Cults to Consciousness

Children in The Order, an incestuous polygamous break-off of the LDS church are tormented in every way possible for “the kingdom of God upon the Earth”. When they get the strength and courage to escape, they are met with total and complete exile. What no one talks about is how the mothers of these chiIdren, though they are also part of the problem, are punished and made to suffer as well. Joined by  @TheAmandaRaeGrant  who grew up in The Order and bravely escaped at 17, she shares her personal story and stories of those around her.  Click here to watch on YouTube In an effort to bring our community together and make lasting friendships, we are also launching a trip to Costa Rica hosted by C2C today! Only 9 spots remain after our early booking launch.  Watch how our last trip went: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB-VQZnJTcy/?igsh=MWJ0N2VvZnYxcmQ2Yw== Click here for the booking page and trip itinerary Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Liz Dieatrick grew up in an intensely fundamentalist Assemblies of God household, where she was told from childhood that God had uniquely called her to become a missionary. Raised by a pastor father and a deeply controlling, highly religious mother, she developed crippling religious scrupulosity, suppressed her own identity, and built her entire sense of purpose around sacrificial service to God. After studying missions in college, surviving life-threatening illnesses on overseas mission trips, and enduring the public scandal of her father's arrest in a sex sting, she interpreted every hardship as confirmation that she was faithfully following God's plan rather than questioning the system that shaped her.   Liz recounts her years with Live Dead, an Assemblies of God missions movement focused on reaching "unreached people groups" in restricted countries, the intensive security training for kidnappings and interrogations, pressure to deceive governments about missionary work, and an organizational culture that glorified self-sacrifice while minimizing personal autonomy. Looking back, Liz identifies numerous red flags she overlooked at the time, and reflects on her suicide attempt, trauma therapy, rebuilding her identity, and the possibility that this interview could permanently alter her relationship with her parents. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Liz! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@formerfundie/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kathleen Brooks was drawn into Chi Alpha, a campus ministry affiliated with the Assemblies of God, while searching for purpose, belonging, and spiritual direction in college. What initially appeared to be a vibrant Christian community slowly evolved into an intensely controlling environment under the influence of a charismatic leader, Mark, who inserted himself into nearly every aspect of members' lives. Kathleen describes years of manipulation through love-bombing, spiritual authority, isolation, control over dating and marriage, financial sacrifice, and relentless ministry expectations. Even after becoming a respected leader herself, she remained convinced she was serving God, unaware of how deeply the system had shaped her thinking and enabled harmful practices she unknowingly perpetuated while in leadership. After Mark's death, hidden misconduct, financial irregularities, and broader organizational failures began to surface, ultimately leading Kathleen and her husband to question everything they had devoted their lives to.  Click here to watch on YouTube Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sarah entered college with almost no religious background, hoping to find community and deepen her newfound Christian faith, only to be drawn into a highly controlling branch of Assemblies of God known as Chi Alpha at Murray State, a Christian Campus Ministry under longtime control of the leader Mark.  According to Sarah, the ministry gradually isolated students from family, academics, extracurricular activities, and outside friendships while convincing them that unquestioning obedience was God's will. Members were expected to attend daily prayers, multiple weekly meetings, mission trips, and church services, while every major life decision—from choosing a college major to dating, marriage, and even visiting family—required Mark's approval.  Things become a lot darker for Sarah when Mark finds out that she became pregnant from the assault. Click here to watch on Youtube  Link to the support group Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s not quite as obvious as Scientology, but Mormonism is a pay-to-play religion. This billion dollar company still requires a set amount from its members for them to qualify for the highest level of heaven. However, it gets worse for the offshoot incestuous, polygamous group the Kingston Clan that our guest  @TheAmandaRaeGrant  grew up in.  Join us LIVE today at 3p CST as we deep dive this topic. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 of this discussion with  @TheAmandaRaeGrant   Clergy Salary VS Tithing history with @analyzing.mormonism  Tithing history Official LDS church statement on tithing  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Former supermodel Hoyt Richards recounts how a seemingly ideal upbringing, success at Princeton University, and a promising modeling career left him unexpectedly vulnerable to manipulation by a mysterious man. As a teenager searching for purpose and identity, he was drawn into the orbit of the charismatic spiritual leader, Frederick von Mierers, who used flattery, exclusivity, and promises of enlightenment to gradually gain influence over him. What began as a search for meaning evolved into a decades-long cultic relationship in which Richards learned to distrust his own instincts, suppress critical thinking, and prioritize the group's teachings above family, friendships, and personal autonomy.  As Richards rose to become one of the world's most successful male models, the group's control deepened. He ultimately contributed an estimated $4–5 million to the organization, believing his success was proof that he was fulfilling a higher spiritual mission. Click here to watch on Youtube Find and support Hoyt! IG: https://www.instagram.com/hoytrichardsofficial https://www.Instagram.com/bringmethebeauties Website: https://www.hoytrichards.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When a 19 year old was sent to a war zone in a Russia for his mission, the deep need to remain “faithful” left him scarred when he finally made it home. Years later, his faith would unravel, causing massive shockwaves amongst his family.  Following up our enlightening interview with filmmaker Kyson Dana, today we go LIVE with him to further discuss life after his traumatic Mormon Mission. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Kyson Watch Kyson’s film: “The dark side of my Mormon Mission”   Support Kyson! Yt: https://www.youtube.com/@kysondana  IG: https://www.instagram.com/kysondana/  Website: secondnatureclub.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Raised in a deeply devout Mormon family in Idaho, Kyson Dana was taught from childhood that serving a mission was not a choice but a sacred duty and a defining milestone of a faithful life. When he was called to serve in southwest Russia, he believed he had been specially chosen by God to bring people the only path to salvation. Mission training reinforced the idea that success or failure depended entirely on a missionary’s faith and worthiness, leaving little room to question the church’s decisions or the dangers of the assignment.  Once in Russia, the reality was far different from what he had been prepared for.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Kyson’s film: “The dark side of my Mormon Mission”   Support Kyson! Yt: https://www.youtube.com/@kysondana  IG: https://www.instagram.com/kysondana/  Website: secondnatureclub.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this follow up interview with Mykelti Brown Padron, she reflects on growing up in the polygamist Mormon offshoot featured on the TLC series Sister Wives, describing a chaotic childhood where older children were often forced to raise younger siblings. Mykelti recounts how the constantly shifting parenting styles between her different mothers created anxiety and emotional instability, how she took on caregiving responsibilities as early as four years old, changing diapers, helping raise siblings, and how fear of law enforcement and CPS led the family to avoid hospitals and outside intervention.  Mykelti dives into the emotional consequences of the family’s disciplinary culture, particularly the rule against “tattle telling,” which she explains discouraged children from reporting harmful behavior and contributed to deep emotional wounds. She reveals that after disclosing a troubling experience from childhood, she was punished rather than protected, making it difficult to trust adults or seek help. Mykelti credits Robyn Brown, her father’s fourth wife, with eventually helping her feel safe enough to speak openly and receive support. As an adult and mother now herself, she reveals the similarities and differences in how she parents her chiIdren from her own chiIdhood.  Click here to watch on YouTube Follow and support Mykelti! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mykeltipadron1536  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/u85780932 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mykeltip/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sofia May describes how the abuse at the Tibetan Buddhist retreat center, Tara Mandala, escalated into full psychological control after the guru reframed her suffering as a form of “spiritual advancement.” After months of isolation, humiliation, sleep deprivation, impossible work demands, and emotional manipulation, the guru finally told her she had intentionally been “triggering” her to accelerate enlightenment. Instead of recognizing the abuse, Sofia (already deeply indoctrinated into the belief that gurus use pain to dissolve the ego) interpreted the cruelty as proof she was receiving special spiritual treatment.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 Website: sofiamaycomedy.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/sofiamaycomedy/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A survivor of severe childhood abuse, Sofia May recounts how growing up in a violently dysfunctional and narcissistic family left her desperate for love, safety, and validation. After years of trying to earn protection from her parents by suppressing her own needs and identity, she became drawn to Buddhism because its teachings on dissolving the ego and transcending suffer*ng mirrored the self-erasure she had already been conditioned into.  Sofia found temporary healing and belonging at the Tibetan Buddhist retreat center Tara Mandala, where the peaceful environment, supportive community, and emphasis on the “sacred feminine” felt like an escape from her traumatic home life. Over time, however, under the thumb of Lama Tsultrim Allione, the teachings and culture slowly encouraged deeper submission, guru worship, and the abandonment of personal boundaries. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 Website: sofiamaycomedy.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/sofiamaycomedy/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(CW: CSA, Drug A, Self Harm, Suicide Ideation) For a boy growing up in the 1970s, rural northern New Jersey was a year-round playground, filled with secret fishing holes, enchanted woods, and private trails to explore with friends. But this childhood idyll was snatched from Clark Fredericks by a man he regarded as a local hero: Dennis Pegg, the town’s Boy Scout leader, a law enforcement officer with the Sussex County Sheriff’s Department, and, as Fredericks would discover, a serial predator.  Through his teenage years and young adulthood, Fredericks kept silent about the horrific abuse he experienced turning to drugs, alcohol, gambling, and sex addiction to numb the memories. For decades, he remained tormented by shame, unable to share the secrets that were eating away at his psyche—until he violently confronted his abuser.  Following his timing in pr*son, Clark Fredericks and his story have inspired major reform of the statutes that once severely limited the rights of C.A. victims to sue their abusers. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Clark: Book “Scarred” Podcast “Free Like-Me” Website: https://www.freelike-me.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/clarkfredericks/?hl=en YT: https://www.youtube.com/@clarkfredericks3309 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is “Biblical patriarchy” stripping women of their autonomy?  We’re joined LIVE today with former “Fundamentalist Trad Wife” and author, Tia Levings, to discuss Pastor Dale Partridge’s dangerous, prescriptive opinions for young girls.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch the latest interview with Tia Watch our initial interview with Tia Pt 2 with Tia Find and support Tia! Order “I Belong to Me” (Book and website): https://tialevings.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/tialevingswriter/ Substack: https://tialevings.substack.com/ Linktree: http://linktr.ee/TiaLevings Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Tia Levings discusses her new book “I Belong to Me” as a continuation of her healing journey after escaping a deeply controlling Christian patriarchal environment.  Her first memoir, “A Well-Trained Wife”, focused on surviving abuse and indoctrination, while the second book explores what comes after leaving: trauma recovery, identity rebuilding, and deconstruction. Tia describes how religious extremism, purity culture, and patriarchal systems shaped her from childhood into adulthood, conditioning her to suppress autonomy, accept abuse, and remain emotionally dependent. She shares how these systems impacted her development, relationships, sexuality, and sense of self, ultimately culminating in a near murder-suicide escape from her marriage and a decade-long process of healing. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE stream with Tia Watch our initial interview with Tia Pt 2 with Tia Find and support Tia! Order “I Belong to Me” (Book and website): https://tialevings.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/tialevingswriter/ Substack: https://tialevings.substack.com/ Linktree: http://linktr.ee/TiaLevings Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

“Scientology speed runs” are a new internet trend and protest where creators, streamers, and activists storm Scientology centers to see how quickly they can get confronted, removed, banned, or “declared suppressive” by staff or security—often while filming for livestreams or social media.  Today we are joined LIVE with Claire Headley to discuss whether this is a good or bad thing for taking down the nefarious organization. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Claire Find and Support Claire! The Aftermath Foundation:  http://www.theaftermathfoundation.org/ To volunteer: [email protected] Website:  https://blownforgood.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@blownforgood Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blownforgood/ Twitter: @claireheadley Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

James Luceno is a former fifth degree ranked member of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), an initially welcoming, symbol-rich spiritual society rooted in Aleister Crowley’s philosophy of Thelema.  Over time, what began as an immersive and meaningful community experience became increasingly controlling and ethically troubling, ultimately leading James to view it as a harmful, cult-like system. One in which he had to step away from, getting him ostracized from the community he invested 11 years into.   Today James joins us LIVE to dive deeper into the initiation rituals themselves— what he’s personally seen and experienced the rituals do to people, why they feel profound and transformative, and how the logic of initiation gradually extends beyond the rituals themselves to shape how members interpret the dysfunction and harm they experience in the Order.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch James’ initial interview here Follow and support James! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Entelecheia Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/turningofthesky Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/turningsky/ X: https://x.com/LapisMercurii Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Since 2021, a case has been open against the Jehovah’s Witness Religion and a Norwegian state, claiming their practice of shunning is considered a violation of chiId rights. That case has been closed and left us all furious. Learn more as we are joined by Alissa Watson (@alissasawake) to discuss what this chilling ruling really means. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Alissa on Social: YouTube: @athomewithalissa  IG: @alissasawake  TikTok: @alissasawake  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Former FLDS member Jude Bateman recounts her upbringing in the polygamist FLDS community of Colorado City and the terrifying realities of life under Warren Jeffs’ increasingly extreme rule. She grew up in a household with two mothers and 17 children, where obedience and fear governed daily life as new rules and expectations became more radicalized. Jude explains how her brother, Sam Bateman — later infamous for leading his own sect — played a role in enforcing loyalty to the church, even taking her to “turn herself in” before Warren Jeffs at age 15. She shares the trauma of being sent to Bountiful, Canada under the guise of a vacation, only to discover she was being groomed for an arranged marriage. The conversation then shifts into a deeply personal examination of Sam Bateman’s transformation from a rebellious, thrill-seeking teenager into a dangerous cult leader.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Jude and Cherish Families:https://www.cherishfamilies.org/ Watch part 1 of our initial interview with Jude here Watch part 2 here Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

​ @JadenJeffs , Son of Warren Jeffs—the current imprisoned prophet of the FLDS—speaks out about Sam Bateman, another “False Prophet” who is also in prison for his crimes against children. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Jaden on Social Media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JadenJeffs IG: https://www.instagram.com/jadenjjeffs100/ Watch our initial interview with Jaden watch Jaden's last video with his younger sister, Sienna Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Did you know that all “righteous” members of the LDS (Mormon) church get a blessing that tells their future directly from God? It’s a coming of age ritual that requires one to fast in preparation for and no one is allowed to read it except for your parents and eventual spouse. Even though Taylor Frankie Paul is stepping away from the LDS church, people are shocked that she chose to post portions of her blessing on social media.  @alyssadgrenfell  gives us the full scoop! Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Alyssa's video for a deeper dive Find Alyssa on social media! YT: www.youtube.com/@alyssadgrenfell/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/alyssadgrenfell TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@alyssadgrenfell Thumbnail Photo of Alyssa provided by Ilana Panich-Linsman website Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Cult survivor, military veteran, and bestselling author of Uncultured & The Cutting of America, Daniella Mestyanek Young further dives into the investigation of invisible systems of control shaping our lives. Raised in the notorious s*x cult the ChiIdren of God, she escaped to America as a teenager—only to find herself inside another rigid institution: the U.S. Army. Years later, as a Harvard-trained expert in organizational psychology, she began asking an important question:  What if we’re all in cults? Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Daniella! Website & book “The Culting of America”: https://knittingcultlady.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/daniellamyoung_/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@knittingcultladycaptain Yt: https://www.youtube.com/@KnittingCultLady Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Layla recounts the harsh reality of entering plural marriage at 17 as Warren Jeffs’ 23rd wife, describing immediate emotional overwhelm, humiliation, and strict expectations of obedience. Instead of the supportive sisterhood she had been groomed to expect, she encountered competition, hierarchy shifts, and public shaming. Jeffs exerted control through constant criticism, especially about her body and “worthiness” to have chiIdren. Over time, isolation deepened as she was cut off from family, placed into hiding, and subjected to extreme dietary restrictions and over-exercising that damaged her health and even basic human needs were disregarded. See her reaction to Sam Bateman after watching “Trust Me: The False Prophet”.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Layla’s interview Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister Find and Support Layla! TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@layla_ex_ofwarrenjeffs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LaylaMatson Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Layla Matson was born into a deeply entrenched, multi-generational polygamist FLDS family with direct ties to church leadership. From a young age, her life was shaped by strict religious expectations, economic hardship, and normalized control, ranging from modesty rules and limited education to chiId labor and rigid gender roles. Sacrifice was emphasized, while serious issues like infant de*ths, lack of medical care, and emotional suppression were widespread but rarely questioned.  Layla’s  her story took a dark turn at 17 years old when her father “turned her in” to Warren Jeffs, leading to her forced marriage within 24 hours to the “prophet”. She reflects on the grooming process that began in her early teens, illustrating how young women were coerced into marriages and stripped of autonomy under the guise of faith. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 of Layla's interview Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister Find and Support Layla! TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@layla_ex_ofwarrenjeffs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LaylaMatson Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mykelti Brown & her husband Tony Padron reflect on the behind the scenes of her upbringing in the polygamist family from TLC’s Sister Wives TV show. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Mykelti's initial interview here Follow and support Mykelti & Tony! Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/u85780932 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mykeltip/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mykelti Brown Padron reflects on her upbringing in the polygamist family from TLC’s Sister Wives TV show, describing both the perceived benefits and deep challenges of that lifestyle. For her growing up, polygamy felt normal and even appealing due to the built-in community, multiple parental figures, and constant companionship, but also reveals significant downsides including emotional neglect, lack of individual attention, inconsistent parenting, and poverty. She recounts a strained relationship with her father due to his divided time among many children and wives, as well as negative experiences with certain family dynamics, including fear of one mother figure in particular. While she still sees some appeal in the idea of plural family structure—likely shaped by early conditioning—she ultimately acknowledges that religious polygamy often suppresses women’s autonomy and creates imbalance, leaving her conflicted between nostalgic positives and the harsher realities she later recognized. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE stream with Mykelti & husband Tony Follow and support Mykelti! Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/u85780932 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mykeltip/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

James Luceno is a former fifth degree ranked member of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), an initially welcoming, symbol-rich spiritual society rooted in Aleister Crowley’s philosophy of Thelema.  According to James, it gradually reveals a hierarchical, secretive structure emphasizing obedience, loyalty, and authority through rituals and initiations, while presenting ideals like personal freedom and enlightenment, yet in practice, the organization fosters enmeshment, suppresses criticism, and protects high-ranking members accused of misconduct—including serious SA allegations—while discouraging accountability.  Over time, what begins as an immersive and meaningful community experience becomes increasingly controlling and ethically troubling, ultimately leading James to view it as a h*rmful, cult-like system. One in which he had to step away from, getting him ostracized from the community he invested 11 years into. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up live stream with James Follow and support James! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Entelecheia Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/turningofthesky Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/turningsky/ X: https://x.com/LapisMercurii Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Following up our recent interview​  @lovina_zook   about Amish pregnancies, today we are going LIVE with her to further discuss what it was like being parented in the strictest Amish settlement— the Swartzentruber Amish— versus how she now plans to parent outside of it. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Lovina Watch our follow up LIVE with Lovina answering your questions Our latest interview with Lovina Find Lovina on social media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@lovina_zook/videos IG: https://www.instagram.com/lovina_zook/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@lovina_zook Website: https://socialsbylovina.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lovina Zook grew up in a strict Amish community where sex education was virtually nonexistent and anything related to the body, sex, or pregnancy was treated as taboo and often shameful. ChiIdren were not taught basic anatomy or reproduction, forcing her to piece together understanding through secretly reading books, accidental discoveries, and observation, often leading to confusion and misinformation well into her teens and even adulthood. Pregnancy, while expected and valued in terms of having chiIdren, was paradoxically hidden and associated with embarrassment, reinforcing a culture of silence and modesty. After leaving the Amish at 18, Lovina struggled initially but eventually found success on social media by embracing her background, and she now reflects on how her upbringing shaped her views on pregnancy, autonomy, and education. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our latest LIVE with Lovina furthering this discussion Watch our initial interview with Lovina Watch our follow up LIVE with Lovina answering your questions Find Lovina on social media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@lovina_zook/videos IG: https://www.instagram.com/lovina_zook/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@lovina_zook Website: https://socialsbylovina.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Meg was raised in the Jehovah’s Witnesses and grew up under intense pressure, surveillance, and emotional control.  Her upbringing lead to isolation, fear, and a lack of understanding around autonomy and consent.  After experiencing SA in young adulthood, she blamed herself due to purity-based teachings and remained in the relationship out of guilt before ultimately confessing to church elders, where she endured invasive and degrading questioning.  She was then disfellowshipped, resulting in total social shunning by her community and much of her family, which deepened her shame, loneliness, and self-destructive coping behaviors. Even after being cut off, during a traumatizing miscarriage, she refused a blood transfusion out of devotion to the Jehovah’s Witness blood doctrine that nearly took her life.though she eventually found support outside the group and began rebuilding her sense of identity and independence. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Meg IG @megreadsandreads  Relentless Shadows: A Book of Poetry Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sarah & Nippy, creators of the podcast “A Little Bit Culty” and former NXIVM members, reveal how people are drawn into high-control groups and how manipulation operates beneath the surface. What started as an empowering, goal-driven self-improvement program in NXIVM gradually revealed itself as a calculated system of manipulation, where trust, financial commitment, and personal vulnerabilities were leveraged to override instincts and deepen involvement. Through subtle psychological pressure, social proof, and a sense of higher purpose, members are often justified red flags along the way—while leader Keith Raniere and those around him expertly explo*ted emotional wounds and desires for validation. What most people didn’t know, was that self-proclaimed-celibate Keith, had a secret harem of women and a growing, devious, “master/slave” program called DOS that Sarah’s best friend recruited her into. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Sarah & Nippy! Their new book: “A Little Bit Culty: Navigating Cults, Control and Coercion” Sarah’s Memoir: “Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, The Cult that Bound My Life”  Instagram: @sarahedmondson  @anthonyames11  @alittlebitculty  Linktree: https://linktr.ee/alittlebitculty Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The group's 75 year old ban on blood transfusions is changing. Sort of. It's a big deal, and it isn't. Joined by Jake at  @altworldly   to give us the full details! Click here to watch on YouTube The JW dot org video Original leak by larchwood jwfacts breakdown of blood policy evolution Find and support Jake on YouTube:  @altworldly   Other video collaborations: Ex-Mormon & Ex-Jehovah’s Witness React to LEAKED Upcoming Convention Tapes (ft. ‪@altworldly‬) Ex-Mormon and Ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare CULTure (ft.  @altworldly  ) Ex- Mormon and Ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare Doctrine (ft @altworldly) Fear of End Times: Ex-Jehovah's Witness Confessions ft. @altworldly An ex-Mormon and ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare Notes (w/ @CultstoConsciousness ) Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Désirée Ohrbeck grew up in Denmark in the rigid control of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.  She survived CSA from her stepfather, and when she sought help from religious leaders, she was dismissed, blamed, and told to retract her statement to the police. She explains how she went from a house where books were banned, to becoming a professor. However, deconstruction is incredibly lonely and challenging. Lingering effects of the trauma impact her daily life.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Désirée here Find and support Désirée! Book: The Scandinavian War Bride IG: https://www.instagram.com/desireeohrbeck/ Website: https://www.desireeohrbeck.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Désirée Ohrbeck grew up in Denmark in an extremely chaotic and traumatic home environment that later transitioned into the rigid control of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Her early childhood was marked by instability—an absent father, a violent stepfather, poverty, neglect, and exposure to unsafe situations. When her mother joined Jehovah’s Witnesses, the family life shifted from chaos to extreme control. As Desiree grew older, the environment became increasingly harmful. She survived CSA from her stepfather, and when she sought help from religious leaders, she was dismissed, blamed, and told to retract her statement to the police. She explains how she went from a house where books were banned, to becoming a professor.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Désirée  Find and support Désirée! Book: The Scandinavian War Bride IG: https://www.instagram.com/desireeohrbeck/ Website: https://www.desireeohrbeck.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Briell Decker is the former 65th plural wife of Warren Jeffs. She married Jeffs at 18 while he was already a fugitive and “prophet,” and quickly realized how he exerted control through fear, punishment, and doctrine, particularly around arranged and underage marriages. Briell witnessed disturbing religious practices, resisting participation, and ultimately escaped after years of ab*se and threats of being “blood atoned”. Having experienced being a polygamous wife to the prophet of the FLDS, we asked her thoughts on Sam Bateman, the self proclaimed NEW prophet of the FLDS. After watching Trust Me: The False Prophet, she explains why Sam is NOT the same as Warren. A new and interesting perspective!  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of our full interview with Briell Watch pt 2 of our full interview with Briell Find and support Briell! Websites: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/ https://www.brielldecker.com/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/briell.decker.blanchart IG: https://www.instagram.com/brielldecker/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. Christine Marie recounts how her deep religious devotion and a seemingly prophetic dream led her into a manipulative relationship with a man who falsely claimed to be a Prophet. Using her beliefs against her, he gradually groomed and controlled her—convincing her she was chosen to be his spiritual wife, pressuring her into polygamy, isolating her from others, and exploiting her emotionally, financially, and physically. Torn between fear of losing her soul and obedience to someone she believed was a prophet, the walls came crashing down when another con man revealed their master plan to her. Christine describes the aftermath as deeply traumatic, marked by shame, fear, and a struggle to rebuild her identity. Once she met and married Tolga, a creative and successful producer who provided the safety and acceptance she needed, she rebuilt her identity and became passionate about helping those trapped in situations similar to hers. This lead them to Short Creek, initial headquarters for the polygamous group the FLDS, where she ended up entangled with another “False Prophet” and filmed everything in hopes of being able to take him down and save the women and girls trapped by him.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our full interview with Nomz Find and Support Christine! Website: http://christinemarie.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.christinemarie/ https://voicesfordignity.org/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As seen in the hit Netflix docuseries, “Trust Me: The False Prophet”, Nomz was raised inside the FLDS, a highly controlled Mormon polygamist sect, where her father was removed by leadership and her family was fractured and reassigned to different caretakers. As she reached her teens, she began to question her environment and briefly developed a sense of independence, but this was quickly overtaken when she became targeted by Sam Bateman, a breakaway leader who claimed prophetic authority. She describes being coerced into a forced spiritual marriage through manipulation, threats against her family, and intense psychological pressure, including the use of other wives and even children to enforce compliance. Over time, she was systematically broken down, isolated from others, and controlled through fear, secrecy, and indoctrination, eventually entering a state of emotional numbness and survival compliance. She now speaks out publicly to raise awareness and prevent others from experiencing similar ab*se, using her story as both a warning and an act of advocacy. Click to watch on YouTube Watch our full interview with Dr. Christine Marie Follow and support Nomz! IG: @nomzia_b   TT: @nomzia_b  FB: https://www.facebook.com/NomziBistline Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Learn about the unaired details and behind the scenes information from @TheAmandaRaeGrant who personally knows the documentary participants and who also comes from a separate fundamentalist polygamous Mormon sect called The Order. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 of this discussion here Watch our interview with Nomz Watch our interview with Dr. Christine Marie Find and support Amanda! YouTube: @TheAmandaRaeGrant IG: @amandaraegrant If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.org Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. Sara Glass knew she kept falling in love with women, but that didn’t matter. She knew her place as an Ultra Orthodox woman. She was placed into an arranged marriage to a man shortly after graduating high school and she painfully left her girlfriend behind. Sara vulnerably shares in great detail about what it was like navigating sex as a Hasidic woman who is also gay and how the trauma around intimacy has followed her even years after leaving.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Sara here Watch the follow up LIVE stream Find & Support Sara! Website: https://www.drsaraglass.com Book: “Kissing Girls on Shabbat”  IG: @drsaraglass  LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/drsaraglass Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We celebrate our 300th episode with a panel of 4 incredible women bravely coming forward to share their thoughts and experiences growing up in various strict Orthodox communities. They compare notes while illustrating similarities and differences between the sects and how they left to find a better, more autonomous life for themselves, and in some cases, for their children as well. Deep dives can be found on each of the women below in their own full length episodes. Listen with caution, this episode is as heavy as it is inspirational and incredible. Click here to watch on YouTube Resource for people who need help leaving Orthodox Jewish communities Footsteps https://www.footstepsorg.org/ Rights and Religion Forum  https://rarforum.org/ Chavie Weisberger Watch our initial interview with Chavie Find and support Chavie! Website: https://www.chavieweisberger.com/ https://www.footstepsorg.org/ https://bac.bard.edu/ Beatrice Weber Watch our initial interview with Beatrice Watch pt 2 here Find and support Beatrice! Substack: https://beatriceweber.substack.com  Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bweber Website: https://beatriceweber.com/about/ Tee Murrin Watch our initial interview with Tee Watch pt 2 Find and support Tee! IG: https://www.instagram.com/tzivyateemurrin/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/tzivya.murrin.medicaid.planner https://www.facebook.com/SensibleSeniorPlanning Rachel Watch our initial interview with Rachel Watch our follow up live stream with Rachel Find and support Rachel! IG: @permissiontobeyourself  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rachel was raised in Israel by Canadian parents who converted to strict Orthodox Judaism as adults. Girls were taught from a very young age that their primary purpose was to become wives and mothers, and the culture emphasized conformity, modesty, and obedience. At 18, after only a few weeks of dating, she became engaged to a man who was in training to become a Rabbi. Not only did she deal with typical hardships that come with that role, but she would become a top recruiter for a separate organization that she now sees as harmful.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Rachel Watch our recent panel with 4 Former Ultra Orthodox women Find and support Rachel! IG: @permissiontobeyourself  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rachel was raised in Israel by Canadian parents who converted to strict Orthodox Judaism as adults. Girls were taught from a very young age that their primary purpose was to become wives and mothers, and the culture emphasized conformity, modesty, and obedience. Rachel explains how these systems created strong psychological pressure, particularly around purity culture, body image, and social behavior, while also framing outsiders and even other Jewish groups as morally inferior. At 18, after only a few weeks of dating, she became engaged to a man who fit the religious and cultural criteria expected of her, despite lingering doubts and emotional attachment to someone else. Click to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up live stream with Rachel Watch our recent panel with 4 Former Ultra Orthodox women Find and support Rachel! IG: @permissiontobeyourself  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Shalom’s childhood and education were dominated by intense religious indoctrination. He attended a strict ultra-Orthodox school 365 days a year, where boys studied religious texts from early morning until late at night, with little secular education and frequent physical punishment from teachers. The rigid environment, lack of emotional support, and strict moral expectations led to anxiety, obsessive religious guilt, and deep internal conflict, particularly around sexuality and personal identity. The community’s teachings pushed him toward early marriage as a supposed solution to normal sexual urges and loneliness. He then became a Rabbi and eventually left it all behind. We discuss all the ways rigid patriarchy harms the men too and the consequences of strict gender roles void of choice.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Shalom Watch our recent panel with 4 Former Ultra Orthodox women Find and support Shalom! Shalom’s podcast, Beyond Belief: Tales of Religious Exodus Instagram: @shalomshore Personal website: shalomshore.com Religion site: freidomfighter.com Hypnosis site: navyahypnosis.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Shalom Shore grew up in a strict ultra-Orthodox Jewish environment in Jerusalem connected to the organization Aish HaTorah, dedicated to its mission of bringing secular Jews back to strict religious observance. As the oldest of nine children, Shalom grew up in a household that appeared ideal, but was marked by emotional neglect, financial stress, and a constant focus on religious outreach. Shalom’s childhood and education were dominated by intense religious indoctrination. He attended a strict ultra-Orthodox school 365 days a year, where boys studied religious texts from early morning until late at night, with little secular education and frequent physical punishment from teachers. The rigid environment, lack of emotional support, and strict moral expectations led to anxiety, obsessive religious guilt, and deep internal conflict, particularly around sexuality and personal identity. The community’s teachings pushed him toward early marriage as a supposed solution to normal sexual urges and loneliness. He then became a Rabbi and eventually left it all behind.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Shalom Watch our recent panel with 4 Former Ultra Orthodox women Find and support Shalom! Shalom’s podcast, Beyond Belief: Tales of Religious Exodus Instagram: @shalomshore Personal website: shalomshore.com Religion site: freidomfighter.com Hypnosis site: navyahypnosis.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Growing up under the sway of a Brooklyn housewife turned guru, Priya Hutner is drawn into a world shaped by bizarre rituals, spiritual promises, and oppressive beliefs. What begins as a quest for enlightenment unravels into a stifling reality as the boundaries between spiritual devotion and control blur. Members were expected to obey the guru completely. Personal decisions—including marriage, celibacy, parenting, and even children’s names—were influenced or dictated by her and private matters were often publicly exposed as a form of “ego destruction.” Despite the manipulation, the community also performed genuine service, such as caring for AIDS patients, the homeless, and people living in poverty. This mix of compassion and control created confusion and loyalty among followers. In her late twenties, Priya was unexpectedly appointed CEO of the ashram, responsible for running the nonprofit organization, managing finances, and coordinating retreats and visitors. Despite the enormous responsibility, the community operated under vows of poverty—Priya herself earned only about $200 a month while overseeing the organization. Meanwhile, the guru remained the ultimate authority over money, decisions, and disputes within the group. Priya deeply believed she was helping humanity and guiding people spiritually, reinforcing her devotion to the guru. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Priya! Priya’s Book: Chasing Nirvana: A Seeker’s Story of Love, Loss and Liberation  Website: priyahutner.com IG: @priyahutner  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nicole Daedone, founder and former CEO of OneTaste, was JUST sentenced to 9 years in federal prison following a conviction for forced labor conspiracy. She was found guilty of leading a scheme that subjected members to economic, sexual, emotional, and psychological abuse, along with indoctrination and surveillance.  Today we are joined LIVE with Ellen Huet, the investigative journalist for Bloomberg News who wrote the viral article that exposed the dark sides of OneTaste and Daedone, and is author of “EMPIRE OF ORGASM: Sex, Power, and the Downfall of a Wellness Cult” on the rise and fall of OneTaste, to further discuss the case. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Ellen! Ellen’s Book “Empire of Orgasm: Sex, Power, and the Downfall of a Wellness Cult” https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374604196/empireoforgasm/ Website: https://www.ellenhuet.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/ehuet/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

BREAKING:  Former reality TV TLC's "19 Kids and Counting" star Joseph Duggar has pleaded "Not Guilty" to his charges in Florida, almost five years after his brother Josh, who also starred in the TLC show, was convicted of similar charges. Joining us is Eric from  @PreacherBoys   Podcast to give us the full follow up scoop. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial LIVE when the news first broke Find and support Eric! Website: https://www.preacherboyspodcast.com/ YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoys FB: https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/ IG: @preacherboysdoc  TikTok: @preacherboyspod  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join us LIVE as we go in depth with former guest and current lawyer Kolby Reddish to further discuss the case involving CSA claims, and the potential legal outcome, of Judge Brent Basden in Washington’s Clallam County under investigation following serious allegations of LDS bias and misconduct in family court cases. Click here to watch on YouTube Formal Complaint Follow Kolby’s new Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LetsDisagreeShow Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Warren Jeffs, the polygamous prophet of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, who is currently in prison, has been “leading” his saints in questionable directions. Including not allowing married couples to be intimate and not allowing anyone to marry. We now have credible intel that the FLDS is preparing to start marriages again. This comes with reports of FLDS girls who disappear from their “apostate” parents’ homes immediately after their 18th birthday and cutting off all contact, as they are moved to different locations run by the cult. More information by Sam & Melissa from @GrowingUpinPolygamy   Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Sam and Melissa! YouTube:  @GrowingUpinPolygamy   Website: https://www.growingupinpolygamy.com/ Instagram: @growing_up_in_polygamy Email: [email protected] Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In 2002, 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped at knifepoint from her bedroom in Salt Lake City by Brian David Mitchell and his accomplice, Wanda Barzee. She was held captive for nine months, survived repeated SA, and was forced to live in camps across Utah while being disguised in public. In 2003, she was finally recognized by alert bystanders and rescued, leading to the arrest and conviction of her captors. Today, Elizabeth Smart is a survivor, author, and chiId safety activist. She founded the Elizabeth Smart Foundation, which focuses on preventing chiId abuse, supporting victims, and promoting recovery. She also works as a public speaker, advocates for legislation to protect children, appears in media to raise awareness, and has written books including her most recent “Detours”. She is married, has children, and continues to be a prominent voice for survivor empowerment and child safety. Click here to watch on YouTube Elizabeth’s book: Detours Find Elizabeth on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/elizabeth_smart_official Website: https://www.elizabethsmart.com/  Foundation:  elizabethsmartfoundation.org Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mormonism has been a hot topic in pop culture the past couple years and not necessarily in a good way. Following the fame of the hit tv show “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives”, the self proclaimed creator of #momtok , center of the swinging drama and “queen bee” of the group, Taylor Frankie Paul was awarded the coveted role of “Bachelorette”. The entire season was filmed and set to premiere tomorrow March 21st, but on Thursday March 19th, the show was pulled by ABC executives following video evidence of a violent encounter between Taylor and her ex Dakota. Join Shelise and @TheAmandaRaeGrant who give details about the situation and their opinions on it.  Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Amanda Rae! YouTube:  @TheAmandaRaeGrant       IG: @amandaraegrant Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

BREAKING: Former reality TV TLC's "19 Kids and Counting" star Joseph Duggar is facing a CSA charge in Florida, almost five years after his brother Josh, who also starred in the TLC show, was convicted of downloading CSA images. Joining us is Eric from @PreacherBoys Podcast to give us the full scoop.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our original interview with Eric here Find and support Eric! Website: https://www.preacherboyspodcast.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoys FB: https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/ IG: @preacherboysdoc  TikTok: @preacherboyspod  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Escaping a cult and finding peace on the outside is one thing, but what happens when you feel obligated or even required to go back into the same environment that harmed you for so long? Amanda Rae was born and raised in The Order, a polygamous offshoot of Mormonism known for its incestuous marriages. Barely an adult, she escaped and made it her mission to expose the Order while helping other members find their way out. However, a death in the family led her back into the belly of the beast, where she had been shunned and cut off, forced to face the people and places that left physical and emotional scars.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Amanda: YouTube: @TheAmandaRaeGrant      IG: @amandaraegrant Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A raw and powerful coming-out story from the beloved American Idol finalist traces David Archuleta’s journey from closeted Mormon teen to global pop star to openly queer man, revealing the hidden pressures of fame, the weight of religious expectations, and the courage it takes to live authentically. At just seventeen, David Archuleta rose to national fame as the runner-up on American Idol season seven, captivating millions with his angelic voice. Behind the scenes, however, he was struggling with a truth he feared would destroy everything: he was attracted to men—and a devout member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As David matured, he struggled with obsessive religious perfectionism, shame around sexuality, and deep internal conflict about being gay within the LDS Church. His missionary experience and therapy helped him recognize patterns of emotional abuse and unhealthy conditioning. Despite direct conversations with top church leaders, he felt they lacked understanding of LGBTQ issues and often avoided confronting the harm caused by church policies.  David recounts what it was like growing up with a domineering father who controlled every aspect of his career and reveals the emotional abuse and inner turmoil that he says plagued his childhood. Ultimately, David reached a breaking point and experienced a powerful moment of self-acceptance, allowing him to embrace his identity, step away from rigid beliefs, and redefine spirituality on his own terms. His story highlights themes of autonomy, healing, faith, mental health, and the courage to live authentically. Click here to watch on YouTube David’s book “Devout: Losing My Faith to Find Myself” Find David on Social media! FB: https://www.facebook.com/davidarchuleta IG: https://www.instagram.com/davidarchie/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Born into the secretive and highly controlled world of the Twelve Tribes, Meleah never knew life outside the group. From her earliest memories, every part of her existence was regulated—what she wore, what she thought, how she spoke, and even how she played. Childhood was not a time for imagination or freedom. It was training. In this isolated communal society, children were raised to obey instantly and without question. Play was replaced with productivity. Even family bonds were fragile, as parents could be sent away at any moment, leaving children to be raised and disciplined by strangers within the community. As Meleah grew older, she began to see the cracks in the system. She realized that the utopia she had been promised was built on fear, manipulation, and silence. At just 17, she made the terrifying decision to escape. But freedom came with its own challenges. Thrust suddenly into the modern world, she faced overwhelming culture shock, loneliness, and the painful process of rebuilding her identity from nothing. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our interview with Meleah's sister, Rebecca Find Meleah on social media! The Sister Act Podcast website (submit questions or episode request): https://thesisteractpodcast.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/theunscripther/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSisterAct25 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

At 15 years old, Rebecca was a highly devout member of the Twelve Tribes— an isolated cult compound that had strict gender roles, extreme corporal pun*shment and high religious expectations. She was hand- selected to marry one of the leader’s sons, in an attempt to shackle him to the group. After struggling with fertility for a few years (which came with its own shaming and blaming), she got pregnant and things were looking better. However, one day her husband tried to escape with a 17 yr old teen girl and once caught, Rebecca was forbidden to see him or even speak to him. She was taken to Georgia where she was isolated during her pregnancy and forced to give birth on a sailboat in the middle of summer. It would take months before she was allowed to reconnect with her husband again.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Rebecca's interview Watch our interview with Rebecca's sister, Meleah Find Rebecca on social media! The Sister Act Podcast website (submit questions or episode request): https://thesisteractpodcast.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/rebecca_thesisteractpodcast FB: https://www.facebook.com/people/Rebecca-Nichols TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@thesisteractpodcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSisterAct25 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Drawn to the Twelve Tribes in the 1970s by its promise of spiritual purity, communal support, and moral family values, Rebecca’s parents became deeply embedded in a system that demanded complete obedience and surrender of autonomy. Rebecca was one of the oldest of the second generation in the cult, which meant a lot of experimentation was done to determine the fate of other children. At 15 years old—a highly devout member— she was chosen to marry one of the leader’s sons, to attempt to shackle him  to the group. Her wedding included group reenactments complete with demons, running from the woods, a crowning ceremony and unwavering submission as an “unworthy woman”. She thought she could escape her abusive and highly controlled childhood with daily corporal punishment by getting married. The reality was far worse.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 of Rebecca's interview Watch our interview with Rebecca's sister, Meleah Find Rebecca on social media! The Sister Act Podcast website (submit questions or episode request): https://thesisteractpodcast.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/rebecca_thesisteractpodcast FB: https://www.facebook.com/people/Rebecca-Nichols TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@thesisteractpodcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSisterAct25 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Elise Delamare recounts her experience growing up and serving in the Assemblies of God, describing a progression from sincere spiritual calling into a high-control, ab*sive ministry environment. Systemic issues such as authoritarian leadership, intense emotional and physical “boot camp” training, fear-based obedience, boundary violations, s*xual misconduct mishandled by leadership, and psychological manipulation was framed as spiritual discipline. Over time, these practices led to trauma, burnout, and loss of personal autonomy. The culture and leadership structures allowed ab*se to persist unchecked, ultimately prompting her to leave and advocate for awareness, accountability, and healing for others with similar experiences.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Elise on social media! TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@truth.in.the.sanctuary  IG: https://www.instagram.com/truth.in.the.sanctuary/   Share your AG story: https://aganonymous.com/  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

At 15, Maria’s parents willingly gave her to Russian cult leader Sergey who would marry her off to a man she despised. At 16 she was alone, hidden in a swampy woodland at the commune without electricity or running water, struggling to survive and raise her newborn in a tent during winter. She details everything she had to do to get food and water against all odds.   Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Maria Find Maria on Social Media! Substack:  https://myworldprism.substack.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/myworld_prism Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It started when Maria’s mother was kidnapped and taken to Canada before somehow convincing her parents to give marital consent. Maria would end up being one of 11 children who were moved over and over from different Amish and Mennonite settlements. Maria’s father was a wannabe cult leader and stirred up trouble wherever he went. Homemade preaching tapes sent out to the world would attract predators into Maria’s home. One of them being a Russian man named Sergey, a cult leader himself. At 15, Maria’s parents willingly gave her to Sergey to marry off to another man. At 16 she was alone, hidden in a swampy woodland without electricity or running water, struggling to survive with a newborn.   Click here to watch on Youtube Watch our follow up LIVE with Maria Find Maria on Social Media! Substack:  https://myworldprism.substack.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/myworld_prism Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jaden Jeffs was born into the polygamous offshoot of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints where his father would become the Prophet. Jaden takes us inside the mind of his father, Warren Jeffs, and gives us insight into his increasingly twisted “revelations” from prison. Watch our initial interview where Jaden talks about his childhood and early adult years following orders from his father that would eventually push him over the edge.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Jaden Find Jaden on Social Media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JadenJeffs IG: https://www.instagram.com/jadenjjeffs100/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jaden Jeffs was born into the polygamous offshoot of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints where his father would become the Prophet. Drastic changes would ensue, splitting up families, demanding perfection and keeping the children working instead of playing. Jaden takes us inside the mind of his father, Warren Jeffs, and gives us insight into his increasingly twisted “revelations” from prison. His life would be toyed with for over a decade being sent from place to place due to his supposed righteousness until Jaden finally said enough is enough.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Jaden Find Jaden on Social Media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JadenJeffs IG: https://www.instagram.com/jadenjjeffs100/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

People can already guess that there are struggles that come with being a plural wife, however most don't know the dangers the lesser favorite wives and their children have to endure. We go into very real situations from The Order (the polygamist Mormon sect in Utah) with someone who escaped the cult.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Pt 2 on Amanda's channel Find Amanda: YouTube:  @TheAmandaRaeGrant          IG: @amandaraegrant Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Olivia Marie Plath was on 7 seasons of TLC’s Welcome to Plathville. Today she will answer your questions and open up about her life before, during and after the show.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Olivia Follow Olivia on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/oliviamarieplath/ Website: OliviaMariePlath.com  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You may know Olivia Marie Plath from TLC’s Welcome to Plathville, but do you know her story before being on the show? Olivia describes what her fundamentalist life was like in a home where her father sexualized her and her sisters, corporal punishment wasn’t optional and her mother, despite severe health issues that could take her life, was forced to continue getting pregnant. Her sincere hope to be saved led her down a path to courtship with Ethan where she would marry into an even more strict and controlling environment. Boundaries didn’t exist to the Plath family and things would progressively get worse and worse throughout their marriage. She finally put an end to it all and now she is vocal about things that weren’t allowed to be shown on the show.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Olivia Follow Olivia on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/oliviamarieplath/ Website: OliviaMariePlath.com  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Raised in a conservative, fundamentalist Christian environment, Monte Mader’s home life was filled with being forced to memorize Bible verses or risk extreme corporal punishment. A scholar of the Bible, she later publicly deconstructed those beliefs and now focuses on challenging dogma and exploring cultural and historical topics.  Today we discuss some of the main talking points fundamentalist’s use to harm and oppress others and dispute them using the Bible itself.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Monte Mader on social media! IG:  https://www.instagram.com/montemader/ Website: https://montemader.com/ https://linktr.ee/MonteMader Watch our initial interview with Monte Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Raised in a conservative, fundamentalist Christian environment, Monte Mader later publicly deconstructed those beliefs and now focuses on challenging dogma and exploring cultural and historical topics. Her home life was filled with being forced to memorize Bible verses or risk extreme corporal punishment. Her mom left the family of 6 children early in Monte’s childhood and was replaced by a sadistic stepmother who kept her and her brother in the basement for 2 years along with other harsh punishments.  Even though Monte was being bred to be a housewife with strict gender roles, once her father recognized her off-the-charts intelligence, he quickly switched gears and wanted her to become a Supreme Court Justice to enact and even overturn policy for the agenda of extreme fundamentalist ideology. After a tumultuous engagement that ended in betrayal and disaster, Monte continued to deconstruct when she realized she had been lied to about what the Bible actually says from a Scholastic POV. Now she uses her platform with millions of followers to debate against those who try to use the Bible’s words to harm and oppress others.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Monte Mader on social media! IG:  https://www.instagram.com/montemader/ Website: https://montemader.com/ https://linktr.ee/MonteMader Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian Recker is a former Evangelical Pastor who spent about eight years in ministry before stepping away from traditional evangelicalism. He grew up as the son of a Baptist preacher and attended the fundamentalist Bob Jones University. Now, he speaks up about a love-centered relationship with God as interpreted by the Bible and shares why it’s common for people to fall into Authoritarian based control when they are already in a fear-based or high control religion.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Brian here Brian’s Book:  “Hell Bent: How the Fear of Hell Holds Christians Back from a Spirituality of Love” Follow Brian on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/berecker/ Substack: https://brianrecker.substack.com/ Brian’s link tree: https://linktr.ee/berecker Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian Recker is a former Evangelical Pastor who spent about eight years in ministry before stepping away from traditional evangelicalism. He grew up as the son of a Baptist preacher and attended the fundamentalist Bob Jones University. Instead of pastoring a local church in the traditional sense, Brian now speaks, writes, and teaches about a more inclusive, love-centered Christian spirituality. By removing pun*shment from Christianity’s center, Brian boldly reimagines the core questions of faith, such as why Jesus lived and d*ed, and what it means to be “saved.” He emphasizes following Jesus without fear of hell, and focuses on compassion, empathy, and justice in spiritual life. Click here to watch on YouTube Brian’s Book:  “Hell Bent: How the Fear of Hell Holds Christians Back from a Spirituality of Love” Follow Brian on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/berecker/ Substack: https://brianrecker.substack.com/ Brian’s link tree: https://linktr.ee/berecker Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the Old Colony Mennonites in Texas where JT was raised, education was only a priority up until 8th grade or age 13. After he escaped into the Military as soon as they would take him, he quickly realized he was either lied to or important information was left out. He ended up getting his GED at 21 years old. Learn how he navigated the "English" world with limited knowledge and a drive to succeed.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with JT Follow JT on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/jtguenter/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@jt_guenter Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In Western Texas is an Old Colony Mennonite settlement where John Guenter grew up. His mother converted and ended up being one of the most strict members there. He was bullied and abused constantly for being gay, even though he wouldn’t even fully understand his orientation until later in life. He was under threat of being kidnapped and taken to an unlicensed facility in Mexico where they sent people to be “fixed” for various reasons.  Aside from the terror of being separated from family and sent to another country, it was well known that the Mennonites in Mexico had ties with the Cartel. He realized it wasn’t safe for him to remain in the settlement and escaped by joining the military as soon as he was able.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up live with JT   Follow JT on social media! IG: https://www.instagram.com/jtguenter/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@jt_guenter Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Following up our incredible interview with Lilia Tarawa, today we go LIVE with her to further discuss what it was like escaping the Gloriavale cult.  Founded by her grandfather, who was inspired by the Amish in the US, Gloriavale became an isolated community in New Zealand that implemented communal living, strict gender roles and even identical uniforms for its members.  The numbers grew rapidly, especially since birth control wasn’t allowed. Lilia showed promise in leadership skills as a chiId, but was quickly shot down in an hours-long public shaming by her own grandfather. When her friends were being arranged to marry men they didn’t know or like, she realized she needed to escape. Learn how her whole family was able to leave Gloriavale and the struggles they faced afterwards.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Lilia Book:  “Daughter of Gloriavale:  My Life in a Religious Cult” Find Lilia on social media! Podcast: “Brandbreaker with Lilia Tarawa” TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@liliatarawa FB: https://www.facebook.com/msliliatarawa IG: https://www.instagram.com/liliatarawa/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lilia Tarawa was raised in an isolated community in New Zealand started by her grandfather, called Gloriavale. Inspired by the Amish in the US, he implemented communal living, strict gender roles and even identical uniforms for its members. The numbers grew rapidly, especially since birth control wasn’t allowed. Lilia showed promise in leadership skills as a chiId, but was quickly shot down in an hours-long public shaming by her own grandfather. When her friends were being arranged to marry men they didn’t know or like, she realized she needed to escape. Learn how her whole family was able to leave Gloriavale and the struggles they faced afterwards.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Lilia Book:  “Daughter of Gloriavale:  My Life in a Religious Cult” Find Lilia on social media! Podcast: “Brandbreaker with Lilia Tarawa” TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@liliatarawa FB: https://www.facebook.com/msliliatarawa IG: https://www.instagram.com/liliatarawa/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

No electricity, no running water, no indoor plumbing.  Lovina Zook grew up in one of the strictest Amish settlements started by her own family. Highly demanding gender roles were enforced leaving Lovina with no other choice than to marry a relative and become a busy housewife, or be considered an old maid at 24. She had high ambitions and knew she had to escape and trade her entire family and community to be free to live her dreams. Her stardom has grown exponentially on social media where she teaches others how to cook and bake like she did while in the Amish. Join us to find out how she managed to do it and any struggles she faced along the way.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Lovina's initial interview Find Lovina on social media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@lovina_zook/videos IG: https://www.instagram.com/lovina_zook/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@lovina_zook Website: https://socialsbylovina.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

No electricity, no running water, no indoor plumbing.  Lovina Zook grew up in one of the strictest Amish settlements started by her own family. It was common to marry cousins as most people there were related by blood and a woman would be considered an “old maid” if still single by 24 yrs old. Lovina discusses the hardest parts including struggling with mental heath, strict rules and not receiving any love or affection from parents of family members. As soon as she turned 18, she ran away in the middle of the night with the intention to become more than the Amish would ever allow. Lovina would then find a massive following on social media.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Lovina answering your questions Find Lovina on social media! YT: https://www.youtube.com/@lovina_zook/videos IG: https://www.instagram.com/lovina_zook/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@lovina_zook Website: https://socialsbylovina.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:17 Lovina's Amish settlement 00:06:01 How leadership is determined 00:10:52 Strict dress code 00:17:18 Importance of covering hair in Amish tradition 00:20:42 What family like was like for Lovina 00:26:30 Lack of affection within the household 00:34:17 Hygiene standards within the community 00:42:38 Why she ran away 00:48:52 Marrying cousins & s*xual repression 00:55:46 Smuggl*ng books 00:58:10 Why Lovina didn't want to be baptized 01:04:25 When Lovina left 01:15:29 Difficulties after leaving 01:28:01 How her parents treated her after leaving 01:33:15 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Surviving Mormonism is a new limited series hosted by Real Housewife of Salt Lake City Heather Gay where she interviews people with harrowing stories of how the LDS church failed them. It is a heartbreaking series that reveals the reality of a systemic problem that is not only covered up by church officials, but amplified by their only true intentions…avoiding lawsuits and avoiding bad media. Thousands of people have shared their stories of abuse and coverups at the hands of their leaders who were supposed to protect them. In a church that claims to be the one true church of God, their priorities of protecting their assets over their most vulnerable members, leaves us all bewildered and angry. Episode by episode, Alyssa Grenfell and Shelise recount these stories as shown on the show and give their thoughts as former Mormons.  Click here to watch on YouTube Check out Alyssa interview’s with Shelise on her Channel:  https://youtu.be/YEoxZu4Q8Ws Find Alyssa on social media! YT: www.youtube.com/@alyssadgrenfell/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/alyssadgrenfell TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@alyssadgrenfell Thumbnail Photo of Alyssa provided by Ilana Panich-Linsman website Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:52 Who is Heather Gay 00:07:20 How Mormon critics of the Church are shut out and silenced 00:11:28 Did Alyssa feel she knew enough about the truth behind Mormonism when she served a mission trip 00:13:43 Mormonism equates secrets with spirituality 00:17:24 Bishops are instructed to call the law firm instead of report SA cases 00:21:35 The church doesn't recognize being gay (David Matheson) 00:45:37 Nick Jones, the former Bishop, who stepped down for moral reasons 00:51:16 CW: CSA Cover up- Episode 3 01:00:40 Cognitive dissonance from the church members 01:07:41 How dissenters and critics have changed LDS policy 01:15:29 The insane ending to the show! 01:19:09 Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In 2017, Miranda signed up for classes at Tara Yoga Centre in London — a studio associated with the larger network Atman federation (also sometimes called MISA in other countries). At first, the classes were marketed as esoteric or tantric yoga — spiritual practices about inner work, self-improvement and body awareness. As time went on, students were encouraged to date the teachers, blurring lines and creating a toxic power dynamic. Only the true seekers attended the many expensive retreats, which groomed her into desiring a tantric session with the all powerful Guru nobody had met. Slowly, things would become more sexual in nature and those who didn’t participate were seen as prude. After demonstrating her devotion, she was sent to meet the Guru in Paris at an undisclosed location with blacked out windows and other women coming and going blindfolded. She would then be forced into a “spiritual initiation” with the Guru which left her feeling empty and confused. After the ritual, most women were taken to another location where they were told to liberate the world, they needed to be Cam girls. In November 2023, Bivolaru was arrested in France along with many associates. Authorities accused him and the group of kidnapping, trafficking, and sexual exploitation of women under the guise of spiritual practice. Miranda continues to speak out about her experiences. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Miranda on Social Media! IG:  https://www.instagram.com/gracefullawakenings/ https://www.facebook.com/usyogaacademy US Branch atmancultalert.org https://atmanyogafederation.org https://atmancultalert.org resources in multiple languages with media on the organization to date Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:33 Miranda's experience telling her story 00:10:07 Group background 00:14:11 How Miranda got involved 00:15:46 When Miranda realized what she'd gotten into 00:26:03 Miranda's experience at the retreat 00:36:19 Meeting the "spiritual guide" 00:54:05 Noticing red flags 01:12:21 How Miranda felt after leaving 01:15:40 Miranda's deconstruction 01:21:30 Prosecution 01:27:29 What brings Miranda joy now 01:32:22 Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Alexandra struggled with her parents’ treatment of her, as well as suffering SA which led to a deterioration of her mental health. Her parents then took drastic measures by paying for her to be kidnapped and taken to a wilderness camp in the dead of Utah winter. They were forced to hike every other day further into the mountains carrying a 60 pound backpack with very little food and warmth for 13 weeks straight. When hazardous conditions resulted in sores on their bodies, they would be asked to strip down in a tent where photos would be taken and sent off.  Alexandra will share the detrimental effects during college while deconstructing her total of 9 months in the TT industry and we will further discuss better alternatives. Now, Alexandra is a Youth Rights Activist who advocates about the troubled-teen system— typically residential treatment centers, wilderness-therapy programs, “boot camps,” and therapeutic boarding schools aimed at adolescents deemed “at risk,” “troubled,” or having behavioral, emotional, substance-use, or academic issues.  She calls for awareness and reform speaking out about her time in TTI on social media.  Less than a week ago (after 4 years) she has unmasked.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Alexandra's initial interview Follow Alexandra on social media! Instagram: IG @trail.seasoning  TikTok: @trailseasoning  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Alexandra struggled with her parents’ treatment of her, as well as suffering SA which led to a deterioration of her mental health. When she asked her parents for help, she was either dismissed or laughed at. When she was finally given some psychiatric care, it didn’t last long before her parents chose to instead hand over custody and ship her to Utah during winter for a wilderness camp. What was supposed to last 8-10 weeks went on for 13, deep in the snowy mountains with only a tent and utensils they cleaned with dirt. Compliance was expected and mental health ignored. However, even after Wilderness camp was over, she wouldn’t be permitted to go home. Instead she was taken to another facility for 6 months where her will was further broken and symptoms ignored.  Now, Alexandra is a Youth Rights Activist who advocates about the troubled-teen system— typically residential treatment centers, wilderness-therapy programs, “boot camps,” and therapeutic boarding schools aimed at adolescents deemed “at risk,” “troubled,” or having behavioral, emotional, substance-use, or academic issues.  She calls for awareness and reform speaking out about her time in TTI on social media.  Less than a week ago (after 4 years)  she has unmasked. Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Alexandra on social media! Instagram: IG @trail.seasoning  TikTok: @trailseasoning  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:31 Alexandra's background 00:08:55 Dealing with a SA experience 00:11:31 How Alexandra's parents reacted to her as*ault 00:22:13 Why her parents sent her away 00:23:26 Getting k*dnapped 00:26:32 Experience at the wilderness camp 00:28:25 Strip searched and pan*cking when reality sets in 00:34:02 Daily life at camp 00:43:21 The food they had to eat 00:47:38 "Therapy" at camp 00:53:12 Alexandra thought she was free after wilderness camp.... 00:56:11 The second program Alexandra was forced into 01:08:33 They trained them like dogs 01:13:25 What returning home was like 01:23:41 How Alexandra's parents have taken accountability 01:25:31 How Alexandra is doing now 01:27:39 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Raised in the “Holy War” and recruited as a soldier for Jesus, Philip Boltz, son of famous Christian singer Ray Boltz, was deeply invested in changing the world. He went on multiple mission trips abroad, ready to give everything, including his life for the cause. However, the goal to become a martyr was closer than he realized, when an emergency surgery leading to severe infection and medical neglect in India led him to be hospitalized. Ron Luze, the mega pastor leading this enormous teen-based corporation, even praised him for his valiance. This would cause him to double-down in his faith and be spiritually ready to go back to India the next year. More about Teen Mania can be found in the new docu-series Shiny Happy People: A Teenage Holy War, of which he is a part.  Click here to watch on YouTube TikTok: @suprfil  Website: https://www.philboltz.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:12 Phil's experience being part of the documentary & his religious upbringing 00:08:50 Phil's introduction to Teen Mania and mission trips 00:17:26 Appendectomy in India 00:23:08 Phil's infection and near de*th experience after surgery 00:30:41 Leadership's responsibility for the safety of youth 00:34:34 The Honor Academy and LTE's 00:39:32 Abnormal patterns and practices in the organization 00:51:05 Phil's teenage evangelizing and his stance now on high-control groups 00:59:41 The beginnings of Phil's deconstruction 01:05:52 Phil & who he is today 01:09:20 Final thoughts and Phil's "Linda Listen" See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Liz Boltz Ranfeld, who was featured in the recent Shiny Happy People 2 documentary, was fully immersed in the “Teen Mania” lifestyle. She went on several overseas mission-trips that caused more fear and guilt due to the inability to faith heal on the spot, however it opened her eyes to other cultures that were being labeled as “demonic”. Her father was a well known Christian singer/song writer, Ray Boltz, which put all eyes on her to be a perfect example. Fully blind to the harms being caused at Teen Mania, she only started deconstructing after her parents forbid her from doing the full time-year-long-internship after her brother nearly died and she was stranded overnight at a busy airport with no help from the organization. Her father later came out as gay just as their whole family was doing away with Christian Fundamentalism and she would end up being one of the most critical voices against TM. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Liz TikTok @lizboltz  IG @liz_boltz_ranfeld Website https://www.lizbr.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:19 Liz' upbringing and childhood  00:05:06 First impressions of Acquire the Fire 00:11:21 Liz' mission trips 00:21:30 Liz' parents influence 00:27:07 Teen Mania 00:32:03 How Columbine affected Liz 00:35:24 Liz' begins to question Teen Mania 00:42:32 Why Liz wasn't able to continue with Teen Mania 00:47:57 Liz' deconstruction 00:52:34 Recovering Alumni blog 00:55:02 Growing from the experience 01:00:13 What Liz hopes people get out of the documentary See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW: Mentions of CSA, SA, ED & Suicide Ideation.  Sochil Martin was born and raised in the worldwide church known as La Luz del Mundo. At age 9 she started to become groomed to be a concubine to the Apostle who was their living prophet on Earth. Her own aunt took her to him, because that’s what had happened to her and her family as young girls. They were not only expected to comply, it was considered a great blessing to be chosen and used. They were then considered an “unconditional” which meant their life was not their own and all choices would be made by the Apostle, including who they would eventually marry. However, even after marriage, the SA would not end. It wasn’t until Sochil’s husband rang the alarm that what was happening was not ok, that Sochil realized her adolescence was a horrible lie. Sochil then went on to help put some of the leadership in jail which will be covered in a livestream with her.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Sochil on social media: IG:  @sochilmartin.healing  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro  00:04:56 La luz del mundo 00:18:51 Sochil's upbringing 00:28:32 The draw of the church 00:39:12 What unconditional means in LDM 00:47:36 CW: Mentions of ED 00:58:48 How Sochil was paired with her husband 01:11:26 Sochil's husband finds out what's going on  01:17:34 Trying to warn parents to no avail 01:23:22 Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Born into the Church of Immortal Consciousness, Danny Rensch spent his childhood navigating the isolated confines of a cult. Despite psychological manipulation, physical abuse, and neglect, he persevered. An international chess master and world-class commentator, Rensch’s remarkable journey led him to being the face of Chess.com, one of the largest online gaming platforms in the world.  Rensch recounts his life, starting from the moment he discovered chess in the summer of 1995, all the way up to being at the center of the most explosive cheating scandal in chess history.  He chronicles the traumas of being “special” in a cult that forced separation from his mother. Mentored by an alcohol*c, Russian chess master, he found solace alongside suffer*ng in his obsession for an ancient game, and chess became his only escape. Rensch rose through the chess ranks until a medical emergency nearly took him out of the game forever. And it almost did, until Chess.com came along. Deeply heartfelt, keenly reflective, and haunting, today Danny dives further into the details of his book, Dark Squares, and the never-before-told story of Danny Rensch’s resilience, survival, and his enduring love for the game that saved him.  Click here to watch on YouTube Danny's Book Amazon: Dark Squares Follow Danny on Social Media! IG: @dannyrensch  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:54 Background on the Church of Immortal Consciousness 00:10:53 Danny's chiIdhood & his parents' relationship 00:20:43 First experiences with chess 00:25:52 When chess started taking off for Danny 00:29:31 Danny's relationship with his mentor, Igor 00:33:29 Being given his spiritual purpose to play chess 00:39:54 Connections to the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer 00:44:49 Sacrificing the relationship with his mother 00:54:48 Balancing intuition and belief 01:00:39 Living two lives 01:07:46 Medical issues & turning to subst*nces 01:18:46 The hero of Danny's story 01:25:58 Overcoming the mysoginy taught by the cult 01:30:48 Founding Chess.com 01:38:47 Triggering moments from the Queen's Gambit 01:43:00 Danny's life now 01:47:24 Full circle moment with Searching for Bobby Fischer 01:51:53 Danny's Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mandi Pagliarini was put into a recovery program at 15 yrs old and would quickly be handed over to multiple predators by the leader until she left at 22. She realized years later that not all forms of abuse feel the same, and has dedicated her work to teaching parents how to speak to their children and teens to help keep them safe. Every parent should have these important conversations at age appropriate times and Mandi is here to discuss the ways to do that.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Mandi's initial interview here Find and Support Mandi! IG @mandiptalkspredators https://www.instagram.com/mandiptalkspredators/ Substack: https://mandiptalkspredators.substack.com/ https://linktr.ee/mandipagliarini Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sarah Hartshorne gives the exposé on what REALLY happened on one of the hottest reality tv shows of its time, America’s Next Top Model. We did a deep dive interview with her, but today we focus in on some of the more disturbing parts of her time on Season 9 including waiving their rights to a camera free shower. Girls had no choice but to be moldable clay when it came to their identity, looks and sometimes their name. Even when a look change was the choice of production, they were sometimes judged and mocked for it later in the show. Identities, self esteem and boundaries crumbled all for the hope of making it to “the top”. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch her full interview here Find Sarah! Book: You Wanna Be on Top? A Memoir of Makeovers, Manipulation, and Not Becoming America's Next Top Model Website: https://www.sarahbhartshorne.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/sarahbhartshorne/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(CW: Mentions of Eating Disorder) Sarah Hartshorne, a fan favorite America’s Next Top Model contestant pulls back the curtain on the iconic but deeply flawed reality competition show, exposing the manipulation and chaos behind the scenes. Tyra Banks’s America’s Next Top Model was a cultural phenomenon with more than six million weekly viewers at its peak. Over its fifteen-year run, the show captured the glitz of the early aughts as well as its most toxic attitudes—from the glamorous but often questionable photo shoots to the cutting feedback from its highly respected if out-of-touch judges. But as its fans have grown up and as the next generation discovers ANTM, they’ve also begun to reckon with the enduring ways that the show has affected their body image and self-esteem. Sarah Hartshorne would have never guessed that her first foray into modeling would start with being blindfolded alongside three dozen other girls on a charter bus winding through Puerto Rico. Cycle 9’s only plus-size contestant takes us into the heart of the unforgiving auditions; the labyrinthian cruise ship the girls weren’t allowed to enjoy; and, of course, the L.A. “model house” teeming with hidden cameras and elaborately constructed tensions. As the season unfolds and the producers’ interview questions about her weight and her opinions of the other girls become increasingly pointed, Hartshorne uncovers the destabilizing methods employed to film “reality.”  Why didn’t the house have a microwave or a dishwasher? Why did girls regularly faint during eliminations? Why is it that the girls had their most meaningful conversations in closets? Sarah Hartshorne dissects the iconic show. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Sarah! Book: You Wanna Be on Top? A Memoir of Makeovers, Manipulation, and Not Becoming America's Next Top Model Website: https://www.sarahbhartshorne.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/sarahbhartshorne/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.* See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CHAPTER MARKS NOT AVAILABLE Mandi Pagliarini was thrown into Alcoholics Anonymous as a teen when her parents caught her drinking, and overreacted. She was lured into loving summer boarding camps with cute boys and fun activities, so immediately following high school graduation, the thought of being full time boarded with the group sounded fun and necessary for her health. Unfortunately, a bait and switch quickly happened when she realized that in this particular group, all sponsors and authority lead directly to the man at the top named Mike. He started micromanaging every single aspect of their lives including specific diets, where they went and even, who he thought they should be sleeping with. Young teens were given to 30+ year old men for “their own good” and this included Mike himself who was in his 50s. If compliance was not given, they were berated in front of the whole group. Mandi’s parents were still under the impression that she needed to be there, even though she had nothing close to resembling alcoholism, so she was left feeling alone and afraid of the outside world. After attempting to leave twice, it finally stuck and after drastically overcorrecting, she found her way.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Mandi! IG @mandiptalkspredators  Substack: https://mandiptalkspredators.substack.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today Shelise takes the hot seat to be interviewed by husband and co-producer Jonathan Rosales. A brief discussion about Mormonism and the various shapes it can take in people’s lives gives more context to why Shelise feels it is a cult/high control group. They discuss the light hearted aspects of leaving the cult bubble such as being out of the loop with pop culture. Then, for the first time, Shelise goes into depth about the CSA from her past and how it not only affects her daily life, but her life as a host who platforms other trauma survivors. Other hardships with running the channel while going through intense personal challenges are spoken of in detail which leads them to extreme gratitude for their audience and community who has gathered to support their guests and the cause.  Click here to watch on YouTube Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:08 Why Shelise feels she's a Cult Survivor, having left Mormonism 00:11:22 Does Shelise feel more "connected" to society now that she's more caught up on pop culture? 00:18:36 What it feels like for Shelise to be Agnostic 00:22:21 Did Shelise ever think she would interview Cult Survivors for a living? 00:28:27 How Shelise handles the trauma offload from hosting interviews each week? 00:30:59 Shelise discusses the ab*se she experienced from her father 00:34:18 What's it been like for Jonathan having to be a container for Shelise 00:34:40 Moments Shelise broke down after conducting interviews 00:39:52 Does Shelise have a relationship with her father now? 00:51:30 Confronting the ab*se from Shelise's father, now that Shelise & Jonathan have a daughter 00:54:55 Shelise & Jonathan discuss their m*scarriage 01:02:25 Being pregnant while interviewing Cult Survivors 01:04:13 Jonathan on producing Cults to Consciousness 01:10:28 Did Jonathan feel they would be successful in the beginning? 01:13:10 The time Shelise had psychic readings done 01:17:35 Jonathan & Shelise on filming their own documentary 01:23:23 C2C Officially launches Channel Memberships! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Carah Burrell and Ryan Fisher have continued to cover the Tim Ballard scandal since it was leaked two years ago that he had plans to become the new LDS prophet and take over the government through white nationalism. He was using his “connections” with the now deceased apostle Ballard (no relation) to bolster his cause at Operation Underground Railroad, which evidence has now suggested it was all a ruse, including allegedly luring women into SA situations by Tim during their “raids”. The LDS church responded swiftly with an ex-communication, severing his membership and ego. He has since been trying to appeal that decision multiple times, however, simultaneously alleging that the LDS church is full of Satanic Ritual ab*se of children and denouncing leadership.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Carah and Ryan: Carah's YT: https://www.youtube.com/@CarahBurrell Carah's LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/nuancehoe The LATEST Video on Tim: https://youtu.be/q3F-lBMaGw4?si=pEkCtD9k_bdGX5lu  Original interview on Last Dispensation:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knWZW93jvjk Julie Green Rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTBLjtbwbA Donorbox: https://donorbox.org/thanks-for-the-amazing-content-carah-let-me-help-you-keep-it-funded Venmo: CarahB: https://account.venmo.com/u/CarahB  Patreon exclusives: https://tinyurl.com/3r2jurck Let's get in touch! [email protected] or [email protected] Ryan's Info! Substack: https://ryanfisherak78.substack.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/ryanfisherak78/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NephiteExplorer Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Following our incredible interview with Rosei Quartz, today we go LIVE with her to further discuss her time with her threatening Adventist husband. Rosei was born a Seventh-Day Adventist where her father eventually became a charismatic and highly performative pastor in the church. She attended private Adventist schools and was constantly the center of her father’s fake sermons. Rosei’s mother got chronically ill and was ignored, being told her symptoms were made up for attention. She ended up passing suspiciously and Rosei’s father was married again 4 months later.  Rosei ended up in an Adventist marriage which ended up being extremely toxic. Upon asking for a divorce, she was called a witch and even “hexed her husband with COVlD”. He then threatened to disappear her into Adventist conversion therapy if she tried to leave. Escaping and fearing for her life, she frantically grew a social media following in hopes it would protect her. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch the intiial interview with Rosei Find Rosei on social media: Twitch: twitch.tv/roseiquartz IG: @roseiquartzofficial   Discord:  https://discord.gg/MZqsvXUZHN TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@roseiquartz Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

NO TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE Rosei Quartz was part of the Seventh Day Adventist church in Canada where her father became a very performative and charismatic Pastor. It never felt authentic to Rosei and things got worse when he started using stories (which were most likely fabricated) about her in his very public sermons. This put an unwelcome target on her back as a chiId that stuck with her throughout her years in the church. When her mother became chronically ill, it was believed that she was either making it up for attention, or just wasn’t being faithful enough to be well. Rosei watched helplessly as her mother withered away before her eyes, even losing her teeth to this unknown cause. What’s worse, her mother suspiciously passed when Rosei was at college and years later she found out through her autopsy that she died of a fentanyl overdose. Lies upon lies built even though an adventist marriage until she finally escaped it all.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our LIVE with Rosei Find Rosei on social media: Twitch: twitch.tv/roseiquartz IG: @roseiquartzofficial   Discord:  https://discord.gg/MZqsvXUZHN TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@roseiquartz Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As a teenager, devoted to her faith, Carrie Saum felt being born a woman was a punishment. Her mother was a strongly devout Christian woman who implored on Carrie that if she didn’t go to Russia on a teen mission trip, Russians would go to Hell and their blood would be on her hands. These teen trips were mostly run by other young adults who put the kids in ill*gal and morally questionable situations. However, nothing was off the table when it came to showing your devotion to God. In fact, dying a martyr is what Carrie assumed would happen to her. She didn’t realize she had any other choice. Now she is committed to exposing the “Honor Academy” for what it is/was. A way to exploit teens for their time, money and labor, to create an army of unquestioning, obedient adults.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Carrie on social media: TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@carriesaum IG: https://www.instagram.com/carriesaum Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:51 Carrie's part in the documentary 00:08:15 Carrie's upbringing 00:13:53 Acquire the Fire 00:20:52 Carrie drops out of college to join the internship program 00:28:58 What it was like when Carrie's parents moved out of state 00:32:17 Carrie's time in Russia 00:42:56 The Honor Academy 00:55:36 Columbine 00:59:24 ESOAL 01:10:09 How the martyr mindset affected Carrie 01:19:07 After deconstruction 01:21:49 What brings Carrie joy  01:23:24 Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Amy Duggar, cousin to the famous Duggar family from TLC’s “19 Kids and Counting” exposes what life was REALLY like on and off the big screen. Her own childhood was plagued by a narcissistic and cruel father who would constantly take her on a roller coaster of ups and downs. Her grandfather (Jim Bob & her mother’s father) was also a character that parents knew could not be alone with their kids. However, there was even a time in her childhood when her grandfather lived in her home.  Today we zoom in on life in an abusive home, the chaos and the confusion, in contrast with the life of luxury on camera and what that did to her mental health.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Amy Amy’s Book: Holy Disruptor: Shattering the Shiny Facade by Getting Louder with the Truth IG: @amyrachelleking  TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@amyrking Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE Amy Duggar, cousin to the famous Duggar family from TLC’s “19 Kids and Counting” exposes what life was REALLY like on and off the big screen. Her own childhood was plagued by a narcissistic and cru*l father who would constantly take her on a roller coaster of ups and downs. Meanwhile, her uncle Jim Bob’s family seemed to have everything together. Perfectly behaved children combined with an ideal and picture perfect lifestyle left her desiring a home as loving and wholesome as theirs. However, once she was invited into their family on a more regular basis (when the producer saw money signs in Amy’s outspoken personality) the facade slowly faded when she realized her cousins were never allowed to have “negative feelings” or speak critically of other family members. Even if that meant sacrificing their own safety. She would learn the true character of one of her best friends and cousins, Josh Duggar; a secret that would shock the world.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our LIVE with Amy answering your questions Amy’s Book: Holy Disruptor: Shattering the Shiny Facade by Getting Louder with the Truth IG: @amyrachelleking  TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@amyrking Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Thembi Buthelezi came to America from South Africa, becoming very successful in New York City. Her sister back home was deeply involved in a cult there, who told her she could syphon her sister’s life through magic and sacrifice. Thembi’s life started falling apart the minute her sister arrived in her home and she knew something was wrong. Thembi distanced herself from her sister, went to ministerial school and ended up in Los Angeles at the famous mystical church called Agape. Little did she know, she would end up falling for the charms of a charismatic South African “Prophet” who was preaching at Agape on healing ancestral trauma. The same cult leader her sister had been involved in. A trip to Ghana to the cult headquarters would end up revealing a dark world riddled with secret sex magic and coercive techniques to trick white American women into giving up their marriages, fortunes and mind to the cult. The damage done took Thembi years as a buddhist nun to unravel and piece her life back together. Now, she is determined to warn everyone about this false prophet. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Thembi YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thembibuthelezi/ Website: https://www.thembibuthelezi.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:12 Thembi Introduces Herself and Her Background 00:08:50 Comparisons Between Churches in Africa vs America 00:13:44 The Areas of Your Life The Cult Targets 00:18:21 When Thembi Was Initially Targeted By the Cult & Her Sister's Involvement 00:25:32  Thembi’s First Introductions to the Cult & Her Spiritual Journey 00:34:09 Thembi’s First Introductions to the Leader of the Cult 00:38:41 Beginning Initiations into the Cult & Recognizing Strange Behaviors 00:43:23 What the Cult Leader Asked Thembi To Do - S*xual Rituals & Other Cult Practices 00:48:08 More of the Witchcraft Practices Present in the Cult 00:50:30 The Cult's Tactics to Increase Followers 00:55:38 Sat*nic Practices Within the Cult 00:59:07 The Goals of the Cult 01:02:51 CW: Mentions of Human Sacr*fice, the Darker Aspects and Practices of the Cult 01:10:01 CW: Mentions of Su*cide, How Thembi Escaped the Cult's Influence and Her Time as a Bhuddist Nun 01:16:38 Thembi’s Healing and Beginning to Expose the Cult 01:24:04 Thembi’s Life Today 01:26:28 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Charlotte Hayes was adopted as a baby to Seventh-Day Adventist parents who used the doctrine to h*rm her in unimaginable ways. She was forced to eat raw vegan, not given adequate nutrients and kept dang*rously thin, while the rest of the family ate normally. On top of that, CSA started happening at age 7 and she was told it was to prepare her for being a wife. Charlotte will further discuss her former mother’s obsessions with the health doctrine of SDA and how she weap*nized against Charlotte. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Charli's initial interview Watch pt 2 of Charli's initial interview Find Charlotte on social media: tiktok: @charli.hayes  IG @charlihayes_   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Charlotte was adopted as a baby to Seventh Day Adventist parents who used the doctrine to harm her in unimaginable ways. More details on her childhood can be found in part one linked below. Finally, at 18 years old, she enlisted a couple friends through Snapchat to help her escape just days before her former father, who made threats on her life for exposing his abuse, returned home. With only a bag of clothes, an erased iPad and a notebook with handwritten contacts, she did her best to survive in a world she had been completely sheltered from. Including confronting her former parents in an attempt to get more of her belongings, then falling into another predatory living situation.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Charlotte's interview Find Charlotte on social media: tiktok: @charli.hayes  IG @charlihayes_   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Markers 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:05 Recap 00:03:38 Charlotte plans her escape 00:19:39 Finding work after running away 00:26:42 Returning to her old church 00:28:46 CW r*pe 00:32:57 Moving away from her strict diet 00:35:06 Living with another secret pred*tor 00:36:19 Confronting her former parents after escaping 00:44:02 Deconstructing fear and shame 00:50:25 Charlotte leaning into her s*xual preferences 00:56:58 Meet Hadley 00:57:29 What brings Charlotte joy now 01:03:09 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW: CSA, rape.  Charlotte Hayes was adopted as a baby to Seventh-Day Adventist parents who used the doctrine to harm her in unimaginable ways. She was forced to eat raw vegan, not given adequate nutrients and kept dangerously thin, while the rest of the family ate normally. On top of that, CSA started happening at age 7 and she was told it was to prepare her for being a wife. When signs of physical abuse caught the attention of her public school, they got CPS involved, but the system was a colossal failure and only made it worse at home. She even reported the violence to an SDA pastor who then reported it to the higher councils of the church, but they did nothing.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 of Charlotte's interview Find Charlotte on social media: tiktok: @charli.hayes  IG @charlihayes_   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Markers 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:23 Charlotte’s adoption into an SDA family 00:09:18 Strict upbringing 00:15:21 Adopted to be h*rmed 00:16:38 TW: CSA from her adopted father 00:20:30 How purity culture at church mentally clashed with CSA at home  00:25:46 Charlotte's experience in public school 00:33:14 Teachers started to notice signs of ab*se 00:42:23 Being gay in strict purity culture 00:45:54 Experience at boarding school 00:50:54 Washing each other's feet at school... 00:54:08 Charlotte's breaking point 01:02:21 Plotting the escape 01:07:29 Linda listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW: CSA. Jacinta LeGore was born and raised in the Jehovah’s Witnesses. After being forced to confess that she had been CSA’d, then subsequently punished for it, it lead her down a shame spiral. Feeling worthless, she decided to get married at 16 to hopefully heal the part of her that the Elders and her parents thought was “impure”. The marriage ended up being another painful situation which ended in being disfellowshipped. She was immediately cut off from her family and friends, with no real lifeline in the outside world.  When Jacinta became pregnant, her parents expected to see the chiId, because a loophole states that if someone has never been baptized, one does not have to shun them. However, they were still actively shunning Jacinta, treating her less than human, so she cut off all contact. Jacinta’s parents threatened her with “grandparents’ legal rights” when she would no longer let them see her daughter, even though she was disfellowshipped and cut off herself. The final straw came when  she picked up her daughter from her parents’ and the person who ab*sed her was there. Now she is navigating life, choosing to keep toxic relationships far from her and her daughter for her own mental health.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Jacinta IG @piercingsbyjacintah  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Markers 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:11 Jacinta’s Strict ChiIdhood in the JW's 00:08:15 CW: CSA, Damaging Experiences as a ChiId 00:13:23 CW: CSA, Jacinta’s Judicial Process experience 00:19:30 Punishment & Choosing to Get Married at 16 00:23:55 Life After Getting Married 00:27:43 The End of Jacinta’s Marriage and Being Disfellowshipped 00:34:10 Shunning Jacinta has Received From Her Parents 00:38:21 Persecution Complex of High Control Groups 00:42:10 The Aftermath of Setting Boundaries With Parents 00:45:54 Deconstructing the JW's 00:49:36 How Jacinta is doing now 00:53:52 Linda, listen 00:55:10 Final thoughts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Alissa Watson comes back to update us with some news of her father. She was a devout Jehovah’s Witness through adulthood, marriage and two children, despite a birthing scare that could’ve taken a dark turn if she ended up needing a blood transfusion. Her husband knew his wife was not allowed to receive blood due to the strict doctrine around it, but he was not willing to lose his wife over it. This sent him down a deeply researched deconstruction path which ended up leading them both out of the religion. However, one cannot simply leave the faith and maintain their life as they know it. Friends, family, church members and any devout JW is forced to implement strict shunning. Overnight, they lost everyone. Alissa shares how her father asked for a meeting (2 years after cutting her off) and how reality set in when she realizes his true intentions.  Click here to watch on YouTube Catch C2C on Alissa’s channel Watch Alisa’s initial interview Find Alissa on Social: YouTube: @athomewithalissa https://www.youtube.com/@athomewithalissa IG: @athome_withalissa  https://www.instagram.com/athome_withalissa TikTok: @athomewithalissa https://www.tiktok.com/@athomewithalissa Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:11 Background on the JW's and Alissa's story 00:07:34 The JW's shunning practices 00:12:34 Atributes of high-control groups 00:17:43 The day-to-day of being shunned 00:23:58 Alissa's complicated communication with her father 00:30:21 Alissa confronts her father 00:36:31 Discussing CSA in the JW faith  00:44:10 Doubling down on shunning 00:50:22 Family relationships & the effect on Alissa's children since leaving 00:55:31 Alissa's husband's experience since leaving  01:01:28 Updates and final thoughts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE CW: CA, mentions of suicide- Jamie Mustard was born into one of the most influential fringe movements in the 1970s: Scientology. Raised on a mythos of spaceships and made to believe that it was his life’s purpose to help save the world, he was determined to survive—not only unsurvivable neglect but also the impossible physical and psychological gauntlet of extreme poverty and illiteracy. Children were kept in animalistic conditions away from their parents and hardly kept alive until they were deemed “useful” by Scientology. At which point ensued extreme, dangerous labor and endless hours of Scientology classes to keep their “ethics up”. The last straw was being punished for his bosses wrongdoings at 19 when he was sent aboard a cruise liner for hard manual labor for months. Once he learned they had intent to send him back yet again, he made his quick yet calculated escape for freedom. Uneducated and illiterate, he worked hard and with the guidance and support of kind educators, managed to graduate from a prestigious UK university in economics. He’s a true testament to what one can achieve after all odds are stacked against them.  Click to watch on YouTube Watch Jamie on Soft White Underbelly Jamie’s book: ChiId X: A Memoir of Slavery, Poverty, Celebrity, and Scientology Ben Bella Books Jamie’s work - website: https://www.iconist.ltd/ IG: @jamie_mustard   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After an amazing discussion with Jenna Miscavige, we knew we had to come back and further discuss what led her out of her Scientology marriage. Even further, we will explore the tactics that set former Scientologists up for failure when it comes to relationships after the cult. A real and raw conversation about the hardships faced when raised in a militaristic, emotionless prison like environment.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Jenna's initial interview here Find Jenna on social media: YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JennaMiscavige IG: https://www.instagram.com/therealjennamiscavige/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE Jenna Miscavige was born into and grew up in Scientology. Her uncle, David Miscavige, is the leader of Scientology. Jenna details her nearly parentless life as a number in the militaristic conditions where they kept the children. Her mother was a high ranking member, so when she saw how she lived in what felt like royal conditions compared to her, she doubled down in her beliefs with the intention of also being able to live the same lifestyle in the upper ranks. Things definitely started to spiral when Jenna found out both of her. Parents were no longer Scientologists and she would then be punished for that. Marriage seemed like the first step towards any loving and meaningful relationship (a glimpse of joy in her house of horrors), but even then her plans were disrupted time and time again due to who she was in relation to the leader. Her escape was long and drawn out with Scientology never truly leaving her and her husband alone. Learn more about her life in her memoir Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology & My Harrowing Escape as well as on her YouTube Channel linked below.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Jenna on social media: YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JennaMiscavige IG: https://www.instagram.com/therealjennamiscavige/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Following our incredible interview with Melissa Duge Spiers, today we go LIVE to confront the question...  Is Seventh-Day Adventism a Cult?  Melissa grew up in the shadow of control, silence, and secrets inside the insular fundamentalist sect, Seventh-Day Adventist Church. From being beaten for resisting a childhood home perm to seducing a forbidden public school athlete in her parents’ bed to reclaim her autonomy, Melissa’s early years were shaped by repression, shame, and religious programming. Her escape from the SDA church launched her into a life of risk. When Melissa learned that a family member was a serial chiId predator shielded by the church, her world imploded. But this revelation was only the beginning. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch her initial interview Find Melissa on Social Media! HOLY DISOBEDIENCE memoir IG: https://www.instagram.com/the.glory.whole/ Personal IG: https://www.instagram.com/melissadugespiers_writer Substack: https://substack.com/@melissadugespiers email: [email protected] Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE CW: mentions of eating disorders, female GM, CSA, SA.  Melissa Duge Spiers grew up in the shadow of control, silence, and secrets inside the insular fundamentalist sect, Seventh-Day Adventist Church. From being beaten for resisting a childhood home perm to seducing a forbidden public school athlete in her parents’ bed to reclaim her autonomy, Melissa’s early years were shaped by repression, shame, and religious programming. Her escape from the SDA church launched her into a life of risk. When Melissa learned that a family member was a serial chiId predator shielded by the church, her world imploded. But this revelation was only the beginning. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our follow up LIVE with Melissa here Find Melissa on Social Media! HOLY DISOBEDIENCE memoir IG: https://www.instagram.com/the.glory.whole/ Personal IG: https://www.instagram.com/melissadugespiers_writer Substack: https://substack.com/@melissadugespiers email: [email protected] Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE CW:  CA, DV, Mentions of CSA Material & Suicidal Attempts/Ideation.  Zett Espinoza was born into a professional criminal family in Los Angeles. Her mother struggled with mental illness and that often left the children neglected and afraid. Initiated into gang life around 12 years old, Zett’s father was conditioned for illegal activity. He started an illegal empire and employed his children to avoid his own fingerprints on the horrific materials they were packing. He was constantly running from the law and even escaped prison at one point which led him to cross into Mexico and force his children to take on new identities. Zett and her siblings had no choice but to fall into line and continue the criminal activity into their adult years. Zett managed to escape that life, but not without serious threats from her father who is still to this day at large.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Zett on Soft White Underbelly - “A Fugitive Childhood" Follow Zett on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@ZettEspinoza Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW: Suicidal ideation, self harm.  Born in the 1970s in Wisconsin, Arno grew up in a turbulent environment with alcohol, fighting, and family dysfunction around him.  As a teenager, he was angry, rebellious, and looking for belonging. That led him toward white power skinhead culture in the late 1980s. He became a founding member of a major U.S. skinhead gang and the lead singer of a hate-metal band that glorified racism and violence. Eventually, cracks began forming in his extremist worldview and a few things shifted him away from hate: Becoming a father, kindness from people he was supposed to hate and burnout from violence — he saw friends go to prison, die, or spiral into addiction, and he realized the path only led to destruction. By the mid-1990s, he walked away from the white power movement. In 2011, Arno helped found Life After Hate, an organization dedicated to helping people leave extremist movements and rebuild their lives.  He became a public speaker, sharing his story in schools, prisons, and communities around the world. His memoir My Life After Hate (2010) details his radicalization and transformation. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Connect with Arno: Website:  www.mylifeafterhate.com IG: @ArnoMichaelis  LinkedIn: @ArnoMichaelis Parental resource: parents4peace.org If you are concerned about someone’s extreme beliefs or behaviors, Parents for Peace has a free and confidential helpline at 844-49-PEACE (844-497-3223) or email at [email protected]  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:21 Why Arno Decided to Share His Past; His Backstory 00:06:31 Arno’s ChiIdhood & The Beginnings of His Anti-Social Behavior 00:12:25 How Arno’s Self-Esteem & Tactics He That Would've Benefitted Him as a Boy 00:18:05 Arno’s Group's Interaction with Other White National*sts 00:23:14  How Arno Used His Natural Leadership Abilities Throughout His Life and As Part of H*te Groups 00:26:37 How Arno Became Familiar with White National*st Ideologies 00:33:05 Life After Moving Out of the House at 16 00:39:11 The Specifics of How Arno Adopted Rac*st Ideologies 00:47:13 CW: Rac*sm, Arno Shares the Beginning Steps of Him Leaving the Sk*nhead Group and Ideologies 00:48:57 CW: Attempted Su*cide, self h*rm 00:52:33 CW: Attempted Su*cide, self h*rm, Having a Daughter While Still in the White National*st Group 00:55:18 CW: Su*cidal ideation, self h*rm 00:59:44 Arno Explains His Self-Destructive Attitudes and What Eventually Led him Out of the Sk*nheads 01:07:26 Arno Shares Some of the Kindness Seeds People Planted Along the Way that Were Contrary to His Ideologies 01:15:32 Arno’s Famous "McDonald's Story" 01:23:51 What Arno is Doing Now And How He Helps Get People Out of Extrem*st H*te Groups 01:27:01 Arno’s Interactions with Daryl Davis 01:31:23 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW:  SA, ED, Suicidal Ideation.  Growing up Ultra Orthodox in an extremely abusive home, left Tzivya Murrin completely unprepared for the outside world. She tried to get help multiple times to get away from her parents, but the system failed her. Once she finally got someone on the outside to listen, hands were held out to pull her out of her dangerous situation. However, some of those hands lead her right back into chaos and destruction. Find out how she was finally able to find peace and stability after a long tumultuous life.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Pt 1 Find Tzivya on social media: https://www.instagram.com/tzivyateemurrin/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/tzivya.murrin.medicaid.planner https://www.facebook.com/SensibleSeniorPlanning Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW:  CSA, CA, ED, Suicidal Ideation.  In a system that keeps victims silent in their pain, perpetrators go unchecked and are further emboldened to inflict harm. Tzivya Murrin was trapped in this system. No matter what she did, her parents found reason for extreme punishment. She asked for help multiple times from her community and instead was handed right back to her abusers. Time and time again the system failed her and she was forced to live a childhood rife with every type of abuse imaginable.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 Find Tzivya on social media: https://www.instagram.com/tzivyateemurrin/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/tzivya.murrin.medicaid.planner https://www.facebook.com/SensibleSeniorPlanning Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:44 Tzivya's sect of Judaism and its teachings against non-Jews 00:12:31 Tzivya's family structure and dynamic 00:16:40 CW: CA, The patterns of ab*se around getting good grades 00:23:28 Tzivya's community turning a blind eye 00:28:53 CW: CA, Tzivya's taking risks to lessen her ab*se 00:34:38 CW: CA, CSA, The start of Tzivya being CSA 00:39:30 CW: CA, CSA, Su*cidal Ideation, The extreme pun*shment Tzivya received for cheating 00:45:07 Tzivya's mother  00:48:47 CW: CA, CSA, ED, When Tzivya's mother started ab*sing her 00:54:02 The ways Tzivya's mom tried to control her body and food 00:58:05 CW: CA, CSA, ED, Tzivya's first attempts to talk to others about the ab*se 01:06:06 The continued control during and after high school 01:11:29 The teaching to not report within Tzivya's sect of Judaism See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Targeted violence hit a Mormon church in Michigan which claimed at least 5 lives. The same day, it was discovered that the LDS prophet had passed away at 101 years old. A weekend full of grief. We will discuss the events, hold space for those lost and talk about what might be next with the new prophet Dallin H Oaks. Joining us to speak on the history of Oaks is Bryan from True Mormon Quotes.  Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Bryan on IG: http://www.instagram.com/true_mormon_quotes AP article: https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-shooting-michigan-dcb79ee701b0b8076bf73e30e10ba2b7 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Tamara was a new mom seeking connection and community in a scary world where simplicity was romanticized. She was introduced to the Twelve Tribes by a family member and after some love bombing on some overnight trips, she was hooked. She convinced her husband to sell all they owned including their home and even clothes to leave society and move their family into a single bedroom in a communal TT home. Her son Emmet was less than 2 years old and he would come to live a difficult life in the strict boundaries of the cult. Tamara would come to regret her decision after the bait and switch had become clear, but it was too late. She went on to have more children and wouldn’t leave the cult with her family until 14 years later. Tamara and her son Emmet talk about what it was like going through it together.  Click here to watch on YouTube Tamara's Interview Pt 1 Tamara's Interview Pt 2 Find Tamara! FB: Tamara Mathieu Author  IG: https://www.instagram.com/tamaramathieu4/ Book: All Who Believed Click here to watch Emmet’s interview  Follow Emmet on social media: Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/milwalkietalkie TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@milwalkietalkie YouTube: https://youtube.com/@milwalkietalkie Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Just before Emmet Mathieu was 2 years old, his mother Tamara longed for community and simple living, so she convinced her husband to permanently move into the Twelve Tribes commune. Immediate regret set in, but it was too late. Forced to conform to extreme chiId discipline, Emmet was punished every day just for doing developmentally normal things. Immediate compliance was mandatory and if not given he would be punished with the “rod”. He wasn’t allowed to have independent play, speak to other children, and was put to work as young as a toddler. Emmet explains how he learned to cope and the struggles he faced after his family escaped in his late teen years.  Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Emmet on social media: Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/milwalkietalkie TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@milwalkietalkie YouTube: https://youtube.com/@milwalkietalkie Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:53 Emmet's summary of the 12 Tribes 00:08:07 CW: CA, Emmet's standout chiIdhood memories 00:16:36 Toxic productivity and schooling in the community 00:27:03 Friendships and secretly communicating with other chiIdren 00:32:41 Starting work as a chiId 00:36:08 Seeing the outside world, and the instability within the cult 00:45:53 Emmet's involvement with teaching chiIdren, and moving to Florida 00:51:30 Emmet's feeling he's carried with him since leaving & life in Florida 00:56:50 Emmet's family leaves the cult 01:01:13 Working, finishing school, and navigating high school sports 01:08:10 Dating and meeting girls 01:12:18 Gaming, streaming, and sharing his story 01:16:17 Emmet's Linda Listen and final thoughts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After joining what Tamara Mathieu thought would be a wholesome, down to earth, communal family group in August of 2000, things quickly went downhill— she immediately regretted her decision.  At 23 years old, Tamara, her husband and their 17-month-old son gave up EVERYTHING to join the Twelve Tribes worldwide religious organization.  In return they received a militaristic, impossible-to-please hierarchy, where she worked constantly and had to employ harsh discipline on her children.  Fourteen years went by and enough was enough. Find out how her family finally escaped the Twelve Tribes and learned how to once again be “of the world” with no jobs, money or housing.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch the interview with Tamara's son, Emmet Watch pt 1 Find Tamara! FB: Tamara Mathieu Author  IG: https://www.instagram.com/tamaramathieu4/ Book: All Who Believed Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:19:12 The "Prison of Specialness" & meeting good people 00:23:22 What adolescence looks like inside vs outside the 12 Tribes 00:30:47 The struggles adapting to living in the outside world 00:36:31 Repercussions on Tamara's family after leaving the community  00:45:13 The Yellow Deli's 00:52:58 Food in the 12 Tribes 00:56:21 Tamara's passions and joys & adjustments she's still making 01:03:55 Tamara's Linda Listen and final thoughts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lured into the TWELVE TRIBES (Yellow Deli) Cult TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE Tamara Mathieu was a new mother in a scary world where Columbine had just happened. Romanticizing a simple life and craving safety for her family, she began visiting the Twelve Tribes. She noticed a village raising the well behaved chiIdren, homemade food and happy families. Feeling alone, isolated and overwhelmed at home with her baby, she spent more and more time at their compounds. She was welcomed with open arms, given gift baskets and the women loved her chiId. It felt like home. She convinced her husband to leave his high paying job, sell their home and all their belongings and completely leave their modern life behind to move into the Twelve Tribes. Assigned one bedroom for their family, everything changed once they moved in. Work became excruciating, chiId discipline expectations were extreme and Tamara would see her husband even less than before. Regret set in, but it was too late. She wouldn’t escape the community until 14 years later. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 Watch the interview with Tamara's son, Emmet Find Tamara! FB: Tamara Mathieu Author  IG: https://www.instagram.com/tamaramathieu4/ Book: All Who Believed Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Featured in the Shiny Happy People 2 doc-series, Cindy was deep in evangelical nationalism when she was hired as head of PR to silence whistleblowers from the Honor Academy at Teen Mania. She was told they were simply disgruntled chiIdren who were lying to defame the massive enterprise. Years later, she would realize, not only were the alumni telling the truth, but the upper management knew about the tort*re the chiIdren went through and did nothing to stop it, or change their practices for the following group. In fact, it was all part of the system to break the will of the interns and mold them into warriors for Jesus so they could penetrate all facets of society and create a Christian nation. Once Cindy’s eyes were opened, she took all their insider financial information to a news station to blast the story to the world.  Click here to watch on YouTube Email Cindy:  [email protected] Watch the interview with Mica Ringo Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mica Ringo was heavily invested in Teen Mania and went through the whole program completely ignoring xyr inner voice of authenticity. Being yourself was never an option in a group that specifically molds teens to be extremist warriors for Jesus. The program was grueling and even abusive in an attempt to break down the character of teens coming in.  Mica would go on to create the Recovering Alumni blog which would lead to the fall of Teen  Mania Ministries! Click here to watch on YouTube Find Mica on social media: IG: https://www.instagram.com/mx.micaringo/ Website: https://www.micaringo.com Watch the interview with Cindy Mallette, the person hired to silence Mica Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 intro 00:05:46 Mica's upbringing 00:09:38 Things that lead Mica on the path towards Team Mania 00:15:27 Navigating Mica's s*xuality within purity culture 00:17:53 Mica's involvement in Team Mania 00:27:36 The Honor Academy 00:45:09 Mica's blog 00:56:55 Mica's Marriage & deconstruction 01:09:44 Mica goes to the press 01:15:04 Linda, listen 01:16:12 What brings Mica joy now See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE Celebrating 250 episodes with these 5 incredible women!  We explore ways in which different Amish and sometimes Mennonite settlements had the same methods of control and even ab*se. We cover their rules, restrictions, medical allowances (or lack thereof), why CSA is rampant and how the perpetr*tors are often protected rather than truly held accountable. The stories and wisdom are beautifully shared amongst survivors supporting each other. They also share ways in which they believe women can take back their power in or outside a cult and gain clarity and freedom. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support our guests! Lizzie Hershberger Swartzentruber AMISH: The Unknown SINISTER Side of the Strictist Settlement  Swartzentruber AMISH: Seeking JUSTICE Against the Strictest Settlement Resources: https://www.theplainpeoplespodcast.com/resource Her book: “Behind Blue Curtains: A True Crime Memoir of an Amish Woman’s Survival, Escape, and Pursuit of Justice”  Website: https://www.lizziehershberger.com/ IG @lizzie.hershberger  Naomi Swartzentruber AMISH: How Growing Up in the Strictest Settlement Led to Dr*gs and S*x Work  Naomi’s book:  The Amazing Adventures of an Amish Stripper  IG & TT:  @AmishInspiration  https://www.instagram.com/AmishInspiration https://www.tiktok.com/@amishinspiration FB: https://www.facebook.com/share/1Aq4Tw6q9h/?mibextid=wwXIfr Elizabeth Hilty AMISH: Her Unlicensed Midwives Used Veterinary Tools  Connect with Elizabeth on Facebook Meg Delagrange-Belfon “Sins of the Amish” Doc: Darker Details than They Were Willing to Release on TV  Her artwork: https://www.coloringspirit.com/ Her Blog: https://blendedmix.life/ IG: @coloringspirit  Plain Anna  Mary Byler AMISH Woman "Sinned" by Taking Her Brothers to Court for SA  Mary's Website: https://www.themisfitamish.com/amishresources IG @plainrainbows_mary  Mary's Book: Reflections and Memories of An Amish Misfit: "My therapist says that’s not true, but I digress"  Fb: https://www.facebook.com/Mary.A.Byler/ TikTok: the.misfit.amish Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Following up our initial interview with the incredible April Ajoy, we go LIVE with her to further discuss her upbringing as a Christian Nation*list, in which they drilled into teens a persecution complex that would put their life on the line as a declared “believer”. Fresh off the heels of “Shiny Happy People: Teenage Holy War”, April is a successful content creator and podcast host, sharing stories from her past and how she flipped a 180 in her thinking and way of life. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch April’s initial interview Find April: Book: Star-Spangled Jesus  IG: https://www.instagram.com/aprilajoy/ Podcast: The Tim and April Show Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Last month the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints lost an appeal to remain blameless in the case of two bishops not reporting egregious acts of CSA in the state of Arizona.  Today we go in depth with former guest and current lawyer Kolby Reddish to further discuss the case and potential legal outcome. Click here to watch on YouTube Check out our interviews with Kolby:   Mormon Church SUED for Not Reporting Unspeakable Confessions (the Verdict) ft. Kolby Reddish Mormonism On Trial: Ex-Mormon Lawyer Challenges Truth Claims How a Mormon Lawyer Lost His Faith Ft. Kolby Reddish Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After escaping the COG cult in Australia with her husband, Maria Esguerra spent years in higher education so she could become a psychologist and better understand her past. Her mission now is to help other survivors of high control groups and people, move through their trauma and find healing in understanding. She is even doing her best to help legally forge a path for those who are victims of coercive control and help the courts understand that crimes are not always so black and white. Our discussion covers the ways in which children's wiring is not only affected, but hijacked, when growing up in dangerous and or high control cults.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Maria! The Olive Leaf Network:  Linktr.ee https://linktr.ee/Mariaesguerra IG @cultpsyc  TikTok: @mariaesguerra13  FB: https://www.facebook.com/maria.esguerra.75436 DeCult: www.decult.net Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fresh off the heels of “Shiny Happy People: Teenage Holy War” we sit with April Ajoy.  She wouldn’t have called herself a Christian Nation*list when she performed her original song “America Say Jesus” on the Jim Bakker show, or when she participated in Jesus Marches across America. April just considered herself a good Christian: faithful, and determined to make America a Christian nation once again. But as her view of the world widened, and she was faced with loss, grief and confronting beliefs, she began to take a closer look at the ideology she fiercely defended and preached herself. A successful content creator and podcast host, April shares stories from her past and how she flipped a 180 in her thinking and way of life.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find April: Book: Star-Spangled Jesus https://www.amazon.com/dp/1546006680 IG: @aprilajoy Podcast: The Tim and April Show Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Featured in the new and second season of Shiny Happy People, Dani was determined to live a life dedicated to Jesus as a young teen. She attended Acquire the Fire events in her early years which eventually led her to officially joining the Teen Mania Honor Academy program. She spent years paying thousands to work for free to travel on a bus and put on these huge events weekends at a time. She would even hang lights as crew, before putting on hour long productions as an actress and singer. At the height of her seniority, someone in the town snitched on her for kissing a boy and her whole world came to a screeching halt. Her friends were no longer allowed to see or speak with her and her unpaid, yet highly coveted position at the Honor Academy was stripped away. Learn more about her journey of working her way back in, with a heavy heart, before finally unraveling it all years later.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Dani on social media: IG: @daniroccamusic IG: @theworldinlights  TT: @danirocamusic  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Isolated within a world of a strict Independent Fundamental Baptist, Drew McCoy was more than invested in his beliefs. He would proselytize to anyone who needed God, even if it meant sacrificing his social status amongst non-believers. The closest he came to breaking the rules as a teen was hanging out with non-church friends who would smoke we*d in front of him.  A health scare drew him even closer to his faith and he attended a very strict Christian college that required even more time and devotion than his childhood. Everything came into question, however, when his family bought hard into Young Living Essential oils.  It became religion to them.  Drew did his research and found glaring issues with the founder, but when he confronted his family about it, they gave cultish responses that left him uneasy.  He had no idea that his entire reality was about to come into question.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Drew's Cult Leader confrontation Follow Drew on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic Drew’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/gmskeptic/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:46 Drew growing up as an Independent Fundamental Baptist 00:06:15 The IFB uses the Bible as historical and scientific evidence 00:10:21 Growing up as the "good kid" in Sunday school 00:13:10 13 year old Drew defends the bible at skate camp 00:17:31 What it was like for Drew being homeschooled and going to church youth group 00:22:27 Was Drew ever worried about going to Hell? 00:27:42 Drew didn't realize he was being indoctrinated with white supr*mecy propaganda 00:34:32 Drew wanted many chiIdren because of the Quiverfull verse 00:36:53 How the IBLP made an appearance in Drew's IFB experience 00:39:54 What college was like for Drew 00:44:32 When Drew started to feel that the environment may have been creating manufactured spiritual experiences 00:48:03 Drew explains "Collective Effervescence" 00:52:49 Drew's family's involvement in a pyramid scheme created a divide with him 01:07:56 Drew's re-interpretations of what he once knew to be "true" 01:15:19 Why Drew started his YouTube channel 01:22:59 Is Drew's wife still a Christian? 01:25:45 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Lebaron group fled the US after being excommunicated from the Mormon church for still practicing polygamy. While in Mexico, the group split and the Ervilite side started implementing blood atonement in an attempt to wipe out the other. Pamela Jones grew up in fear that the Ervilites would come for them any moment. To escape the extreme abuse, she got married at 15, not realizing she was entering into the Ervilite family. Her husband went on to marry 5 other women while keeping her and her family in forced poverty, even restricting water. Today we speak with two of Pamela's daughters who give us their perspective on the cult and fleeing to the US to start a new life. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch part 1 of Pamela’s interview Watch part 2 of Pamela’s interview Find Pamela! Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live Pamela’s book:  The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book Pamela’s Podcast:  Wicked Confessions Uncensored https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the Vampyre community that Father S was the head of, it was sometimes the case that the group rituals and spiritual practices were manipulated into something far more insidious. Khassa and Ashra describe what happened at the group ceremony called Babyl*n. They were each told something different by Father S about the intention of the ceremony concerning Khassa’s role. In the end, Khassa was severely compromised by him and left questioning everything.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Khassa + Ashra's interviews: https://youtu.be/R3SbSxyFews?si=JgIM7Uw8sLKM7l8C https://youtu.be/nivycAxCicE?si=du7_tIyQB03UNQTg Follow Khassa + Ashra on social media:  IG: https://www.instagram.com/liana_elizabeth_omar/ IG:  https://www.instagram.com/ashraduvide/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ashra was looking for a sense of community and understanding when she came into contact with Father S, the most public face of the Vampyre community. Eager to learn from him, she entered into a mentor/mentee relationship. Things would eventually devolve into conversations about sex magick and rituals that he wanted her to be a part of. She didn’t realize she was being groomed to be one of his many girlfriends. He would go on to tell her what to wear and confessed he liked dressing his girls like dolls. Ashra would also end up being exploited for her labor, expected to proofread and edit one of his manuscripts for free. After leaving and being lured back in, she would finally make her escape in 2024.  Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Ashra on social media:  IG: @ashraduvide  Watch Khassa and Ashra's follow up LIVE interview Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Growing up, Khassa’ Kaikesi's mother felt plagued by her abilities as a medium. Even though Khassa came from a long line of Magickal practitioners, when she started understanding her own gifts, she was left with no support and felt isolated. She was bullied for her practices and attended 4 different high schools because of it. Once introduced to Vampyrism, the spiritualism resonated and she found herself meeting “the face” and fang master of the Vampyre community, Father S. He quickly showed romantic interest, but Khassa tried to keep her distance as she sensed something was off about him. Serious about her practice and interested in building a community, she set aside her fears about him to help create the inner circle. After a few years, things would take a dark turn and lines between spirituality and self serving ego would be blurred, leaving Khassa as one of many women who would be taken advantage of in more ways than one. For the first time, Khassa steps into the light to expose the inner workings of Father S’s Vampyre community. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Khassa on social media:  IG: https://www.instagram.com/liana_elizabeth_omar/ Watch Khassa and Ashra's follow up LIVE interview: https://www.youtube.com/live/t3jPKLfNhKA?si=ZJ66QhPV88vtQFEc Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After 34 years of being abandoned, neglected, and brainwashed, Pamela Jones and her nine children escaped a fundamentalist cult out of Mexico and fled to a new life in the US. She had 2 cars and nothing more than $5 and two credit cards which she didn’t know how to use. Her biggest challenge was acclimating to a life of leadership and tasks she was never allowed to do in the cult. Getting the courage to order food at a drive through was her first huge undertaking. Pamela shares her struggles with helping her children learn in a public school, finding ways to feed and shelter her family, including almost joining an even more insidious polygamous group, and slowly finding her voice and value as a woman. She would go on to found a multimillion-dollar business, Exclusive Services by MyGirls, and has shared her story across the country to show how someone who came from nothing can truly have everything. Her family has grown to include 32 grandchildren, keeping Pamela busier, and more fulfilled, than ever. Watch part one (linked below) to learn more about her life growing up in isolation, hiding from a bl*od thirsty rival church and getting married off at 15 to escape her own familial abuse.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 Watch part 3 with Pamela and her daughters Find Pamela! Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live Pamela’s book:  The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book Pamela’s Podcast:  Wicked Confessions Uncensored https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:26 Discovering How To Live in America 00:10:14 Practicing Reading & Writing 00:15:12 The Order Cult Almost Recruits Pamela! 00:22:59 The Struggles of Putting Her ChiIdren in Public Education 00:28:17 Starting Her Business & How Her Influence Caused More Women to Leave 00:37:25 Deconstructing the Religion 00:43:53 Realizations After Leaving the Cult 00:51:11 The Steps Pamela Continually Took to Heal  00:55:56 CW: CSA from her brother 00:59:08 The Ways Cult Survivors Choose to Heal 01:04:53 The Beginning of Pamela’s Business & Where It's at Now 01:12:29 Finding Love After Being So Mistreated in Pamela’s First Marriage 01:23:40 Pamela's Shares About Her ChiIdren 01:29:50 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Pamela Jones was born in Los Molinos, Mexico to members of the Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Times,  a fundamentalist, misogynistic cult. She was the 11th of her abusIve father’s 57 biological children and 2nd of her mother’s thirteen children and it was from that moment on that Pamela held one single belief:  She existed for one reason and one reason only,  to be her eventual husband’s handmaid and to bear him as many children as possible.  Fast forward to age 10, Pamela was forced out of school to help her mom care for her 12 children,  giving her nothing more than a fifth-grade education. At age 15, Pamela married David Lebaron, the grandson of cult founder Alma Dayer LeBaron Jr.  and was pregnant 17 times in 18 years. After 9 childbirths and 8 miscarriages, Pamela felt she had enough children to make it to heaven, a fundamentalist belief. One day, she awoke her nine children to escape the neglect and ab*se from her husband, and make their way to the United States to start a new life. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch part 2 of Pamela’s interview Watch part 3 with Pamela and her daughters Find Pamela! Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live Pamela’s book:  The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book Pamela’s Podcast:  Wicked Confessions Uncensored https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:10:31 CW: Murd*r, Pamela Explains the Practices of Blood Atonement and How it Impacted Her ChiIdhood 00:15:08 Pamela Talks about the Raid on Los Molinos & Her Role of a Mother from an Early Age 00:22:15 CW: CA,  The Ways Pamela’s Father Controlled and Ab*sed Her 00:28:14 Pamela Shares More About Her Father  00:33:58 Pamela’s Father’s Reaction to Her Meeting Her Husband 00:39:30 How Quickly Pamela’s Husband Changed on Her 00:43:44 Pamela’s Husband's Actions and Infidelity 00:49:09 How Pamela Was Treated as a Polygamous Wife 00:54:16 Pamela Makes Plans to Leave Her Husband and the Cult 01:02:30 CW: Mentions of R*pe, Pamela’s Father Supports Her Against Her Husband 01:09:48 Pamela’s Escape Story 01:18:12 Pamela’s Experiences After Leaving Mexico & The Fear that Gripped Her 01:26:01 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Demetria is a survivor of an Oregon New Age group called TwinRay. She describes her journey into spirituality after reading Eckhart Tolle's works and being drawn to an online guru who claimed to have achieved spiritual liberation and later claimed he wasn’t even human. He introduced a woman (a former actress) to the leadership and claimed they were 'twin rays' with special spiritual knowledge. Demetria paid these self appointed Gurus $17,000 extra for life coaching and they put her on an all-fruit and charcoal pudding diet for 6 months, on top of charging $9,000 retreats where attendees were given a mysterious 'elixir’, later discovered to be DM.T. Once everyone was in an elevated state and under the influence, they would then make sales pitches for expensive products and future retreats. It was clear that the Twin Rays were living in luxury while their followers were exploited, used for labor, and not given a second thought.  Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Demetria on Substack: Demetriam.substack.com Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Feeling worthless as a young single adult in the Mormon church, Katie was sucked into a relationship with a “worthy priesthood holder” from her ward. Once he discovered her SA, a trauma that others were blaming and shaming her for, he claimed he could cure her using OneTaste’s Orgasmic Meditation. Vulnerable and left in the dark with all things sex related, he groomed her into thinking she needed these sessions with him to release her trauma. Unbeknownst to Katie, OneTaste was another cult who was pushing harmful ideas about SA, exploiting women and much worse. These harmful practices and ideologies combined with his predatory nature, led him to steal her virginity while she was unconscious having a seizure. He later admitted to purposely impregnating her so she would be forced to marry him. Barely 18, with no real support, Katie was left picking up the pieces while continuously being monitored and berated by the Mormon ran Brigham Young University’s honor code office. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Katie’s interview Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Born and raised in a Mormon majority town, Katie was doing her best to be the most righteous and worthy Mormon she could be. Everything came crashing down when she was blamed by her mother and shamed by her bishop for being SA’d. They claimed her “purity was tainted” and she needed to repent. Upon graduation, she went to the Young Single Adults ward, where she was primed to be targeted by a “worthy priesthood holder” who tried to lure her into an orgasm cult with promises to “fix” her sexual trauma. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 of Katie’s interview Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.* See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Amanda Rae joins us to talk about the ways in which her former polygamous cult weaponizes ignorance and purposely withholds information about reproduction to keep women submissive to their husband.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Pt 2 on Amanda's channel:  https://www.youtube.com/live/Q_vdflUQ69Y?si=oyE3eTaPp0QMpbim Find Amanda: YouTube:   @TheAmandaRaeGrant          IG: @amandaraegrant Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Daryl Davis has spent decades infiltrating and befriending not only Klan members but Klan leaders, even going as far as to attend their rallies. On a quest to do nothing more than explore racism and gather information for his book, Klan-Destine Relationships, Daryl Davis eventually became the recipient of numerous robes and hoods given to him by Klan members who rescinded their beliefs after coming to know him. He had inadvertently stumbled upon a successful method of forming friendships between sworn enemies. His methods have made him the center of controversy in some circles where he is considered “politically incorrect,” but after proving his methods work, he has made supporters out of his detractors. As a race relations expert, Daryl Davis has received acclaim for his book, Klan-Destine Relationships and his work in race relations from many respected sources including CNN, NBC, Good Morning America, The Learning Channel, National Public Radio, The Washington Post, The Baltimore Sun and many others. He is also the recipient of numerous awards including the highly prestigious Elliott-Black Award and the Bridge Builder Award presented by the American Ethical Union and Washington Ethical Society respectively, to name a few.  Filled with exciting encounters and sometimes amusing anecdotes, Daryl Davis’ impassioned lectures leave an audience feeling empowered to confront their own prejudices and overcome their fears, seeking to build a bridge and forge peace with their most unlikely adversaries. Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Daryl: IG:  @realdaryldavis  Website:  https://www.daryldavis.com/ Daryl’s book:  The Klan Whisperer Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:06:12 Daryl’s First Time Experiencing Rac*sm 00:10:43  The Question Daryl’s Tried to Answer His Entire Life  00:15:42 Daryl’s Thoughts of Why Someone May Join A Group Like the Kl*n 00:24:55 Daryl Shares About His First Positive Interaction with a Kl*n Member 00:33:39 Daryl Explains the Hierarchy and Organization of the Kl*n 00:38:15 Daryl’s Efforts to Interview Members of the Kl*n and Gives Some Definitions of Their Beliefs 00:42:57 Daryl Speaks on the State of Civil Rights for POC and Women in the US and Among the Kl*n 00:49:36 Daryl Tells of His Methods for Changing Peoples Perspectives & The Justifications Some Kl*n Members Use 00:55:55 Daryl’s Perspective On How to Change Someone's Faulty Perspective 01:02:43 Daryl’s Interactions with a Major Kl*n Leader and His Family 01:09:06 More Interactions with Kl*n Members and Some More Background on the Systematic Rac*sm in America 01:18:30  Why Daryl Still Feels Safe While Attending Kl*n Rallies and Events 01:23:36 The Significance of Cross Burning in the Kl*n and about Their Supposed Christian Faith 01:28:44 How Faulty Information Makes Its Way into Belief Systems 01:34:14 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Isolated in the Apostolic United Brethren, Janae’s father went unchecked when exploiting the nature of the religious group. With 4 wives and over a dozen children, he misused his power to control them all. “Life lessons” laced in traumatic experiences would leave the girls feeling helpless, scared and vulnerable without him, even when he was the true source of danger. Essentially acting as a cult leader within an already restrictive cult, Janae’s father took advantage of the system which had lasting negative effects.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Janae! IG: @janaedubose   Facebook: Janae DuBose  Book:  “In The Cult Next Door” Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 intro 00:04:07 How the AUB split from the mainstream LDS church 00:08:43 Hierarchy in the church and how Janae’s father affected their family's place 00:10:34 What Janae's father was like and how he got involved with the AUB 00:13:18 How Janae's father exploited AUB rules for his benefit 00:14:48 CW: CA Janae's father's man*pulation and ab*se tactics 00:25:31 Janae's mom's reaction to her chiIdren's ab*se and how the AUB predisposed her to marrying Janae's father 00:30:03 CW: CSA Janae's father's openness about his pred*tory behavior 00:33:05 How Janae's father's lack of self awareness led to a projection of his own feelings and issues 00:35:20 The use of other religious beliefs in the household 00:37:07 CW: SA How their father's ab*se affected the boys and their relationships with their sisters 00:40:06 The cycle of ab*se (or lack thereof) 00:41:43 The constant vulnerability in the house 00:43:22 Inability to understand AUB 00:46:57 Janae’s feelings on being a plural wife  00:48:54 Janae's mother's search for answers led them to mainstream Mormonism 00:56:03 CW: r*pe - Janae’s past left her vulnerable after escaping  01:01:41 Learning to stand in your power as a woman  01:04:13 How people from ab*sive situations can be targets for other ab*sers in the future 01:08:47 Finding safety in yourself and life after a cult 01:16:16 What makes Janae happy today 01:17:50 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the Apostolic United Brethren, a break off from the mainstream Mormon (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), polygamy is not only expected, but a requirement to get into the highest level of heaven per the original prophet Joseph Smith. Women are also expected to “multiply and replenish the Earth”.  In this 2nd part to Emily’s interview, she delves into what it was like getting married at the age of 17, realizing her father was in fact “evil”, her reaction to him rising up as “Prophet” of the AUB, as well as what her deconstruction process has been like, and what’s it’s been like speaking out in recent years.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Emily’s interview Watch Emily’s sister, Melanie’s interview Melanie’s live Find Emily on social media! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Good-Enough-444 IG: @good_enough_444   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks: 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:51 Emotional damage from purity culture after CSA 00:06:01 Was Emily pushed into getting married at a young age? 00:12:12 Emily's parents told her and her siblings they all lived polygamy in their own ways 00:16:08 How much Emily knew about s*x Ed and getting pregnant at 18 00:19:28 When Emily started to deconstruct 00:24:54 Has Emily discussed what happened to her with her chiIdren? 00:31:07 What made Emily decide to tell her story 00:37:13 The "Without a Crystal Ball" interview 00:39:34 What brings Emily joy now 00:46:53 Emily's kind words about C2C 00:50:41 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the Apostolic United Brethren, a break off from the mainstream Mormon (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), polygamy is not only expected, but a requirement to get into the highest level of heaven per the original prophet Joseph Smith. Women are also expected to “multiply and replenish the Earth”. Emily’s mother (the second wife) had 11 chiIdren and had to work 3 jobs to put what little food on the table she could. Even with the best of intentions and all the love she gave her chiIdren, it often left them hungry, delirious and malnour*shed. Emily was babysitting infants and toddlers at just 7 years old with no milk to properly care for them. On top of this, the man who would later become the prophet of the AUB, her father, would come home and rage on all his chiIdren. An emotional and physical tort*re that left them scared and scarred for years to come. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Emily on social media! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Good-Enough-444 IG: @good_enough_444   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:00 Emily explains the AUB 00:06:42 Rac*sm when it's convenient 00:12:19 Emily's family unit- How many moms/sister wives? 00:16:37 CW: Depictions of CA- How Emily's father treated his chiIdren 00:21:10 How their father's ab*se affected them long term 00:27:13 Did Emily's mother try to step in to help? 00:30:23 Core memory babysitting infants at 7 yrs old 00:35:39 Limited access to food 00:38:49 Effects of malnour*shment 00:40:21 CW: CSA- why there is a high rate of CSA in the AUB 00:51:13 Emotional dam*ge from purity culture after CSA See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Born in 1968, Sarito spent her formative years constantly on the move with her mother, a young hippie in search of spiritual meaning. At just nine years old, what was intended to be a brief summer trip to India took an unexpected turn. Sarito and her mother joined the ashram of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, transforming that fleeting visit into a seven-year journey within the commune—first in Pune, India, and later in the notorious city of Rajneeshpuram in Central Oregon. While in the commune, Sarito was submerged in a world where devotion and freedom clashed with man*pulation, s*xual misconduct, and neglect.  After the fall of Rajneeshpuram in 1985, sixteen-year-old Sarito was abruptly thrust into the “real world.” In her book “In the Shadow of Enlightenment” is the gripping story of Sarito’s chiIdhood inside the Osho Rajneesh cult—one of the most controversial spiritual movements of the 20th century. Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Sarito on social media: Sarito’s memoir “In the Shadows of Enlightenment”  Website: https://www.saritocarroll.com FB: https://www.facebook.com/saritoc IG: @saritocarroll  TikTok: @saritocarroll_author Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:59 How Life Has Been Since the Release Of Sarito’s Book 00:07:09 Sarito’s Family's Introduction to the Cult 00:10:52 The Beginning of Sarito’s Time in India as a ChiId & Some of the Cults Practices 00:17:50 CW: CSA, the Highly S*xual Nature of the Cult and the Attention Sarito Received 00:21:15 Specifics About the Cult Leader 00:25:59 The Cult Leaders Teachings on Materialism and Wealth 00:32:30 The Us vs Them Mentality of the Cult 00:36:58 CW: CSA, the Cult Settling into Oregon & the Beginning of Sarito Being Gr**med 00:41:54 CW: CSA, More Details About the Gr**ming Sarito Received 00:49:48 The Tumult of Growing Up without any Structure or Role Models 00:53:23 The Excellent Organization of the Commune & Its Settling in Oregon 01:00:50 The Stark Contrast in Wealth and The Cult Leader's Interactions with its Members 01:10:40 The Conflict Between Different Members of the Cult & The Demise of the Cult 01:15:58 Sarito’s First Steps Outside of the Cult at 16 01:21:54 Sarito’s Interactions with The Cult After Leaving and Publishing Her Book 01:28:43 Final Thoughts 01:31:06 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kevin James Thornton grew up in a small Christian town in Indiana. His early life started at a Baptist church, but once he discovered a Mega Church focused on rock bands and the youth, he became enamored and doubled down on his faith. A Jesus loving, self motivated chiId then teen, he loved his fully immersive church and heavily partook in extremely questionable youth events, but something inside himself felt wrong. Driven by his desire to fit in and “fix himself” he wouldn’t even allow himself to have the thought that he was gay.  He attended youth group bible study religiously and went to inner city parks in NYC dressed as “sin” clowns to perform “morality plays”. They even put on extreme HeII based haunted houses with graphic scenes played out by the youth.  Things started to feel grim for Kevin once the group graduated high school and the boys he had crushes on coupled up and got married, leaving Kevin feeling more alone than ever.  Always having buried who he really was, it wasn’t until he escaped to college and found himself in a new group within theater that the inner turmoil would subside.   Kevin dives into what it was like selling everything to move to LA to become a comedian, and how he blew up on TikTok during the pandemic by sharing his old bible study memories (with a splash of autotune). Click here to watch on YouTube Tour dates and tickets:   Websites: https://www.kevinjamesthornton.com/ https://www.shamalahamala.com/ Follow Kevin on social media: YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNQbKNgL8bcuH8z4pzh9flw IG: @kevinjamesthornton   TT: @kevinjamesthornton  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:04:24 Kevin's early church experiences as a southern baptist 00:06:58 How Kevin changed churches and why it appealed to him as a teenager 00:09:40 How this mega church appeared to be less conservative but doctrinally the opposite 00:10:50 What Kevin's parents thought about his dedication to church 00:12:14 What the messages were like at the new church 00:14:28 Youth group mission trips to inner cities 00:19:10 Messages from the church and the pressure to proselytize and bring more people to the church through events 00:22:35 Kevin's dissonance with his s*xuality 00:26:56 The story about home bible study during youth group 00:30:13 How people in the same situations can have different experiences 00:33:25 The mega church's haunted houses for Halloween 00:37:27 Kevin's feelings at the time on the haunted houses 00:39:06 When Kevin started to realize there were issues with his church 00:43:28 How seeing other gay people be acceptable helped Kevin accept himself 00:47:14 How his old youth group felt about Kevin's new life in college 00:49:56 How reaching out can make someone second guess the best path for themselves 00:52:17 Kevin's shift from his old life into the comedy scene 00:59:11 How an app and the pandemic changed Kevin's comedy 01:06:08 How Kevin is doing today 01:11:47 Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Many of you have gotten knocks on your door lately (us included) by the Jehovah’s Witnesses inviting you to attend their upcoming weekend long convention in July. Our friend Jake at @altworldly found a LEAKED copy of their propaganda and promised it would deliver in absurdity and disgusting takes on the “apostates” who have left the religion. Join us as Shelise blind reacts to these videos. Click here to watch on YouTube Part 1 of the stream Follow  @altworldly   Other video collaborations: Ex-Mormon and Ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare CULTure (ft.  @altworldly  ) Ex- Mormon and Ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare Doctrine (ft @altworldly) Fear of End Times: Ex-Jehovah's Witness Confessions ft. @altworldly An ex-Mormon and ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare Notes (w/ @CultstoConsciousness ) Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As a 4th generation Jehovah’s Witness, Alissa Watson followed the path laid out before her and married young at a month past 19. Against the recommendation of the doomsday cult, she had chiIdren. During the birth of her first chiId, a pool of lost blood scared her husband into looking into the doctrine of blood transfusions being a punishable sin. Unwilling to lose the life of his wife or baby during the next delivery, he confessed to his wife that he would not be following the blood doctrine if it came down to it. Alissa agreed, but had no idea it had sent her husband down a slow and secret path of deconstruction, until she confronted him about his absence in the church. Research of rampant CSA coverups, a wishy-washy governing body leader under oath and more left her shocked. Their exit out of the religion was messy and hurtful, leaving behind their entire family who refused to even look at them due to the strict practice of shunning. Click here to watch on YouTube Why I Left the Jehovah's Witnesses: The Truth Behind My Exit Find Alissa on Social: YouTube: @athomewithalissa IG: @athome_withalissa   TikTok: @athomewithalissa  Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code SHELISE at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/shelise Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:27 What it was like growing up as a Jehovah's Witness (pressures & disfellowshipping) 00:11:07 Why Alissa wanted to be homeschooled 00:13:16 Alissa meets her husband at 17 and doubles down on the religion 00:16:14 Dating as a Jehovah's Witness 00:18:33 The pressures of being a teenage girl having to get married 00:23:52 Alissa gets engaged, sins and thinks Satan is attacking her relationship 00:26:51 Jehovah's Witnesses discourage having chiIdren 00:30:43 The "no blood" rule causing a scare during birth 00:37:23 Alissa's husband starts secretly deconstructing 00:40:47 Was Alissa's husband filled with Satan?? 00:42:47 Why Alissa's testimony crumbled overnight 00:47:59 What it was like when Alissa and her family were shunned 00:57:31 Setting boundaries and making mental health a priority 01:06:09 Why Alissa decided to start speaking out on social media 01:14:53 How Alissa's life has changed for the better 01:18:34 Linda, Listen 01:20:40 Find and support Alissa! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

During WWII the horrific extermination of religious and ethnic groups forced people to denounce their faith and hail Hitler for their own survival. Owen Morgan, former JW and successful YouTuber  @OwenMorganTelltale  dove into the rabbit hole to extensively research the position and stories of the JW people at the time. He explains how Joseph Franklin Rutherford, the second leader of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, made an attempt to align with the Nazi regime to  maintain freedom of worship. However, he took things a step further, actively harming the witnesses and taking the religion in a cultic direction.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our initial interview with Owen: The Extremely Isolated Life of Growing Up Jehovah's Witness Find Owen on Social Media: YT: https://www.youtube.com/@OwenMorganTelltale IG: @owenmorgantelltale  Website:  www.owenmorgan.com Book: Was Hitler an Atheist?  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter marks: 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:09 Owen's motivation for researching the N*zi's treatment of Jehovah's Witnesses during World War II 00:04:26 Owen's reasons for leaving the church 00:06:36 German Christian national*sm and H*tler's connection to the Jehovah's Witnesses 00:10:53 Rutherford's letter to H*tler 00:12:10 JW's support of N*zism vs the well known rule of no politics 00:15:44 Frank's story as a JW  in N*zi Germany 00:21:24 Paul Balzereit's story 00:23:40 How JW's were forced into signing the declaration to H*tler 00:25:35 How Rutherford came into leadership and the changes he brought 00:31:51 Why Rutherford released the statement and the resiliency of JW members 00:37:44 Corruption in leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses vs Mormonism 00:41:15 Rac*sm in the Jehovah's Witness religion and Mormonism 00:44:46 Different schisms of Jehovah's Witnesses and their similarities with the main group 00:48:17 Word of wisdom hot drinks vs caffeine debate in Mormonism 00:51:44 How and why trivial religious rules and how they can dictate people's entire lives 00:57:21 Other recent changes to the religion 01:00:05 Financial holdings and corruption in the JW religion 01:07:17 Guilt and being a good person as a Jehovah's Witness 01:13:03 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bethany was raised in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, only to realize she had been part of a cult for thirty years. The psychological pressure cooker exploded in her 20s with quickly deteriorating mental health. The faux perfectionism drove her into an eating disorder as a means to gain any form of control over her life. When she could no longer pretend anymore, questioning authority and pursuing her personal freedom cost her, her devout family.  She now has a YouTube channel where she discusses the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ harmful policies. Today we are going LIVE with Bethany to further dive into how the Jehovah’s Witnesses completely ruined her relationship with her parents.   Click here to watch on YouTube Watch the initial interview here   Find Bethany on social media: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bethanyleger website: www.bethanyleger.com YT: https://www.youtube.com/@stoptheshunning IG: https://www.instagram.com/bethanylegerwriter Bethany’s book: Physically In, Mentally Out: Navigating Your Exit From Watchtower The best way to reach her is via email: [email protected] Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bethany Leger was raised in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, only to realize she had been part of a cult for thirty years. The psychological pressure cooker exploded in her 20s with quickly deteriorating mental health. The faux perfectionism drove her into an eating d*sorder as a means to gain any form of control over her life. When she could no longer pretend anymore, questioning authority and pursuing her personal freedom cost her, her devout family.  She now has a YouTube channel where she discusses the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ h*rmful policies. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Bethany on social media: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bethanyleger website: www.bethanyleger.com YT: https://www.youtube.com/@stoptheshunning IG: https://www.instagram.com/bethanylegerwriter Bethany’s book: Physically In, Mentally Out: Navigating Your Exit From Watchtower The best way to reach her is via email: [email protected] Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks: 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:25 Defining the Jehovah's Witness religion as a cult-like group 00:06:02 What Bethany's family was like growing up 00:11:08 Core beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses 00:15:23 Bethany's gut feelings about the church and the obligation to fulfill duties 00:23:20 CW: ED Developing h*rmful behaviors and realizing how being a JW makes Bethany really feel 00:25:21 CW: ED Bethany's experience in high school that led her to evaluate the Jehovah's Witnesses 00:38:45 What Bethany's mom did to keep her in the religion 00:41:16 Bethany's parents' conflicting values and where that confusion ultimately led her 00:46:26 How self policing kept Bethany as a Jehovah's Witness after high school 00:49:30 The tension in Bethany reaches a breaking point CW: su*cid*l ideation 00:51:54 The last time Bethany stepped foot in a Kingdom Hall 00:58:29 The moment that changed Bethany's perspective forever 01:02:02 CW: SA Jehovah's Witness SA cases in Australia 01:03:12 CW: SA The two witness rule and how it allows rampant ab*se to fester for years 01:06:10 Barbara Anderson's story 01:13:59 New changes to how shunning works 01:19:09 How Bethany is doing now 01:22:51 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Melanie and Cory grew up in the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) at the Montana compound. They wouldn’t  meet, however, until long after leaving the cult and all their family behind. Almost a polygamous wife, Melanie had a horrible arranged marriage at a young age and did whatever it took to get out and become free. Now, we look at what happens when a funeral brings them both back to the compound to face estranged family members as apostates. How did their families react to them now that they have a YouTube channel exposing the AUB? Tune in to find out!  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Melanie’s initial interview Follow Melanie on Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@NotestoSelf444 IG: @Notestoself444  https://www.tiktok.com/@NotestoSelf444 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

One of the polygamous offshoots of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) where the famous Kody Brown and Sister Wives come from. Melanie grew up in this group with 4 mothers and 34 and counting siblings. Her Father was an apostle when she was growing up, but would go on to become the prophet. A position that is said to commune directly with God and Jesus themselves. The highest calling on Earth. Melanie and her siblings were shocked when such an ab*sive man would be given such a sacred calling. Melanie, destined to become a plural wife herself, would have to put up with her spouse courting a 16 year old girl while she was pregnant! She lived a life full of grief and pain and void of real romantic love, until she gained the courage to escape and leave her entire family and community behind.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Melanie and Cory in our LIVE interview Follow Melanie on Social Media: https://www.youtube.com/@NotestoSelf444 IG: @Notestoself444  https://www.tiktok.com/@NotestoSelf444 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:36 Why Melanie Started Sharing Her Story; Her ChiIdhood 00:08:07 Melanie’s Father Had a Favorite Wife and How it Impacted Her as a ChiId 00:16:40 Specifics about the AUB and Melanie’s First Marriage 00:22:42 Melanie’s First Husband, and How Her Mother Taught Her Not to See Race 00:25:39 CW: CSA, SA, Beginning of Melanie’s First Marriage & How She Avoided Getting Pregnant 00:30:55 CW: Mentions of Self-H*rm, Melanie Shares How Marriage was as a Teenager in the AUB and How It Impacted Her 00:38:15 What it Was Like Dating Her First Husband and a Potential Plural Wife 00:46:28 CW: CA, Melanie’s Faith Crisis After Her Father Became an Apostle & Her First Time Leaving the AUB 00:52:35 Returning to the AUB for A Time After Her Son was Born 00:56:03 Getting Divorced and Meeting Her 2nd Husband 01:05:47 Melanie’s Deconstruction & Her Father Becoming Prophet of the AUB 01:11:04 Shocking Information about Her Best Friend 01:18:15 Melanie’s Life Now and the Progress She's Made 01:27:06 Final Thoughts and What Brings Melanie Joy 01:29:40 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Shannon Foley Martinez was a vict*m of CSA at age 14.  Never quite able to meet her parent's expectations, Martinez sought out other angry teens. By 16 she was a sk*nhead spouting white supremac*st rhetoric, giving stiff-armed N*zi salutes and tagging public property with swast*kas. Fortified by the love of an adopted family, Martinez left the sk*nheads behind, and today is committed to devoting the rest of her life to helping dismantle the culture of white suprem*cy, as well as helping others find their way to the other side of a life of hate. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Shannon on Social Media:   IG: @shannon_foley_martinez Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code SHELISE at https://incogni.com/shelise and get 60% off an annual plan. Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:03:27 Shannon's chiIdhood and vulnerabilities that led her to joining a Neo N*zi group 00:12:06 How sports helped Shannon 00:15:34 How moving during a vulnerable developmental age effected Shannon 00:24:39 What high school was like for Shannon 00:28:35 A night that changed Shannon's life at 14 00:30:42 CW: r*pe How Shannon's traum*tic experience at a party led to h*rmful behaviors 00:35:34 Shannon's mom blamed her for be v*ctimized 00:43:32 How Shannon's undirected anger led her to the wrong crowd 00:49:16 How rac*sm come into play for Shannon 00:55:15 What a woman's role in the movement looks like 01:00:50 How Shannon found her way out See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Shannon Foley Martinez was a victim of CSA at age 14.  Never quite able to meet her parent's expectations, Martinez sought out other angry teens. By 16 she was a skinhead spouting white supremacist rhetoric, giving stiff-armed Nazi salutes and tagging public property with swastikas. Fortified by the love of an adopted family, Martinez left the skinheads behind, and today is committed to devoting the rest of her life to helping dismantle the culture of white supremacy, as well as helping others find their way to the other side of a life of hate.   Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1:  https://youtu.be/SjlWNeLPKtA?si=4h-zGqOrC_ePCIx- Find Shannon on Social Media:   IG: @shannon_foley_martinez Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:54 Resetting living in a safe environment 00:10:58 What made Shannon change her perspective 00:17:14 How Shannon's college experience opened her eyes to new information 00:23:05 Having chiIdren changed Shannon’s outlook & goals 00:33:32 Breaking cycles with Shannon’s chiIdren and grandchiIdren 00:37:09 Setting healthy boundaries and figuring out appropriate expectations 00:42:29 Boundaries with adult chiIdren in the home 00:45:37 Shannon's continued healing journey and coming to peace within herself 00:56:17 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Christian Picciolini found himself stumbling through high school, struggling to find a community among other fans of punk rock music. There, he was recruited by a notorious white power sk*nhead leader and encouraged to fight with the movement to "protect the white race from extinction." Soon, he had become an expert in rac*st philosophies, a terror who roamed the neighborhood, quick to throw fists. When his mentor was sent to prison, sixteen-year-old Picciolini took over the man's role as the leader of an infamous neo-Naz* sk*nhead group. Seduced by the power, he accrued through intimidation, and swept up in the rhetoric he had adopted, Christian worked to grow an army of extrem*sts. He used music as a recruitment tool, launching his own propag*nda band that performed at white power rallies around the world. But slowly, as he started a family of his own and a job that for the first time brought him face to face with people from all walks of life, he began to recognize the cracks in his hat*ful ideology. Then a shocking loss at the hands of rac*al viol*nce changed his life forever, and Picciolini realized too late the full extent of the h*rm he'd caused. Click here to watch on YouTube Check out Christian’s books: christianpicciolini.com “White American Youth": whiteamericanyouth.com "Breaking H*te”: breakinghate.com Find Christian on social media: IG: @cpicciolini  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:33 How Christian was vulnerable to recruitment and thus got involved 00:12:12 American History X and its parallels to Christian’s experience 00:13:41 The moment that Christian realized v*olence equaled power 00:17:30 How Christian went from going along with the ideologies to really believing them 00:19:39 What the goal of the movement was 00:22:50 Christian's double life participating in the movement while also playing football 00:26:12 Christian's experience with a black body guard in high school 00:33:13 The facade begins to fade after Christian's recruiter goes to prison 00:36:32 How their h*te for others was rooted in their h*te for themselves 00:38:40 Why and how women join these groups 00:41:55 How these groups self contain their ideas and how it warps member's perception of reality 00:45:35 Christian's marriage and its fallout gave him the freedom to leave the movement 00:51:48 Christian non-linear path to healing and how meeting someone from his past changed his future 01:00:11 The importance of accountability in healing 01:02:27 Where Christian is today and what brings him joy 01:05:15 What Christian's relationship is like with his sons and how they feel about his past 01:12:11 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A Happy Mother’s Day to everyone tuning in! This is an honest conversation between a mother and daughter about the crippling expectations placed on mothers in high control groups. Lisa explains her experience growing up in Mormonism which shaped her view of her options after high school and directly led her to becoming a young mother leaving her dreams behind. Shelise chimes in about what she remembers the messaging being as a young girl in Mormonism and explains the pros and cons of raising a child outside of a high demand religion. Click here to watch on YouTube Connect with Lisa! Business IG: @spiritofottertail https://www.instagram.com/spiritofottertail?igsh=MWFtdTdodHZ5aDFiOQ== Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code SHELISE at https://incogni.com/shelise and get 60% off an annual plan. Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 000:00:00 Intro 00:03:47 Shelise's Special Announcement... 00:04:25 Lisa's early years attending Young Womens 00:05:28 The only option for a woman was to be a wife and mother 00:12:14 What the crossroads of career vs marriage was like for Lisa 00:16:44 Are Utah Mormons different than Mormons from other states? 00:21:25 The pitfalls of the church pressuring young people to get married 00:28:37 Parenting is already hard enough-- what the extra layer of guilt & shame was like for Lisa 00:31:35 The discusses her own break downs 00:34:51 The chaos of Lisa getting the chiIdren ready for church, and to show up presenting perfect 00:39:50 The pressures of a Mormon mom when it comes to their children's actions 00:44:06 Lisa's thoughts on sending her kids on a Mormon Mission 00:47:01 Things that made being a parent difficult while Mormon 00:52:17 Lisa's regrets as a Mormon mom 00:54:25 Shelise opens up about her beliefs and raising chiIdren in a religious state 01:04:14 Lisa's thoughts on the after life 01:05:47 What is the cost of Mormon salvation? 01:12:12 How Lisa feels about the less strict parenting rules the church has now 01:18:20 Final thoughts 01:26:35 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From a desperate mother in poverty to an American Romani family, Amanda had no trace of who she was. All of her documents were either destroyed or hidden and any trace of her biological mother was gone. Her life was a paradox of luxury coupled with ab*se and isolation. Kept out of school and othered for being adopted, she felt completely alone. Amanda was pushed into an arranged marriage which turned into another nightmare. Find out how she escaped. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Amanda: IG: @redpandasattack93  YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@RedPandasattack93?si=CtRqmiGBKbbrglnq Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:29  How Amanda Came Across Cults to Consciousness & Decided to Share Her Story 00:05:42 CW: Traff*cked as an infant; Issues of Not Having Documentation 00:10:34  Background on Amanda’s Biological Mother & Some of Her Health Issues 00:14:00 CW: CA, CSA, Amanda Shares Her Most Prominent ChiIdhood Memories 00:19:57 Amanda Explains Some of the Romani Foundational Beliefs & Practices 00:24:07 CW: CA, DV, Amanda’s Observations of Ab*se Amongst the Romani People 00:28:34 CW: CA, DV, SA, CSA, Details About Amanda’s Father's Targeted Ab*se & Control 00:30:48 Romani Marriages & How Amanda Rebelled Against Her Own 00:35:58 How Amanda Was Deprived A Traditional Education & Her Efforts to Learn 00:40:44 The Materialism of The Romani & The Control Amanda Was Subject To 00:44:28 What the day to day looked like for Amanda and her family 00:47:02 Amanda Gives Examples of How the Romani Make Their Living 00:51:25 CW: Marital R*pe, SA, Amanda’s First Marriage Within the Romani Community 00:59:12 CW: DV, Amanda’s attempts to Leave Her Marriage And Turning to Alcohol to Cope 01:05:10 CW: Suic*de Attempts 01:08:34 What Makes Amanda Happy Now That She's Out 01:12:17 How Amanda Was Finally Able to Leave the Cult & Meeting Her Now Partner 01:16:32 How Amanda’s Brother Showed the Same Traits as Her Father 01:20:51 Final Thoughts & Amanda’s Hopes for Her Family 01:24:28 Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In our previous interview, Gina exposed many ways in which she was trained from birth to scam as a fortune teller. Some of the schemes her family ran on unsuspecting or vulnerable people garnered over $100k. Gina explained how the American Romani family she was a part of, was not living up to the beautiful culture of her persecuted people, but were greedy, ab*sive and scammers. Forced to become one herself, or be beat*n for her noncompliance, she had no other choice but to succumb to their demands. However, once she got pregnant from an outsider, she knew in order to save the life of her chiId, she had to escape. Today we will talk about her life after running away from her family and how the made it in the world with no education past 12 years old.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Gina's initial full interview here:   https://youtu.be/lFD7FaWWWY4?si=gok4dXhuhM_HB_O9 Find Gina:   Book:  Shay Bari IG: @_shaybari  Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_ShayBari Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Gina Merino grew up in California with a very strict family which identifies as “Gypsies”. Her life was strictly controlled and she experienced harsh ab*se at the hands of her step mother. At elementary age, before being pulled out of school, she would begin telling fortune, understanding she was lying to people, but had no other choice. She uncovers ways in which her and her family scammed people out of thousands of dollars. When her father revealed a deep secret to his wife and family, both him and Gina were immediately treated like garbage. Gina was stuck, isolated in the family until years later when she made a daring escape and never looked back.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Gina:   Book:  Shay Bari IG: @_shaybari  Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_ShayBari Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code SHELISE at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/shelise Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:56 The specific Romani group that Gina came from 00:06:20 How Gina feels about using the G-word to refer to her people 00:08:08 Stand out memories for Gina 00:10:05 How Gina reacted to getting pulled out of school 00:11:09 Why it was important to be pulled out of school 00:13:56 How Gina was taught to scam at an early age 00:20:30 How Gina felt having to lie at an early age 00:23:50 The biggest scam Gina witnessed 00:29:52 Growing up with an abus*ve stepmother 00:38:21 Gina's father comes out as gay and it changes the course of her life 00:41:44 Gina's last words to her father 00:46:18 Gina was forced to go back 00:51:53 Gina is in a painful place, and is put on a strict diet 00:53:31 Gina is forced back to fortunetelling 00:59:37 Gina plots her escape 01:11:16 "I just needed more hugs" 01:14:22 Did Gina ever make contact with her family again? 01:15:56 What brings Gina joy now 01:19:44 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Born a Romani girl in the US, in a very insulated group, Paulina Stevens had her future laid out for her. She was set in an arranged marriage to her cousin at 14 years old and after her dowry was paid, her new family claimed they “owned her”. Things got dark and possessive very quickly and no one would help her. After having chiIdren and realizing she needed to escape, she would spend years fighting back against threats, legal battles and now the indoctrination of her own chiIdren by their father and his family. She still cherishes parts of the Romani traditions and educates people in the culture.  Click here to watch on YouTube Book:  Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling Website:  https://www.romanistanpodcast.com/ Instagram: @_paulina_v_ Podcast IG: https://www.instagram.com/romanistanpodcast Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:28 Background on the Romani, Early Memories 00:07:52 CW: Mentions of R*pe, C Marriages, Cultural History of the Romani People and How it Still Affects Them 00:11:04 Paulina’s ChiIdhood and How She Was Denied a Traditional Education 00:16:27 Fortune Telling, and Traditional Aspects of her Romani Group 00:22:19 External Pressures That Led to Paulina to Get Married as a Teenager 00:27:27 Double Standards in Paulina’s Romani Community and the Control They Impose Over Women 00:32:54 CW: SA, Stark Differences Paulina Experienced in her In-Law's Family 00:37:45 The Pressure To Have ChiIdren and Paulina’s Family's Involvement in Her Parenting 00:41:25 Why She Decided To Leave Her Community & Her Experiences Fighting for Custody 00:48:00 Paulina’s Struggles Fighting for Custody 00:51:14 How Paulina’s ChiIdren Are Being Influenced By the Romani Community & How She Stays Involved in Her Heritage 00:54:22 How Paulina was and Still is Negatively Treated by some in the Romani Community 01:01:28 Paulina Shares About Her Life Now 01:05:16 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we are joined LIVE by former Independent Fundamental Baptist Eric, of the show @preacherboys, to discuss the Bible Baptist Church. It has a decades-long history of hiring, supporting, and protecting individuals credibly accused or convicted of sexual abuse and other serious crimes, especially against children. The church’s leadership, particularly Pastor Doug Duffett, has repeatedly minimized, concealed, or excused offenses, often blaming victims and discouraging transparency or outside intervention.  We will dive into the list of notable abusers and church response, the institutional cover-up Tactics, the sermon excerpts illustrating leadership attitude, as well as the key examples of abuse and the institutional response. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our original interview with Eric here Find and support Eric! Website: https://www.preacherboyspodcast.com/ YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoys FB: https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/ IG: @preacherboysdoc TikTok: @preacherboyspod  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW:  CA, ED.  What happens when religion and power collide in the wrong hands? At Grenville Christian College, once one of Canada’s most prestigious private religious schools, the result was thousands of broken lives.  Once ranked amongst Canada’s elite boarding schools, the impressive facade hid a far darker truth. Just three years after its opening, the college fell prey to the “Mothers” — leaders of a Cape Cod commune that would turn GCC into an institution of paranoia that brainwashed, abused, and terrorized its residents for decades. Staff and students alike were forced into terrifying “light sessions” where they were publicly attacked for their sins. Cruel punishments that demoralized and demeaned were commonplace, keeping residents captive to their shame — by a cult that was hidden in plain sight. The first “staff kid” to be born at GCC, Beth Granger was removed from her parents’ care at the age of 4, because they were deemed too sinful to raise her. When she was only 5, the leaders declared war on Beth’s “sin” of gluttony.  It would take her three decades to muster the courage to escape. Six years after leaving, she helped spearhead a lawsuit against the school lasting 16 years, and won! Click here to watch on YouTube Find Beth on Social media: website:  www.bethgranger.ca IG:  @happygranger  Book/Audible: Born and Razed  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks: 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:20 Beth filed a lawsuit– the first historical ab*se case to go to trial in Canada– and won 00:08:21 Beth's early years with the school, and how the Mothers took over 00:14:24 Where the Mothers learned their technique 00:19:30 The types of Christianity this school was based on 00:21:14 How they intentionally separated chiIdren from their families 00:25:37 CW:  Beth was denied pay after she confessed her eating d*sorder 00:31:08 Who the chiIdren were actually being raised by and the types of environments they fostered 00:33:34 How harsh the pun*shments were for misbehaving 00:38:35 Beth's banishment to another country as pun*shment 00:43:03 The beautiful facade that hid pun*shing mind control tactics 00:45:23 Confessions for normal human emotions that were rooted in self-h*tred 00:46:56 Beth escapes the mind control 00:47:53 Beth's marriage prospect and how an injury led to her physical escape 00:51:06 What it was like for Beth to be in the outside world for the first time 00:54:23 How Beth became part of the lawsuit and how it progressed her healing journey 00:56:59 How normalized h*rmful behavior can take years to unlearn and unpack 01:00:56 How Beth met her partner 01:01:49 TW: ED - Beth's journey with heaIing and therapy  01:04:36 TW: ED - Beth's experience with therapy (continued)  01:07:44 How writing her book helped Beth trust people again 01:10:49 What it means for Beth to be open about her story and how sharing it has helped others 01:11:34 What brings Beth joy and peace today 01:13:11 TW: ED 01:14:46 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Institute in Basic Life Principles, run by the predatory Bill Gothard, would turn thousands of families into their own isolated cults. Matthew Castle was trapped in his own family until his mid twenties. Shielded from the outside world and musically stifled, his talent on the violin was so impressive, multiple colleges including Juilliard tried recruiting him as a young teen. However, without choice in the matter, those dreams were quickly torn away. His mother was so strict and controlling, she even drove him to and from a local college ensuring he wasn’t led astray by the evil world. When she found his personal journal, revealing his sexuality, she immediately sent him to a cult approved conversion therapy conference. Learn how Matthew finally escaped, acclimated to the real world, and eventually found the love of his life– Paul.  Click here to watch on YouTube Streaming platforms: Matthew Castle YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MatthewandPaulOfficial Instagram:  @matthewandpaul  Paul’s books:  https://paulcastlestudio.com/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:04:48 What Matthew's early education was like and how his parent's got involved in the Advanced Training Institute 00:06:10 How the "Umbrella of Authority" and other IBLP teachings changed the family's way of thinking 00:10:41 Matthew's s*xuality and the dichotomy between his feelings and what he was being taught 00:14:34 Music in the IBLP movement and how even some classical composers were taboo 00:17:52 How even classical music was a tie to the secular world for Matthew 00:20:24 How Bill Gothard's beliefs prevented Matthew from attending the most prestigious music schools in the country 00:26:18 Matthew's experiences at the IBLP institutes 00:28:11 Matthew's opinion of Bill Gothard and the favoritism in the group 00:29:01 Bill's pr*datory nature towards young women 00:31:31 Bill's near fat*l encounter with Matthew's father 00:33:30 The discovery of Matthew's journal and the beginning of the end 00:37:31 Matthew's experience at a conversion conference 00:41:42 Matthew's last straw and how he escaped 00:43:24 What it felt like to leave and how Matthew started to discover himself 00:48:22 Paul enters the chat! 00:49:26 What it was like for Matthew to starting dating and meeting his partner Paul 00:56:23 What secular things Paul has introduced to Matthew 01:01:01 How Matthew has learned to identify his feelings and communicate after leaving IBLP 01:03:59 What brings Matthew joy today 01:06:38 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Louise Roberts grew up in a strict LDS (Mormon) household where the messages of apostles’ quotes would echo throughout. One of them being “if you are ever in a position to be r*ped, ask to be k*lled.” Her mother was not aware that she had already been h*rmed as a chiId. This led to feelings of worthlessness and shame which had her seeking love and acceptance from boys in her school. When she found herself pregnant at 15, we discover how the LDS church handled it despite her and her family’s wishes. A tale of rejection, perseverance and resilience.  Click here to watch on YouTube Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:35 Louise’s Family and Her Devout Mormon Upbringing 00:12:17 More of Louise’s Mormon Upbringing & Deciding to Cut Ties With Her Mother 00:16:00 Louise’s Defining ChiIdhood Memories 00:21:50 Louise Becomes Pregnant at 15 00:27:19 Louise Experience with LDS Family Services and Why She Didn't Give Her ChiId Up for Adoption 00:31:28 Louise Talks About The Religious Repercussions of Getting Pregnant 00:40:00 TW: CSA, Quotes from "The Miracle of Forgiveness" that Louise’s Mother Used to Teach Her 00:45:42 Toxic Situation with Her Mother and with the Church 00:56:44 Navigating Life After Having a ChiId, and Her Mother's Pressuring Her to Get Married 01:00:11 The Pressure and Judgement Her Mom Put on Her and Her Husband 01:09:25 Deconstructing Her Previous Faith 01:14:59 Finally Being Able to Make Friends After Her Faith Deconstruction 01:22:54 CW: CSA, Louise Shares A Few More Details About Her Family 01:27:44 Louise’s Life Now and Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After 25 years of being a devout Mormon, when Lexi started questioning her faith, she had no support other than the online content made by ex-Mormon creators.  When her father saw that she responded to and agreed with an ex-Mormon social media post, he snapped at her to keep her mouth shut about her opinions.  This was the moment that fueled her to start her own ex-Mormon YouTube channel, and so Exmo Lex was born. Since then, the last 6 years as a content creator have been quite the ride.  Each week she’s furthered uncovered the discrepancies in the Mormon church, all while on her own deconstructing journey.  From dealing with hate comments, to being disowned by her husband’s parents… today Exmo Lex dives into the Darkside of creating ex-Mormon content, and why she’s now choosing to step away. Click here to watch on YouTube Exmo Lex’s goodbye video:  I’m "Quitting" Ex-Mormonism Find Exmo Lex on Social media! YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@ExmoLex TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@exmolex TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nossravi TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thelittle.estfarm Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:22 Why Exmo Lex decided to start making ex-Mormon content 6 years ago 00:07:24 What led Exmo Lex to leave Mormonism 00:11:04 The CES Letter, and it's impact on Mormons starting their faith crisis 00:18:53 How Exmo Lex decided on her specific brand of ex-Mormon content  00:21:47 The darkside of being a content creator 00:26:23 Exmo Lex on being an Ex Mormon content creator while still deconstructing 00:32:11 How Exmo Lex's family felt about her creating ex-Mormon content 00:43:04 Exmo's favorite response to "the members aren't perfect, but the church is" 00:45:31 Exmo Lex's biggest "I can't believe I didn't know that about the church" moment 00:50:50 When Exmo Lex decided to give up creating ex-Mormon content 00:52:46 What it would take for Exmo Lex to get one video out a week 01:01:44 What Exmo Lex will focus on now 01:06:47 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In a church that requires confessions from ages as early as 8, to an untrained, inexperienced, randomly appointed man, it leaves a lot of room for a potential ab*se situation. In Taylor’s case, she developed scrupulously (religious OCD) and felt compelled to repent of every single thing that would be seen as a sin by the LDS church. Her bishop further took advantage of her, asking for explicit details of her intimate life with her boyfriend, including over text message and in his own home. This type of clergy ab*se is not the standard, but unfortunately not uncommon. Taylor describes living with this condition and the immense guilt and shame that followed her into her mission and beyond.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and Support Taylor!  IG: @taylormaydemassage  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks: 00:04:53 Taylor’s ChiIdhood & Her Family's Relationship with Mormonism 00:12:33 Some Background Information on the Mormon Church 00:16:17 Taylor’s Traumat*zing Experiences with One-On-One Interviews & Her Relationships as a Teen 00:22:07 CW: CSA, Eating D*sorders, More About Taylor's Experiences with Her Bishop and The Beginnings of Religious OCD 00:29:45 Taylor’s Conflicting Feelings Surrounding The Mormon Church 00:36:17 CW: SA, Taylor Opens Up About The Details Surrounding Being S*xually As**ulted 00:40:36 CW: SA, Taylor Shares Her Experience Being Blamed For Being As**ulted Coupled with Religious Guilt 00:46:20 More About Taylor's Guilt and Her Experience Leaving The Church 00:49:35 Taylor Shares The Doctrinal Foundation for Her Religious OCD 00:52:26 Taylor’s Church Leader's Opinion on Her OCD Diagnosis & More About Leaving the Mormon Church 00:59:02 Taylor Describes How Her Mormon Mission Contributed to Her Leaving The Church 01:05:14 Taylor Shares About Her Self-Exploration and Decisions Made After Leaving the Church 01:08:33 Taylor's Journey and Healing with Religious OCD 01:14:04 Final Thoughts & Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join us with the amazing husband and wife team, Sam and Melissa from   @GrowingUpinPolygamy   as they blind react to plot points of the Handmaid’s Tale and tell us all the ways some of these exact things were and ARE still happening in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  Click here to watch on YouTube YouTube:  @GrowingUpinPolygamy   Website: https://www.growingupinpolygamy.com/ Instagram: @growing_up_in_polygamy  Email: [email protected] Resources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunities If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.org Holding Out Help: https://holdingouthelp.org/ Short Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Learn about the shocking similarities between the “Shiny Happy People” documentary cult which is the Institute in Basic Life Principles and the FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints)! Joining the conversation is husband and wife team Sam and Melissa from Growing Up in Polygamy.  Click here to watch on YouTube YouTube:  @GrowingUpinPolygamy   Website: https://www.growingupinpolygamy.com/ Instagram: @growing_up_in_polygamy  Email: [email protected] Resources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunities If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.org Holding Out Help: https://holdingouthelp.org/ Short Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

An expert witness for Amish and Mennonite court cases, Lizzie explains the rules of her intense settlement before taking us through her unbelievable story of disaster, lethal betrayal, tragedy, abandonment and perseverance. She even gives us a glimpse of the strange dating practice which takes place in the woman’s bedroom. Decades later she seeks justice against the Bishop who groomed and ab*sed her as a young girl. She updates us on his attempt to escape even the small sentence he was given as well as speaks on other cases she was a part of in which Amish women were targeted and harmed by sinister perpetrators. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Lizzie 1st interview Resources: https://www.theplainpeoplespodcast.com/resources Her book: “Behind Blue Curtains: A True Crime Memoir of an Amish Woman’s Survival, Escape, and Pursuit of Justice” Website: https://www.lizziehershberger.com/ IG: @lizzie.hershberger   Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:05:47 Recap of Lizzie's story- how her chiIdhood affected her life for better or worse 00:08:56 Each Amish community is different 00:11:06 How pr*dators can thrive in Amish communities 00:14:16 How a p*rpetrator who reports themselves to Amish authorities can get a lighter sentence 00:15:59 The consequences of a lack of education on consent in the Amish community 00:18:17 The definition of "adult" in the Amish community 00:21:19 How ab*sers can seemingly get away with their crimes with little to no punishment 00:24:38 What it means to be on probation 00:30:03 What going back to court and facing her ab*ser was like for Lizzie 00:32:21 How meaningful it can be to have supporters for victims in the courtroom 00:34:39 The real life impact of C2C and spreading awareness 00:38:58 Receiving supportive messages from those positively impacted from Lizzie sharing her story 00:40:39 Amish vs English dolls and why they're different 00:42:30 Becoming a victim advocate and helping others as they're going through court processes 00:47:17 The language barrier between the Amish and English people and how we can better aid victims by understanding the differences 00:47:55 CW: SA 00:50:41 How a lack of English medical practices was detrimental to over 400 victims 00:54:00 Lizzie's experience going back into the community for a funeral 00:57:41 The difficulties of trying to help those in need when it has the potential to put yourself in a triggering situation 01:03:47 What did Lizzie wear to an Amish funeral as someone who is no longer in the community? 01:07:58 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Former Amish, Eli Yoder, broke the news that several Amish men contacted him after being outed by the Emergency Test Alert. Some Amish communities allow cell phones, while other more strict communities still forbid them.  Eli, is known for helping smuggle phones into these communities to better connect them with resources and help. He stated, "Some Amish men got shunned by the Amish Church for having smartphones in their pocket when the emergency alert system went off."  Click here to watch on YouTube Eli’s 1st interview:  When Depression is Considered SIN in the Old Order AMISH (ft. Eli Yoder)  Eli’s 2nd interview:  Old Order AMISH: Devastating Effects of ZERO S*x Ed Before Marriage (ft. Eli Yoder) Find and Support Eli! Eli’s book -  Undeceived: From Amish Tradition to Christ’s Redemption Website: Eliyoder.com YouTube:  @eliyoder491   TikTok: @YoderToter40  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eli.yoder.33 Resource for current Amish who need help:  https://amishrescuemission.org/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Having left the Old Order Amish 27 years ago, Eli Yoder, has helped 200+ people flee the Amish community.  In today's episode, we discuss the consequences of leaving the Amish, how his mother demanded he never return, and ultimately how his fan base helped soften his mother, and the discussion they recently had when he paid her a visit.   Click here to watch on YouTube Eli’s 1st interview:  When Depression is Considered SIN in the Old Order AMISH (ft. Eli Yoder)  Eli’s 2nd interview:  Old Order AMISH: Devastating Effects of ZERO S*x Ed Before Marriage (ft. Eli Yoder) Find and Support Eli! Eli’s book -  Undeceived: From Amish Tradition to Christ’s Redemption Website: Eliyoder.com YouTube:  @eliyoder491   TikTok: @YoderToter40  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eli.yoder.33 Resource for current Amish who need help:  https://amishrescuemission.org/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter marks 00:04:01 Eli explains the Old Order Amish 00:07:03 Why Eli wanted to leave the religion 00:13:18 How Eli escaped the Old Order Amish 00:16:38 How affection is s*xualized within the Amish community 00:22:15 Consequences of leaving 00:31:08 Eli's mother cuts him off 00:41:12 Eli reflects on the reconciliation with his mother 00:49:48 Amish Traditions Eli Still holds onto 00:50:53 Eli’s book: Undeceived: From Amish Tradition to Christ’s Redemption 00:55:29 Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rachel Clinesmith found herself in Los Angeles in the middle of an entire scene dedicated to Vampyres; a lifestyle she would come to love. Head of the Vampyres is a man who named himself Father S, making custom fangs for his followers. Father S established a Vampyre religion, with him as prophet who claims to syphon energy from his Vampyre balls and offer it up to an entity. Becoming part of his inner circle, Rachel reveals the occult practices and rituals, and exactly what happened in his invite-only balls.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Rachel's full interview on YouTube Find and support Rachel! IG @swampophile  TikTok @swampophile  Linktree  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Growing up in what she would describe a misfit lifestyle, Rachel found comfort in the goth scene. Her makeup artistry took her to Los Angeles where she found an entire scene dedicated to Vampyres; a lifestyle she would come to love. Head of the Vampyres is a man who named himself Father S, making custom fangs for his followers. He established a Vampyre religion, with him as prophet who claims to syphon energy from his Vampyre balls and offer it up to an entity. His invite-only occult practices and rituals were not the only dark thing about him. Aside from countless women coming forward with SA claims, Rachel was used for her time, labor and money while working for him. He would go on to take everything from her, which is why she is choosing to speak out.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Rachel! IG @swampophile  TikTok @swampophile  Linktree  Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As a child, Michelle Dowd grew up on a mountain in the Angeles National Forest. She was born into an ultra-religious cult—or the Field as they called it—started in the 1930s by her grandfather, a mercurial, domineering, and charismatic man who convinced generations of young male followers that he would live 500 years and ascend to the heavens when doomsday came. Comfort and care are sins, Michelle is told. As a result, she was forced to learn the skills necessary to battle hunger, thirst, and cold; she learned to trust animals more than humans; and most importantly, she learned how to survive in the natural world.  At the Field, a young Michelle lives a life of abuse, poverty, and isolation, as she obeys her family’s rigorous religious and patriarchal rules—which are so extreme that Michelle is convinced her mother would sacrifice her, like Abraham and Isaac, if instructed by God. She often wears the same clothes for months at a time; she is often ill and always hungry for both love and food. She is taught not to trust Outsiders, and especially not Quitters, nor her own body and its warnings.  But as Michelle gets older, she realizes she has the strength to break free. Focus on what will sustain, not satiate you, she tells herself. Use everything. Waste nothing. Get to know the intricacies of the land, like the intricacies of your body. And so she does.  Using stories of individual edible plants and their uses to anchor each chapter, Forager is both a searing coming-of-age story and a meditation on the ways in which understanding nature can lead to freedom, even joy. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Michelle: Subscribe to Substack Pick up a copy of Forager: Field Notes for Surviving a Family Cult  IG: @michelledowdz  https://www.michelledowd.org/ We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:02 The Familiarity She Had with "The Field" & Why Her Family Moved There 00:06:17 The Organization Her Grandfather Started & All Its Rules 00:12:48 How The Cult's Teachings Still Stick with Her Today & It's Effect on Her Mother 00:18:00 Michelle Talks about the Healing that She Got By Being With Her Mom at the End of Her Life 00:22:35 Michelle’s Connection With the Earth 00:25:51 CW: CA, Michelle Mentions Her Father's Abuse and How Sickness Led to Her Growing More Independent 00:29:56 Michelle Talks about Being Hospitalized and Discovering She Had an Autoimmune Disorder 00:33:12 Michelle’s Time in the Hospital & Her Education from Reading the Bible 00:39:59 The Cult's Proselyting Methods, Beliefs About Christianity, & Fundraising 00:45:30 CW: Brief Mentions of Suic*dal Thoughts, Michelle Shares the Complicated Experiences Surrounding Her First Romance 00:51:20 Michelle Shares Her First Experiences Outside the Cult & Her Life Now 00:55:44 Michelle's Final Thoughts & Linda Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After an incredible interview with former gang member, Sosa Henkoma, we are going LIVE today with him to further discuss his time in prison.  We're diving into how he was repping the gang who betrayed him while in prison, how he navigated the system as a gang member, and how he found out through therapy that he was groomed. Further discussing the ways he had to deconstruct his past and see it in a new perspective. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Sosa's initial interview here  Find Sosa on social media: www.instagram.com/sosa_est www.instagram.com/escaperoutes_uk/ https://linktr.ee/sosa_est We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sosa Henkoma was 8 when he ran away from v*olence at home.  At 9 he was groomed by a gang in the UK, drawn into dr*g traff*cking while feeling abandoned in foster care.  He recounts the moment he had a shotg*n pointed to his head at 11 during a raid.  On this 12th birthday, just released from the hospital after being st*bbed, we has given his own shotg*n, and a bulletproof vest.  Trapped in a life of crime for the next decade, he ran g*ns and dr*gs between London and Liverpool, becoming known as “The Devil Walking on Earth”.   Sosa says said he counts himself lucky to still be alive after he was st*bbed at least 11 times and shot at twice.  It was only after Sosa was convicted and imprisoned that authorities deemed him to be a victim.  He describes how fatherhood, therapy and sheer luck saved him. Click here to watch on YouTube Find Sosa on social media: www.instagram.com/sosa_est www.instagram.com/escaperoutes_uk/ https://linktr.ee/sosa_est We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:04:45 Sosa's early years in Nigeria 00:05:51 Sosa moved to the UK at 8 to live with his father (was still not able to know him) 00:08:22 CW: CA - Sosa's stepmom became abus*ve 00:12:27 The events that led to Sosa leaving the abus*ve household 00:17:54 What it was like in UK foster care 00:19:52 How Sosa learned about gang culture 00:24:12 Sosa was useful for his bike 00:26:25 Meeting the elders 00:29:23 Hierarchy and dr*g business within a gang, explained 00:34:16 11 year old Sosa didn't know that he was helping sell dr*gs 00:35:27 Sosa explains what "banking" meant (not what you think) 00:39:17 11 year old Sosa gets raided by a rival gang 00:40:23 Sosa gets a sh*tg*n pointed at his face at 11 y.o. 00:44:42 Sosa starts year 7 at school, while having to watch out for his life 00:49:49 Sosa learns to shoot a g*n 00:53:21 CW: Gang related injuries at 12 00:54:57 The trauma of being in a gang; disassociation 00:58:19 CW: The worst of what Sosa saw and experienced 01:01:54 Sosa gets nick named at 16, The Devil Walking on Earth 01:03:25 Sosa was sentenced at 13 years old 01:04:01 When Sosa got out of prison at 16, he went to war with the elders 01:07:45 Sosa was set up to go to prison again 01:08:57 Sosa faced being deported 01:09:53 Sosa learns he was groomed, and is dealing with trauma 01:14:14 The residual trauma Sosa deals with now 01:15:21 What do those still in the gang think of Sosa speaking out? 01:19:31 Sosa's advocacy work 01:23:15 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW:  Incestuous CSA, CA, DV- As a child, Aziza Kibibi was isolated at home with her siblings by her abusive father, who would viciously SA and impregnate them to create what he called “blue blood” children.  Aziza would endure years and years of horrendous ab*se at the hands of her father, who impregnated her 5 times.  CPS got involved and took her other children away.  Things came to a head when Aziza’s father impregnated her again, kidnapped her and the rest of the family, while she was in labor and forced Aziza to drive to Florida (the state he was born in) to deliver her baby in a tent. Aziza fought for her children, while embroiled in a court case with her father that would ensure he received maximum sentencing for his crimes.   Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 here:  https://youtu.be/difM2Gl5WMI?si=_IPNAstBSKvxfOpF Find Aziza on social media: IG: @azizakibibi  https://linktr.ee/1azizakibibi Donate to Aziza’s Non profit to help end CSA - Precious Little Ladies: PreciousLittleLadies.org We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:14 Aziza Gives Background on Her Father & His Ab*se 00:08:48 Aziza Breaks Down the Isolated & Confusing Environment Her Father Created 00:12:07 Aziza's Living Situation with her Father, Siblings, & ChiIdren & Psychological Conditioning 00:15:36 Aziza Shares her "Micro-Agressions" & Ways of Asking Outsiders for Help 00:20:43 The Unhelpful Case Worker & Other Difficulties Regarding Her ChiIdren 00:28:50 Aziza's father kidn*ps her and the family, heads to Florida for her to give birth in a tent 00:35:49 Aziza’s First Time Standing Up to Her Father And Educating Herself 00:40:40 The Court Process Aziza Endured to Have Her Father Pun*shed 00:45:52 Aziza's Father Finally Gets Caught by Law Enforcement & Aziza's Rough Road Through the Legal Process 00:51:47 The Drawn Out Legal Proceedings & How Her Father Always Found Ways Back Into Her Life 00:55:14 Aziza’s Advice for Surv*vors & About The People Who Helped Her in the Courtroom 00:58:45 How Aziza Got Back On Her Feet 01:03:45 Aziza’s Organization & All the Efforts They Are Involved In 01:09:34 Final Thoughts and Linda, Listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW:  Incestuous CSA, CA- Aziza Kibibi was isolated at home with her siblings, homeschooled, yet with impeccable education compared to her cousins. Her father began to introduce ways of life that would cause chaos, ab*se and pain. He declared modern medicine and doctors would not be used, even for his wife who would go on to have 11 children. He implemented polygamy and brought girlfriends around the house, even having children with them. He used his children for labor to build a home in the New Jersey winter. Worst of all, he started to SA his daughters, claiming that’s just what fathers did; purposely impregnating them to create what he called “blue blood” children. Aziza survived years and years of horrendous abuse at the hands of her father and now she helps to educate parents on CSA prevention. A true warrior.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 2 here:  https://youtu.be/difM2Gl5WMI?si=FMLV4peinYqirTsI Find Aziza on social media: IG: @azizakibibi  https://linktr.ee/1azizakibibi Donate to Aziza’s Non profit to help end CSA - Precious Little Ladies: PreciousLittleLadies.org We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:44 What Aziza's life was like before her father became ab*sive 00:09:06 How Aziza's father led the family to a polygamist lifestyle 00:13:40 How different religions affected Aziza's family 00:15:23 Aziza's education, social interactions, and health are impacted by her father's control 00:22:03 CW: s*xual ab*se Excuses for ab*se were made from the very beginning 00:23:42 CW: s*xual ab*se 00:25:28 Aziza's father moves the family to an unfinished house away from family 00:31:18 Pregnancy in Aziza's family and giving birth at home- without proper medical care 00:33:01 How Aziza's mother reacted to the ab*se 00:33:51 CW: s*xual ab*se 00:39:24 Aziza's life with her siblings and chiIdren in one home as a chiId herself 00:44:10 Aziza's birth experience 00:48:26 CW: s*xual ab*se 00:49:52 The first escape attempt 00:57:34 Health issues begin to appear in Aziza's chiIdren 01:02:24 Aziza's family moves out of their house and to southern New Jersey 01:04:01 ChiId services gets involved 01:14:35 Aziza finally has the opportunity to get help 01:19:32 Aziza gets a lawyer and is finally reunited with her chiIdren 01:23:01 Aziza's crash course in life that led to her foundation 01:31:13 Linda, listen See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the early 2000s, after years of hard work and determination to break through as an actor, Bethany Joy Lenz was finally cast as one of the leads on the In the early 2000s, after years of hard work and determination to break through as an actor, Bethany Joy Lenz was finally cast as one of the leads on the hit drama One Tree Hill. Her acting career was set to soar, but her personal life was beginning to unravel in ways her fans could never imagine. Unknown to the millions of viewers and even her costars, Lenz led a secret double life within a cult. As an only chiId seeking belonging, Lenz thought she found a safe haven in a Bible study group with fellow Hollywood creatives. However, the group morphed into something more sinister—a web of manipulation and fear under the guise of a church covenant called The Big House Family. Piece by piece, Lenz surrendered her autonomy, eventually moving to the Family’s Pacific Northwest compound overseen by a domineering minister who convinced her to marry his son and secretly drained millions from her TV income without her knowledge. Family “minders” assigned to her on set, “Maoist struggle session”—inspired meetings in the basement of a filthy house, and regular counseling with “Leadership” were just part of the tactics used to keep her loyal. Only when she became a mother did Lenz find the courage to escape and spare her chiId from a similar fate. After nearly a decade (and with the unlikely help from a devoted One Tree Hill fan), she broke free from the family’s grip, beginning her healing journey from deep trauma that reshaped her faith and identity. The One Tree Hill star opens up about everything in her New York Times bestselling memoir, Dinner for Vampires. ⁠Click here to watch on YouTube⁠ Watch Part 1: ⁠https://youtu.be/idrKmytaYdU?si=DCq0RJtPQXHnjuYW⁠ Find Bethany Joy Lenz & her book:  ⁠www.instagram.com/msbethanyjoylenz/⁠ ⁠https://linktr.ee/bethanyjoylenz⁠ We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! ⁠Click here to go to the official booking page⁠ Subscribe to our⁠ C2C "CLIPS" Channel!⁠ Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. ⁠Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!⁠ Patreon ⁠https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness⁠ Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram ⁠@cultstoconsciousness⁠  Host Instagram ⁠@sheliseann ⁠ Co Producer / Host ⁠@jonathan.rosales_ ⁠ TikTok ⁠@cults.to.consciousness ⁠ Twitter ⁠@cultstocon⁠  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** NO CHAPTER MARKERS AVAILABLEhit drama One Tree Hill. Her acting career was set to soar, but her personal life was beginning to unravel in ways her fans could never imagine. Unknown to the millions of viewers and even her costars, Lenz led a secret double life within a cult. As an only chiId seeking belonging, Lenz thought she found a safe haven in a Bible study group with fellow Hollywood creatives. However, the group morphed into something more sinister—a web of manipulation and fear under the guise of a church covenant called The Big House Family. Piece by piece, Lenz surrendered her autonomy, eventually moving to the Family’s Pacific Northwest compound overseen by a domineering minister who convinced her to marry his son and secretly drained millions from her TV income without her knowledge. Family “minders” assigned to her on set, “Maoist struggle session”—inspired meetings in the basement of a filthy house, and regular counseling with “Leadership” were just part of the tactics used to keep her loyal. Only when she became a mother did Lenz find the courage to escape and spare her chiId from a similar fate. After nearly a decade (and with the unlikely help from a devoted One Tree Hill fan), she broke free from the family’s grip, beginning her healing journey from deep trauma that reshaped her faith and identity. The One Tree Hill star opens up about everything in her New York Times bestselling memoir, Dinner for Vampires. ⁠Click here to watch on YouTube⁠ Watch Part 1: ⁠https://youtu.be/idrKmytaYdU?si=DCq0RJtPQXHnjuYW⁠ Find Bethany Joy Lenz & her book:  ⁠www.instagram.com/msbethanyjoylenz/⁠ ⁠https://linktr.ee/bethanyjoylenz⁠ We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! ⁠Click here to go to the official booking page⁠ Subscribe to our⁠ C2C "CLIPS" Channel!⁠ Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. ⁠Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!⁠ Patreon ⁠https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness⁠ Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram ⁠@cultstoconsciousness⁠  Host Instagram ⁠@sheliseann ⁠ Co Producer / Host ⁠@jonathan.rosales_ ⁠ TikTok ⁠@cults.to.consciousness ⁠ Twitter ⁠@cultstocon⁠  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** NO CHAPTER MARKERS AVAILABLE See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the early 2000s, after years of hard work and determination to break through as an actor, Bethany Joy Lenz was finally cast as one of the leads on the hit drama One Tree Hill. Her acting career was set to soar, but her personal life was beginning to unravel in ways her fans could never imagine. Unknown to the millions of viewers and even her costars, Lenz led a secret double life within a cult. As an only chiId seeking belonging, Lenz thought she found a safe haven in a Bible study group with fellow Hollywood creatives. However, the group morphed into something more sinister—a web of manipulation and fear under the guise of a church covenant called The Big House Family. Piece by piece, Lenz surrendered her autonomy, eventually moving to the Family’s Pacific Northwest compound overseen by a domineering minister who convinced her to marry his son and secretly drained millions from her TV income without her knowledge. Family “minders” assigned to her on set, “Maoist struggle session”—inspired meetings in the basement of a filthy house, and regular counseling with “Leadership” were just part of the tactics used to keep her loyal. Only when she became a mother did Lenz find the courage to escape and spare her chiId from a similar fate. After nearly a decade (and with the unlikely help from a devoted One Tree Hill fan), she broke free from the family’s grip, beginning her healing journey from deep trauma that reshaped her faith and identity. The One Tree Hill star opens up about everything in her New York Times bestselling memoir, Dinner for Vampires. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Pt 2:  https://youtu.be/jUuqpRd0t_Q?si=E4oDhrdQ5_HBH4xt Find Bethany Joy Lenz & her book:  www.instagram.com/msbethanyjoylenz/ https://linktr.ee/bethanyjoylenz We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:00 Joy Dives into Her ChiIdhood and Early Religious Experiences 00:07:41 Joy Explains the Way Being an Actress Affected Her Religious Life 00:13:16 Joy’s Very Positive Experience with a Home Church in New York 00:18:25 Joy’s Introduction to the Home Church Cult in LA & Red Flag Moments 00:24:14 Joy Expounds on the Cult's Manipulation & Giving Up Her Autonomy 00:29:39 Joy Shares How She Changed and How Others in Her Life Reacted 00:34:01 Joy Shares Her Balancing of Religion and Acting and Discusses Mormonism With Shelise 00:40:07 Joy Talks About Cult Behaviors, Hierarchies, & Need for Control 00:44:56 Joy Shares Her Perspective on Fear 00:50:33 Linda, Listen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Joined again today in studio with Amanda Rae ( @TheAmandaRaeGrant  ) we compare and contrast what it was like growing up in The Order Vs Mormon. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch our last live streams here: https://www.youtube.com/live/zxeJbi0B76Q?si=uMsA6iXifjvnYx-a https://www.youtube.com/live/Wc3DK44vP38?si=XvElYTPZxGvYQ4jy Find Amanda! YouTube:   @TheAmandaRaeGrant     IG: @amandaraegrant Resource for help leaving polygamy https://holdingouthelp.org/ Remove your records from the LDS church Quitmormon.com We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when you marry your niece and half sister when you reproduce?  Amanda Rae walks us through the shocking realities of incestuous polygamous with offspring. Click here to watch on YouTube Click here to watch the live we did on Amanda’s channel immediately after! Find Amanda! YouTube:   @TheAmandaRaeGrant     IG: @amandaraegrant Resource for help leaving polygamy https://holdingouthelp.org/ Remove your records from the LDS church Quitmormon.com We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Going deeper on the shadows within the incestuous polygamy of the Kingston Clan Cult and answering questions you left in the comments! Join us live for priority. We can't wait to have a culty chat with you! Click to watch on YouTube Catch the original interview here: Part 1:  https://youtu.be/TYXd6KEutIM Part 2: https://youtu.be/tFCzKyaN12w Find and support Amanda! YouTube:   @TheAmandaRaeGrant     IG: @amandaraegrant We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

With an early chiIdhood in Somalia, Magan Magan moved to Australia with his mother, who would lie about his father and wrongfully keep them apart. Her narcissistic tendencies combined with the power Islam gave her over her chiIdren, would lead to emotional, spiritual and even physical ab*se. Under it all, Magan was grappling with the reality that he was gay, in an extremely homophob*c household where gay people were seen as sub-human and worthless. Understanding that in Islam, it’s written that gay men should be unalived by horrible means. He wouldn’t come to make his own decisions until around 26 years old and finally lean into his true self and find happiness outside of his mother’s grasp.  Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Magan: Magan’s collection of poems “Stop All the Clocks” Inner self rising podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/@maganmagan9422 Instagram:  @innerselfrising  Resource for those leaving Islam and need help:  https://www.freeheartsfreeminds.com/ We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks  00:00:00 Intro 00:03:14 Magan's ChiIdhood & Leaving Somalia 00:07:01 Magan Introduces His Mother's Narcissistic ab*se 00:12:10 Magan Speaks on the Islamic Teachings His Mother would Weapon*ze Against Him 00:16:09 CW: CA 00:18:23 Turning 15 and Discovering Sexual*ty 00:22:21 Magan Talks About Being Gay as a Teenage Muslim 00:25:57 Magan Talks About The Danger of Being an Apostate 00:27:19 CW: Religious v*olence 00:29:22 Magan shares more about his mother's need for control 00:33:18 Magan's Mother Loves making herself a vict*m 00:35:58 Magan's Long Road to Freedom 00:38:40 Magan Loves the Taste of His Newfound Freedom 00:41:26 Magan Recognizes Inconsistencies in the Quoran 00:44:41 Magan Shares about growing up in a single parent household 00:48:36 Magan Discusses Forming His Own Moral Philosophy 00:53:14 Magan's First Kiss as a Gay Man 00:57:19 Magan On Where He is Now, and What the Future Holds 01:02:47 Magan's "Linda Listen" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Joined by ExMuslim content creator Infidel Noodle, we discuss the tragic events that lead to the murd*r of Muhsin Hendricks who was the first openly gay Imam (islamic religious leader).  Click to watch on YouTube Watch "Why This Gay Man Wasn’t Allowed to Make His Own Decisions Until 26" Find Infidel on social: YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@InfidelNoodle IG: https://www.instagram.com/infidel.noodle/ Resource for those leaving Islam and need help:  https://www.freeheartsfreeminds.com/ We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After enduring extensive clergy ab*se at the hands of her community’s trusted imam in her own home (detailed in part 1), Layla’s family gave her as a young bride to a 37 year old man. Rather than reporting the imam for the CSA, her family kept it a secret so it wouldn’t affect the marriage prospects for Layla and their other chiIdren. The man she was given to was extremely ab*sive in every way, keeping her captive in her own home by not allowing her to have keys or gate fobs, or access to a phone. Every action was monitored and he weaponized their Islamic religion, using it as permission to continuously hurt her. Click here to watch on YouTube Watch part 1 here Support Layla YouTube: https://youtube.com/@I_am_not_your_sister?si=9lmUX36MAvhmkgkR We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter  Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:26 TW: Married at 15 -Layla's official marriage 00:12:42 TW: R*pe-Layla's wedding night 00:15:08 Layla's expectations as a young bride 00:22:22 How Leah's husband reacted when she told him about the ab*se she went through 00:25:36 How Layla escaped her marriage 00:33:16 Layla starts to deconstruct Islam 00:43:11 How Layla is doing now 00:46:53 Linda, Listen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A young girl raised as a Jehovah’s Witness by a strict and ab*sive mother, ends up living on the streets before converting to Islam. The family she ends up with is honored that the Imam (Islamic religious leader) chose her to “tutor”. Using religious loopholes and justifications, the Imam gives her $1 to claim her as his plural wife which led to SA under the roof of her own home. Their family was so afraid of their reputation and repercussions, they kept the ab*se a secret and protected the pred*tor. Speaking out anonymously, she has chosen the name Layla.  Click here to watch on YouTube Support Layla YouTube: https://youtube.com/@I_am_not_your_sister?si=9lmUX36MAvhmkgkR Click here to watch on YouTube Check the pinned comments on YouTube for the Daily Mail article. Catch Jared and Ashley's Mormon Stories interviews: Jared and Ashley Jones Pt. 1 | Ep. 1767 Confronting the Mormon Church - Jared and Ashley Jones Pt. 2 | Ep 1768 We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:03 How Layla chose her alias 00:10:12 When Layla started becoming distant from her abus*ve mother 00:14:47 Layla's time at a homeless shelter 00:19:19 Life after the homeless shelter and introduction to Islam 00:25:30 How Layla met her “husband” 00:30:59 TW: S*xual abuse-Layla's abus*ve marriage to an older man 00:37:18 Layla's escape from her abus*ve marriage 00:46:29 Layla tries to expose her abus*r 00:53:03 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nazreen Bibi was born and raised in the UK in a Mirpuri Sunni Muslim household. During her chiIdhood she was sent off to learn the verbatim account of the Quran, which included teachers who threat*ned v*olence and aggression using kitchen utensils and mullahs based in a semi.  Nazreen’s parents insisted on putting a headscarf on her, and during her secondary school years she would take the scarf off during school hours and put it back on when school finished.  On her 16th birthday she had hopes of completing A levels and going to university however her parents had other plans.  Instead they travelled abroad to Pakistan, and Nazreen was married to her mother’s cousin (her uncle), someone she knew nothing about.  She recalls asking her mother if she could say no and her answer was “no, your grandad gave his word” and that was that.  Soon after her marriage, her mother told her that she was to do whatever her husband wanted and that if she refused s*x the devil would curse her all night.  Nazreen soon became pregnant and gave birth to her daughter at age 17. The following 12 years, Nazreen spent fighting for freedom, freedom to work, freedom to have phone and freedom to wear what she wanted to wear.  Fueled with anger at the end of her twelve-year marriage, she could see how religion and culture shaped her parents’ choices and world view, and how the teachings of Islam demanded the total subjugation of women.  Nazreen’s parents stopped talking to her after her divorce and so she rebuilt her life as a single parent.  Her experience only confirmed what she had now grown to accept in that Islam was designed by men for men. Divorced women were deemed as used goods, a women’s identity and personhood reduced to her reproductive parts and womb.  Since her divorce she’s been actively engaged in local politics, completed her degree and runs her own business. Now an exMuslim, Nazreen recently has come out as an atheist, speaking out against the generational religious ab*se  Click here to watch on YouTube Find Nazreen on social media! https://www.tiktok.com/@grumpymirpuri Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The father of a 13 year old CSA perpetrator confessed to their Mormon Bishop about his son’s transgressions, the multiple counts of CSA.  Not only were their parents not notified, the multiple counts were not reported to the authorities, as mandated by California law.  The boy was still allowed to go to church and other church activities, where other youth would knowingly be present.  Some of the CSA was committed during these church activities, which could’ve been prevented.  Jared and Ashley Jones join us to discuss the mishandling of the perpetrator and how the church and the community mistreated them after speaking up about the SA of their 3 year old daughter.   Click here to watch on YouTube Check the pinned comments on YouTube for the Daily Mail article. Catch Jared and Ashley's Mormon Stories interviews: Jared and Ashley Jones Pt. 1 | Ep. 1767 Confronting the Mormon Church - Jared and Ashley Jones Pt. 2 | Ep 1768 We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Joined by attorney Kolby Reddish, we discuss the case of Chelsea Goodrich, a former Mormon woman who endured years of CSA by her bishop father.  In this video we will break down how the Mormon church ultimately ended up protecting the perpetrator, rather than helping Chelsea in court.  Click here to watch on YouTube Check the pinned comments on YouTube for the AP News article. Watch our interviews with Chelsea here: pt 1: https://youtu.be/4Og2KRQpjqU?si=dq3OUpsyPsDVm_Ct pt 2: https://youtu.be/XNEHgeat3iQ?si=FMUmt8DwfQyKy_q_ Check out our "Mormonism on Trial" interviews with Kolby:   Mormon Church SUED for Not Reporting Unspeakable Confessions (the Verdict) Mormonism On Trial: Ex-Mormon Lawyer Challenges Truth Claims How a Mormon Lawyer Lost His Faith Ft. Kolby Reddish We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Social worker, Michael Benjamin, learned that a member of the LDS church, of which he also belonged, had put a registered s*x offender into a position of power.  Upon confronting leadership, he was silenced and punished.  Sadly, the perpetrator reoffended with a youth from their ward.  He is now serving time in prison for it.  Join us to hear directly from Michael about this story.  Click here to watch on YouTube Check the pinned comments on YouTube for the daily mail article. Find Michael on IG @michael_c_benjamin Visit https://floodlit.org/ We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Church is meant to be a place of comfort, solace and peace. However, when a church controls their members using fear and manipulation, even when someone didn't do anything wrong, such as a survivor of SA, it creates extreme issues of safety for that person. Today we speak with Kris Hillberg who was given a disciplinary council and disfellowshipped from the LDS faith for a brutal attack when she was only 18 years old. There is so much to discuss when it comes to feeling safe to report, when there is truly no support system for what the LDS church would consider "sins". Click here to watch on YouTube Watch the full deep dive episode with Kris here Find Kris on IG @kristjana_hillberg  Check out her Podcast called "I F*cking Knew"  We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Daily Mail article written by Miles Dilworth, exposes 5 cases of SA that were grossly mishandled by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In doing so, it clearly presents a pattern that illustrates the LDS church cares more about its reputation and its image than it does its members' safety and wellbeing.  We will discuss what the article presents about each case and our thoughts as it pertains to cults and mind control manipulation.  Click to watch on YouTube Link to article pinned in the youtube comments. Live with Kolby Reddish discussing in depth the Arizona case mentioned We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Going in depth with former guest and current lawyer Kolby Reddish to further discuss and understand how the LDS church got away with protecting a C S A offender for years. Click here to watch on YouTube Check out our interviews with Kolby:   Mormonism On Trial: Ex-Mormon Lawyer Challenges Truth Claims How a Mormon Lawyer Lost His Faith Ft. Kolby Reddish We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Deep in the archives of Mormon (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) history, you will find the dark stain of blood atonement. Rather than the sacrifice of Jesus being enough, some sins were too great and would have to be paid for by your own m*rder to gain salvation in the afterlife. Led by a history academic, Julia with  @analyzingmormonism   on instagram, we go through the ways in which early LDS leaders taught and practiced blood atonement. Also covered, are the ways current fundamentalist leaders still implement the horrific practice. Click here to watch on YouTube Follow Julia! IG @analyzing.mormonism TikTok @analyzing.mormonism YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@analyzingmormonism We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:02 Where and from whom Julia finds this information about Mormonism 00:06:21 Who could be blood atoned? What does it mean? 00:09:53 what is blood atonement 00:10:53 When the practice of blood atonement began and why bloodshed was required 00:11:27 Quotes from Joseph Smith Jr. referencing blood atonement 00:11:53 JOSEPH SMITH QUOTE 00:14:11 Sidney Rigdon taught about Blood Atonement 00:14:45 Temple ceremony blood atonement language & mimicking 00:17:05 Shelise found out about the secret gru*some temple penalty at 17 00:23:09  Brigham Young on B.O. equating baptism 00:24:53 Brigham Young on how to handle a cheating wife.... 00:28:39 How the Journal of Discourses created Utah culture 00:34:18 Victims of the Blood Atonement as listed in the book Wife No. 19 00:37:28 CW: Graphic race driven m*rder  00:38:34 The Oath of Vengeance in the temple ceremony 00:40:54 Additional names of victims 00:42:17 1889 manifesto addressing blood atonement 00:44:48 What the church today says about blood atonement 00:46:51 Was Warren Jeffs from the FLDS building a B.O. room in the temple? 00:51:05 Blood atonement in the LeBaron sect 00:54:18 Why what the Mormon church acknowledges about blood atonement is not enough 00:57:16 The Book of Mormon as a historical document vs a book of tales 01:00:01 Linda, listen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Anneke Lucas was born in Belgium where, at the age of 6, she was sold by her mother to a s*x traff*cking p*dophile network for European elites.  Her family’s cleaning lady ab*sed and gro*med her before colluding with a relative to pimp her out to the exclusive club for dr*g-fueled orgies. She would continue to be ab*sed and tortur*d as a s*x slave for years.  She had never gone to police with her claims because she was scared into silence after watching kids getting k*lled by members as a "warning" to others.   Anneke Lucas survived some of the worst atrocities known to humankind before the age of 12.  After living in London, Paris and New York as a young adult, she moved to Los Angeles where she began therapy, yoga and meditation. Today, she is the founder and Executive Director of Liberation Prison Yoga, a non-profit organization based in New York.  Now an advocate for other survivors, Anneke openly speaks about her experience.  A story that truly emphasizes the power of hope, we dive into Anneke’s story, and healing journey. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Anneke: website: https://annekelucas.com book: https://store.bookbaby.com/book/quest-for-love1 instagram:  @anneke.lucas  We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** NO TIMESTAMPS AVAILABLE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As a follow up to her incredible interview, we are joined today again by Lydia Knight, who grew up in a pioneer stock Mormon (LDS) family, but layered on top of that was a twisted, fabricated reality that her father was actually the leader of a Satanic cult who had violently abused her as a baby.  Lydia’s mother said she had received revelations of these horr*fic things and Lydia’s grandmother capitalized on this by gaining love and adoration from the LDS church members by appearing as a savior to the ab*sed children. Kidnapped from Lydia’s father by her mother at 2 years old, she was told he was always searching for her so he could continue his Satanic practices.  Not only was Lydia dealing with these imposed traumas, she was told if she ever broke the rules of Mormonism or told someone about her past, her whole family would be tracked down by the Satanists and killed. Fear and terror ruled her life until she finally decided to look for the evidence. What she found crumbled her entire reality and she began the search to reconnect with her father.    Today we dive deeper into her father's perspective.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch her initial interview here Find and support Lydia!  IG: https://www.instagram.com/theshecenter/ Resources & Memoire Split: theshecenter.org/podcast Website TheSheCenter.Org LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/lydia-knight-tsc/ TikTok - The She Center  TikTok - Cult Stories  Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@TheSheCenter Facebook Fan Page https://www.facebook.com/CenterOfShe We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lydia Knight grew up in a pioneer stock Mormon (LDS) family, but layered on top of that was a twisted, fabricated reality that her father was actually the leader of a Satanic cult who had v*olently ab*sed her as a baby. Lydia’s mother said she had received revelations of these horr*fic things and Lydia’s grandmother capitalized on this by gaining love and adoration from the LDS church members by appearing as a savior to the ab*sed chiIdren. Kidn*pped from Lydia’s father by her mother at 2 years old, she was told he was always searching for her so he could continue his Satanic practices.  Not only was Lydia dealing with these imposed traumas, she was told if she ever broke the rules of Mormonism or told someone about her past, her whole family would be tracked down by the Satanists and k*lled. Fear and terror ruled her life until she finally decided to look for the evidence. What she found crumbled her entire reality and she began the search to reconnect with her father.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch Lydia's follow up Q&A Find and support Lydia!  IG: https://www.instagram.com/theshecenter/ Resources & Memoire Split: theshecenter.org/podcast Website TheSheCenter.Org LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/lydia-knight-tsc/ TikTok - The She Center  TikTok - Cult Stories  Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@TheSheCenter Facebook Fan Page https://www.facebook.com/CenterOfShe We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:32 Lydia Shares the Background of Her Charismatic Grandmother (Rac*sm) 00:08:04 CW: Mentions of CA,  Lydia Shares About Her Family Dynamics Amidst the Satanic Panic 00:12:41 CW: Mentions of CA & CSA, Lydia Explains the Satanic Panic of the 80's and Her Early Memories 00:16:45 CW: Mentions of R*pe, CA & CSA, Lydia Shares the Manipulation and Mental States of Her Mother and Grandmother 00:22:03 Lydia Shares the Harm Caused by Her Mother's Obscure "Revelations" 00:27:59 Lydia Shares About the Interactions Between Mormonism and The Satanic Panic 00:33:18 CW: CA, Lydia's Talks about Her Grandma's Manipulation and Need for Importance 00:39:09 Lydia Expands on Her ChiIdhood Isolation and Other Difficulties Growing Up 00:43:59 CW: Mentions of R*pe & CSA, Lydia Shares the About Her Mormon Baptism & the Made Up Stories of Her Ab*se 00:48:11 Lydia's First Time Out of The House Attending BYU & First Contact with Her Father 00:53:13 Lydia's Mother's Extreme Measures to Protect Her & Beginning to Doubt 00:58:16 CW: Mentions of R*pe, Lydia Decides to Uncover the Truth and Exposes the Lies 01:03:55 Lydia Confronts Her Mother and Grandmother & Contacts Her Father 01:07:28 Lydia's Beautiful Reunion with Her Father After 25 Years 01:11:24 Lydia's Healing Journey & Helping Others 01:16:26 Lydia Shares How She Ensures She Won't Repeat the Cult Cycle with Her Coaching 01:18:58 Final Thoughts & Lydia's "Linda, Listen" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sami's grandfather, who lived with Schizophrenia, compiled a 2422 page book of holy scripture in a failed attempt to start his own religion.  Heavily inspired by Mormonism, yet drawing from almost every religion, it's full of many surprises.  We can't wait to crack it open with all of you and find out what's inside.   Click here to watch on YouTube Watch the full interview with Sami and her father, Adrian, here Sami’s go fund me to get the book digitized Find Sami on social media: www.youtube.com/@mildwestsami IG: @mild_west_sami We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Watch the first half of this episode at  @OwenMorganTelltale  here  The youth have become more and more of a target since adults are leaving religions at an exponential rate. If they can indoctrinate them young enough, they just might have tithe paying members for life. Shelise and Owen Morgan from @owenmorgantelltale will be reacting to a Jehovah's Witness animated series called Caleb and Sophia and will discuss just how psychologically harmful they can be.  Find and Support Owen! YouTube:  @OwenMorganTelltale    @owensfiresidechat    @owenunfiltered    @TelltaleReads   Watch a full interview with Owen Here Watch Shelise on Owen's Channel Here Resources: https://jwfacts.com/ We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Celebrating 200 episodes with these 7 other incredible women!  We explore ways in which women are harmed, silenced and exploited within 8 different cults from their unique perspectives. The stories and wisdom were beautifully shared amongst survivors supporting each other. They also share ways in which they believe women can take back their power in or outside a cult and gain clarity and freedom.  Click here to watch on YouTube FIND AND SUPPORT OUR GUESTS! Daniella Mestyanek-Young: previous interviews  IG: @daniellamyoung_  TikTok: search #groupbehaviorgal Website: https://www.uncultureyourself.com/ Amazon: "Uncultured: A Memoir"  Tia Levings: previous interview  Website and book: http://tialevings.com/book IG:  @tialevingswriter https://substack.com/@tialevings The Anti-Fundamentalist Amanda Rae Grant: previous interviews  YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TheAmandaRaeGrant IG: @amandaraegrant  Sarah Edmondson: Previous interview Instagram: @SarahEdmondson  @ALittleBitCulty Website: https://alittlebitculty.com/ Website for book: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/book Beatrice Weber: previous interviews  Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bweber Website: https://beatriceweber.com/about/ Jasmin Faulk: previous interview   IG:  @jasmin.faulk Website: http://www.jasminfaulk.com/ Book:  The Last Sandstorm  Podcast: I Want you to Meet  Jasper Hoffman: previous interview  Website: https://www.theplainpeoplespodcast.com IG: @ThePlainPeoplesPodcast  @jasper.c.hoffman  We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:01 How did your cult use fear to keep women passive and obident? 00:17:44 The various ways your cult used Information Control to keep you isolated and unaware of the world 00:48:26 What are the "rewards" in heaven for women in your cult? 01:19:35 What made you want to finally escape your cult? 01:45:35 Words of advice to those currently in a cult that want to leave 01:53:54 Linda, listen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

"The Order" or the "Kingston Clan" is known for their incestuous practices of polygamy in an effort to keep their "bloodline pure". They are a fundamentalist branch of Mormonism in Salt Lake City, where marrying 1st cousins and even half siblings, is seen as perfectly fine. Amanda Rae @TheAmandaRaeGrant  , who was raised in this group, escaped at 17 and was seen on the TV show "Escaping Polygamy" helping others to do the same. Amanda explains the Kingston Clan's fundamental belief system, their concept of "Numbered Men”, inbreeding within, how they bring in new women to mix up the gene pool, and why the cult believes they are descendants of Jesus Christ himself. Click here to watch on YouTube Find and support Amanda: YouTube:   ​⁠​ @TheAmandaRaeGrant   IG: @amandaraegrant  If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.org We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:52 The Kingston Clan's fundamental beliefs 00:05:48 "Numbered Men" explained 00:09:31 How The Order believes they are descendants of Jesus Christ 00:14:39 Inbreeding in The Order 00:20:19 Amanda explains how procreating is of the utmost importance in the order 00:30:45 Commenting on coming to terms with realizing things were wrong in The Order 00:33:14 Amanda shares her story on how she left The Order 00:36:45 Amanda explains how The Order brings in new women to mix up the gene pool 00:37:49 Racism in the order 00:52:06 Trying to apply critical thinking to the beliefs of the order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Forced to suppress who he really is, Val Snow escaped the cult that almost put him through conversion therapy, and is now living a fulfilled life. Ask him your questions! Click here to watch on YouTube Resource for those escaping polygamy: Holding Out Help Check out our in depth interview with Val here Val's youtube Channel IG: @valiantunicorn  Get more of Val's story on Amanda Rae's channel How Do People Get Brainwashed Unicorn t-shirt:  Version 1 Version 2 We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CW:  CSA, SA, mentions of suicide…. Philip Seibel was born into the Children of God sex cult and survived many instances of CSA at the hands of his own parents. This was all part of the cult’s mentality “God is love and love is sex”.  Our first episode together details his childhood and escape attempts. When he was able to get out successfully, he had no idea about the outside world. At the age of fifteen he ran away from his abusive parents and began to wander this world as a homeless street musician, learning how to survive.  Now Philip is an outspoken critic of the statutes of limitations for crimes against children. Currently he lives in Switzerland, proud father and author, singer, songwriter, artist, wearable designer and hobby sound technician His books include The monsters that kiss you good night, The monsters that walk with me and his third book in this series currently in progress "No one speaks about the monsters" Click here to watch on YouTube Watch his first interview here Find and Support Phil:   Website with his singles: https://www.philipseibel.com/singles YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Philip-Seibel Books: The Monsters that Kiss You Goodnight  The Monsters that Walk With Me  A Broken Poet  We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:42 Philip's childhood in COG 00:11:29 How Philip processes what happened to him 00:16:37 How Philip managed as a 15 year old runaway 00:16:55 CW: CSA 00:19:56 Philip recounts his CSA 00:21:32 CW:  CSA - The reason Philip remembers is CSA so well 00:29:37 The consequences Philip's dealt with for telling his story 00:31:51 CW: Society desensitized to women's SA and not men's 00:34:56 CW:  mentions of suic*de 00:38:43 Philip felt he couldn't open up about CSA he experienced while dating 00:42:37 What it was like writing his first book - Philip comments on the responses people get when disclosing their trauma 00:46:19 Philip's thoughts on whether continuing to speak out will further hinder his success 00:55:51 How Philip is doing now 00:57:11 Linda, Listen 01:02:49 Philip sings and plays Little Black Sheep on his guitar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Within The Children of God, also known as The Family International, the members blindly followed the leader David Berg. They weren’t even allowed to know what he looked like. Only a select few were chosen to be in his presence and can tell the story of who “Grandpa” really was. He was a twisted man who married children, including our guest Serena Kelley who was only 3 years old. Serena is the only person left who is able to tell these stories. She explains what it was like being considered a “celebrity” in the group and how she had to mentally split herself and dissociate to survive.  Click here to watch on YouTube Watch pt 1 of Serena’s interview here Watch pt 2 of Serena’s interview here  Find Serena: IG: @serkelley Substack: https://substack.com/@serenakelley YT:  https://www.youtube.com/@serkelley Website: https://serenakelley.com/ We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  Click here to go to the official booking page Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness  Host Instagram @sheliseann  Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_  TikTok @cults.to.consciousness  Twitter @cultstocon  **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.