartz or offensive coordinator Tommy Rees provide stability, or do the Browns owe it to themselves to conduct a full, comprehensive coaching search if they move on from Kevin Stefanski? They also explore the argument for keeping Stefanski as a CEO coach to maintain the continuity of his successful coordinators. Then, Lance Reisland joins Dan to break down the film from the win over the Steelers. - How the Steelers game-planned to stop Myles Garrett and whether it was more than usual. - The decision-making of Aaron Rodgers and the plays he left on the field. - The continued development and areas for improvement for QB Shedeur Sanders. - Standout performances from defensive players like Carson Schwesinger, who played through injury, and the impressive physicality of Tyson Campbell. Finally, we wrap up with a fun draft of overrated holiday traditions, debating everything from the New Year's Eve ball drop to Black Friday shopping. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 31, 202552 min
Have the Browns seen enough from Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start by digging into the Browns’ the critical quarterback decision. Have they seen enough from Shedeur Sanders to anoint him the starter for 2026? Mary Kay and Dan debate the pros and cons of committing to Sanders' development versus using their two first-round draft picks to trade up for a top rookie prospect like Dante Moore. They analyze the risks involved, the team's draft position, and whether the front office can afford to be wrong. The conversation extends to the coaching staff, exploring the uncertainty around Kevin Stefanski's future. They also discuss if veteran defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz deserves another head coaching opportunity elsewhere and consider the intriguing possibility of the Browns promoting young offensive mind Tommy Rees if a change is made. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 30, 202535 min
Should the Browns care about draft position + Shedeur Sanders continuing case: Postgame podcast
The Browns secured a 13-6 victory over the rival Steelers on Sunday, but did the win come at a cost? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the immediate aftermath. The win dropped the Browns' draft position from a potential top-three pick to sixth overall, sparking a conversation about the team's future at quarterback. They debate whether fans should be upset about the draft implications or celebrate a culture-building win against a division foe. This naturally leads to an in-depth evaluation of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Has he shown enough progress to be considered the long-term answer? They explore various paths forward. They also discuss the ineffectiveness of tanking in the NFL and why players and coaches are always focused on winning the game in front of them. On the defensive side of the ball, they focus on Myles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record. While Garrett didn't get a sack, they get into how Pittsburgh's entire game plan was dedicated to stopping him and how his mere presence was a game-wrecking force that ultimately contributed to the Browns' victory. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 29, 202548 min
Will Myles Garrett finally get the sack record? Will Shedeur Sanders make his case for the starting job? Browns vs. Steelers preview
On this preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for the Browns’ home finale against the Steelers. They start with the future of the quarterback position. With just two games left, can Shedeur Sanders prove he's the guy for 2026 and convince the Browns not to use a top draft pick on a QB? They also debate if these final games, particularly a win against a rival, could be enough to save Kevin Stefanski's job. They talk Myles Garrett's pursuit of the single-season sack record. In a twist of fate, he could potentially break the record against Mason Rudolph, reigniting the drama from their infamous helmet-hitting incident in 2019, if the Steelers decide rest their starters. They would clinch the AFC North if the Ravens lose on Saturday night. Lance Reisland joins the show for his scouting report, breaking down the Steelers' offense under Aaron Rodgers, the impact of DK Metcalf's suspension and the challenges posed by Pittsburgh's formidable defensive front. Lastly, all four make their picks for Sunday’s matchup in Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 27, 202542 min
Orange and Brown Talk short: Shedeur Sanders' progress, Joel Bitonio's vote of confidence and injury updates
We'll be back with a full Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast this weekend. Until then, here's a quick update from Berea from our daily video. The Browns continued their preparations for the Steelers on Wednesday, but first it was a look back at Shedeur Sanders’ performance against the Bills on Sunday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their daily recap video by discussing what offensive coordinator Tommy Rees had to say about the progress Sanders made on Sunday and if there’s something to build on from that performance. Then they turn their attention to left guard Joel Bitonio’s vote of confidence for head coach Kevin Stefanski and what he had to say about the Browns retaining Stefanski for a seventh year. They wrap up the video by updating some injuries, starting with the Browns and the return to practice for Denzel Ward and Dylan Sampson and T.J. Watt returning to Steelers practice. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 24, 20259 min
Can the Browns move forward with Deshaun Watson, Shedeur Sanders and a draft pick?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe kick things off with the news that Deshaun Watson will officially finish the season on the PUP list, ending any slim chance of a return this year. They dive deep into what this means for the Browns' complex quarterback situation heading into the offseason. With Watson still on the roster with a massive contract, what is his role moving forward? Could he be a bridge quarterback for a top draft pick, or will he serve as a backup and mentor? The conversation then shifts to Shedeur Sanders. Will he be the long-term answer after his seven-game audition? Mary Kay and Dan debate whether the Browns can keep Sanders on the roster if they decide to draft another quarterback, considering the media attention that follows him. They also touch on a spicy potential storyline: Myles Garrett's quest for the sack record could culminate against none other than Mason Rudolph. In the second half, Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' game against the Bills. Lance offers his expert opinion on Sanders' performance, where he showed patience but also made critical errors. He also evaluates the struggling offensive line, the defensive issues with gap integrity and tackling. The episode wraps up with a fun trivia question about which colleges have produced the most NFL players. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 24, 202550 min
What should the Browns do at QB? Shedeur Sanders, the draft, and coaching uncertainty: Hey, Mary Kay!
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk the future of the quarterback position. They discuss the central dilemma: should the Browns build around fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders and use their high draft picks to acquire a top wide receiver or offensive tackle, or should they draft a new franchise quarterback like Fernando Mendoza or Dante Moore? The discussion weighs the pros and cons of sticking with Sanders, highlighting his signs of progress and leadership potential against the risk of passing on a rare opportunity to draft a top-tier QB. This decision is further complicated by the uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff. Dan and Mary Kay explore the job security of head coach Kevin Stefanski, questioning if he will return and how a potential coaching change would impact the team's choice at quarterback. They contrast this with the relative safety of GM Andrew Berry's position and how his vision might shape the franchise's direction. They also address subscriber questions about roster management failures, the team's disappointing losses and whether Myles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record has affected the run defense. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 23, 202532 min
Is Shedeur Sanders creating a difficult decision for the Browns? Postgame podcast
In this postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' 23-20 loss to the Bills. The primary focus: the continued development of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They were impressed with the traits he displayed, including his elusiveness, toughness and ability to keep the Browns in the game with a makeshift offensive line and limited offensive weapons and showed incremental improvements. Was Sanders convincing enough for the Browns to build around him and use their high draft pick on other positions of need, or should they still target one of the top quarterbacks in the draft? Lance Reisland joined the show to provide his analysis of Sanders' game, the struggling run defense, and other key moments. The podcast also covers the unfortunate season-ending injury to promising rookie running back Quinshon Judkins and Myles Garrett’s quest to break the sack record. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 22, 20251h 0m
Browns-Bills preview: Shedeur Sanders’ rebound, run game woes & Myles Garrett’s record chase
On the Browns-Bills preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the key storylines for the upcoming matchup. They discuss whether quarterback Shedeur Sanders can rebound from his three-interception game last week against the Bills' second-ranked pass defense. They also talk about his need to improve his decision-making, build chemistry with his receivers beyond his security blanket, Harold Fannin Jr., and take the easy completions offered to him. Another major topic: the Browns' struggling run game. They also get into if this is the week Myles Garrett will break the single-season sack record. Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his in-depth scouting report on the Bills. He explains why he believes Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league, highlights the underrated talent of running back James Cook and breaks down their dangerous special teams. Lastly, everyone makes their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 19, 202545 min
The Shedeur Sanders question: Can the Browns afford to be patient?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the future of the Browns quarterback position, centered around Shedeur Sanders. They start by dissecting Sanders' weekly press conference, covering his mindset of laying a foundation, the advice he received from Jameis Winston and his ongoing efforts to build chemistry with his receivers. The discussion then explores the central 'dichotomy' facing the team: Can they afford to be patient with a developing rookie when the Super Bowl window for veterans like Myles Garrett is closing? With a potential top draft pick looming, the pressure is on. They also delve into the significant uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff and front office. They debate whether Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry will return and how those decisions will ultimately shape the most important position on the team. Who will be making the call on the Browns' quarterback in 2026, and what will that decision be? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 18, 202530 min
Myles Garrett’s record chase, Shedeur Sanders response & a huge Bills test for Browns defense
On Wednesday’s Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 16 matchup against the Buffalo Bills. They discusses the immense pressure on quarterback Shedeur Sanders to rebound from a tough game as he faces off against MVP candidate Josh Allen. They also focus on Myles Garrett's quest to break the NFL's single-season sack record at home and analyze the challenges facing a Browns defense that is grappling with injuries and a tough offensive opponent. In the second half, film expert Lance Reisland joins the show for a detailed breakdown of the game against the Bears. Reisland provides in-depth analysis of Sanders' development, the impressive instincts of rookie Carson Schwesinger and how the defense is coping with the loss of key players. The episode wraps up with a draft of the most frustrating things to wait for, from airport lines to slow elevators. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 17, 20251h 1m
Is the 2025 NFL draft enough to save Andrew Berry’s job? Hey, Mary Kay!
Following the Browns’ 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the biggest question facing the Cleveland Browns: What does the future hold for head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry? They kick off the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by debating whether one or both could be fired and if Berry's successful 2025 draft class is enough to secure his position. The conversation quickly turns to the franchise's most glaring need: a quarterback. Dan and Mary Kay discuss the immense pressure on the front office to finally find their guy, questioning the trust in Andrew Berry's evaluation skills for the league's most important position. Then they get into Shedeur Sanders' performance, analyzing his recent step back against the Bears. Where does Sanders need to improve? How will the Browns get a full enough evaluation on him? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 16, 202539 min
How can the Browns properly evaluate Shedeur Sanders? Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast
In the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears. They dive into the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who had a rough outing with three interceptions after a standout game the previous week. They analyze the extenuating circumstances, including a depleted offensive line, key injuries and a critical dropped pass by Jerry Jeudy that resulted in an interception, questioning how the front office can properly evaluate him. The discussion then broadens to the team's overall execution, highlighting the chaotic nature of the game, repeated special teams blunders and procedural mistakes. This leads to a critical conversation about head coach Kevin Stefanski's job security and whether he is giving the front office reasons to make a change. The episode also examines the perplexing season of Jeudy, contrasting his struggles this year with his Pro Bowl performance last season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 15, 202540 min
Browns at Bears: Will Shedeur Sanders seize the QB job? + Picks, preview and scouting report
On our Browns at Bears preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe offer a complete look-ahead to the Browns' frigid road game against the Chicago Bears. The primary focus is on rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. After taking huge strides last week, can he repeat his performance against a Bears defense that leads the league in takeaways and interceptions? This game is a critical test of his development and his bid to be the Browns' franchise quarterback. They also discuss how the Browns' defense will bounce back against the run after giving up big plays to the Titans, and whether Myles Garrett can get closer to the sack record against an elusive Caleb Williams. Then, film analyst Lance Reisland joins to provide an in-depth report on Bears head coach Ben Johnson's creative offense and the Bears' opportunistic defense. To wrap it up, Mary Kay, Ashley, Lance and Dan all make their predictions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 12, 202537 min
Shedeur Sanders' learning curve and how mistakes are helping the Browns rookie grow
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk all things Shedeur Sanders. With Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski officially handing him the reins for the rest of the season, they analyze what stood out from the rookie quarterback's latest press conference. They discuss Shedeur's hungry, underdog mentality, noting that as a fifth-round pick, he understands nothing is guaranteed and he has to prove himself in the final four games. The conversation explores how his draft day fall may have been the best thing for his career, giving him a chip on his shoulder and an edge that's fueling his rapid development. They also break down his ability to learn from mistakes, like the costly interception against the Titans, and how he's balancing his "hero ball" instincts with smarter play. They also touch on the dynamic between Sanders and his risk-averse head coach, and how the coach is learning how to best use the rookie's impressive elusiveness and accuracy. Finally, they look ahead to the frigid matchup against the interception-heavy Chicago Bears, a true test of his progress and mental fortitude. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 11, 202524 min
Shedeur Sanders' audition for the Browns + where he improved against the Titans
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set up Bears week. With the Browns eliminated from the playoffs, the focus shifts to the future, and that means all eyes are on quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They discuss his four-game audition for the starting job, breaking down his impressive performance against the Titans, the explosiveness he brings to the offense and the critical need for game management and avoiding costly mistakes. They also get into how Sanders will fare against the Bears' turnover-happy defense and how the Browns' own run defense will handle Chicago's top-tier rushing attack after a poor showing against Tennessee. Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film from the loss to the Titans. Lance offers his perspective on Sanders' growth, toughness and improved processing. He also provides a detailed schematic breakdown of exactly why the run defense struggled. The show wraps up with a “Start-Bench-Cut” segment, debating everything from Hall-of-Fame quarterbacks to Christmas cookies. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 10, 202551 min
Can Shedeur Sanders prove he's the Browns’ future QB? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get right to the biggest topic in Cleveland sports: Shedeur Sanders. Following the Browns' 31-29 loss to the Titans, Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the rest of the season, and the hosts break down what's at stake. With four tough games ahead, can the fifth-round pick prove he is the franchise's future and take the Browns out of the quarterback sweepstakes in the 2026 NFL Draft? Mary Kay and Dan talk Sanders' impressive traits, from his "it factor" and elite accuracy to his surprising elusiveness and guts in the pocket. They also discuss the massive financial implications of finding a star QB on a rookie deal and how it could allow the Browns to build around him. Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they explore what the quarterback room could look like in 2026 with Sanders, Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel, and debate whether it should be an open competition. They also dissect the controversial two-point conversions against the Titans and the analytics behind Kevin Stefanski's aggressive decisions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 9, 202536 min
Did Shedeur Sanders make his case to be the Browns quarterback long-term? Postgame podcast
On this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' 31-29 loss to the Titans. Despite the loss, the main topic of conversation is the breakout performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who threw for 364 yards and accounted for four total touchdowns. They discuss how Sanders bolstered his case to be the Browns' starting quarterback for the future, leading two clutch touchdown drives late in the game to give his team a chance to win. The podcast then pivots to the controversial coaching decisions that ultimately cost the Browns the game. They get into the two failed two-point conversion attempts, specifically the decision to take a red-hot Sanders off the field for the final, game-tying try. They debate the analytics behind the calls and whether it was a moment for "players over plays." Finally, the discussion turns to the team's numerous mistakes, including costly special teams errors and a defensive letdown, and what this loss could mean for the future of head coach Kevin Stefanski. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 8, 20251h 2m
Browns vs. Titans: Shedeur Sanders vs. Cam Ward, picks, preview and scouting report
It’s the Browns vs. Titans preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into Sunday’s game between the Browns and Titans, spotlighting the quarterback duel between Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward. They also discuss Myles Garrett's pursuit of the single-season sack record. He’s 3.5 sacks away from tying the record. Could he tie it or break it on Sunday? Could this game be a repeat of the Raiders game for Garrett and the Browns’ defensive line? Film analyst Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his scouting report, offering insights into key player matchups and strategies to watch for. Then everyone makes their picks for Sunday’s matchup at Huntington Bank Field. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 5, 202543 min
Will Deshaun Watson ever start again for the Browns? And when?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kate Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news of Deshaun Watson's return to practice. With his 21-day practice window now open, they debate the biggest question on every fan's mind: Will he play again this season? They dig into the team's motivations, suggesting the move is more about evaluating Watson's recovery from his Achilles injury and rewarding his hard work and mentorship of the rookie quarterbacks. While they believe the plan is to finish the season with the rookies, they all agree you can "never say never" with the Browns. They also look ahead to the future, analyzing Watson's massive contract and why he is almost certain to be on the roster in 2026. This leads to a discussion about whether he could realistically compete for the starting job next year. Finally, the group discusses on-field chemistry issues, focusing on the sideline confrontation between Shedeur Sanders and Jerry Jeudy. They explore the importance of timing, trust, and why the final five games are critical for the development of the team's young players. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 4, 202528 min
What can Shedeur Sanders show this week? + Will Myles Garrett break the sack record on Sunday?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the stage for the upcoming Browns vs. Titans matchup. They dive into the intriguing quarterback battle between the Browns' fifth-round pick, Shedeur Sanders, and the Titans' No. 1 overall pick, Cam Ward, and what this game means for both franchises. The conversation shifts to the future, focusing on draft positioning and whether Sanders can prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback in the season's final games. Ashley highlights the potential for Myles Garrett to break the NFL's single-season sack record against the oft-sacked Cam Ward. They also discuss the opportunity for young players like Mike Hall Jr. and Teven Jenkins to get extended looks due to recent injuries. In the second half of the pod, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the film from the 49ers game. Lance provides a detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, pointing out both high-level plays and correctable issues with his footwork and timing. They also dissect special teams breakdowns and the surprising decision to rotate Wyatt Teller on the offensive line. To wrap things up, Dan and Lance have a four-round draft of the worst parts of winter. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 3, 202553 min
Should Browns handle Shedeur Sanders starting week-to-week? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the fallout from the Browns' 26-8 loss to the 49ers. They begin by discussing the decision to handle quarterback Shedeur Sanders' starting role on a week-to-week basis. Is it a good strategy to keep Sanders hungry and prevent him from getting too comfortable? The conversation then turns to the offense's chemistry issues, particularly the visible on-field frustration between Sanders and wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. Mary Kay and Dan explore why Jeudy is having a subpar season and what his long-term future looks like in Cleveland, considering his contract makes him difficult to move. Mary Kay and Dan also break down the game's most critical blunders, including the confusing and ultimately failed 4th-and-1 direct snap to Harold Fannin Jr. and the continued abysmal play from the special teams unit. Then they tackle the big-picture question of whether Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski are "joined at the hip" as the team faces another losing season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 2, 202536 min
How long will Shedeur Sanders hang onto the Browns' starting QB job? Postgame podcast
In this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 26-8 loss to the San Francisco 49ers. They start by analyzing the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start. They discuss the positive takeaways, including a well-thrown touchdown pass to Harold Fannin Jr. and avoiding costly interceptions, while also examining his development and what these final games mean for his future with the team. Can he do enough to prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback? They also touch on the sideline frustration between Sanders and Jerry Jeudy, the team's offensive chemistry issues and the overall sense of a season of missed opportunities. Another major topic of discussion? The continued struggles of the special teams. They detail several critical errors, from a muffed punt to poor returns, that gave the 49ers excellent field position and directly impacted the game's outcome. They explore how these recurring mistakes have cost the Browns multiple games this season, largely wasting a dominant defensive effort. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 1, 20251h 2m
Shedeur Sanders starts again + Browns vs. 49ers picks & scouting report: Preview podcast
The Browns return home on Sunday to host the San Francisco 49ers, a team fighting for the playoffs but also traveling cross-country on a short week to play in Cleveland. Rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his second consecutive start for the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his second start. Will he take positive steps forward or will 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh have him off balance? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the 49ers. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them?Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 29, 202543 min
Will Shedeur Sanders take a big step forward in his next start? + Is not getting a game ball really a thing?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Shedeur Sanders' second start as the Browns prepare to face the 49ers. They debate what a successful outing looks like for the rookie quarterback. Is a performance similar to his debut against Las Vegas enough, or does he need to show clear signs of progress in efficiency and execution? They discuss how the Browns' offense can build on the explosive plays from the last game while also developing more sustained drives. The conversation then shifts to address the off-field narratives surrounding Sanders. They break down the "Game Ball-Gate" controversy that erupted on social media after Kevin Stefanski didn't award Sanders a game ball for his first win. They provide context on Stefanski's history with game balls, his methodical approach to developing rookies, and debunk the conspiracy theories that the coach is attempting to sabotage his young quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 26, 202533 min
What to expect in Shedeur Sanders' second start, looking back at his debut + coach cliché draft
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 12 matchup against the San Francisco 49ers. They discuss what to expect from rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start as he faces a Robert Saleh-coached defense. They talk about how the Browns might expand the game plan for Sanders and how the defense will match up against Brock Purdy, especially with potential bad weather and the homefield advantage. Then, Lance Reisland joins for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' win over the Raiders. Lance gives his detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, what he did well, and where he needs to improve. He also dives into the dominant performance by the defensive line, highlighting why Myles Garrett is playing on “another planet" and the importance of the team's interior pressure. Lastly, Lance and Dan do a four-round draft of the coaching clichés. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 26, 202556 min
Can Shedeur Sanders lock down the Browns starting quarterback job? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock break down the big news of the day: Shedeur Sanders will start for the Browns against the San Francisco 49ers. Fresh off red-eye flights from Las Vegas, they dive into listener questions about the rookie QB. Has Sanders already secured the starting job for the rest of the season? They discuss his poise, ability to push the ball downfield, and how he's brought new energy to the offense. The conversation also explores whether Sanders can convince the Browns not to draft a quarterback early in 2026 and the adjustments needed to build chemistry with Jerry Jeudy and Isaiah Bond. Plus, they dig into the defense's dominant performance, crediting the interior line for Myles Garrett's success, and whether defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz will be a head coaching candidate next year. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 25, 202535 min
Should Shedeur Sanders remain the Browns' starting quarterback? Postgame podcast
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from Las Vegas on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to break down the Browns' 24-10 win over the Raiders. The main topic of discussion: Shedeur Sanders’ first career start. While his final stat line was modest, Sanders provided explosive plays the offense has lacked all season. Did Sanders’ performance, filled with tantalizing flashes, earn him another start over Dillon Gabriel, even after Gabriel clears the concussion protocol. On the other side of the ball, they discuss another dominant performance from Myles Garrett, who added three sacks to his total, resetting his own franchise record for sacks in a season with 18. The group talks about his historic pace and how the improved play of the interior defensive line has unleashed him. They also touch on how the defense’s elite play should create a sense of urgency for the front office to solve the quarterback position and how the team’s rookies provide a bright spot for the future. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 24, 202530 min
Will Shedeur Sanders rise to the challenge? Browns at Raiders picks + scouting report
The Browns take to the road on Sunday to take on the Las Vegas Raiders, a 2-8 football team that is averaging fewer points per game than even the anemic Browns offense. Most notably, rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his first career start for the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his first start. Will the Browns figure out how to best utilize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Raiders. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them? Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Las Vegas. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 21, 202549 min
Why Shedeur Sanders can succeed on Sunday + former Browns QB Brian Hoyer on Sanders, Johnny Manziel and more
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, and Dan Labbe get into the topic of the week: Shedeur Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the Browns’ game against the Las Vegas Raiders. They discuss Sanders’ supreme confidence heading into his first NFL start, how the coaching staff can balance his big-play style with smart game management and the challenge of facing the Raiders on the road. Then, Mary Kay sits down with a very special guest: former Browns quarterback and Cleveland native, Brian Hoyer. Brian provides a unique quarterback’s perspective on Sanders’ potential and what he needs to improve on. He draws compelling parallels between the current quarterback situation with Dillon Gabriel and his own experience playing alongside Johnny Manziel. Hoyer also weighs in on Manziel’s recent comments about the organization and shares his heartfelt well wishes for Browns legend Bernie Kosar. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 20, 202539 min
How can the Browns help Shedeur Sanders succeed on Sunday?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, it’s all about Raiders week and the expected first NFL start for Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the table for the week and Mary Kay is 99.9% certain Sanders will start and explains what the Browns need to do to design a game plan that maximizes his skill set as a drop-back passer. Ashley discusses the Browns’ terrible track record in West Coast games and why this matchup might not be the easy win some fans expect. They also marvel at Myles Garrett’s dominant season and wonders what he has in store for the Raiders. Then, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the Ravens film. Lance breaks down every snap from Shedeur Sanders’ debut, highlighting the good, the bad and the footwork. He offers his game plan for Sanders and explains why the interior defensive line has been so crucial to Garrett’s success. Finally, Lance and Dan have some fun with a Thanksgiving food draft, building a starting lineup of their favorite holiday dishes. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 19, 202552 min
Can Shedeur Sanders win the Browns starting quarterback job? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the start of the Shedeur Sanders era. With Dillon Gabriel in the concussion protocol, Sanders is on track for his first career start against the Raiders, and the questions from Football Insider subscribers are flying in. Mary Kay and Dan break down whether Sanders has what it takes to run away with the starting job. They analyze his debut performance against the Ravens, discussing his elite arm talent and catchable ball versus his struggles with reading defenses and taking sacks. The conversation explores how offensive coordinator Tommy Rees might simplify the game plan for the rookie and the importance of avoiding the high-risk, high-reward plays. They also tackle the "reps-gate" controversy, debating if the Browns' roster construction and lack of first-team reps set Sanders up for a difficult debut. Finally, they look at the bigger picture: Can a strong performance earn Sanders the job long-term, and how can anyone accurately assess head coach Kevin Stefanski amidst the constant quarterback shuffling? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 18, 202540 min
Ready or not, Shedeur Sanders’ time is here for the Browns: Postgame podcast
Barring a quick run through the concussion protocol by Dillon Gabriel, it will be Shedeur Sanders starting next week for the Browns against the Las Vegas Raiders. Sanders came in to start the second half of Sunday’s 23-16 loss after Gabriel was removed with a concussion. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Sanders’ debut and what could be different next week if he does, in fact, make the first start of his NFL career. They also talk about the performance of pass rusher Myles Garrett, who added four more sacks on Sunday and is on track to break the single-season record and win his second Defensive Player of the Year award. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 17, 202534 min
Browns vs. Ravens: Who will win on Sunday + Ravens scouting report
The Browns return home on Sunday to host their AFC North rivals, the Baltimore Ravens. It’s the second meeting between the two and it’s a matchup between two teams going in very different directions. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking ahead to Sunday’s matchup and talking through some of the storylines they’re watching. Can Tommy Rees and Dillon Gabriel get the offense moving? Can Carson Schwesinger slow down Lamar Jackson? Could we see Shedeur Sanders this week? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Ravens. What has changed about Baltimore since the last time the two teams played? How can the Browns attack them on both sides of the ball? Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday at Huntington Bank Field. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 14, 202548 min
The Browns’ offensive struggles: Dillon Gabriel, Tommy Rees and the pressure to fix it
On Wednesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns’ quarterback situation as they prepare to face the Baltimore Ravens. The main topic is Dillon Gabriel’s struggle with accuracy and the mounting pressure for him and offensive coordinator Tommy Rees to turn things around. With backup Shedeur Sanders waiting in the wings, a sense of urgency is growing. They discuss whether the offensive woes are all on Gabriel or if a struggling receiving corps and protection issues share the blame. They analyze the statistics, from Gabriel’s low completion percentage to the receivers’ high number of drops, painting a picture of a comprehensive offensive problems. This leads to the central debate: Should the Browns stick with their plan and allow Gabriel more time to develop, or is it time to see what Sanders can do? They weigh the pros and cons of throwing a rookie into a difficult situation versus staying patient in a season where playoff hopes have faded. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 13, 202537 min
Can the Browns bounce back vs. the Ravens? + Lance Reisland on what went wrong in Jets loss
On Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spin it forward to the Browns’ Week 11 matchup against the Baltimore Ravens. After a devastating loss to the Jets, can the Browns rebound at home? They discuss the state of the Ravens, who are on a winning streak with a healthy Lamar Jackson, and debate whether Cleveland’s stout home defense gives them a chance for a shocking upset. They also analyze the offense under new play-caller Tommy Rees, try to find encouraging signs from Dillon Gabriel and Jerry Jeudy and how other players can get more involved. Then, Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown of the loss to the Jets. Lance details exactly what went wrong on the two special teams touchdowns, the ongoing fundamental issues with the offensive line and the costly mental mistakes that doomed the Browns in a winnable game. To wrap up, Lance and Dan draft all-time NFL greats using a blind resume format where they pick a team by number and then select a player from that franchise’s history. Who builds the better team? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 12, 202551 min
Is Kevin Stefanski safe after the Jets loss? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Monday, Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are back from New York to break down the Browns' 27-20 loss to the Jets. With other NFL coaches getting fired, they start by answering a Football Insider subscriber's question about Kevin Stefanski's job security. Mary Kay explains why she believes Stefanski is safe for now, but Dan wonders if the ugly loss to the Jets could change the thinking in Berea. Then, they dive deep into the quarterback situation. Mary Kay makes her case for why the Browns should stick with Dillon Gabriel, giving him more time with new play-caller Tommy Rees. They discuss the struggles of the offense, from sacks and penalties to a lack of continuity with injured players. How long is Gabriel's leash before the team turns to Shedeur Sanders? Finally, they look at the bigger picture, discussing how the evaluation of the rookie quarterbacks this season ties into the Browns' expected plan to draft a franchise quarterback in 2026 and why the final eight games of this season are still crucial for the coaching staff and the organization. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 11, 202534 min
Should the Browns stick with Dillon Gabriel? Postgame podcast
On our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' frustrating 27-20 loss to the New York Jets. They start with the quarterback position. After Kevin Stefanski announced he's sticking with Dillon Gabriel, they discuss why that might be the right call, giving Gabriel and new play-caller Tommy Rees more time to gel. They weigh the patience required for a rookie against the growing fan clamor to see Shedeur Sanders, acknowledging that the rest of the season is about evaluating these young quarterbacks. Then, the conversation shifts to the special teams, which completely imploded. A kickoff return and a punt return for touchdowns in just 36 seconds led to 14 points for the Jets. On defense, a critical offsides penalty by Cam Thomas cost the Browns dearly. This leads to a bigger discussion: Is this loss the final straw? The hosts question the coaching, the mental errors and whether it's fair to start wavering on the long-term outlook for Kevin Stefanski and his staff. It was a day of maddening mistakes that has them wondering where the Browns go from here in another disappointing season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 10, 202525 min
Paul DePodesta leaves + Browns at Jets picks and preview
Browns Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta is leaving the team to lead the Colorado Rockies. We start our Browns at Jets preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing DePodesta’s departure and what it means for the Browns moving forward. Then we turn our attention to Sunday’s game as the Browns try to snap a 12-game road losing streak this week when they head to New Jersey to take on the Jets at MetLife Stadium. The Browns are 2-6 and the Jets are 1-7. Both teams are coming off their bye but took very different approaches to the trade deadline. New York traded away cornerback Sauce Gardner and defensive tackle Quinnen Williams while the Browns stood pat. We get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about DePodesta and also Tommy Rees calling plays. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Jets scouting report and makes his pick. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday’s game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 7, 202533 min
What would a Browns extension for David Njoku look like?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe tackle the futures of two key offensive weapons for the Browns. First up is tight end David Njoku, who expressed his desire to remain a Brown for life after surviving the trade deadline. With his contract expiring, they discuss what a potential extension could look like, weighing his age, injury history and excellent blocking against the presence of rookie Harold Fannin Jr. and the strategy of letting the free-agent market determine his price. Next, they turn to the perplexing struggles of wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. After a breakout 2024 season and great offseason, Jeudy’s performance has been a major disappointment, marked by drops and frustration. They try to find the root causes: Is it on Jeudy, or is the team’s quarterback instability and overall offensive woes to blame? They explore whether a new play-caller in Tommy Rees and the return of Cedric Tillman can help get him back on track for the remainder of the season and beyond, as the Browns are counting on him to be a cornerstone of their passing attack. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 6, 202528 min
Why the Browns were quiet at the NFL trade deadline
On this post-trade deadline edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down a quiet NFL trade deadline for the Browns. While the Browns made only a minor move involving Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, their upcoming opponent, the New York Jets, held a massive fire sale, trading away two of their defensive stars. The crew analyzes why the Browns chose to stand pat, pointing to their strong draft position with two first-round picks and the lack of available players who could truly alter their season. They explore the team's brief inquiry into Jets receiver Garrett Wilson and the decision not to trade veterans like David Njoku or Myles Garrett. With no outside help arriving, the focus shifts to the rest of the season. They discuss the immense pressure on the struggling offense to find answers from within, highlighting the need for players like Cedric Tillman and Jerry Jeudy to step up. They frame the upcoming game against the dismantled Jets as a "need to win" and delve into the frustrations surrounding an offense that feels stuck in the same place as last year, making the final nine games a critical evaluation period for the future. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 4, 202536 min
Will Tommy Rees really make a difference for the Browns' offense? Hey, Mary Kay!
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest Browns news from the day: Kevin Stefanski handing over play-calling duties to Tommy Rees. They break down what Rees can do differently to ignite the struggling Browns offense, from sticking with the run game to finding ways to make quarterback Dillon Gabriel more comfortable and confident. With wide receiver Cedric Tillman returning from injury, how will his presence impact the receiving corps and take pressure off a pressing Jerry Jeudy? The quarterback discussion doesn’t stop there. Mary Kay offers her insight on the “real story” behind Shedeur Sanders’ back injury and whether the team is truly ready to hand him the reins. They also tackle the elephant in the room: the possibility of Deshaun Watson returning this season and what that could mean for his trade value. Finally, as the NFL trade deadline approaches, Mary Kay and Dan speculate on potential moves the Browns could make to bolster their roster, focusing on the offensive line and wide receiver positions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nov 4, 202537 min
Why Myles Garrett isn’t going anywhere + the Browns’ path forward:
On Thursday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with the rumor that has taken over the sports talk machine: Could the Browns trade Myles Garrett? Mary Kay definitively shuts down the speculation, explaining why there is a "zero percent chance" of it happening before the trade deadline. They break down the massive financial dead cap hit that makes any potential deal a non-starter and discuss why the idea was ludicrous from the beginning. From there, the conversation pivots to the bigger picture for the 2 -6 Browns. Is a full-scale rebuild the answer? The hosts discuss why a "tank" is not a viable option in the NFL and how the team is currently straddling two timelines, trying to win with a veteran core while simultaneously building a new foundation with a promising rookie class featuring players like Quinshon Judkins, Mason Graham and Carson Schwesinger. Ultimately, the path forward hinges on one position: quarterback. They explore the immense challenge of identifying and developing a franchise QB, the importance of having a plan and sticking to it and how the current offensive woes, from the quarterback play to the receiving corps, impact the team's ability to evaluate their young talent. It's a deep dive into the state of the Browns and what comes next. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 30, 202531 min
Should Browns GM Andrew Berry talk this week? How would we fix the offense?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe kick things off by tackling the week's biggest off-field story: Browns GM Andrew Berry breaking precedent by not holding his traditional bye week press conference. With the team at a frustrating 2-6, the decision has sparked debate and speculation among the fan base. The crew dives into the team's reasoning, the public pushback, and whether it was a miscalculation to remain silent when fans are demanding answers about the team's direction, recent trades, and underwhelming performance. The focus then shifts to fixing the struggling offense. They brainstorm potential solutions coming out of the bye. Everything is on the table, from making a change at quarterback and trading for a veteran wide receiver before the deadline, to handing over play-calling duties from Kevin Stefanski to Tommy Rees. They debate the likelihood and potential impact of each move as the Browns look to salvage their season against one of the league's easiest remaining schedules. Lance Riesland joins the show for a deep dive into the film from the loss to the Patriots. He offers his expert analysis on what's plaguing the offense, from a lack of rhythm to specific issues with quarterback play and beyond. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 29, 20251h 10m
Should Kevin Stefanski give up play calling? Hey, Mary Kay!
On Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into a packed mailbag following the Browns' 32-13 loss to the Patriots. First, they tackle the boiling frustration of Myles Garrett. After his visible outburst on the sideline, is there a chance he could request a trade in the offseason or will he demand significant changes on offense to stay? Does he have a right to express his frustration after giving up his trade request? Dan and Mary Kay debate whether his passion is a positive or negative sign for the franchise. Speaking of the offense, with the bye week here, should this be "Hell Week" for the offensive staff? They discuss whether Kevin Stefanski should hand over play-calling duties to Tommy Rees to try and jumpstart the struggling unit. The quarterback debate rages on. While Stefanski has ruled out benching rookie Dillon Gabriel, should everything, including a look at Shedeur Sanders, be on the table to fix the offense? They also look back at the team's handling of veteran QBs earlier in the year. Finally, they discuss the future of the coaching staff and the roster, including how many wins Stefanski needs to save his job and Mary Kay's "second Super Bowl window" theory. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 27, 202538 min
Is it time to talk QB change for the Browns? Postgame podcast
The Browns were embarrassed in New England on Sunday, losing to the Patriots, 32-13. The offense struggled once again. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast by looking at the offense and the quarterback situation and what the Browns should do. Is sticking with Dillon Gabriel the right call? Should they consider a switch to Shedeur Sanders? They also talk about who deserves the blame for this performance. Then Lance Reisland joins the pod to talk about what he saw from Dillon Gabriel and the Browns offense on Sunday Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 27, 202548 min
Browns at Patriots: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns play one last game before their bye week, traveling to New Engalnd to take on the Patriots. New England, led by Mike Vrabel, is one of the season’s surprise teams at 5-2. The Browns, meanwhile, are coming off their second win of the season. On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about the big storylines for Sunday. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Patriots scouting report and makes his pick. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday’s game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 24, 202540 min
Is Shedeur Sanders’ time nearing with the Browns?
On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe address one of the pressing questions facing the Browns and their struggling offense: Should Shedeur Sanders be getting a look? While starter Dillon Gabriel gets all the first-team reps, the passing game continues to struggle, and his performance hasn’t quieted the calls for the other rookie. With a matchup against the New England Patriots and their elite run defense looming, the offense can’t just rely on Quinshon Judkins; they need veterans Jerry Jeudy and David Njoku to have feel-good games and prove their Pro Bowl status. On the other side of the ball, the Browns have a championship caliber defense that just had a dominant, get-right game. Can Jim Schwartz’s aggressive scheme rattle Patriots QB Drake Maye and carry the team to another victory? We break it all down on Wednesday’s episode. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 22, 202526 min
Can the Browns build on the momentum of their win over Miami?
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recap the Browns’ win over the Dolphins and turn their attention to the upcoming matchup against the New England Patriots. A major focus is the “Vrabel factor,” as former Browns consultant Mike Vrabel, now the head coach of the Patriots, possesses extensive inside knowledge of Cleveland’s personnel, schemes and coaching tendencies. The crew discusses how the Browns’ offense, which is struggling in the passing game, will handle a Patriots defense designed to take away their strengths. Can Jim Schwartz’s defense, which showed new, aggressive wrinkles against Miami, confuse Patriots’ breakout quarterback Drake Maye? Later, Lance Riesland joins the show to break down the Dolphins film, digging into the Browns’ simulated blitzes and creative fronts that shut down the Dolphins. To wrap up, Lance and Dan hold a draft of the most overrated holiday traditions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 21, 202550 min
How Far Can the Browns Go With This Offense? Hey, Mary Kay!
In this Hey, Mary Kay! episode of Orange and Brown Talk, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe look back at the Browns’ dominant 31–6 win over the Dolphins — a game that showcased one of the league’s most ferocious defenses but also raised fresh questions about the offense’s long-term outlook. Mary Kay and Dan answer questions from Football Insider subscribers, starting by unpacking the Browns’ defensive masterpiece, one that left Tua Tagovailoa looking lost in the rain and wind. They highlight standout performances from Grant Delpit, Rayshawn Jenkins and Tyson Campbell while revisiting Kevin Stefanski’s now-viral “shirtless Schwartz” game ball moment that energized the locker room. Then they shift focus to the other side of the ball, talking all about Dillon Gabriel and if he can hold onto the job. Mary Kay warns it’s not sustainable if defenses keep stacking the box against Quinshon Judkins, who faced eight or more defenders on more than half his carries against Miami. They also debate whether the Browns should look to acquire a veteran wide receiver before the trade deadline and the tyep of receiver they should target if they do. They also explore potential moves involving veterans like David Njoku and Shelby Harris, assess what’s next for the quarterback situation — including when Shedeur Sanders might get his shot — and preview the upcoming test against Mike Vrabel’s Patriots. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 20, 202537 min
What does a win over the Dolphins mean for the Browns? Postgame podcast
The Browns beat the Dolphins, 31-6, on Sunday, a dominant performance by a team in need of a victory. They are now 2-5 on the season. On our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start things off by discussing why the Browns were able to dominate Miami and what it means for them moving forward, if anything. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to go over what he saw in the Browns’ dominating victory to grab their second win of the season and put to rest some of teh questions that followed them around after losing to Pittsburgh a week ago. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 20, 202548 min
Browns vs. Dolphins: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns return home this week and host Miami in a battle of 1-5 teams. Miami is coming off a loss to the Chargers while the Browns are trying to find their offense after a loss to the Steelers last week. On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about the Browns the big storylines for Sunday. They discuss Dillon Gabriel trying to bounce back, the weather's potential impact and the Browns' run game. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Dolphins scouting report and makes his pick. How can the Browns attack the Dolphins defense? How will the defense disrupt Miami's rhythm and timing offense? Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 17, 202534 min
Can the Browns get right against the Dolphins?
The Browns host the Dolphins on Sunday in a matchup of 1-5 teams, both trying to salvage anything out of this season and put something more in the win column. How important is this game for the Browns? It starts with getting their offense going against one of the worst defenses in the league. Will Dillon Gabriel and the passing game find a spark? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about what this game means on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Will the Browns actually figure something out against the Dolphins or will we be talking about a total collapse if they lose this game? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 16, 202525 min
Can the Browns find their offense this week + breaking down the Steelers film
The Browns return home this week to face a Dolphins team that might be in a worse place than they are. Both teams are 1-5 and desperate for a win, but the Browns might be the team most equipped to get one in this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by setting up the week with what they’re watching. Can the offense get fixed? Which team has the better vibes even though both are coming in at 1-5? Did the Browns mess up the start to their season by not handling quarterback correctly? Then Lance Reisland joins for his weekly film breakdown of what he saw in the previous week’s game before Lance and Dan do a villain draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 14, 202552 min
Who's to blame for the Browns struggling offense? Hey, Mary Kay!
The Browns offense struggled once again on Sunday in a 23-9 loss to the Steelers and how to fix it is the biggest topic currently surrounding the team. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the offense on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. First, however, they got into comments from Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin who was critical of Browns GM Andrew Berry trading quarterback Joe Flacco within the division to the Cincinnati Bengals. Then they turn their attention to the offense and discuss what's going wrong on that side of the ball. They also talk about whether Kevin Stefanski is on the hot seat and what happens if they lose to the 1-5 Dolphins on Sunday. They even offer some advice to a fan whose wife is getting tired of him watching the Browns lose every Sunday. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 13, 202541 min
Can the Browns fix their offense and save their season? Postgame podcast
The Browns lost to the Steelers, 23-9, on Sunday and frustration is beginning to build for a football team that is struggling to score and is now 1-5 on the season. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast by talking about the frustration Myles Garrett voiced about another loss and if Browns fans should be concerned. They also talk about the struggling offense and if a change in play-caller would make a difference. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to talk about what he saw from the offense in the loss to the Steelers and why the Browns are struggling so much on special teams. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 13, 202546 min
Browns at Steelers: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns return from London this week and travel to Pittsburgh to face the first-place Steelers. Pittsburgh is 3-1 and fresh off their bye. The Browns are 1-4 following a 21-17 heartbreaker against the Vikings last week. On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about the Browns trading Greg Newsome II and setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday. Then Brian Batko from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette joins the show to give us the latest on the Steelers. He talks about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers offense, if the defense is sustainable and his thoughts on their fast start. Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Steelers scouting report and makes his pick. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 10, 202558 min
Should the Browns make Shedeur Sanders their No. 2 quarterback?
Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski declined to name Shedeur Sanders the No. 2 quarterback for Sunday's game in Pittsburgh, leaving the door open for Bailey Zappe to potentially have the role against the Steelers. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the No. 2 quarterback job on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if the Browns should pick Sanders or Zappe. They talk about why the time might not be right for Sanders and why Zappe might be the best option if the Browns need someone to step in mid-game. They also talk about the plan with Sanders and why it might be too soon to stray from it. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 9, 202528 min
The Browns traded Joe Flacco; what does the quarterback room look like now?
The Browns shocked the NFL world on Tuesday when they traded Joe Flacco and a sixth-round pick to the Bengals in exchange for a fifth-round pick. Flacco was recently displaced as the Browns' starter by rookie Dillon Gabriel. What does this trade mean for the Browns as a whole and, specifically, for their quarterback room? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked through it all in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast. They talk about whether Flacco can revive his career with the Bengals before they turn their attention to the Browns. Are they waving the white flag on the 2025 season? They also talk about how it impacts Shedeur Sanders, who could be in line to move up to No. 2 on the depth chart. Lastly, they talk about the future of Kevin Stefanski and what's next after a bad loss on Sunday in London. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 7, 202551 min
Where do the Browns go from here after devastating loss to Vikings? Postgame podcast
The Browns lost to the Vikings in London on Sunday, 21-17, a loss they snatched from the jaws of victory. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the loss to start off our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. They talk about the defense faltering late with the game on the line then turn their attention to the offense. What did they think of Dillon Gabriel? How do they get their wide receivers going? Then they talk about Kevin Stefanski and if it's time to have some real conversations about his job security. Lance Reisland joins the podcast in the second half to give his instant reaction to the loss, talk about the ending of the game and his thoughts on Gabriel, Stefanski and more. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 6, 20251h 19m
Browns vs. Vikings: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns are in London for their Week 5 game against the Vikings. Minnesota is 2-2 and lost to the Steelers in Dublin in Week 3. The Browns are 1-3 following a 34-10 loss to the Lions in Detroit last week. On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Vikings scouting report and makes his pick. Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 3, 202554 min
Dillon Gabriel is the Browns starting quarterback + Shedeur Sanders makes more headlines
The Browns named Dillon Gabriel their starting quarterback for Sunday’s game in London against the Vikings. Joe Flacco will be the backup quarterback. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision and what they expect from Gabriel when he makes his first career start. How long is his leash as the starter? Is he ready for this moment? Then they address Shedeur Sanders miming his responses to questions when he was asked about the quarterback change and remaining as the third string quarterback. Is what Sanders did wrong? Should he have just declined to talk? Did it tell us anything about Sanders? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oct 2, 202539 min
Why a switch to Dillon Gabriel could spark the Browns offense + breaking down the Lions film
The Browns are heading to London on Wednesday and they could have a new starting quarterback before they leave. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by setting up the week ahead and talking about the potential switch from Joe Flacco to Dillon Gabriel and why they feel like the time is right to make the move. They also talk about the opportunity ahead of the Browns to win a game against a team that is banged up in the wrong spots to be banged up against this defense. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to talk about what he saw on the Lions film and throw a bunch of "Would you rather..." questions at Dan. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 30, 202553 min
Is a potential Browns QB switch to Dillon Gabriel the right decision? Hey, Mary Kay!
The Browns could be on the verge of making a quarterback change following their 34-10 loss to the Lions. Head coach Kevin Stefanski wouldn't commit to Joe Flacco as his starter on Monday. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the potential quarterback change and why it might make sense for the Browns to turn things over to Gabriel. They also talk about the acquisition of tackle Cam Robinson. Then they discuss the emergence of Isaiah Bond and what the Browns should do to fix their special teams. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 30, 202538 min
Should the Browns consider benching Joe Flacco? Postgame podcast
The Browns are once again searching for answers offensively after a 34-10 loss in Detroit on Sunday. While many of the issues run deeper than quarterback, Joe Flacco is getting some heat for the offensive struggles. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the question of whether it's time to hand things over to Dillon Gabriel or stick with Flacco. They talk about the issues Flacco is having as well as the issues overall on the offense and if Gabriel would actually improve anything. Then, Lance Reisland joins the show to discuss the quarterback situation and his thoughts on where the Browns are after four weeks. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 29, 202550 min
Browns at Lions: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns return to the road for their Week 4 game against the Lions. Detroit is 2-1 and the Browns are coming off a dramatic upset win over the Packers and are 1-2. On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Lions scouting report and makes his pick. Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 26, 202555 min
Should the Browns unleash Joe Flacco?
The Browns are trying to find a solution to their struggling offense and it likely starts with the connection between their quarterback, Joe Flacco, and his No. 1 receiver Jerry Jeudy. Getting them going would go a long ways to jumpstarting an offense that has not been good over the season's first three weeks. What if part of the problem, too, is being too conservative? Is it time to let Flacco cook? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the offense, Flacco and Jeudy on Wednesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Are they too scared about Flacco turning the ball over? Or is this the right formula? Then they look at some of the injuries the Browns are monitoring going into Sunday, including Denzel Ward, who didn't practice on Wednesday and would be a big loss if he's unable to play on Sunday for some reason. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 24, 202527 min
Browns and Lions pose intriguing matchup + Packers film breakdown
The Browns and their elite defense go to Detroit this year to try and slow down an elite Lions offense that has been in a rhythm the last two weeks. It’s the type of matchup that makes the NFL must-watch TV. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking at storylines and things they’re thinking as Week 4 gets going. How will the Browns deal with the Lions offense? Can Kevin Stefanski outcoach Dan Campbell? Is Dillon Gabriel’s debut looming? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on film in the Browns’ win over the Packers. Then Dan and Lance do a draft of things that remind them of the ‘90s. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 23, 20251h 4m
What will the Browns do at tackle? What's next for Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!
The Browns won in dramatic fashion on Sunday over the Packers but were met with bad news on Monday when head coach Kevin Stefanski announced tackle Dawand Jones' season was over. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by reliving Sunday's win and then digging into what losing Jones means for the Browns tackle position and the offensive line long term. Then they talk about Quinshon Judkins and the running game and if it can help open up the passing game as well as Joe Flacco's struggles and how long his leash is, even after Sunday's win. Lastly, they talk Shedeur Sanders and his dad confirming the report he told the Ravens not to draft him, Mary Kay's conversation with Sanders and how Sanders' thoughts on how close he is to being ready coincide with the Browns' plans at quarterback, including potentially in next year's draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 22, 202549 min
How did the Browns pull that upset over the Packers? Postgame podcast
The Browns used a frantic final four minutes to pull an upset over the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field. They beat the previously undefeated Packers, 13-10. Our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown talk podcast begins with Mary Kay Cabot joining Dan Labbe to share her thoughts on the win and why the Browns were able to pull it off. Then Lance Reisland and Ashley Bastock joined as part of our live postgame podcast, which we record every Sunday at 8 p.m. They talk about why the Browns were able to win this game, the performance of the defense, if this formula is sustainable and what it means for this team moving forward. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 22, 20251h 0m
Browns vs. Packers: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns return home for their Week 3 game against the Packers. Green Bay is 2-0 while the Browns are winless. On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Packers scouting report and makes his pick. Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 19, 20251h 0m
Can the Browns figure out a way to neutralize Green Bay? + Dawand Jones rotates + Is Mike Hall getting close?
Green Bay is bringing a monster of a defense to Cleveland on Sunday, a group that spent the first two weeks of the season harassing quarterbacks and shutting down offenses. Will the Browns and veteran quarterback Joe Flacco be able to figure this defense out or will they once again struggle like they did against the Ravens in Week 2? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing how the Browns can try to figure this defense out. Then they talk about the decision to rotate Dawand Jones at left tackle to try to alleviate concerns about the heat. Lastly, they talk about the potential return of Mike Hall Jr.? Could he be back this week? What does he bring to the defensive line? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 17, 202528 min
Browns face toughest challenge yet, Baker Mayfield’s rise, Ravens film review + all-time team draft
The Browns are hosting the Packers on Sunday and it presents another stiff test for this team and especially this offense. Green Bay is 2-0 and the Browns are 0-2 and desperately need a win. Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast starts with Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe setting up Packers week. They talk about the Browns’ scuffling offense against an elite Packers defense and how the Browns defense will handle the Packers’ weapons. They also talk a little about Baker Mayfield’s rise in Tampa Bay. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the film from the Browns’ loss to Baltimore. Lastly, Dan and Lance draft their all-time teams. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 16, 20251h 15m
Is sticking with Joe Flacco the right decision by the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!
The Browns are 0-2 and coming off a brutal offensive performance on Sunday in a 41-17 loss to Baltimore. Quarterback Joe Flacco didn't perform well and it has some folks wondering if a change might be in order. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision to stick with Flacco and if they think it's the right move by Kevin Stefanski. Then they talk about some of the other things that went wrong on Sunday, including poor special teams play that put their defense in a bad position. They also talk about the outlook for the team now that they're 0-2 and how the Browns can try to keep things from going off the rails. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 15, 202540 min
Should the Browns stick with Joe Flacco? Browns postgame podcast
The Browns were blown out in Baltimore and now there are questions about what they should do at quarterback. Head coach Kevin Stefanski supported starting quarterback Joe Flacco after a difficult day in his return to Baltimore. Is Stefanski doing the right thing? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the quarterback decision and if sticking with Flacco is the right move. They also talk about the report regarding Shedeur Sanders telling the Ravens to not draft him. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to talk about what he saw. What should the Browns do at quarterback? What went wrong on offense and special teams? Is there reason for hope? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 15, 20251h 2m
Browns at Ravens: Picks, preview and scouting report
The Browns head to Baltimore for their Week 2 game against the Ravens. Both teams are 0-1 and both teams are desperate for a win. We get into all angles of this matchup in the Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Ravens scouting report and makes his pick. Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 11, 202556 min
Are the Browns making the right choice at kicker? + Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore and running back Dylan Sampson
Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore is the big storyline this week as the Browns take on the Ravens Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Flacco's return and how he'll handle the emotions of being back in Baltimore. Could the Browns rally behind him to get him a win? Then they talk about the team's decision to stick with kicker Andre Szmyt and whether they think the Browns are doing the right thing. Could it cost them if they keep things close in Baltimore? Then Dan caught up with running back Dylan Sampson in the locker room on Wednesday. Listen to his interview for a story that will go up on Thursday. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 10, 202532 min
Browns head into Ravens week, breaking down the Bengals film + digging into NFL Draft QBs
We're getting you ready for Ravens week on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk while also looking back on Sunday and way ahead to the NFL Draft. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this edition of the podcast by sharing their thoughts ahead of the Browns' matchup in Baltimore. They talk about Joe Flacco's return to his old stomping grounds and if they believe the Browns can pull an upset. Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over what he saw watching the film from the Browns' loss to Cincinnati on Sunday. Lastly, Tim Bielik joins Lance and Dan to talk about a few of the quarterbacks who could be in this upcoming NFL Draft and their thoughts after Week 2 of the college football season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 9, 20251h 32m
How are the Browns balancing trying to win and playing young players? Hey, Mary Kay!
The Browns appear to be straddling the line between rebuilding and trying to win and it showed on Sunday, when they played well enough to win but made enough inexperienced mistakes to lose. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the Browns’ kicking situation and what they’ll do after Andre Szmyt missed an extra point and a go-ahead field goal. They also talk about what they can take away from Sunday’s loss to the Bengals and how much of it they credit to how Browns vs. Bengals games always seem to go. They answer questions about the performance of the secondary and where the Browns and discuss a need for more playmaking from the safety position. They also talk about the return of running back Quinshon Judkins and what to expect from him once he is on the field. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 9, 202544 min
Is it panic time for the Browns or are there things to build on? Postgame podcast
The Browns lost to the Bengals, 17-16, on Sunday, turning the ball over twice and missing two kicks, including a potential game-winning field goal. So, is it panic time for the Browns or are there positives they can build on even though they are off to an 0-1 start. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe talked about the loss on a live postgame podcast on Sunday night. They discussed the kicking situation and some of the positives and negatives to take away from this first game. Are the Browns destined to lose a few more in a row now? Will they turn a dominant performance by the defense in the second half into some wins?They cover everything on their postgame podcast. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 8, 202556 min
Browns vs. Bengals preview and picks + Joe Thomas on his expectations and more
The Browns open their season on Sunday against the Bengals at Huntington Bank Field in Cleveland. It's a game where both teams are eager to get off to a strong start. In our first Orange and Brown Talk podcast preview of the season, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look at the big storylines going into the game, including the health of Myles Garrett, and they discuss their outlook for the season. Then Hall of Fame left tackle Joe Thomas joins the podcast to talk about his expectations for the Browns, Dawand Jones at left tackle and the Browns' culture. Lance Reisland gives his scouting report on the Bengals and makes his pick. Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for the game before Football Insider subscribers offer up their season predictions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 5, 20251h 16m
What is a realistic expectation for Joe Flacco in his Browns return?
Joe Flacco is back with the Browns and many fans are hoping he can recapture the magic that made him a cult hero here in 2023. Can Flacco, at age 40, bring back memories of that 5-game run to end the season and push the Browns to the playoffs or are people asking too much of him two seasons later? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Flacco and whether he'll take this team to unexpected heights or be on the bench sooner rather than later. They also talk about the matchup between the Browns secondary and Bengals receivers highlight Sunday's Week 1 game. Then they talk about Isaiah Bond and if the Browns can unlock his speed in a way they have been unable to with other fast receivers. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 3, 202527 min
What area of the Browns are people overlooking in 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!
Week 1 is officially here and that means a new Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from Football Insider subscribers on Tuesday's edition of the podcast. They start by talking about an area of the Browns that is being overlooked as national pundits talk about the team and what they could do this season. They also talk about reasonable expectations for the first four games of the season.Then they answer questions about Joe Flacco, Quinshon Judkins and the running game and how far away the Browns are to getting back into contention. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sep 2, 202546 min
Most likely Browns rookie to succeed, who will leave us speechless and more Browns superlatives for 2025
The Orange and Brown Talk podcast is positive vibes on Friday's episode. Well, mostly positive vibes. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this episode by discussing the Cowboys trade of Micah Parsons to the Packers and if it makes them rethink the Browns' approach to Myles Garrett's trade request. Then they turn their attention to the 2025 roster and attach superlatives to players. Who is the most likely to break out? Which rookie is most likely to succeed? Who will make their first Pro Bowl? Who will leave us speechless? + more. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 29, 20251h 16m
Does the Browns signing Bailey Zappe tell us anything about their quarterback room?
The Browns brought back quarterback Bailey Zappe on their practice squad, adding a fourth quarterback to a group that includes Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders. Does Zappe's addition tell us anything? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe think it might and they get into it on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss Zappe's addition and why the quarterback it might impact the most is Shedeur Sanders. They even ask the question: Who is more likely to start this season: Zappe or Deshaun Watson? Then they talk about the addition of running back Raheim 'Rocket' Sanders and if it has anything to do with the ongoing Quinshon Judkins situation. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 28, 202525 min
Kenny Pickett traded, Dustin Hopkins cut and more reaction to the Browns' initial 53-man roster
The Browns have a new backup quarterback and a new kicker. Those were the highlights of their initial roster trim to 53. They traded quarterback Kenny Pickett on Monday night and cut kicker Dustin Hopkins on Tuesday, meaning Dillon Gabriel is now the backup quarterback and Andre Szmyt is the kicker. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the initial 53-man roster on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talked about the decision to hand the No. 2 QB job to a rookie and why the Browns made the decision to move on from Hopkins. They also talked about some other decisions the team made on their initial 53. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 27, 202529 min
Shedeur Sanders conspiracy theories and Browns roster decisions
Conspiracy theories are flying about the Browns and their treatment of Shedeur Sanders. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start during the Monday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Have they ever seen anything like this with a Browns quarterback? Is there any legitimacy to it? Have they handled the situation with Sanders the right way? Then they turn their attention to roster cuts. Mary Kay and Dan made very different choices with their wide receiver room projection, so they discuss the decision between Diontae Johnson and Gage Larvadain. Is it all about performance or is there more to it? Lastly, they discuss the situation with Quinhson Judkins' roster spot and how the Browns will handle Dustin Hopkins and the kicker position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 25, 202549 min
What should we make of performances by Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel vs. Rams: Postgame podcast
The Browns wrapped up the preseason by beating the Rams on Saturday at Huntington Bank Field. The result doesn't matter, of course, but the quarterback play does. Rookie Dillon Gabriel continued to push for the No. 2 quarterback job while fellow rookie Shedeur Sanders struggled and was visibly frustrated after he didn't get to run a two-minute drill at the end of the game. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the game in their postgame podcast, starting with audio from their postgame video and then diving into the performances from Gabriel and Sanders. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 24, 202527 min
Shedeur Sanders embraces the spotlight and the Browns prepare for their dress rehearsal game
On Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot, and Ashley Bastock talk Shedeur Sanders' and his candid response to Dillon Gabriel's entertainer vs. competitor comments, his adjustment to a backup role and how he's keeping things light in the quarterback room. They also discuss the upcoming preseason game, highlighting what they hope to see from the starters, including Joe Flacco's offensive efficiency and the performance of the defensive line. They speculate on fan reactions to Gabriel and Sanders and debate whether Kenny Pickett's injury might impact the backup quarterback decision. Plus, they look at the Browns' offensive line and a surprising revelation about Rams quarterback Dresser Winn. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 21, 202528 min
Myles Garrett's speeding fallout, looming roster decisions and approach to Saturday's dress rehearsal
On Wednesday's epsiode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot,and Ashley Bastock talk Myles Garrett, QB decisions and more. Myles Garrett's responsde to speeding ticket: They discuss Myles Garrett's response to questions and debate whether he handled the situation appropriately. Which quarterbacks will play on Saturday: They look ahead to the Browns' final preseason game against the Rams and which quarterbacks will play. Injury Updates: What's the latest on Denzel Ward's status and Cedric Tillman's thumb injury. Roster Moves: What does the Jowon Briggs trade to the Jets tell us? Receiver Room: A breakdown of the Browns' current wide receiver situation, including the emergence of Isaiah Bond and Jamari Thrash. Does Diontae Johnson have a chance to make it? JOK's presence: Thoughts on seeing JOK at practice and the positive impact he has on the team's morale and young players. Segments: Introduction (0:00-1:05) Myles Garrett's speeding ticket (1:05-13:15) Which quarterbacks might play on Saturday? (13:15-17:02) Injury updates and roster moves (17:02-21:40) Receiver room discussion (21:40-27:52) JOK sideline presence (27:52-31:13) Conclusion (31:13-31:32) Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 20, 202534 min
How long will Joe Flacco hold onto the Browns starting quarterback job?
On Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into everything going on with the Browns as they prepare for their final preseason game. Joe Flacco as Starting Quarterback Flacco's opportunity: They discuss Flacco's role as the starting quarterback, highlighting concerns about his age and the potential for turnovers. Kenny Pickett's future: They also talk about the Browns’ interest in Kenny Pickett. Isaiah Bond's Legal Issues Controversial Player Decisions: The episode addresses Bond's legal troubles and how the team is navigating the situation. Is it time to hear from GM Andrew Berry again? Injury Update on Denzel Ward Impact on the Team: How would it impact the Browns if Ward misses time? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 20, 202539 min
Joe Flacco wins the Browns’ QB competition: Now what? + Isaiah Bond signs
It was a newsy Monday and in the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the latest developments surrounding the Browns. Joe Flacco Named Starting Quarterback: The Browns officially named Flacco as their starting QB. Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan discuss the evolution of the four-way quarterback competition, particularly how Kenny Pickett's injury influenced the decision, and analyze why Flacco was the choice. Rookie Quarterback Performance: They get into Dillon Gabriel's preseason performance against the Eagles and how it showcased his poise and decision-making. They compare Gabriel with Shedeur Sanders and address the challenges the Browns face in evaluating rookie quarterbacks with potentially limited regular season snaps. Isaiah Bond Signs with the Browns: The Browns signed Isaiah Bond to a fully guaranteed three-year deal. They cover the factors leading to this decision and the background work the Browns did, Bond's physical traits and how he fits into the Browns' receiving corps, along with the potential risks and rewards of his signing. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 18, 202549 min
Did Dillon Gabriel make his case on Saturday against the Eagles? Postgame podcast
The Browns won their preseason game on Saturday against the Eagles, 22-13, and Dillon Gabriel was efficient in his first start of the preseason. Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe broke down all elements of the game on the Orange and Brown Talk live postgame podcast. They started by discussing the play of Gabriel and his efficiency running the offense and what happened on the pick-six he threw and the fumbled handoff. Did Gabriel quiet some of the noise around the quarterback battle? Then they talked about the continued strong play of the Browns defensive line after two dominating joint practices against the Eagles. Will the defensive line allow them to win more games than people project this season? They also discuss depth at the wide receiver and cornerback positions and how the Browns might make their final roster decisions and who is on the bubble with cut-down day getting closer. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 16, 20251h 4m
Will Quinshon Judkins rejoin the Browns soon + why would they consider signing Isaiah Bond?
The Browns were the center of controversy on Thursday evening following their second joint practice with the Eagles. Running back Quinshon Judkins won’t be charged in Florida in his domestic violence case and it clears the way for him to return to the Browns soon. Then, shortly after wide receiver Isaiah Bond saw a no-bill returned in his sexual assault case, he released a statement saying he was signing with the Browns. The Browns say they are doing their due diligence. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed both situations on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start with Judkins and what’s next for him and the Browns. Could he still get suspended? When will he return? Then they talk about Bond and wonder why the Browns are bringing him in, given the various incidents that have happened with their players over the last few years. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 15, 202527 min
Shedeur Sanders' oblique injury + recapping Day 1 of Browns-Eagles joint practices
The Browns first joint practice against the Eagles on Wednesday was overshadowed slightly when rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders was held out of team drills after suffering an oblique injury early in practice. It means Sanders won’t practice Thursday and is unlikely to get the chance to follow up his strong preseason debut with another good outing in Saturday’s preseason game. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are in Philadelphia and recapped what they saw at the joint practice, starting with the Sanders news and what it means, if anything, for the quarterback competition. They also discuss what they watched at practice and how they thought the Browns held up against the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 14, 202529 min
Browns quarterback battle remains unchanged as they head to Philadelphia
Some Browns fans wondered if Shedeur Sanders' performance in the preseason opener might shake up the 4-way quarterback competition as they head into a week featuring two joint practices against the Eagles. During Monday's practice, things remained about the same, with Joe Flacco handling most of the first-team reps. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in Berea on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the state of the competition and why the Browns are continuing to slow play things with Sanders. They also look ahead to this week's practices and what they're watching. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 11, 202529 min
How did Shedeur Sanders' performance impact the Browns' QB battle?
Shedeur Sanders' preseason debut took the NFL world by storm on Friday night. Did it flip the Browns' quarterback competition on its head? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked at the state of the Browns' 4-way competition following an electrifying performance by Sanders against the Panthers. They start by discussing their thoughts on Sanders and how he played before they turned the page to how the Browns will handle things now that the NFL world has Shedeur-mania. Mary Kay also takes us behind the scenes of what it was like in Carolina for Sanders' debut. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 9, 202539 min
Did Shedeur Sanders make his case Friday night? Postgame podcast
On this postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' preseason-opening victory against the Carolina Panthers. The main topic for discussion, of course, was rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Dan and Lance get into his performance, his best plays and potential impact this could have on the quarterback competition. They also touch on other standouts from the game, including Luke Floriea, Gage Larvadain and how the running game looked. They look at the Browns' defense and special teams and their strong performances and glimpse ahead to joint practices with the Philadelphia Eagles next week. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 9, 20251h 1m
Shedeur Sanders' opportunity and Joe Flacco's momentum in Browns' QB competition
The Browns are in Carolina and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get caught up on what happened Wednesday during a joint practice between the Browns and Panthers. Mary Kay, who is in Carolina, discusses what she saw on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. In this episode they discuss: Shedeur Sanders' start: Does Sanders' upcoming start in the preseason game against the Panthers represent a real opportunity for him to shake up the quarterback race or just another chance to get reps with the backups? Joe Flacco's push: Flacco's growing momentum in camp, including quotes from Flacco himself about his desire to win the starting job, have them wondering if Flacco is the frontrunner at this point. Practice insights: Mary Kay shares her observations from the Browns' practice in Carolina, including how the starting offense performed against the Panthers' starting defense. Preseason perspective: The importance (or lack thereof) of preseason games and joint practices in evaluating players and making roster decisions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 7, 202529 min
Shedeur Sanders expected to start for the Browns + Mike Kaye preview the Panthers
Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders is expected to start on Friday night against the Panthers, following a joint practice against them on Wednesday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Sanders’ potential start and what it means for the fifth-round pick moving forward. They talk about Sanders’ opportunity to get first-team reps for the first time and if he can disrupt this quarterback battle with a strong week. Then, Mike Kaye from the Charlotte Observer joins the show to tell you everything you need to know about the Panthers. What will Sanders face against the Panthers? How has Bryce Young progressed? Mike discusses it all. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 5, 202543 min
Browns sign Tyler Huntley (but first, 15 minutes on the other quarterbacks)
The Browns signed quarterback Tyler Huntley on Monday night right as Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe were recording their normal Orange and Brown Talk podcast training camp recap pod. The first 15(ish) minutes of the podcast is spent resetting the quarterback competition as the Browns head to Carolina for a joint practice on Wednesday and then their preseason opener on Friday. They talked some of the Browns quarterback options pre-Huntley and why it matters that Sanders came out of his arm soreness Saturday OK and it didn't seem like Dillon Gabriel was super limited on Monday. Then the Browns signed Huntley. Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan reacted in real time. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 5, 202523 min
Shedeur Sanders reports arm soreness and the Browns' QB battle starts to take shape
In this episode, the Orange and Brown Talk team of Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by talking about the arm soreness that kept rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders out of team drills on Saturday. They discuss how Sanders' arm issue prevented him from participating in team drills and if it's a concern moving forward. They also explore Kenny Pickett's frustration with his hamstring injury, which prevents him from utilizing his mobility, a key differentiator in the quarterback battle. The conversation shifts to Joe Flacco, who seems to be gaining momentum in the competition. With injuries affecting the other quarterbacks, Flacco's experience and familiarity with the system position him as a comfortable choice for the coaching staff, especially with tough early-season matchups looming. The podcast also touches on Dillon Gabriel's performance, noting that he hasn't seized the opportunity to build momentum. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes that with the preseason games and joint practices against Carolina and Philadelphia approaching, time is running out for the quarterbacks to make their case for the starting role. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 2, 202524 min
Hear Mary Kay Cabot's speech accepting the Bill Nunn award at Pro Football Hall of Fame Gold Jacket dinner
Mary Kay Cabot is a Hall of Famer. She accepted the Bill Nunn award on Friday night at the Gold Jacket Dinner in Canton. On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to her entire acceptance speech. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 2, 202516 min
Browns training camp gets physical on Wednesday
On Wednesday's training camp recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labby, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start by focusing on the increased physicality of camp before moving on to the quarterback competition before they discuss the impact of Martin Emerson Jr.'s season-ending injury. Topics include: Live Tackling: For the first time under Kevin Stefanski, the Browns engaged in live tackling during practice. Quarterback Competition: Shedeur Sanders got reps against the first-team defense. Dillon Gabriel is getting more opportunities but is showing inconsistencies. It's starting to look like Joe Flacco's team. Martin Emerson Jr.'s Injury: This creates an opportunity for Greg Newsome II. Denzel Ward: Ward had a standout practice. If Ward stays healthy, he could be in contention for Defensive Player of the Year. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 30, 202532 min
Browns lose Martin Emerson Jr. + the Haslams hold their annual press conference
On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing the devastating Achilles injury suffered by cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. during practice. They share their personal feelings about Emerson and experiences with his dedication, positive attitude and the unfortunate timing of the injury as he enters a contract year. They also discuss the impact on the team's cornerback depth, potential replacements like Greg Newsome II, and how defensive strategies might have to shift. Then they discuss what Dee and Jimmy Haslam's said on Tuesday. They start by addressing how the Haslams addressed Quinshon Judkins' domestic violence case and the team's approach to addressing such issues. They also talked about Jimmy Haslam's response to the narrative that he influenced the drafting of Shedeur Sanders, emphasizing the team's evaluation of rookie quarterbacks and the long-term outlook for the position. The podcast concludes with a debate about the Haslams' messaging regarding a potential rebuild, balancing realistic expectations with the need to maintain a winning culture and fan morale. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 29, 202544 min
How Kenny Pickett's injury will impact the Browns quarterback competition
The Browns quarterback battle took a major turn this weekend. Kenny Pickett's hamstring injury threw a wrench into the competition, potentially opening the door for Joe Flacco to seize the starting role and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about it on their Day 5 training camp recap podcast. On Monday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast they discussed: The impact of Pickett's injury and the uncertainty surrounding his return. How Flacco can capitalize on the increased first-team reps. Whether Shedeur Sanders will get a chance to shine with the first team. Standout players from today's practice, including Diontae Johnson and Carson Schwesinger. (plus, hear about Ashley's feature on Schwesinger.) Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 28, 202532 min
Is it time for the Browns to whittle down their QB competition?
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the ongoing quarterback competition for the Browns and whether it's time to narrow down the contenders. They discuss the potential of both rookie quarterbacks, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel, alongside Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and debate whether the team should focus primarily on Flacco and Pickett as the frontrunners for the starting position. They also highlight the apparent maturity displayed by Shedeur Sanders, who is adapting well to the competition and what they've seen from him as a teammate and a person. Then they dig into the Browns' wide receiver situation. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 26, 202535 min
How will the Browns proceed with Quinshon Judkins? + The QB competition continues
Browns GM Andrew Berry addressed the arrest of Quinshon Judkins and Shedeur Sanders’ speeding tickets for the first time on Thursday at Browns training camp. Berry held his annual training camp press conference on Day 2 of camp. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe addressed what Berry said, starting with how he handled questions about Judkins and his arrest and ongoing legal case. They talked about whether the Browns could actually consider not bringing Judkins to camp or parting ways with the running back. Then they talked about Sanders’ speeding issues and what Berry had to say to the rookie quarterback as well as how Sanders might handle things on Friday when he talks to the media. They wrap up by updating the four-way quarterback competition and why things are so complicated. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 25, 202531 min
Did we learn anything new about the Browns' quarterbacks on Wednesday?
The Browns are back at training camp and practiced for the first time on Wednesday. It marks the real start to the team's four-man quarterback competition and it was mostly status quo during the first practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the opening practice of training camp on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They started by talking about what they saw from the four quarterbacks, especially the two rookies. Then they talked about the vibes around practice. The Browns are promising a more physical, competitive camp and they discussed if they are already seeing signs. They also touch on Quinshon Judkins and what Kevin Stefanski did -- or didn't say -- about the rookie running back. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 24, 202532 min
Reasons to get excited for Browns training camp this summer
The Browns practice for the first time on Wednesday as they open their training camp and they are flying under the radar in a way they haven't the past few years. It's fair to say, in fact, maybe people aren't super excited about this camp. So what should they get excited about? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into some things fans can get excited about on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss the four-way quarterback competition, the new-look defensive line and moving past Deshaun Watson. They even spend a little time recapping their brief summer breaks. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 22, 202536 min
What's next for the Browns and Quinshon Judkins + Will they get a real QB evaluation this season?
The Browns are opening training camp this week, but first they are dealing with Quinshon Judkins' arrest. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the latest regarding the team's rookie running back and what to expect with camp opening. Then they turn their attention to the four-way quarterback competition that is really getting underway this week. Does anyone have the leg up as camp kicks off? Have they created a scenario where it's going to be too difficult to get a real evaluation on any of the young quarterbacks? They also talk about draft positioning and how it impacts roster decisions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 21, 202548 min
How can Shedeur Sanders win the Browns starting job?
The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job. Fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders seems like a long shot to start Week 1, but is there a scenario where it could happen? What would it ultimately look like? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job. Today they discuss Sanders and where he needs to catch up and make an NFL comp for the young signal-caller that would be ideal for the Browns if he reached that level. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 18, 202526 min
How can Dillon Gabriel win the Browns starting job?
The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job. Dillon Gabriel was a surprise third-round pick by the Browns, but his selection indicates they believe in him and have high hopes for him to compete. Will he prove them right? Will his size be an issue? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue our series going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job. Today they discuss Gabriel and why it's not the longest shot on the roster for him to win the job. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 16, 202523 min
How can Kenny Pickett win the Browns starting job?
The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job. Kenny Pickett is a former first-round pick and he represented the first move the Browns made this offseason, acquiring from the Eagles in a trade. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue our series going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job. Today they discuss Pickett and if he can live up to what the Steelers thought he could be when they selected him in 2022. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 14, 202522 min
How can Joe Flacco win the Browns starting job?
The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job. Joe Flacco saved the Browns' season in 2023 and is back in 2025. What does he need to do to win the job? What will it look like if he does? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job. Today they discuss Flacco and why it might make the most sense to start the season with him as the top signal-caller. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 11, 202524 min
Which non-QB prospects should Browns fans know in the 2026 NFL Draft?
We're still talking NFL Draft on this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe move away from the quarterbacks and look at other players Browns fans should get to know with two first-round picks next year. They discuss a transitioning offensive line before the conversation shifts to wide receivers. They also explore defensive prospects, including Ohio State's Caleb Downs, The episode concludes with a lightning round of quick prospect names. Highlights: Spencer Fano from Utah is a standout offensive line prospect. Caleb Downs is a top safety prospect with great ball skills. Nyck Harbor is an athletic receiver with immense potential. The Browns may need to focus on offensive line depth in the draft. Harold Perkins is a versatile linebacker with playmaking ability. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 9, 202535 min
Which quarterbacks do Browns fans need to know in the 2026 NFL Draft?
We're starting draft prep on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the upcoming NFL draft, focusing first on the quarterback prospects for the 2026 class. They discuss various players, including LaNorris Sellers, Garrett Nussmeier, Cade Klubnik and others. The conversation highlights the importance of physical tools, production, and the ability to perform under pressure, as well as the evolving landscape of college football and its influence on draft prospects. They discuss Drew Allar, a local talent, and his performance at Penn State, as well as emerging quarterbacks like John Mateer, Fernando Mendoza and Haynes King. Takeaways LaNorris Sellers is a unique prospect with impressive physical tools. Cade Klubnik's performance improved significantly after he started running more. The 2026 class is loaded with talent. Drew Allar has the physical tools but needs to improve decision-making. Top NFL Draft 2026 Quarterback Prospects Unveiled Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 7, 202545 min
Is talent more important than scheme? + Jim Schwartz's philosophies
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into various aspects of football strategy, focusing mostly on the defensive side of the ball. They start by discussing the importance of choosing between the best available talent versus scheme fit during the draft, Jim Schwartz's defensive philosophy group-by-group, the roles of defensive linemen, linebackers and cornerbacks. They wrap up by discussing the significance of special teams, even talking a little about long snappers. Takeaways You win with players, not schemes. Defensive linemen create madness in the backfield. Linebackers are “covering kicks.” Pressure is more important than sacks. Safeties tell the truth in coverage. You lose games with blocked punts. Special teams operations must be elite. Long snappers are specialized roles. Chapters 0:00 Drafting Strategies: Talent vs. Scheme Fit 4:51 Understanding Jim Schwartz's Defensive Philosophy 10:11 Linebackers and Their Role in Schwartz's Defense 15:10 Cornerbacks and Safety Deployment in Coverage 20:04 Defensive Fronts: 4-3 vs. 3-4 and Long Snapper Insights Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 2, 202527 min
How the Browns' offensive line works and the importance of personnel groupings: Football 101
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into the intricacies of football strategy and the Browns. They discuss the struggles of the Browns' offensive line, the importance of identity and the nuances of pass protection. The conversation also covers Kevin Stefanski's run scheme, personnel groupings and the impact of quarterback height on performance. They even get into the effectiveness of the Eagles' 'Tush Push' play and the qualities needed in a quarterback to fit the Browns' strategy for success. Takeaways The offensive line needs a clear identity to succeed. Kevin Stefanski's run scheme focuses on weak side zone and gap schemes. Understanding personnel groupings is crucial for offensive strategy. Nickel and dime packages are defensive adjustments based on offensive formations. The Eagles' 'tush push' is effective due to their physicality and technique. Joe Flacco may be the best fit for the Browns' current offensive strategy. Chapters 0:00 Introduction to Football 101 1:01 Browns Offensive Line Struggles and Solutions 5:24 Pass Protection Changes and Impact of Quarterback Style 10:25 Understanding Kevin Stefanski's Run Scheme 13:27 Personnel Groupings: 11, 12, and 13 Packages 17:09 Defensive Packages: Nickel and Dime Explained 19:47 Quarterback Height and Its Impact 22:52 The Tush Push: Why It Works for the Eagles 27:09 Browns' Quarterback Strategy for Winning Games 30:21 Best Suited Quarterback for the Browns' Offense Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 1, 202535 min
What did we learn about Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel in offseason program?
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland recap the Browns' offseason program, focusing first on quarterback evaluations, defensive line insights and more. They analyze the performances of rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, the potential of the defensive line with the addition of Mason Graham and the concerns surrounding the receiving corps. The conversation also covers the running back situation and improvements in the offensive line, providing a comprehensive overview of the team's preparations leading into the season. Takeaways Dillon Gabriel showed polished footwork and an elite arm. Shedeur Sanders has accuracy but needs to improve footwork. Quarterback competition is influenced by team investment in players. Mason Graham is expected to excel once pads are on. Concerns exist about the depth of the receiving corps. Cedric Tillman is a key player to watch this season. Quinshon Judkins could be a significant contributor in the run game. The offensive line looks improved and in better shape this year. Chapters 0:00 Introduction and Overview of Upcoming Podcasts 3:03 Quarterback Evaluations: Dillon Gabriel 6:12 Quarterback Evaluations: Shedeur Sanders 8:45 Quarterback Competition and Future Prospects 12:01 Defensive Line Insights: Mason Graham 17:52 Defensive Line Analysis and Young Players 21:01 Concerns About the Receiving Corps 23:04 Running Back Evaluations: Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson 29:54 Offensive Line Improvements and Overall Team Outlook Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 30, 202535 min
Can a humbled Diontae Johnson resurrect his career in Cleveland?
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Diontae Johnson's recent appearance on a podcast, where he reflected on his tumultuous past year in the NFL. They explore the implications of his admission of humility, the red flags in his behavior with previous teams, and the opportunities that lie ahead with the Browns. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of the quarterback competition, roster changes, and insights into the upcoming training camp. Takeaways Diontae Johnson admitted to being humbled. His past behavior raised red flags about his attitude and commitment. Johnson's performance in Carolina showed potential but was marred by attitude issues. The Browns see Johnson as a reclamation project with Pro Bowl potential. Kenny Pickett's role in the quarterback competition is still evolving. Johnson needs to embrace his role and be a good teammate. The Browns' roster changes reflect a focus on cost-saving measures. Fans should watch for the dynamics between the quarterbacks during camp. Chapters 0:00 Diontae Johnson's Humbling Experience 12:05 Red Flags and Opportunities 19:31 Kenny Pickett and Quarterback Dynamics 23:43 Roster Changes and Cost-Saving Measures 28:11 Training Camp Insights Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 26, 202532 min
Which Browns players face critical seasons in 2025?
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss players for the Browns who have things to prove in the upcoming season. They talk about the futures of players like Greg Newsome II and Martin Emerson Jr., both of whom are in contract years. The conversation also covers Dawand Jones’ transition to left tackle, a decision on whether or not to extend David Njoku and Diontae Johnson's last chance to make an impact in the NFL. Each player's performance this season could have lasting implications for their careers and the team's success. Takeaways Newsome is on his fifth-year option and needs to prove himself. Martin Emerson needs a rebound year to secure his future with the team. Jones is transitioning to left tackle, a critical position for the Browns. Njoku is in a contract year. Johnson has a lot to prove after being signed by the Browns. The Browns need to make decisions on multiple players this season. Injuries have impacted Njoku's performance in recent years. The Browns are looking for cost-effective solutions in their roster management. Player development is crucial for the Browns' success this season. Chapters (AI-generated) 0:00 Introduction to Key Players for the Browns 2:41 Newsome’s Future and Role 6:54 Emerson's Development and Challenges 12:28 Jones’ transition to Left Tackle 18:07 Njoku's Contract Year and Expectations 23:43 Johnson's Last Chance in the NFL Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 25, 202531 min
What is the Browns formula for winning in 2025?
In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' formula for winning this season. They focus on the importance of turnovers, the need for a strong running game and the potential of the defense. They discuss the significance of playing clean football and the impact of young players stepping up on the defensive side of the ball. Takeaways The Browns need to play clean football to win games. Turnovers are crucial; winning the turnover battle increases chances of victory. The defense must adopt a mentality of forcing turnovers. A strong running game is essential for controlling the clock. Young players have opportunities to prove themselves this season. The offensive strategy may return to a more traditional run-heavy approach. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 24, 202530 min
Will any of the Browns current QBs start Week 1 of the 2026 season? Hey, Mary Kay!
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on the potential for a new starter in 2026, the implications of having a left-handed quarterback and the media attention surrounding Shedeur Sanders. This Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast also addresses preseason strategies under Kevin Stefanski and the dynamics of the interior defensive line, discussing the mix of young players and veterans on the inside. Takeaways The Browns are likely to draft a quarterback in the first round next year. Shedeur Sanders garners media attention due to his fame and potential. Kevin Stefanski may prioritize joint practices over preseason games for evaluations. The interior defensive line features a mix of young talent and experienced players. Mason Graham and Mike Hall Jr. are expected to bring pressure from the inside. The Browns' quarterback situation remains fluid and uncertain. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 23, 202537 min
Does Shedeur Sanders speeding ticket matter?
Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders has had two speeding stops twice recently and it has made headlines. Are we making too big a deal of this or is this something that could impact the team's quarterback competition? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about why these recent incidents do matter and if there's anything to read into this as far as how far Sanders still needs to go before he's ready to be the face of an NFL franchise. Are they concerned about what's happened recently or is it a blip on the radar? Does this play a role in the 4-man quarterback competition the Browns are currently holding? They discuss the incident on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 19, 202528 min
Myles Garrett's next level, Dawand Jones' potential and draft pick futures
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss key questions surrounding the Browns as they approach training camp. The conversation centers on Myles Garrett's leadership and expectations, the challenges faced by Dawand Jones in establishing himself at left tackle and the future of Andrew Berry’s draft picks and who, among them, is facing an important season in 2025. Chapters (AI generated) 00:00 Introduction to the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast 01:08 Garrett's Leadership and Expectations 02:44 Garrett's Career Performance and Consistency 04:27 Postseason Performance and Legacy 06:05 The Importance of Leadership in the Team 13:49 Dawand Jones and Left Tackle Position 24:12 Andrew Berry's Draft Picks and Their Future Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 18, 202536 min