Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back to listen to our 4-part series with Ronen Bergman.  ____ Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ According to a recent CBS / YouGov poll, 41% of Americans think that the war with Iran is going well, while 59% believe it is going badly.  Can a war be won when the country fighting it doesn’t agree on whether it’s going well? As the U.S. moves to blockade the Strait of Hormuz following failed negotiations, the debate is no longer just about battlefield gains, it’s about strategy, legitimacy, and what success really means. Dan Senor brings together former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro and FDD CEO Mark Dubowitz for a good-faith debate on where the war stands and where it should go next. From military progress to political will, and from alliance dynamics to endgame scenarios, this conversation unpacks the fault lines shaping the American debate. In this episode: Where do things stand after the failed U.S–Iran talks and the Hormuz blockade? How Dan and Mark define whether the war is “going well” What the U.S. and Israel have actually achieved militarily Can the war be won if the Iranian regime remains intact What economic, political, and human costs should Americans expect from this war? How is the war affecting U.S. alliances and global standing? Is the best path forward to escalate, contain, or shift strategy? What happens if the war ends before achieving its core objectives? This episode was sponsored by United Hatzalah. Donate today at IsraelRescue.org/CallMeBack. Add this number to your phone right now if you live in Israel – 1221, and for those visiting it’s 972-2-5-383838. Listen to Mark’s podcast The Iran Breakdown. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Yuval Semo

For the full episode, subscribe here to Inside Call me Back This is a sneak peek from this week’s members-only Inside Call Me Back (Part 3 of our 4-part series on Inside Mossad’s Shadow War with Iran with Ronen Bergman). In the aftermath of the JCPOA, Israel is forced to rethink its approach. With a military strike off the table, the strategy shifts. Mossad is tasked with finding a definitive “smoking gun” that would prove Iran’s military nuclear ambitions. That effort sets off a chain of events that leads to one of the most daring intelligence operations in modern history - the discovery and theft of Iran’s nuclear archive. For the full series, subscribe here to Inside Call me Back More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Subscribe here to Ark News Daily Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Yuval Semo

Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back to listen to our 3-part series with Ronen Bergman.  ____ Did Iran blink, or did the U.S. pull back too soon? At the 11th hour, the U.S. and Iran agree to a two-week ceasefire, stepping back from a major escalation. Shipping through the Strait of Hormuz is set to resume under the ceasefire—but the core issues driving the war remain unresolved. Dan is joined by Nadav Eyal and Mark Dubowitz to break down what was actually agreed to, why Israel’s security establishment is uneasy, and whether this pause reflects strategic success—or a missed opportunity. Is this a real off-ramp…or just a temporary pause before the next phase? In this episode: 03:15 - A Ceasefire at the Brink: What Was Actually Agreed 05:33 - The Strait of Hormuz: Reopening Under What Terms? 06:57 - The Missing Pieces: Nuclear Program and Missiles Still Unresolved 08:18 - Israel’s Alarm: Why the Security Establishment Is Worried 14:30 - Did Iran Blink—or Gain Leverage? 15:42 - Trump’s Red Lines: What Must a Final Deal Include? 21:21 - Political Risks: Israel, the U.S., and the Blame Game 35:24 - Endgames: Diplomacy, Regime Pressure, or Renewed War This episode was sponsored by the Jewish Communal Fund. Learn more about JCF’s donor advised funds at jcfny.org. Listen to Mark’s podcast The Iran Breakdown. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Yuval Semo

Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back to listen to our 3-part series with Ronen Bergman.  ____ Will Trump’s ultimatum trigger a decisive strike on Iran—or force a last-minute deal? As the clock ticks toward a U.S. deadline, Dan is joined by Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal to break down what comes next: a widening war, a strategic endgame, or something in between. They unpack competing military options, the role of Iran’s energy sector, the risks of escalation across the region, and whether regime change is a realistic outcome—or a dangerous illusion. In this episode: 02:45 - Trump’s Ultimatum: What It Actually Means 05:45 - Extend, Escalate, or Strike: The U.S. Decision Tree 06:42 - Targeting Iran’s Energy Sector: Pressure vs. Shock 11:03 - Ground Forces on the Table? Risks and Realities 17:00 - No Deal, No Deterrence: Can This War End Cleanly? 18:00 - Iran’s Leverage: Hormuz and Regional Retaliation 21:30 - Endgames: Regime Change, Containment, or End This episode was sponsored by Hadassah. Please go to Hadassah.org to make a gift that helps Hadassah continue its longstanding, life-changing support for the people in Israel. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Link to Javad Zarif article on Foreign Affairs: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/middle-east/how-iran-should-end-war-javad-zarif Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Yuval Semo

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back to listen to our 3-part series with Ronen Bergman ____ Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ Is the war heading towards a ground assault or a push for a deal? To explore the possibilities, Dan is joined by Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal and Fred Kagan, director of the Critical Threats Project at the American Enterprise Institute. In this episode: 02:24 - Two Tracks, One War: Escalation vs. Diplomacy 03:33 - Inside the Air Campaign: What’s Been Degraded—and What Hasn’t 08:33 - Diplomacy During War: Contradiction or Strategy? 10:57 - Iran’s Mindset: Why Tehran Thinks It’s Winning 15:54 - The Strait of Hormuz: Leverage, Illusion, or Real Control? 17:15 - What a U.S. Ground Operation Could Look Like 20:06 - Energy, Escalation, and Regional Spillover Risks 24:24 - Endgames: Deal, Deterrence, or Something Bigger? More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

For the full episode, subscribe here to Inside Call me Back This is a sneak peek from today’s members-only Inside Call Me Back, Part 2 of our 3-part series on Inside Mossad’s Shadow War with Iran with Ronen Bergman. Dan and Ronen pick up where Part 1 left off, diving into the growing tension between Israel and the United States over whether—and when—to strike Iran’s nuclear program. From dramatic exchanges with Presidents Bush and Obama to deep divisions inside Israel’s own security establishment, this episode explores the early fault lines that would shape one of the most consequential strategic debates in recent history. For the full series, subscribe here to Inside Call me Back More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Subscribe here to Ark News Daily Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back ____ What does freedom mean when pain is still present? As Passover approaches, Dan Senor speaks with Rachel Goldberg-Polin about how this year’s Seder lands differently. In a moment shaped by war, loss, and uneasy relief, they explore how the rituals of Passover hold both joy and sorrow—and why that tension is the point. From the Exodus story to the symbols on the Seder table, Rachel reflects on memory, meaning, gratitude, and the challenge of holding both relief and restraint. Less about retelling the past, this conversation asks what it means to be free right now. In this episode: 02:24 – Why This Passover Feels Different 08:09 – Setting the Table: From Slavery to Nationhood 12:54 – What Actually Happens at the Seder 16:15 – The Power of Questions (and Why Answers Matter Less) 27:39 – Bitterness, Memory, and Eating Our Pain 37:06 – Relief vs. Glee: A Moral Distinction 39:06 – Dayenu and the Discipline of Gratitude This episode was sponsored by the Jewish Communal Fund. Learn more about JCF’s donor advised funds at jcfny.org. This episode was sponsored by Hadassah. Please go to Hadassah.org to make a gift that helps Hadassah continue its longstanding, life-changing support for the people in Israel. Purchase tickets to see Dan in conversation with Rachel Goldberg-Polin at the Streicker Center on April 20. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back ____ Are the stakes of the Iran war higher than Israelis understand? Micah Goodman joins Dan to try and understand the different narratives that drive this war: Iran’s war against the West, the Iranian people’s war of liberation, the United States’ paradoxical relationship with Israel, and China’s hegemonic fantasies. While Israelis are primarily concerned with guaranteeing their own safety, Micah argues that the war puts all these narratives to the test, and that the stakes of winning (or losing) the war may define the future of the balance of power around the world. In this episode: - The “Great Convergence”: Why This War Is Different - The U.S.-Israel Paradox - America First and MAGA (Can Israel’s Military Beat Conspiracy Theories?) - Trump’s War Doctrine: Strength Without Quagmire - The Global Stakes: China, Iran, and Deterrence - Zionism and the Bigger Meaning of This War This episode was sponsored by Hadassah. Please go to Hadassah.org to make a gift that helps Hadassah continue its longstanding, life-changing support for the people in Israel. Find Theodore Herzl's The Jewish State here. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

For the full episode, subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- This is a sneak peek from this week’s members-only Inside Call me Back, which started a special three-part series on Israel’s shadow war with Iran. The current campaign against Iran is just one chapter in a much longer war that has been taking place in the shadows for over three decades. This is the story of that war. In this first installment, Ronen Bergman tells Dan about the first stage of the war: from the intelligence that led to the discovery of the nuclear program to Mossad’s assassinations of Iran's nuclear scientists, to groundbreaking cyber warfare. But did it work? For the full series, subscribe here to Inside Call me Back More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Subscribe here to Ark News Daily Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

This is a news update from Ark News Daily. Subscribe here to Ark News Daily In this episode: -Iran hits Qatari gas hub -Israel fights back on the energy war -Trump and Netanyahu see light in the end of the tunnel -Do Jews support the war? Mentioned in the episode: -Nadav Eyal on Call me Back about the Strait of Hormuz blockade -For Heaven's Sake on the Jewish world's response to the war -NPR poll on Jewish support for the war -Israel Democracy Institute poll on Israeli support for the war -JPPI poll on Jewish support for the war More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits:  Deborah Pardes, Andrew Tobin, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe to Ark News Daily ____ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back ____ Can the world’s most powerful militaries reopen the Strait of Hormuz…or is Iran already winning the economic war? Eighteen days into Operation Epic Fury, Iran is increasing its pressure on the world’s energy supply chain. With the Strait of Hormuz effectively under lockdown, oil flows have slowed to a trickle, prices are rising, and the risk of broader escalation is growing. Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal joins Dan to break down why America and Israel’s military superiority hasn’t been enough to reopen the strait, what Israel’s latest strike on Iran’s energy infrastructure signals, and whether the current campaign is quietly setting the stage for regime change. In this episode: 06:18 – 18 Days Into War: Where Things Stand 12:48 – The consequences of Iran's selective-blockade 14:48 – Can the US reopen the Strait of Hormuz? 20:24 – The World’s Tepid Response 23:24 – Decapitating Iran’s Leadership 26:54 – Is Regime Change the Endgame? This episode was sponsored by the Jewish Communal Fund. Learn more about JCF’s donor advised funds at jcfny.org. Purchase tickets to see Dan in conversation with Rachel Goldberg-Polin at the Streicker Center on April 20. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

This is a news update from Ark News Daily. Subscribe here to Ark News Daily In this episode: - Israel hits top regime figures  - Iranian regime showing cracks  - Iran keeps bombing neighbors - Trump admin aide quits to protest war More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Andrew Tobin, Deborah Pardes, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

This is a news update from Ark News Daily. Subscribe here to Ark News Daily In this episode: - Trump shifts focus to Hormuz - Israel plans to capture southern Lebanon - Arab world losing patience with Iran - Some Israeli schools open up Listen to Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal on the latest Call me Back episode. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits:  Deborah Pardes - Host  Andrew Tobin - News Writer Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Ark News Daily ____ What happens if the U.S. and Israel win the war militarily, but Iran’s regime survives? Dan Senor is joined by Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal to assess where the war stands as it enters its third week. While U.S. and Israeli forces continue grinding down Iranian military infrastructure, the bigger questions are now economic and strategic, especially after Iran effectively weaponized the Strait of Hormuz and global energy markets. They debate whether Washington and Jerusalem share the same endgame, what success would actually look like, and whether removing Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile could become the decisive turning point. Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back In this episode: 09:12 — The Current Phase of the War: Grinding Through Iranian Targets 09:42 — Iran’s Energy Gambit and the Strait of Hormuz Crisis 11:03 — Oil Markets, Global Pressure, and Trump’s Political Timeline 25:18 — The Strategic Debate Inside Washington and Jerusalem 28:00 — Israel’s Ultimate Goal: Regime Change in Tehran 30:48 — Could the U.S. End the War Before Israel Is Finished? 35:18 — The Enriched Uranium Question and the “Strategic Surprise” Scenario 37:00 — If the Regime Survives: Did the War Actually Change the Region? More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to the What’s Your Number? podcast. ------- In a Call me Back bonus episode, we’re publishing this week’s episode of Ark Media podcast What’s Your Number, co-hosted by Yonatan Adiri and Yael Wissner-Levy. This week, despite recording between air-raid sirens and shelter runs, Yael and Yonatan break down Iran’s emerging strategy of economic warfare. Instead of matching Israel and the U.S. militarily, Iran appears to be targeting global pressure points—oil and gas infrastructure, fertilizer supply chains, financial hubs, AI data centers, and the Strait of Hormuz—to drive up global costs and force political pressure. The question: can this strategy actually move markets and reshape the conflict?  In this episode: 00:00 - Numbers of the Week 05:00 - The WYNDEX 09:00 - Big Short #1: Lebanon signals a shift on Hezbollah 11:30 - Big Short #2: Israel’s budget politics and coalition stability 14:00 - Long Play: Iran’s economic warfare and the global energy stakes 38:40 - Words of the Week More Ark Media: Subscribe to to Inside Call me Back Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- This is a sneak peek from today's members only Inside Call me Back, in which Dan and Ilan discuss the Michigan synagogue shooting and the rise in global Antisemitism.In the full episode: In this Inside edition of Call me Back, producer Ilan Benatar turns the mic on Dan Senor to respond to listener questions and reflect on the surge in antisemitism worldwide. They discuss the attempted synagogue terror attack in Detroit, how narratives about Israel’s war with Iran could shape antisemitic rhetoric, and the difficult balance Jewish communities face between investing in security and investing in Jewish life. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Is the Iran War actually heading toward an end, or just getting started?  Almost two weeks into the conflict, the United States and Israel have laid waste to Iran’s external war capabilities. As the Pentagon signals the end of "Phase One," the focus shifts from destroying missile launchers to a much bigger question: can advanced technology and air superiority achieve what was once thought possible only with boots on the ground? Dan is joined by Rich Goldberg, senior advisor at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, to unpack the military scorecard, the high-stakes messaging of the oil markets, and the "science fiction" reality of modern AI-driven warfare. In this episode: 05:20 – Military Progress: Assessing the Damage to Iran’s Arsenal 09:25 – Economic Warfare: Using Presidential Messaging to Control Oil Prices 11:05 – Breaking the Siege: Ending Iran's Control of the Strait of Hormuz 14:05 – Intelligence Debates: Is the Iranian Regime Near a Tipping Point? 26:10 – The Ground War Debate: Why Air Superiority Might Be Enough 31:40 – The High-Stakes Mission to Extract Buried Nuclear Material 36:35 – Beyond Iraq: How AI and Technology Have Changed War-Fighting 42:45 – The Future of the US-Israel Defense Tech Partnership More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Could a buried stockpile of uranium decide the outcome of the war with Iran? Dan is joined by Israeli journalist Amit Segal and military historian Fred Kagan to unpack reports that roughly 400 kilograms of uranium enriched to 60% may still be recoverable from a bombed Iranian nuclear site. They discuss why that level of enrichment matters, what it would take for U.S. or Israeli forces to extract the material, and why the race to secure it could shape the next phase of the war. The conversation also explores the broader campaign against the Iranian regime, the possibility of regime change, renewed Hezbollah attacks in northern Israel, and what Iran might look like if the current leadership collapses. In this episode: 01:50 – Hezbollah’s renewed attacks on northern Israel 04:05 – The broader military campaign against Iran’s regime infrastructure 08:20 – The race to secure Iran’s buried 60% enriched uranium 12:15 – Why 60% enrichment puts Iran close to nuclear weapons capability 16:40 – What it would take for U.S. or Israeli forces to extract the material 23:30 – Netanyahu’s “surprises” and the strategy to destabilize the regime 28:55 – The rise of Mojtaba Khamenei and what it means for the regime 35:10 – Could regime change in Iran trigger a civil war? Learn more about AEI’s Critical Threats Project.  Learn more about the Institute for the Study of War. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ How did the oppressive Ayatollah regime convince the Western left that they’re the victims? Dan speaks with Iranian-American lawyer and activist Elica Le Bon about the ideological narratives that form (and distort) the West’s reaction to the Iran war. Le Bon explains the deep divide between the Iranian people and the Islamic regime, the cycles of protests and repression, the imperialist roots of the regime’s long-standing obsession with Israel, and the Marxist prism through which the Western left understands the conflict. In this episode: 06:30 – Elica Le Bon’s family story and the legacy of the 1979 revolution 07:45 – Life under the Islamic regime and the experience of repression 11:05 – The gap between the Iranian people and the regime ruling them 14:42 – Why the Iranian regime sees Israel as central to its ideology 20:32 – How ideological narratives in the West shape perceptions of the war 23:42 – The “mind virus” of anti-Western and anti-Zionist thinking 26:46 – Protest movements inside Iran and the risks people face 31:04 – What a post-regime Iran could mean for the Middle East and the world Listen to the latest episode of For Heaven’s Sake. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ This is a sneak peek from the latest Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. In this episode, Dan Senor is joined by Amit Segal to answer subscriber questions about the war with Iran and what victory might actually look like. Has Israel already neutralized the strategic threats from Hamas and Hezbollah? Why might the political stakes of this war be higher for Donald Trump than for Benjamin Netanyahu? And if Iran’s regime weakens further, could the entire regional balance shift overnight? To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting https://arkmedia.org. In the full episode: In this Inside edition of Call me Back, Dan Senor and Amit Segal answer subscriber questions about the war with Iran, the strategic stakes for Netanyahu and Trump, the possibility of regime change in Tehran, Qatar’s role in the region, and whether anti-Israel sentiment on the American right is growing. Along the way, they also discuss how the war is reshaping Israel’s alliances and why the U.S.–Israel partnership looks very different than it did in past conflicts. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Why would a president risk a war in the Middle East in an election year?  Dan is joined by Walter Russell Mead to unpack the strategic and political gamble behind the U.S. conflict with Iran. They discuss why Trump may have chosen this moment to act, how generational attitudes toward war shape the debate, and what success (or failure) could look like. The conversation also explores Iran’s potential strategy, its impact on Russia and China, and how countries like India are viewing the unfolding conflict. In this episode: - 05:45 – Trump’s High-Stakes Bet on War - 08:15 – Why the Case for the War Feels Unclear to Many Americans - 10:25 – The Generational Divide on U.S. Military Power - 15:40 – Why Trump Chose This Moment to Strike - 23:20 – What “Winning” the War Could Actually Look Like - 26:20 – Iran’s Endurance Strategy: Drag the U.S. Into a Quagmire - 30:05 – What Russia and China Want to See Happen - 32:10 – Why India Is Watching This War Closely See Rachel Goldberg-Polin in conversation with Dan at The Temple Emanu-El Streicker Cultural Center on April 20 to discuss her upcoming book "When We See You Again.” Purchase tickets before they sell out. More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Was America dragged into the Iran war by Israel, as some commentators seem to suggest? An out-of-context statement by State Secretary Marco Rubio seems to give credence to the conspiratorial accusation that America is fighting Israel's war in Iran. Dan is joined by Nadav Eyal and Mark Dubowitz to discuss the truth behind these claims, the delicate politics behind the decision to launch the war, and how it all plays out in American public discourse. They also cover the possible succession of Iran’s Supreme Leader, the campaign against Iran’s nuclear and missile capabilities, and the broader strategy shaping the conflict—along with what outcomes Israel and the U.S. would ultimately consider a victory. In this episode: - 04:20 – The strike in Qom and the disruption of Iran’s leadership succession - 06:05 – The possible rise of Mojtaba Khamenei - 11:05 – What the past 72 hours reveal about the military campaign - 13:25 – Why Qom is central to the Islamic Republic - 15:05 – The emerging strategy to pressure the regime from within - 20:05 – The debate in the U.S. over how the war began - 37:35 – Iran’s strategy for surviving the conflict - 40:05 – What Israel and the U.S. would consider a victory More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ How did Israel manage to eliminate Supreme Leader Khamenei and his top lieutenants within the opening strike of Operation Roaring Lion? How was the Iranian regime infiltrated? What tactical abilities were necessary to deliver the final blow? And how much of it was luck? Ronen Bergman, senior correspondent for Yedioth Ahronoth and The New York Times Magazine, takes Dan through the story of Khamenei’s killing from plan to execution, and through the many ways in which things could have gone differently. In this episode: 3:00 – How did Israel know where Khamenei was hiding? 8:43 – Was Iran careless? 14:50 – How did the plan to strike Khamenei take shape? 15:34 – 6am on the morning when it happened 22:01 – Sponsor break: United Hatzalah 22:57 – Immediate aftermath: What happened after the decapitation strike? 23:37 – The second and third waves of the attack 28:33 – Iran's attack on Arab states: another miscalculation? 33:25 – What's the mood in Iran? This episode was sponsored by United Hatzalah. Donate today at IsraelRescue.org/CallMeBack. Add this number to your phone right now if you live in Israel – 1221, and for those visiting it’s 972-2-5-383838. More Ark Media: Want to join the team at Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back ------- Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ What's the state of play after the first day of operation Roaring Lion? What tactical resources have the United States and Israel deployed and what's their division of labor? What are the operation's risks and opportunities? General David Petraeus joins Dan to examine the strategic and tactical planning and goals of the war. General Petraeus is a retired four-star U.S. Army general and former CIA Director who led coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and is widely recognized for shaping modern U.S. counterinsurgency strategy. He's also co-author of 'Conflict' with Andrew Roberts. In this episode: - 1:00 – Khamenei killed: The decapitation strike - 3:00 – Day one of the war: Epic Fury and Roaring Lion - 5:00 – How a strike like this gets built - 8:00 – The daylight gamble - 12:00 – U.S. forces in position - 16:00 – Regime change or something else? - 20:00 – U.S.–Israel coordination - 28:00 – What comes next for Iran More Ark Media: Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ The United States and Israel have launched coordinated strikes against Iran, and the region is now at war. In this emergency episode of Call Me Back, Dan is joined by Nadav Eyal and Mark Dubowitz to break down the opening operation, Iran’s retaliation across the region, and the high-stakes question at the center of it all: Is this about degrading nuclear and missile capabilities, or is this the beginning of regime change? They discuss the decapitation strategy targeting Iran’s senior leadership, the possibility that Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has been killed, the international response, and what comes next. As sirens sound in Israel and ballistic missiles fly across the Gulf, this is real-time analysis of a historic turning point in the Middle East. In this episode: - Operation Epic Fury and Roaring Lion: How the war began - Iran’s regional retaliation and the widening battlefield - Targeting the leadership: Decapitation and the Khamenei question - Nuclear reconstitution, Pickaxe Mountain, and the missile threat - Regime change or strategic degradation? - International reaction and Gulf alignment - The American message and what it signals - How this ends and what comes next More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Rachel Goldberg-Polin joins Dan for a Purim special to explain why this is possibly the most misunderstood holiday in Jewish tradition. Rather than simply a fun masquerade for kids, Purim presents a profound meditation on hiddenness, courage, and stepping into one’s moment. Rachel walks Dan through the Book of Esther, unpacks its drama and philosophical depth, and explores why a story where God is never mentioned may be the most relevant text for a confusing, fractured age. In this episode: - The world of Persia and the backstory to Purim - Vashti, Esther, and the making of a queen - Haman, Amalek, and the logic of antisemitism - “For such a time as this” and the Esther moment - Where is God in a story without God? - Masks, hiddenness, and the illusion of randomness - Unity, generosity, and the mitzvot of Purim - Discovering your purpose when no one summons you More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ As American military assets flow into the Middle East and Tehran prepares its response to Washington’s demands, Dan is joined by Nadav Eyal and Mark Dubowitz to assess whether President Trump is leaning toward diplomacy or decisive military action. They break down what’s real, what’s signaling, what would be the goals and scope of an American attack, and whether Israel is preparing to take part in it. In this episode: 3:00 - Is Trump leaning toward a strike or a deal? 3:30 - What “zero enrichment” really means and why it matters 9:30 - Pickaxe Mountain and Iran’s rebuilding nuclear infrastructure 11:00 - The scale of U.S. military deployments in the region 16:00 - Israel’s preparedness and the missile defense dilemma 22:30 - Hezbollah, Gulf states, and regional spillover risks 27:00 - Symbolic strike or regime-level operation? 39:00 - How politics, legacy, and red lines shape Trump’s decision More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

This is a sneak peek from the latest Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Amit Segal joins Dan to separate spin from substance and answer the question on everyone’s mind: is a military operation truly imminent, and how should Israelis think about what comes next? They also discuss Amit’s political worldview and how it compares to his father’s Jabotinskyite vision. To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org. In the full episode:  Dan and Amit Segal take listener questions that dig deep into the Israeli divide. Will the election revolve around the Haredi draft crisis or the judicial reform? Should Antizionist Arab parties be able to run in Israeli elections? What is the future of Judea and Samaria and how long can Israel postpone the question of Palestinian statehood? And does Amit share his father's vision of a Jabotinsky right?  More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Do most people misunderstand the true nature of Antizionism? Dan sits down with renowned computer scientist and public intellectual Judea Pearl to understand why he coined the term “Zionophobia.” Pearl argues that Antizionism is not simply policy criticism but a rejection of Jewish collective sovereignty. Pearl shares his personal story, that dates back to the founding of Israel, and explains how the murder of his son, Daniel Pearl, and the violence of the Second Intifada have reshaped his thinking about Israel, identity, and moral clarity.  The conversation spans failed peace efforts, the politics of language, the meaning of indigeneity, and Pearl’s warning that Israel’s greatest long-term vulnerability may be the erosion of bipartisan American support. Read Judea’s book Coexistence and Other Fighting Words In this episode: 03:00 - From AI pioneer to Zionist advocate 24:00 - “Zionophobia,” not anti-Semitism 29:00 - Terrorism, moral asymmetry, and the Carter controversy 35:00 - Education as the true battlefield 38:00 - Why peace efforts failed and what was misunderstood 41:00 - Indigeneity, sovereignty, and competing narratives 44:00 - The bipartisan question and Israel’s strategic future More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Subscribe to What’s Your Number? ____ For years, normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel was seen as the ultimate goal of the Abraham Accords and the final step towards unlocking regional stability. But a sharp rivalry is heating up between Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed. Dan is joined by Yonatan Adiri and Yael Wissner-Levy to unpack the economic, political, and personal dynamics driving this feud, what it means for Israel, and why India and global energy corridors may matter more than most people realize. In this episode: 00:18 - MBS’s Vision 2030 under pressure and the internal Saudi recalibration 10:40 - Mentor turned rival: How MBS and MBZ went from alignment to confrontation 18:45 - The Yemen flashpoint that ruptured the Saudi–UAE relationship 24:00 - Energy corridors, IMEC, and the India factor 28:30 - Is Israel collateral damage or strategically positioned? 34:50 - Why UAE’s “infrastructure diplomacy” may be winning quietly 38:45 - The future of normalization versus regional integration This episode was sponsored by United Hatzalah. Donate today at IsraelRescue.org/CallMeBack. Add this number to your phone right now if you live in Israel – 1221, and for those visiting it’s 972-2-5-383838. More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackExplore Israel VotesListen to For Heaven's SakeWatch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

This is a sneak peek from the latest Inside Call me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Following Bret Stephens’ controversial “State of the World Jewry” speech, Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, joins Dan to respond directly. Is the Jewish community overinvested in fighting antisemitism? Did institutions miss the warning signs before October 7? And can Jewish identity flourish without first ensuring Jewish security? To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org. In the full episode:  Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of Anti-Defamation League, joins Dan to respond to Brett Stephens’ controversial “State of the World Jewry” speech, which argued that too many Jewish resources are invested in fighting Antisemitism, rather than building a Jewish life. Jonathan, whom Bret called out by name, tells Dan that the two mustn’t be seen as mutually exclusive. The two also discuss whether Jewish institutions should do some soul searching after being blindsided by Oct. 8, whether the Blue Square Alliance Superbowl ad missed the mark, and what the data’s showing about anti-Jewish trends in America. Read Jonathan’s op-ed, American Jews need both security and identity Register for the Never is Now Summit and use discount code “Senor20” Watch the Call Me Back episode from the 2025 Never is Now Summit Watch Jonathan’s previous appearance on Call Me Back More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ___________________________________ Prime Minister Netanyahu’s meeting with President Trump ended without any clear declaration about simmering tensions with Iran, so Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal joins Dan to try to read between the lines. What did Netanyahu hope to achieve? Does anyone know Trump’s plan? Is an attack on Iran still on the table and did Netanyahu move the needle? Could the talks with Iran be just a head fake? In this episode: - What Netanyahu asked for in Washington - Why Israeli officials think the Iran talks may be “dead on arrival” - U.S. military buildup and strike contingencies - Why Trump’s Iran policy is not about Israel — and never has been - The China factor: oil, energy, and Cold War II -  Will Israel participate in a strike? - The Board of Peace and a potential Marshall Plan for Gaza - Why Hamas will only disarm under credible threat More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackExplore Israel VotesListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Please spend 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ___________________________________ What will Israelis really be voting on in the first election since October 7? Today we are launching Israel Votes, a new Call me Back and Ark Media series that will be your hub for unpacking the Israeli election. Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal join Dan to set the stage, exploring how October 7, the war, coalition politics, deep social divides, and the Netanyahu brand will all play a role in the upcoming vote, which many Israelis feel may determine the character and future of the Jewish state. In this episode: 06:45 - Why this election feels different from every Israeli election before it 08:55 - Netanyahu’s coalition problem and the ultra-Orthodox question 11:55 - How October 7 changed the political map and voter psychology 16:40 - Is this election a referendum on the past or a vote about the future? 21:00 - What Israel’s demographic and political trends mean for the outcome 26:45 - The opposition’s strategy and the Bennett factor More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackExplore Israel VotesListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

This is a sneak peek from the latest Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast.  Subscribe here to Inside Call me Back Bret Stephens argues that while organizations like the ADL do valuable work tracking and responding to antisemitic incidents, the Jewish community has overinvested in fighting antisemitism as a primary strategy. To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org. In the full episode:  New York Times columnist Bret Stephens joins Dan on the members-only edition of Call me Back to take questions about his speech at 92nd Street Y and the public conversation it started. Should we really stop trying to fight Antisemitism? Should the ADL be “dismantled”? Can we define the psychology of Antisemitism? And what are the stories that define Judaism? Watch Bret's full speech: https://youtu.be/1QMTjVuo9dE More Ark Media: Listen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

Is the right way to fight Antisemitism maybe to… stop fighting it? In this special episode, we share The State of World Jewry address delivered by New York Times columnist Bret Stephens at the 92nd Street Y. Stephens, who is also the editor-in-chief of SAPIR Journal, offers a bracing diagnosis of modern antisemitism and argues that it cannot be educated away, apologized for, or solved through allyship. Instead, he calls for Jewish confidence, cultural seriousness, and moral clarity in the face of rising hostility. In this episode: - Why antisemitism is about resentment, not misunderstanding - The false promise of fighting antisemitism head-on - The danger of approval-seeking and respectability politics - October 8th Jews and the identity reckoning - Jewish values as inherently countercultural - Building strength instead of chasing acceptance This episode was sponsored by SAPIR: Sign up for the SAPIR journal at sapirjournal.org/CallMeBack More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Is there a deeper strategy underlying President Trump’s actions? Dan is joined by historian, Free Press columnist, CBS contributor, and Senior Fellow at Hoover Institution Sir Niall Ferguson to connect the dots on how President Trump is using leverage, unpredictability, and selective force across Iran, Venezuela, Europe, and beyond. They discuss why a counter revolution in Iran has little chance without foreign intervention, what “regime alteration” means, whether we're still living through Cold War II, and why Europe keeps taking the bait. In this episode… - Iran strike timing, targets, and endgame - “Regime alteration” vs. regime change - Why Iran’s protests failed and fear works - Turkey’s mediation and Erdoğan’s ambitions - Saudi pressure and regional deterrence logic - Cold War II and the authoritarian axis - Davos, Europe’s weakness, and the Greenland distraction - MAGA tensions, Israel, deterrence, and Taiwan This episode was sponsored by United Hatzalah. Donate today at IsraelRescue.org/CallMeBack. Add this number to your phone right now if you live in Israel – 1221, and for those visiting it’s 972-2-5-383838. From the episode: - Niall Ferguson’s essay in the Free Press, “The Myth of Revolution in Iran” More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo

This is a sneak peek from a recent conversation on Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Dan and Nadav try to understand the strategic thinking of Iran’s top command and the role of surprise in deterrence. To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org. In the full episode:  Nadav joins Dan in the hot seat to take listener questions on Trump’s proposed “Board of Peace,” the limits of economic prosperity to deradicalize Palestinian society, and whether outside actors can actually create change in Gaza. They also discuss Qatar’s influence inside the U.S., and explore the politics of Israeli Arabs. Dan also provides his perspective on whether elite universities still matter. More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Is Antizionism a Soviet invention for persecuting Jews? Dan is joined by Shaul Kelner, professor of Jewish studies and sociology at Vanderbilt University, to examine the rarely-told history of Antizionism. Kelner explains how a framework designed to deny Jewish life under Soviet rule has resurfaced in the West long before October 7 and why many American Jews were unprepared for its scale and intensity. In this episode... 08:00: The Soviet roots of Antizionism 15:00: How Antizionism entered the West 21:00 Marxism and ideological monoculture in American universities 28:00 Why American Jews are seduced by Antizionism 32:00: Stop debating semantics This episode was sponsored by SAPIR: Sign up for the SAPIR journal at sapirjournal.org/CallMeBack From the episode: - Shaul Kelner’s book, A Cold War Exodus: How Americans Activists Mobilized to Free Soviet Jews - Read Shaul’s article on American Antizionism in the Shalom Hartman Institute's Sources: A Journal of Jewish Ideas - Attend The State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Is a U.S. strike on Iran back on the table? How could it reshape the Middle East? And what role could the Middle East play in the new world order taking shape these days?  Dan Senor speaks with Mark Dubowitz and Yonatan Adiri about the rising likelihood of U.S. military action against the Islamic Republic, which targets are being considered, and how Iran could retaliate. They also unpack Israel’s internal debates on how to respond, the Saudi UAE rift and what it means for normalization, Turkey’s expanding footprint, and why India is becoming a more important regional player. In this episode... - Is a U.S. strike on Iran coming and what would actually be hit - How Iran might retaliate and the debates inside Israel over next steps - Whether military action is meant to pressure the regime or help bring it down - Why Trump paused an attack and the regional forces shaping that call - Saudi Arabia’s recalculation, its rift with the UAE, and the impact on normalization - Turkey’s rise and why India is becoming a quiet power broker in the region This episode was sponsored by SAPIR: Sign up for the SAPIR journal at sapirjournal.org/CallMeBack From the episode: - Listen to Yonatan’s podcast What’s Your Number? - Listen to Mark’s podcast The Iran Breakdown More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

This is a sneak peek from a recent conversation on Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Dan and Dr. Tal Becker challenge the claim that Saudi normalization is “dead” and explain why a one-state framework fails to address the core of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org. In the full episode:  Dan takes listener questions with Dr. Tal Becker on the new “Board of Peace,” why it’s being framed as an alternative to the UN, and what it could mean for Gaza and beyond. Tal also weighs Israel’s concerns about Turkey and Qatar sitting on the Gaza Executive Committee. The conversation ends with a look at trends in American Jewry and a practical explanation for why Israeli leaders often adjust once they’re governing from the Prime Minister’s Office. More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

What will Phase II of Trump's plan for Gaza look like on the ground? Who’s  in charge of Gaza now, and who’s paying the bills? Dan is joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal to cut through the fog around “phase two” of the Gaza plan. They break down the new governing structure — Trump’s “Board of Peace,” the Gaza Executive Committee, a Palestinian technocrat government, and an International Stability Force — and explain what will actually matter on the ground: money, security control, and whether Hamas truly disarms. They also assess Israel–U.S. friction, the odds of renewed fighting, what daily life in Gaza looks like right now, and how all of this collides with Israeli election politics. In this episode... - Understanding the Governance of Gaza - Who Holds Power in Gaza? Money, Security, and Accountability - Hamas After the War - Phase Two, the Yellow Line, and Israeli Withdrawal - The International Stability Force Explained - Life in Gaza Right Now - Gaza Meets Israeli Politics - The Bigger Regional Picture From the episode: This episode was sponsored by The Shalom Hartman Institute: Learn more about the Community Leadership Program at https://go.hartman.org.il/CLP-CMB More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

In part two of Dan’s conversation with political scientist Yascha Mounk, the two discuss identity politics, its growing influence on the American left, and the danger this trend poses to pluralistic societies. They examine why identity politics is so seductive, how it reshapes government, schools, and civic  institutions, and why Mounk believes it ultimately undermines both individuality and democratic cohesion. The conversation also turns inward, exploring Jewish identity: where it strengthens pluralism, where it becomes politicized, and why Jews, in particular, should be cautious about abandoning universal principles for group-based power. In this episode... - Why liberalism today feels unrecognizable - What identity politics is and why it’s so appealing - How universalism gave way to group-based politics - When inclusion turns into segregation - Jewish identity and the limits of identity-based politics - Why free speech remains essential for a pluralistic democracy From the episode: - Listen to Yascha’s podcast The Good Fight - Subscribe to Persuasion - Purchase Yascha’s book, The Identity Trap More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

Is Antizionism the new common denominator of the left? Political scientist Yascha Mounk, founder of Persuasion and author of The Identity Trap, joins Dan to discuss whether the rise of Zohran Mamdani is indicative of a growing connection between socialist causes and hostility towards Jews. Drawing on his personal history, Mounk explains the different iterations of Antisemitism on the left and discusses with Dan whether it is categorically different from what we’re increasingly seeing on the American right. The conversation went longer than normal, so stay tuned for part 2 in which Dan and Yascha discuss how identity politics consumed America and Jews should be wary of falling into the same trap. In this episode... - Yascha’s political upbringing - The history of Antizionism on the left  - What would Mamdani compromise on? - Is the IHRA’s definition of Antisemitism dangerous to free speech?  - The Western left’s silence on repression in Iran This episode was sponsored by SAPIR: Sign up for the SAPIR journal at sapirjournal.org/CallMeBack From the episode: - Listen to Yascha’s podcast The Good Fight - Subscribe to Persuasion - Purchase Yascha’s book, The Identity Trap More Ark Media: Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings.Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

This is a sneak peek from a recent conversation on Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Dan takes listener questions with Ilan, starting with reports that Prime Minister Netanyahu may have urged President Trump to delay a strike on Iran. They also touch on Saudi Arabia’s opposition to an attack, the link between conspiracy thinking and antisemitism, and whether there’s a path back to bipartisan support for Israel in American politics. To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org. More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo 

While President Trump has made multiple threats against the Islamic Republic’s regime due to its violent crackdown against protesters, the world still waits to see whether the United States will indeed follow through. Karim Sadjadpour, an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal join Dan to discuss what shape might an American attack take, whether it has in fact already started, how Iran might retaliate, and whether this could be the end of the Ayatollah regime. In this episode... - Under the communications shutdown, can we know what’s happening in Iran? - Israel expects an American action… But of what kind? - Is the Ayatollah regime crumbling?  - Is the United States already operating within Iran? - Getting into the mind of the Supreme Leader - How is Israel preparing?  - What should the West do? - Understanding Reza Pahlavi’s role This episode was sponsored by Birthright: Invest in the Jewish future today at onetripchangeseverything.com. From the episode: - Want to join Ark Media? Check out our careers page for new openings. - Nadav’s latest newsletter on Iran - Read Karim’s latest piece in Foreign Affairs More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Pattricio Spadaveccia, Yuval Semo 

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Read Karim's piece in Foreign Affairs: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/autumn-ayatollahs Subscribe to Nadav Eyal’s Substack: https://nadave.substack.com/ Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  As Iran enters another week of unrest, protests have continued to spread across the country, with demonstrations reported in multiple major cities. The regime has responded by sharply restricting internet and cellular access, making it difficult to assess the full scale of the crackdown as regional tensions rise and President Trump warns that the United States could intervene if protesters are killed. To discuss what this moment could mean for Iran’s future, Dan was joined by Karim Sadjadpour, an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a recurring guest on the podcast. Karim examines whether Iran may be nearing a tipping point, how the regime is attempting to suppress dissent, and what the fall of the Islamic Republic could look like, including the risks and challenges of political transition. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe here to ‘What’s Your Number’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Nadav Eyal’s Substack: https://nadave.substack.com/ Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  In a Call me Back bonus episode, we’re publishing this week’s episode of Ark Media podcast What’s Your Number, co-hosted by Yonatan Adiri and Yael Wissner-Levy. This week, Yonatan and Yael were joined by Daniel Schreiber, co-founder and CEO of Lemonade, and Founder and Chairman of the Mosaic Institute for AI Policy. Daniel, Yael, and Yonatan discuss how a future Israel economy might fare in an automated world between the risks of massive workforce displacement and the potential of turbocharged productivity. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Sapir Journal: https://sapirjournal.org/ Subscribe to Nadav Eyal’s Substack: https://nadave.substack.com/ Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Few people expected to start 2026 with images of Nicolas Maduro in a New York prison. In the days since Madouro’s capture, many have argued that the Trump administration’s operation in Venezuela is another signal that the global system we’ve known for the better part of a century has dramatically changed. From the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, to Israel’s two-year multifront battle, to a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan, geopolitical power dynamics are rapidly shifting. But to what end? Are we witnessing the emergence of a new world order? To discuss the historical context and implications of the geopolitical moment we find ourselves in, Dan was joined by Call me Back veteran Brett Stephens. Brett is an opinion columnist for the New York Times, a senior contributor to NBC News, and the inaugural editor in chief of the Sapir journal. Bret previously worked as a foreign affairs columnist for the Wall Street Journal, and from 2002-2004 served as the editor in chief of the Jerusalem Post.  (00:00) Introduction (05:32) Unpacking the “old world order” (13:43) Where does Europe stand? (16:55) What Europe could learn from Israel (19:11) The Middle East and Turkey’s growing influence (22:32) What to make of the mass protests in Iran (25:12) The illusion of a rules-based global order? (27:16) Trump: what he gets right and what he gets wrong (32:28) Are we heading toward a great power war? CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Subscribe to Nadav Eyal’s Substack: https://nadave.substack.com/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  For more than a week, hordes of Iranians have taken to the streets and risked their lives to protest the Islamic regime. The regime’s attempts to suppress the protests are failing; instead, the unrest has spread from the capital city of Tehran to other cities and provinces. On Friday, President Trump warned that the U.S. would intervene if the Iranian state kills anti-regime protestors.  Against this backdrop, on Saturday, in a shocking military escalation, U.S. special forces captured Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro and his wife while carrying out strikes on the capital city Caracas. Under Maduro, Venezuela has fostered warm ties with the Islamic Regime of Iran as well as Russia and China. Many see Trump’s action in Venezuela as an indication that he is willing to heighten American aggression against its enemies, including the Islamic Republic of Iran.  To discuss what to make of the societal upheaval in Iran – and how the historic events in Venezuela play a role here – Dan was joined by Karim Sadjadpour. Karim is an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a recurring guest on this podcast on all things Iran. Karim's piece on Foreign Affairs: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/autumn-ayatollahs (00:00) Introduction (05:20) What’s happening on the ground in Iran? (07:41) The conditions needed for regime collapse (15:26) The character of Iranian protestors (18:40) How did Israel’s attacks in June affect this moment? (22:47) Understanding the regime’s strategy to stay in power (25:03) How does the Venezuela operation impact the situation in Iran? (30:39) The fragility of the Islamic regime CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Nadav Eyal’s Substack: https://nadave.substack.com/ Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  As we enter a new year, news unfolds rapidly when it comes to Israel and the Middle East. Over the past few days, Iran has witnessed the country’s largest anti-regime protests in the past three years, with crowds taking to the streets in several cities and clashing with security forces. On Monday, Prime Minister Netanyahu met President Trump at Mar-a-Lago, for the leaders sixth meeting over the course of Trump’s second term. President Trump made several bold statements to the press, including warning that if Iran continues building its missile programs, the U.S. will take swift and severe action. President Trump also remarked on the Gaza ceasefire, saying he intends to move to phase two of his peace plan, but also threatening “hell to pay” if Hamas does not disarm quickly.  To unpack the dramatic events unfolding in Iran, and to analyze yet another meeting between President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, Dan was joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To support the Technion - Israel Institute of Technology: ats.org/callmeback Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Nadav Eyal’s Substack: https://nadave.substack.com/ Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn (00:00) Introduction (04:49) Dissecting the “settler” umbrella (10:11) The origins and evolution of the settler movement (14:32) 50 shades of ideology: the various segments of settlers (20:12) A hot potato: the reluctance to address Israeli extremist violence (29:40) The ideology that underlies this violence (37:18) How the Israeli government has changed its approach to extremist violence (44:55) Closing thoughts and Nadav’s new substack Today’s Episode:  Critics of Israel often emphasize the phenomenon of extremist settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. Yet it can be difficult to understand the scope of the problem from afar, given the anti-Israel bias and false reporting demonstrated by many media outlets, especially following October 7. To get to the bottom of this controversial issue — and to filter signal from noise — Dan sat down with Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal and Rabbi David Stav. Rabbi Stav is the co-founder and chairman of the Tzohar rabbinic organization and serves as Chief Rabbi of the city of Shoham in central Israel. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Benjamin’s previous episode on Call me Back: lnk.to/1kxj5B Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On this week’s episode of Inside Call me Back, we released the recording of an in-person conversation between Dan, Nadav Eyal and Tal Becker that took place a couple weeks ago at an event titled “Where do we go from here? The future of Israel and Jewish Peoplehood” at the Tenafly JCC. They discussed the different roots of antisemitism in the West, the resilience and defiance expressed in living a Jewish life, and the changing attitudes towards Israel among American Jews. The conversation was so meaty that we wanted to share a sneak peek with our wider Call me Back audience. If you want to catch the full conversation, consider joining Inside call me back using by going to inside.arkmedia.org.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmeback Subscribe to Inside Call me Back inside.arkmedia.org Follow Benjamin Birely on Instagram: HolyLandSpeaks Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Benjamin’s previous episode on Call me Back: lnk.to/1kxj5B Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Returning to the podcast for a special Christmas episode is Benjamin Birely, an American-Israeli Phd candidate and researcher in ancient historical texts at L’Orientale University in Naples, Italy.  Today, as the world celebrates Christmas, Benjamin takes us back more than 2,000 years to a land very familiar, to guide listeners through the Jewish environment that defined Jerusalem in 1 A.D and the world of Jesus Christ. The story of that period is one of factionalism, religious and political tensions, civil war, and geopolitical drama – and therefore one that will resonate with listeners today. (00:00) Introduction (03:58) the Jewish world of Jesus Christ (07:15) Jewish factionalism in 1 A.D. Jerusalem (15:13) Hellenization in Hasmonean Judaea (21:30) King Alexander, Queen Shlomtzion, and Judean Civil War (32:26) King Herod and the public mood (39:04) The environment that bred Jesus Christ (45:15) After Herod: rise of the Zealots CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts To order Walter Russell Mead's book: https://tinyurl.com/yc6vta9r To read Walter Russell Mead’s column: https://tinyurl.com/4cbhve36   Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Our guest today is Walter Russell Mead, an author, academic, and foreign policy expert. Walter is a Professor of Strategy and Statesmanship at the University of Florida’s Hamilton Center, a Fellow at the Hudson Institute, and a columnist for the Wall Street Journal. He and Dan unpacked the Trump administration’s approach to several foreign policy issues, from Russia-Ukraine, to China, to the Middle East. They also discussed Israel’s strategic position in the region following October 7th and its two year, multi-front war. (00:00) Introduction (04:48) Unpacking Trump’s National Security Strategy (15:06) Where does Trump’s NSS leave the Middle East? (20:57) How important is Middle Eastern oil to Trump? (23:45) How Trump sees America’s role in the world (26:57) Today’s antisemitism in a historic context (31:36) Demographic shifts: Muslim migrants in the West (37:09) The geopolitical trends to track CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  This week, I sat down with Ark Media contributor Amit Segal for our weekly episode of Inside Call me Back where we delved into some thought-provoking listener questions. The questions prompted an interesting conversation so we decided to share a sneak peak of Inside Call me Back with the larger Call me Back audience. If you enjoy this type of conversation, or if you simply want to support our work, please consider joining us on Inside Call me Back by following the link at the top of the show notes or going to Arkmedia.org.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management

Subscribe to For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA Support the Jewish Communal Fund: jcfny.org/ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast This morning I listened to the latest episode of For Heaven’s Sake—another Ark Media podcast co-hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi—and it immediately struck me as a must-listen for the Call me Back audience.  In this episode, Donniel and Yossi offer a thoughtful reflection on the uncertain future of Diaspora Jewry at this moment. I found myself returning to this conversion, wrestling with the difficult questions it raised. I leave the rest to Yossi and Donniel, and please don’t forget to subscribe to For Heaven’s Sake at - https://lnk.to/rfGlrA CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATRICIO SPADAVECCHIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support the Foundation of Jewish Camp: www.jewishcamp.org/callmeback Support American Friends of the Israeli Navy SEALs: AFINS.us/warriorcare   Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Sunday, two gunmen opened fire on a crowd of Jews gathered to celebrate the first night of Hanukkah at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia. As of now, there are 16 confirmed deaths, and roughly 40 wounded, with the victims ranging from ages 10 to 87. It’s one of the deadliest attacks on Jews in the diaspora over the past few decades. The perpetrators are believed to be a father and son of Muslim, Pakestani origin. One was neutralized on scene and the other was shot and is in critical condition.  To discuss the antisemitic horror that unfolded in Sydney, Dan was joined by  two members of the local Jewish community – Jeremy Leibler, President of the Zionist Federation of Australia, and Nomi Kaltmann, Australian lawyer and journalist for various Jewish and Israeli outlets, as well as Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal.  (00:00) Introduction (05:35) What we know about the Sydney massacre (10:18) Is antisemitic violence being fostered by hostile countries? (16:57) The character of Australian Jewry (22:59) What should Israel do to respond? (31:35) Has the Australian government failed its Jewish community? (43:19) Will we see a wave of Australian Jews making Aliyah? (47:17) How do Australian Jews feel toward their country? (52:05) The importance of Jewish diaspora communities (55:46) Qatar’s response to the massacre CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATTRICIO SPADAVECCIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside  Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP  Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/  Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast  Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA  ‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On today’s episode, Dan shares a preview of a recent conversation from Inside Call Me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Dan is joined by Dr. Tal Becker to respond to listener questions on some of the most pressing issues facing Israel today. They discuss the dangers of internal Israeli divisions, whether Jewish education can build greater resilience, and how to think about the question of whether Israel has “won” the war against Hamas. To hear the full conversation, join INSIDE Call Me Back by following the link in the description or visiting ARKMEDIA.ORG. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATTRICIO SPADAVECCIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support the Jewish Communal Fund: jcfny.org/ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On today’s episode, Dan was joined by Israeli President Isaac Herzog, who has served in office since 2021, and has overseen various national crises. They discussed the meaning of the Israeli presidency and how Herzog has navigated his leadership through the October 7th massacre and Israel’s following multi-front war. They also spoke about Prime Minister Netanyahu’s request of President Herzog for a pardon in his years-long corruption trial, touching on precedents in Israeli history of presidential pardons.  (00:00) Introduction (04:55) The role of the Israeli president (10:04) Netanyahu’s request for a pardon, and precedents in Israeli history (14:27) Israel’s position in the Middle East (16:49) Addressing Mamdani and global antisemitism (20:26) The attempt to rename Herzog park in Ireland (22:03) How President Herzog wants to be remembered CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATTRICIO SPADAVECCIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

This episode was presented by UJA. Support UJA’s work at UJA.org Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  We are less than a week away from the beginning of Hanukkah. Keeping with recent Call me Back tradition, Dan was joined by Rachel Goldberg-Polin to discuss the timeless meaning of the Hanukkah story. What does it say about the conflict Jews face today? Can the few really defeat the many? And why are Jews so obsessed with counting? (00:00) Introduction (04:20) Dedicating the episode to Ran Gvili (06:59) Setting the stage for the story of Hanukkah (15:17) How the Jews responded to Hellenization (19:00) Toga or Torah: the purest form of religion persecution (24:57) So what’s the real story… (27:57) Hanukkah is a time for Jewish PDA (33:24) Lighting the menorah throughout Jewish history (39:46) The message of Hanukkah: we have to draw a line (46:29) Jewish polarization and our obsession with counting CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATTRICIO SPADAVECCIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Listen to What’s Your Number: lnk.to/GsOESP Seth Siegel in the Wall Street Journal: wsj.com/opinion/hatred-of-israel-caused-irans-water-crisis-4e566bac Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s episode:  In a Call me Back bonus episode, we’re publishing this week’s episode of Ark Media podcast What’s Your Number, co-hosted by Yonatan Adiri and Michal Lev-Ram. This week, Yonatan and Michal were joined by Seth Siegel, a leading voice on water policy and innovation, to unpack the massive role that water plays in the Middle East’s economic trajectory. They also discussed how Iran’s hatred of Israel has exacerbated its escalating water crisis — which Seth wrote about in a recent op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS AND PATTRICIO SPADAVECCIA - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Associate Producer GABE SILVERSTEIN - Community Management YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support the Jewish Communal Fund: jcfny.org/ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts To order Ari Shavit’s book, My Promised Land: tinyurl.com/5yfxtna9 Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s episode:  Benjamin Netanyahu towers over Israeli politics like no other living leader. Everything about him – from his vision to his demeanor, from his entanglement with Israel’s legal system to his personal life – is a source for division. So much so that he became the litmus test by which Israel’s political tribes are divided.  Dan was joined by Israeli journalist and author Ari Shavit to discuss how Netanyahu came to embody Israel’s political divide, what his pardon request from President Herzog means for his future, and whether Israelis can reach unity in a post-Netanyahu world. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer BRITTANY COHEN - Production Manager MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support the Foundation of Jewish Camp: www.jewishcamp.org/callmeback Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn (00:00) Introduction (02:25) First reactions to Netanyahu’s plea (07:00) Examining the precedents in Israeli presidential pardons (11:23) What does Netanyahu hope to achieve? (16:59) The case for pardoning Netanyahu (19:26) The cases against Netanyahu, and why the trial is taking so long (26:35) Does this all boil down to hatred of Netanyahu? (31:30) Is the widespread hatred of Netanyahu justified? (40:33) Unpacking the political landscape (45:59) Herzog’s options and his legacy Today’s episode:  On Sunday, Prime Minister Netanyahu submitted a formal request to President Isaac Herzog for a pardon in Netanyahu’s years-long corruption trial. The documents included an 111-page letter written by Netanyahu’s lawyer Amit Hadad, in which he argued that a pardon would allow the Prime Minister to focus squarely on advancing Israel’s interest and would help heal divisions within Israeli society. Notably, Netanyahu’s letter does not include an apology or admission of guilt. President Herzog issued an official response, stating, “After receiving all of the relevant opinions, the president will responsibly and sincerely consider the request.”  To unpack the details and implications of Netanyahu’s request for a pardon, Dan was joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts City Journal's college ranking: https://collegerankings.city-journal.org/ The Wall St. Journal on rethinking higher ed: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/college-rankings-manhattan-institute-universities-free-speech-d9df60e2?mod=opinion_lead_pos1 City Journal's announcement: https://www.city-journal.org/article/2025-college-rankings Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s episode:  Over the past few years, we’ve witnessed a deterioration within elite, higher education. From the explosion in antisemitism, to the entrenchment of wrongheaded DEI policies, many Americans have begun to doubt the real value of an elite college degree. Last month, the Manhattan Institute – a public policy thinktank in New York City – launched its inaugural college rankings list that takes into account various factors that other popular rankings lists often don’t, such as the rigor of a school’s curriculum as well as the ideological balance of the school’s student body and professors. To discuss this new rankings system, Dan was joined by Reihan Salam, president of the Manhattan Institute, and Kevin Wallstein, Professor of Political Science at California State University and an Adjunct Fellow at the Manhattan Institute.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support American Friends of the Israeli Navy SEALs: AFINS.us/warriorcare   Scott Galloway's book, 'Notes on Being a Man': https://tinyurl.com/mtzfuz87 Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s episode:  Our guest today is Professor Scott Galloway, whose recently published book Notes on Being a Man explores what it means to be a man in contemporary America. Dan and Scott discussed the virtues and dangers of masculinity and where these ideas intersect with Scott’s Jewish identity, which has evolved following October 7th.  Scott has founded nine companies and authored several best-selling books. He is host of the Prof G Pod and co-host of Pivot. He also publishes the No Mercy / No Malice newsletter.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Visit the Tikvah Fund, who hosted this live event: https://lp.tikvah.org/jlc-2025 Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s episode:  Last week, Dan was awarded the Tikvah Fund’s 2025 Herzl Prize alongside Bari Weiss, founder and CEO of The Free Press and editor-in-chief of CBS news, and Ben Shapiro, co-founder of the Daily Wire and host of The Ben Shapiro Show. The three of them sat down for a conversation moderated by Dr. Jonathan Silver, the Chief Programming Officer of Tikvah and editor of Mosaic. They discussed a wide range of issues affecting the Jewish world, with a specific focus on the American political landscape. To learn more about Tikvah: : tikvah.org/ To subscribe to The Free Press: www.thefp.com To subscribe to The Daily Wire: www.dailywire.com  (00:00) Introduction (06:18) Defining the ideological crossroads we are at (14:17) Antisemitism in online culture vs. electoral politics (24:40) How Jewish values can guide lost youth (29:55) Why Israel must operate from a position of strength (33:57) Support for Israel is America First (40:57) Why Bari took the job at CBS news (48:44) Ben’s mission at the Daily Wire (51:51) The importance of Jewish education (59:36) Raising pro-America and pro-Jewish children CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support the Jewish Communal Fund: jcfny.org/ Support the Foundation of Jewish Camp: www.jewishcamp.org/callmeback Apply to become Ark Media’s Production Manager: tinyurl.com/mthkpmna Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s episode:  On Monday, the United Nations Security Council voted to adopt the US-proposed resolution authorizing the establishment of an International Stabilization Force in Gaza, as outlined by President Trump’s 20-point peace plan. The resolution allows for Trump’s “board of peace” to oversee multinational peacekeeping forces, Palestinian technocrats, and a local police force that would govern Gaza for a period of two years, while potentially paving a path for a Palestinian state. On Tuesday, President Trump met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman at the White House. Speaking to reporters from the Oval Office, MBS stated that Riyadh would like to join the Abraham Accords but must see a pathway toward a two-state solution. Also, Trump confirmed that the United States will sell F-35 “stealth” jets to Saudi Arabia, prompting concern from Israel’s defense establishment, with the Israeli Air Force saying the deal jeopardizes Israel’s air superiority. To discuss the developments unfolding with regards to Israel and the Middle East and the possibility of Palestinian statehood, Dan was joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmeback Apply to become Ark Media’s Production Manager: https://tinyurl.com/mthkpmna Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  The Israel-Hamas ceasefire has been in place for just over a month. Despite the occasional flare-ups, it’s been a time of relatively few sirens (by Israeli standards). As President Trump pushes forward with his peace plan and Israel’s regional enemies seek to gain a new advantage, Dan sat down with Dr. Micah Goodman to figure out whether two years of war have left the Jewish state stronger, weaker, or both. In other words, did Israel win? Micah Goodman is the author of seven best seller books and the co-host of the Mifleget Hamachshavot podcast in Hebrew with Efrat Shapira-Rosenberg. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Apply to become Ark Media’s Production Manager: https://tinyurl.com/mthkpmna Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=inside Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Don’t Feed the Lion: amazon.com/Dont-Feed-Arcadia-Childrens-Books/dp/1467196215 Unholy podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unholy-two-jews-on-the-news/id1548441108 Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  This week, Dan sat down with Yonit Levy and Bianna Golodryga, who recently published a children’s novel, Don’t Feed the Lion, which focuses on a group of teenagers facing the rising tide of antisemitism and having to find their way through the storm. Despite its dark theme, the book is a story full of love, resilience, and self-discovery. Yonit Levy is the lead news anchor at Israel’s Channel 12 and co-host of the UnHoly Podcast. Bianna Golodryga is a news anchor and global affairs analyst at CNN.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

SUBSCRIBE HERE to Donniel and Yossi's podcast, For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA Learn more about opening a JCF charitable fund today for flexible and strategic giving at jcfny.org Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Israel was founded on a common story and a shared ethos. But what happens when the country can no longer agree on which story should shape its future? In part one of this conversation, Yossi Klein Halevi and Rabbi Donniel Hartman, hosts of For Heaven’s Sake, join Dan from across the Ark Media universe to discuss the competing narratives that tear Israel apart. From liberal democracy to theocratic Messianism. Can a new consensus emerge? Also: stay tuned for part two of this conversation, where the three ask whether some American Jews are giving up on Israel. (00:00) Introduction (09:03) From labor zionism to religious zionism (12:55) The stories that define Israel’s social camps  (17:50) Why Israel has little margin for error (19:32) The Israeli mainstream and the Likud (28:03) How Israelis think about a Palestinian state (31:14) The relationship between the Jewish and Israeli identities (37:30) Can Naftali Bennett unite Israeli society? (41:27) Israel’s next big story (45:24) The strength of Israeli society CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

SUBSCRIBE HERE to Donniel and Yossi's podcast, For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Learn more about opening a JCF charitable fund today for flexible and strategic giving at jcfny.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  This is part two of Dan’s conversation with For Heaven’s Sake hosts Yossi Klein Halevi and Rabbi Donniel Hartman. Early exit polls indicate that almost a third of New York’s Jewish voters may have voted for Zohran Mamdani, who had previously said that Antizionism is central to his worldview, for mayor of the city with the largest Jewish population outside Israel. Are American Jews starting to give up on Israel? Dan, Yossi, and Donniel debate. Make sure to also catch part one of this conversation, where the three discuss the narratives that split Israeli society. (00:00) Introduction (03:08) Why did so many young Jews turn on Israel? (08:45) Confronting the hard reality of war (10:25) What to make of Jews struggling with Israel (16:16) Managing the electoral base during war (18:20) Ensuring Israel remains Jewish and democratic (22:12) Did Mamdani voters betray American Jews? CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

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This episode was presented by UJA. Support UJA’s work at UJA.org Listen to Yonatan and Michal’s podcast, What’s Your Number?: lnk.to/GsOESP Apply to become Ark Media’s Production Manager: https://tinyurl.com/mthkpmna Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://tinyurl.com/insideCMB Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Yonatan’s article on Ynet: www.ynetnews.com/opinions-analysis/article/r1izgwicex Bernard Lewis books: https://tinyurl.com/5f55cnbs Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’:arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  In a recent piece for Yedioth Achronot, Ark Media’s very own Yonatan Adiri argues that while Hamas’s military capabilities have been largely destroyed, it has realized that real power has shifted from the battlefield to the international arena. By integrating into the institutions of the Palestinian Authority and leveraging its support from Qatar and Turkey to gain legitimacy, Hamas can manifest its charter through political and diplomatic means - trading its rockets for stamps, and its tunnels for offices. On today’s episode, Yonatan joins Dan to discuss Hamas’ position after two years of war and the evolving dynamics between Hamas, Qatar, and Turkey.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To listen to the full version of this conversation, subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://tinyurl.com/insideCMB Learn more about opening a JCF charitable fund today for flexible and strategic giving at jcfny.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Jonah Goldberg in the LA Times: latimes.com/opinion/story/2025-10-28/donald-trump-dictator Jonah Goldberg's The Remnant podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-remnant-with-jonah-goldberg/id1291144720 Jonah Goldberg's Suicide of the West: https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-West-Tribalism-Nationalism-Destroying/dp/1101904933 Zineb Riboua at The Free Press on the right's misconceptions about Mamdani: https://www.thefp.com/p/what-the-right-gets-wrong-about-zohran Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  This is a sneak peek into Friday’s members-only INSIDE Call me Back episode with Jonah Goldberg. The episode explored the growing pressure on Jews coming from both ends of the American political spectrum, and due to the importance of this conversation we decided to unlock a part of it for our listeners. This past Tuesday, democratic candidate Zohran Mamdani won the race for mayor of New York City, home to the largest number of Jews outside Israel. Mamdani is a 34-year old self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist and staunch anti-Zionist. His election has caused many Jewish New Yorkers to fear for the future of communal life in their city. Meanwhile, over recent months, we have witnessed a disturbing rise in unabashed antisemitism on the Right. Just last week, Tucker Carlson interviewed far-right influencer Nick Fuentes, who has been open about his support for both Hitler and Stalin.  To discuss the precarious situation of diaspora Jews as they're squeezed between the far left and the far right, Dan was joined by Jonah Goldberg. Jonah is the editor in chief and co-founder of The Dispatch and author of multiple books on political history and conservative ideas, including Suicide of the West and Liberal Fascism. He’s also the host of the indispensable podcast, The Remnant. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://tinyurl.com/insideCMB Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Reihan Salam's piece in The Free Press: thefp.com/p/making-sense-of-mamdani Reihan Salam's piece in the Wall Street Journal: wsj.com/politics/elections/downwardly-mobile-elites-love-zohran-mamdani-37729120 Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  The New York City mayoral election will conclude this Tuesday, November 4th. The front-runner, 34-year old Zohran Mamdani, is a democratic socialist and a staunch anti-Zionist who is already being hailed as the future of the Democratic Party. Joining us to discuss the New York City mayoral election – and its implications both nationally and globally – is Reihan Salam. Reihan is the president of the Manhattan Institute, a think tank that conducts policy research focused on urban and domestic affairs. Reihan previously served as the executive editor of the national review. He has written for various outlets, including the Wall Street Journal, The Free Press, and VICE. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Mark Gerson’s Book, God Was Right: amazon.com/God-Was-Right-Modern-Science/dp/1637746172 Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://tinyurl.com/insideCMB Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  In a less news-bound episode than usual, Dan was joined by Mark Gerson to discuss his new book God Was Right: How Modern Social Science Proves the Torah is True. Mark is a Jewish-American investor and philanthropist. He is also the co-founder of African Mission Healthcare Foundation and United Hatzallah. He and Dan talked about how the Torah can be seen as a self-help guide, answering life’s perennial questions, including how to find the right spouse, how to combat loneliness, how to dress up for success, and why we should embrace resilience and dignity over victimhood and honor culture. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Benjamin Birely, a classical historian and the influencer behind HolyLandSpeaks, joins Dan to discuss why being a Jew in Italy these days is to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. From signs outside businesses announcing that “Zionists are not welcome,” to Jewish academics being rejected from public spaces, to cultural events getting hijacked by the anti-Israel cause, the entire country seems to be consumed by militant anti-Zionism. Should Italian Jew be worried about their future? And what does this tell us about the broader political mood in the West? CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Update: book promotion is now sold out. Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ The Aner Shapiro Foundation: https://anershapiro.com/english/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  This past Thursday, Dan sat down with Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal for a live Call me Back conversion at the Streicker Center in New York City. They discussed a range of issues related to Israeli and Jewish society and the October 7 war. They also took questions from some Inside Call me Back subscribers who were in the room.  (00:00) Introduction (07:20) Summarizing the past two years (10:51) The heroism of Aner Shapira (14:42) Israel’s strength after the horror of October 7 (20:48) Diaspora Jews under attack (27:15) International criticism of Israel and Israeli self-examination (42:25) Debate on the hostage dilemma  (52:14) The next few months Gaza (57:24) Will Netanyahu stay in power? (1:02:55) Amit’s book (A Call at 4am) CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support American Friends of Israeli Navy Seals: AFINS.us/warriorcare Register here for the Live Call me Back event at the Streicker Center on Thursday Oct 23: https://t.co/Y5tCz9uXwo Ronen Bergman and Adam Rasgon’s piece in The NYT: https://bit.ly/475B5nF Ilan Benatar’s essay on Sinwar’s plan: https://medium.com/@ilanbenatar/the-story-is-the-war-f6482ab94c1f Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On today’s episode, we are joined by Israeli journalist and Call me Back veteran Ronen Bergman. Ronen recently published a piece for the New York Times titled “A Memo in a Bunker, Intercepted Communications and Hamas’ Oct. 7 Plans,” in which he and his co-author Adam Rasgon discuss a recently uncovered six-page memo from August of 2024, which Israeli officials believe was written by Yayha Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza and main architect of the October 7 massacre. Dan and Ronen discuss how this memo – as well as other documents discovered earlier in the war – shed light onto Hamas’s goals in launching the attack, and whether, in retrospect, they succeeded.    (00:00) - Introduction (07:23) - Sinwar’s memo recently discovered in Gaza (09:45) - How Hamas meticulously documented its activity (12:42) - How do we know this was written by Sinwar? (13:51) - What this document directed Hamas forces to do  (15:15) - Hamas terrorists ordered to record and broadcast their crimes (20:20) - Sinwar’s strategy behind broadcasting October 7 (26:03) - What Sinwar got right, and what he got wrong (28:53) - How Hamas activated support worldwide (33:39) - 10 Hamas protocols obtained by the IDF in January, 2024 (37:25) - How Hamas managed to deceive Israel (38:43) - How Hamas chose the date of October 7, 2023 (42:47) - Collaboration between Hamas in Doha and in Gaza (44:33) - Sinwar’s goal of igniting regional war (46:17) - Disrupting Saudi normalization and releasing Palestinian prisoners  (49:04) - Sinwar succeeded at terrifying Israelis (50:46) - The next phase in Gaza will determine the outcome of the war   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support UJA, this episode's sponsor: UJA.org Register here for the Live Call me Back event at the Streicker Center on Thursday Oct 23: https://t.co/Y5tCz9uXwo Subscribe here to INSIDE Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Sunday, Palestinian operatives attacked Israeli forces operating in the Rafah area, killing two soldiers and wounding three more. The IDF troops were operating on the Eastern side of the Yellow Line – an area which remains under Israeli control according to the terms of the ceasefire deal. The IDF responded with dozens of strikes on Hamas targets throughout Gaza.  Meanwhile, since the ceasefire came into effect last Monday, Hamas has been conducting public executions of Palestinians who oppose their rule. To discuss what’s been unfolding in Gaza over the past week, Dan was joined by Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib and Joseph Braude. Ahmed grew up in Gaza and left in 2005. He is one an outspoken critic of Hamas and runs the organization Realign for Palestine, which promotes de-radicalization of Palestinian society. Joseph is the President of the Center for Peace Communications, which has amplified anti-Hamas voices in Gaza throughout this war.   00:00 Introduction 06:48 What happened during the brief rupture in the Gaza ceasefire? 09:49 Will Hamas return the bodies of all deceased hostages? 10:40 Anti-Hamas factions in Gaza 12:42 The security dilemmas Gazan civilians face 16:47 How ceasefires increase the risk of Hamas violence against dissidents 18:19 Public support for Hamas among Gazans 22:03 Can there be an anti-Hamas uprising in Gaza? 27:07 International responses to Trump's Gaza plan and obstacles of reconstruction 36:25 The Arab world's shifting attitude toward Hamas 41:03 Predictions for the future of Gaza   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Register here for the Live Call me Back event at the Streicker Center on Thursday Oct 23: https://t.co/Y5tCz9uXwo Subscribe here to INSIDE Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Rabbi Angela Buchdahl's book: https://tinyurl.com/4m4mrfft Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  For a bonus episode, Dan was joined by Rabbi Angela Buchdahl to discuss her new book Heart of a Stranger: An Unlikely Rabbi’s Story of Faith, Identity, and Belonging. Rabbi Buchdahl is the senior rabbi at Central Synagogue in New York City. She was the first East-Asian to be ordained as a rabbi, and has received national recognition for her Jewish leadership, including being listed as one of Newsweek’s “50 most influential rabbis.” She shares her journey from feeling like an outsider to Judaism to becoming a contemporary Jewish leader. They also discuss how Rabbi Buchdahl guided her congregation after Oct. 7 and how the past two years have changed the Jewish community around her.  00:00 Introduction 06:33 Grief After October 7 09:21 Engaging with the Jewish community post-October 7 11:14 Facing antisemitism in America 12:21 Rabbi Buchdahl's first sermon after October 7 15:55 Progressive dilemmas and the Israeli/Palestinian narratives 18:02 Visiting Israel and reflecting on Jewish peoplehood 21:14 Rabbi Buchdahl's Jewish journey 30:48 Diaspora versus Israeli Jewish perspectives 35:08 The mitzvah of loving oneself as a prerequisite for loving others 37:06 Remaining spiritual, not just political 40:58 Rebuilding after trauma CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

LIVE EPISODE TAPING with Dan, Nadav & Amit DATE: Thursday October 23 at 8:30 pm LOCATION: Streicker Center Register here With the implementation of the ceasefire and all the living hostages back home, where do Israel, Gaza, the Arab States, and US foreign policy go from here? From Jerusalem to Washington, there are still many unanswered questions, which will be the focus of this live podcast taping. Join Dan Senor and two veteran Israeli journalists and regular Call Me Back contributors: Nadav Eyal of Yedioth Achronot and Amit Segal of Israel’s Channel 12 News & Israel HaYom. Amit is the author of the new book, A Call at 4 AM: Thirteen Prime Ministers and the Crucial Decisions that Shaped Israeli Politics. Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Today we are joined by author and journalist Ari Shavit, who has been closely following the making of the hostage-ceasefire deal. Ari and Dan discuss what happened behind the scenes that took us from the seemingly intractable situation of the past two years to suddenly seeing our hostages return and regional leaders, as well as President Trump, touting a new era of hope and peace. 00:00 Introduction 05:33 Reacting to the hostages' return 13:15 Trump's initial Gaza policy 16:56 The effect of the "Gaza Riviera Plan" on regional actors 22:03 Hamas' approach to negotiations 24:45 The transformative role of the failed Israeli strike in Doha 30:56 Mediation roles of Egypt, Turkey, and Qatar 34:33 How Trump forced a full hostage deal 37:08 The "two Gaza solution" CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmeback Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Monday, October 13th, all 20 live hostages were returned to Israel and reunited with their families after two years in Hamas captivity. Israelis all over the country erupted in cheer, with tens of thousands of people in Tel Aviv’s hostage square celebrating as news of returns trickled in. Hamas has also handed over just 4 of the 28 bodies of deceased hostages, in what Israel is calling a “blatant breach” of the ceasefire agreement.  While all of this unfolded, President Trump landed in Israel, where he met with former hostages and hostage families and gave an hour-long speech at the Knesset in which he lauded his administration’s support for Israel and Prime Minister Netanyahu’s leadership throughout this war. President Trump then traveled to Sharm El-Sheikh in Egypt, where European, Arab, and Muslim leaders are meeting to discuss Trump’s plan for the future of Gaza.  To discuss all the many dramatic events that took place on this historic day, in which President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu declared that the war is over, Dan was joined by Ark Media Contributor Nadav Eyal and International Law Expert Tal Becker.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

A Call at 4am by Amit Segal: amazon.com/Call-AM-Thirteen-Ministers-Decisions/dp/B0F316MDXV Rachel Goldberg-Polin's speech on Oct 11th, 2025 - https://youtu.be/VyTIiBz7W20?si=SjSnGq_glvPnXLUo  Steve Witkoff’s, Jared Kushner’s, and Ivanka Trump’s speeches at Hostage Square: mako.co.il/news-israel/2025_q4/Article-5da0684b793d991027.htm Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Ark Media Contributor Amit Segal released a new book titled A Call at 4am, in which he dives into Israel’s thirteen prime ministers and the most critical moments that shaped Israeli history. Dan sat down with Amit to discuss some of the book’s most dramatic moments, from Golda Meir’s sleepless nights before the Yom Kippur War to Amit’s personal conversation with Benjamin Netanyahu shortly after the October 7 attack. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmeback Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of President Trump’s plan to end the Gaza war which requires the release of all remaining living hostages within 72 hours. Israelis have responded with an overwhelming outpour of emotion. But what do we really know about the plan and its implications for the future of the region? Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal join Dan to unpack what we know and what we don’t at this historical juncture.   00:00 Introduction  04:40 The emotional climate in Israel 08:32 Details of the ceasefire deal and hostage release 12:21 The limits of the deal 14:29 Trump’s goals of hostage returns and regional peace 18:49 U.S.-Israeli partnership under Trump 23:24 External pressure on Hamas in the lead-up to the deal 24:45 How Hamas’ is narrating the outcome of the war 26:33 Regional actors’ stakes and goals: Qatar, Turkey, Egypt 30:08 What this means for Israel’s internal politics 38:47 Israeli public’s thirst for reform  43:21 Jewish people and the Israeli-Diaspora relationship   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts A Call at 4am by Amit Segal: amazon.com/Call-AM-Thirteen-Ministers-Decisions/dp/B0F316MDXV Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Israel and Hamas have reached an agreement tonight to end the Gaza war based on the outline of President Trump’s plan. The agreement includes the imminent release of all remaining living hostages in Gaza in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. In an emergency pod, Ark Media Correspondent Nadav Eyal joins Dan to share his initial impressions of the first phase of the deal, what this means for the short and long term balance of power in the region, and whether Hamas gets to claim this as a victory. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Please follow this link to support our sponsor, UJA Federation of New York: https://bit.ly/donate-to-uja  Making Sense with Sam Harris: samharris.org/podcasts Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrASubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  This Tuesday will mark the two-year anniversary of the October 7 massacre, in which thousands of Hamas terrorists infiltrated Southern Israel, slaughtering over 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 250 hostage. It was the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. Since then, we’ve witnessed several fronts of war against Israel, a terrifying rise in global antisemitism, and an effort to isolate Israel diplomatically, culturally, and economically, and much more.  To reflect on some of the major events and the cultural currents that have swept the world since October 7, 2023, Dan sat down with Sam Harris for a conversation being released as a simulcast both on Call me Back as well as Sam’s podcast, Making Sense. Sam is a philosopher, neuroscientist, author, and public intellectual. He focuses on topics of rationality, religion, politics, and ethics, and has been a fierce critic of the rise in radical, fundamentalist islam.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe here to For Heaven’s Sake: lnk.to/ZtetEF Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Today’s Episode:  This year’s Yom Kippur landed right on our production schedule, so we did not tape a Call me Back episode. It’s a good opportunity to share with you the most recent episode of For Heaven’s Sake, a collaboration of Ark Media with our partners at the Shalom Hartman Institute -  Yossi Klein Halevi and Donniel Hartmen.  Just before Yom Kippur, on Wednesday, our team at Ark Media published an episode of For Heaven’s Sake, which is an Ark Media podcast, co-hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi of the Shalom Hartman Institute. In this episode, titled “A New Era?”, Donniel and Yossi reflected on President Trump’s plan for the end of the Gaza War.  We found the episode particularly insightful and emblematic of the types of profound conversations Donniel and Yossi typically have on For Heaven’s Sake, so we decided to release it on the Call me Back feed as well.   

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  President Trump met with Netanyahu in the White House on Monday to discuss the plan to end the Gaza war. The proposal includes the immediate and unconditional return of all remaining hostages and the complete demilitarization of the strip. Nadav Eyal joins Dan to evaluate the feasibility of the plan, whether Netanyahu will be able to sell it to his government, and what we can realistically expect to see next. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Monday, September 29, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu are set to meet at the White House. Because of this potentially game-changing meeting, we decided to postpone our usual Monday episode by a day so that we can delve into all that’s revealed (or not) tomorrow in Washington D.C. Instead we’re releasing a brief news-update to keep listeners up-to-date on the Israel-related news that’s unfolded over the past few days. Be sure to catch the next Call me Back episode, which we’ll tape shortly after Monday’s White House meeting.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Over the past few days, France, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, and several other countries formally recognized a Palestinian State at the United Nations General Assembly in New York. The practical implications of this “diplomatic wave” are yet to be seen, but the Israeli Government is taking the move seriously, as many interpret Palestinian recognition as a reward for Hamas’ terrorism. Meanwhile, the IDF continues its operations in Gaza City. To discuss the implications of recognizing Palestinian statehood and the evolving situation in Gaza, Dan was joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  The United Nations is set to recognize a Palestinian state on Monday. But what does that actually mean? What kind of legal power will this recognition hold? And will Hamas see it as a victory, cementing Oct. 7 as Palestinian independence day? Tal Becker, vice president of Hartman Institute in Jerusalem and a multi-decade veteran of Israeli peace process teams, joins Dan to discuss the dangers of performative diplomacy and the moral hazard of an unconditional recognition of Palestinian statehood.  Tal was previously a diplomatic advisor to numerous Israeli governments, and a legal advisor to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and to the IDF.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To support American Friends of Israel Navy SEALS: AFINS.us/warriorcare Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Monday night, the IDF began its highly anticipated incursion into Gaza City, which has been largely untouched by Israel until recent days. The IDF announced that 40% of Gaza City’s roughly one million people have already evacuated. Meanwhile, the Hostages and Missing Families Forum declared a “state of emergency” amid fears that Israel’s invasion of Gaza City jeopardizes the remaining 48 hostages.  On today’s episode, we are joined by Ark Media Contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal to discuss this major development. What does the IDF’s incursion into Gaza City mean for the future of the war, the fate of the hostages, and Israel’s global standing? (00:00) Introduction (04:44) American Friends of Israel Navy Seals (07:11) What are Israel’s operational goals? (12:39) What is the plan? (15:45) Why the operation is so controversial (21:08) Israeli public opinion and the chances for a deal (30:23) Has the Israeli government given up on the hostages? (32:09) Fallout from the Doha operation (39:16) Israel’s standing in the region (43:50) What happens now? CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To support the Technion - Israel Institute of Technology: ats.org/callmeback Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  The High Holidays are approaching. Rosh HaShana begins a week from today, on Monday, September 22, and Yom Kippur follows soon after. To do some Jewish learning in preparation for these holidays, Dan welcomed back Rachel Goldberg-Polin, who helped Call me Back listeners navigate Pesach and Sukkot this past year.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Tuesday, the Israeli Airforce carried out strikes on a building in Doha, Qatar, where Hamas’s top leaders were believed to be gathered to discuss the recent American Gaza ceasefire proposal. As of now, it seems unlikely that Israel managed to eliminate its targets.  Qatar called the attack a “violation of all laws and norms.” Other Arab states, including Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Jordan, and Turkey strongly condemned the attack as well. President Trump gave somewhat contradictory statements on the topic, expressing disapproval at Israel’s decision while calling it an opportunity for peace. Joining us to discuss how the strike and its possible results impacts Israel’s position in the Gaza war and the region, we were joined by Ark Media Contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal and Call me Back Veteran Ronen Bergman. 00:00 Introduction 03:41 What do we know so far about the Doha attack? 10:11 How Israel can measure success 13:43 What was Israel’s goal? 18:58 Did the US know about the attack in advance? 24:41 This attack sends a message  25:59 How the assassination attempt failed  27:39 What is Israel’s strategy? 28:56 The implications for Israel’s relationship with the Gulf  34:13 When will we know if Hamas leaders were killed? CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

On Tuesday, September 9, Israel struck a building in Doha – the capital city of Qatar – where senior Hamas leaders were believed to be gathered to discuss the recent American ceasefire proposal.  We will cover this major development at length in our Thursday episode with Amit and Nadav. Until then, Dan sent a voice memo to Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal, asking: what now? How has Israel’s strike on Qatar changed the landscape for the war in Gaza? To learn more about our premium subscription, Inside Call me Back, please go to inside.arkmedia.org CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmeback To register for Wednesday’s (09/10) Streicker Center event featuring Sarah Hurwitz, Dara Horn, Abigail Pogrebin, and Dan Senor:  streicker.nyc/events/hurwitz To order As a Jew: Reclaiming Our Story From Those Who Blame, Shame, and Try to Erase Us: sarahhurwitz.net/books/as-a-jew Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org You can listen to more from Sarah Hurwitz on the Hartman's Institute's Identity Crisis podcast here: https://link.chtbl.com/Identity-Crisis-CMB Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On today’s episode we are joined by Sarah Hurwitz, author of the new book  As a Jew: Reclaiming Our Story From Those Who Blame, Shame, and Try to Erase Us. It is an urgent exploration of how antisemitism has shaped Jewish identity and how Jews can reclaim their tradition. Sarah was a senior speechwriter in the White House under President Obama, including as Chief Speechwriter for Michelle Obama from 2010-2017. (00:00) Introduction (05:30) How American Jews identify with Judaism (08:35) Sarah’s Jewish journey (11:36) Why “cultural Judaism” isn’t enough (13:00) What prompted Sarah to write As a Jew (18:00) The phenomenon of antizionist Jews (25:12) Blaming Jews for antisemitism  (29:00) Normalizing Israeli history (33:08) How Jewish kids will experience Israel (38:47) Antisemitism on the Right (40:35) Using Jewish wisdom in modern American life  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  October 7, 2023 was Israel’s biggest security failure since the country’s founding. Over the past twenty-three months, we’ve discovered a lot about how Hamas terrorists managed to penetrate deep into Israel’s borders. But there’s still much the public does not yet know or understand.  On today’s episode we are joined by Israeli journalist Yaakov Katz to discuss how a nation known worldwide for its security capabilities failed so monumentally on October 7. Yaakov is the former editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post and founder of the Middle East American Dialogue, a conference that brings together American and Middle Eastern leaders.   While Israel Slept by Yaakov Katz & Amir Bohbot: https://a.co/d/6xUDPa6  TORN: The Israel-Palestine Poster War on NYC Streets: https://www.torn-film.com/  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Nadav’s Op-ed in Hebrew: ynet.co.il/yedioth/article/yokra14492636 Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Thursday, Ark Media Contributor Nadav Eyal published an op-ed on Ynet titled “An Existential Crossroads: between exile and state,” in which he argued that both Diaspora Jews and Jews in Israel are at a crossroads.  On today’s episode, we discuss Nadav’s provocative piece with Nadav himself and Ark Media’s other contributor, Amit Segal, who, as usual, comes at the issues from a different perspective.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Friday, August 22, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) – a global hunger monitor backed by the U.N. – declared for the first time that famine had struck North Gaza. Israel quickly denied the charge, accusing the IPC of “biased and self-interested sources originating from Hamas.” It’s hard to identify the truth about the humanitarian situation in Gaza, but one thing is clear: the U.N. has worked to weaponize the famine narrative as part of its campaign against Israel and against the Israel/US-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which supplanted much of the U.N.’s role in Gaza. To discuss this disturbing part of the equation, we are joined by Rich Goldberg. Rich is a senior advisor at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He served in both Trump administrations, including on the White House National Security Council staff. He also spent a decade on Capitol Hill, as an aide to a U.S. House Member and U.S. Senator, where Rich worked on congressional oversight of U.N. Programs in the Middle East.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Last week, on Inside Call me Back, Nadav and Dan had a conversation prompted by an especially insightful listener question that wound up generating lots of feedback from the “insiders.” The topic was, what do Israelis and diaspora Jews misunderstand about one another? It was an example of the types of discussions we strive for at Inside Call me Back: unfiltered, challenging, and often unresolved while still illuminating.  On today’s bonus episode, we’re giving the general Call me Back audience a taste of what goes on at our members-only edition of the podcast. If you want more of this content, where we bring you into the kind of conversations we have when the cameras stop rolling, subscribe at inside.arkmedia.org.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Europe’s far-right rise: axios.com/2025/08/22/europe-far-right-afd-germany-france-uk Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Friday, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) — an internationally recognized set of standards established by a group of NGOs for determining food insecurity — was applied to Gaza to declare for the first time that famine has struck North Gaza. It was a charge Israel quickly denied. This comes after many countries – including Britain, France, Canada, and Australia – have announced plans to recognize a Palestinian state. On today’s episode, we ask how Israelis are reacting to the world’s ire. Do they recognize the severity of the situation, or are they insulated from global opinion? Is Israel’s plummeting global standing cause for serious concern? Ark Media contributor Amit Segal joined us to discuss. 00:00 Introduction 03:57 Israel’s plummeting global image 05:44 Israel’s lack of PR strategy 08:20 Why is anti-Israel sentiment worse now than ever? 11:20 How Israeli leaders make the problem worse 14:18 How influential is the far-right in Netanyahu’s coalition? 16:21 How Israel’s internal debate reaches an international audience 18:00 How Netanyahu approaches PR 23:00 Israel is the mistress of Europe 25:45 Europe’s funding of Israeli research 28:55 Why aren’t Israelis talking about their global image? 34:04 How do Israelis react to claims of famine in Gaza? 35:35 Israel does not invest enough in PR 37:50 The practical affects of Israel’s standing CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Check out ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvM Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Ark Media is looking to add a Production Manager to the team: https://tinyurl.com/ark-prod-mgr Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Last week, Michal Lev-Ram and Yonatan Adiri – co-hosts of Ark Media’s second original podcast, What’s Your Number? – conducted a fascinating interview with Josh Wolfe that I wanted to bring to your attention. They discussed the boom in defense tech and Israel’s outsized role in the sector. Josh Wolfe is the co-founder of Luxe Capital,  a venture firm with $5 billion under management focused on deep-tech and science-driven investments. Josh has also been particularly outspoken on issues related to Israel and antisemitism since October 7.  In this episode, Josh talks with Michal and Yonatan about how and why he was early to the defense tech sector, when and why he began investing in Israeli defense tech, the reactions he  got from his own investors, and what this sector means for Israel’s postwar geopolitical position.  If you enjoy this interview, you can follow What’s Your Number? on all podcast players, or subscribe on our website, Arkmedia.org.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Ark Media is looking to add a Production Manager to the team: https://tinyurl.com/ark-prod-mgr Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Sunday, Hamas announced that it agreed to a hostage-ceasefire proposal, which Israel officials are now reviewing. This comes after Sunday’s massive protests against the government’s plans to expand the war and conquer Gaza City. In preparation for the Gaza City operation, the IDF has called up another 60,000 reservists.  On Tuesday, the Hostage and Missing Families Forum announced they are postponing another big protest originally scheduled for next Sunday in order not to disrupt the ongoing negotiations.  On today's episode, we are joined by Miri Eisin to discuss Israel’s strategic position as it weighs whether to go for a deal or continue the war. Miri is a retired Col. in the IDF, who spent her career focused on military intelligence, and who served alongside current IDF Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir. She currently serves as a fellow at Reichmann University’s International Institute for Counter-terrorism and is the Chair of the Taub Center for Social Policy Studies in Israel.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Ark Media is looking to add a Production Manager to the team: https://tinyurl.com/ark-prod-mgr Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Sunday, hundreds of thousands of Israelis joined in mass protests and strikes to pressure the Netanyahu government to end the Gaza war. Meanwhile, the IDF is preparing to execute the government’s plan to conquer Gaza City, which would entail the evacuation of the roughly one million Palestinians residing there. This offensive is in the works while there is renewed interest by Hamas in some kind of negotiation (which is likely a result of IDF plans for a new offensive).  On today’s episode, Dan is joined by Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal to discuss (and debate) the cost and benefits of continuing the war in Gaza. 00:00 Introduction 02:48 Commemorating Hersch Goldberg-Polin 04:54 Hostage protests in Israel 05:48 China’s plan to rebuilt Iran’s missile capabilities 10:54 Iranian emissary humiliated in Lebanon 12:38 Putin’s position on Iranian uranium enrichment 13:25 IDF plans to conquer Gaza City 21:35 Trump’s position on the Gaza City plan 23:30 What will happen to the hostages? 24:35 The toll on IDF reservists 26:15 International criticism 28:58 Was there starvation in Gaza? 32:15 Israel’s decision to stop aid in March 35:32 International coverage of the humanitarian situation 42:05 Military pressure on Hamas 43:43 Public opinion on ending the war 51:31 The problem with ending the war 57:19 Netanyahu’s position on a hostage-ceasefire deal CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Ark Media is looking to add a Production Manager to the team: https://tinyurl.com/ark-prod-mgr Subscribe to Amit Segal's newsletter 'It’s Noon in Israel': arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Friday, August 15th, Israel marks the 20th anniversary of its 2005 disengagement from Gaza, a watershed moment in Israeli history. It’s the date when, 20 years ago, the IDF began executing the Knesset’s decision to unilaterally withdraw from all Jewish settlements in the Gaza strip, uprooting the 8,000 Israelis living there. The plan was spearheaded by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who was head of the right-wing Likud party and had been a lifelong supporter of expanding settlements. Sharon ultimately got his government, including the future Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to support the withdrawal. On today’s episode, we are joined by Ark Media contributor Amit Segal and Asi Shariv, who served as senior advisor to Prime Minister Sharon during those dramatic days. With the benefit of hindsight, we discuss the long term impact of the Gaza withdrawal and whether or not it was a mistake. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Ark Media is looking to add a Production Manager to the team: https://tinyurl.com/ark-prod-mgr Subscribe to Amit Segal's newsletter 'It’s Noon in Israel': arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Friday, August 15th, Israel marks the 20th anniversary of its 2005 disengagement from Gaza, a watershed moment in Israeli history. It’s the date when, 20 years ago, the IDF began executing the Knesset’s decision to unilaterally withdraw from all Jewish settlements in the Gaza strip, uprooting the 8,000 Israelis living there. The plan was spearheaded by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who was head of the right-wing Likud party and had been a lifelong supporter of expanding settlements. Sharon ultimately got his government, including the future Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to support the withdrawal. On today’s episode, we discuss the Gaza withdrawal and its implications with Ark Media contributor Amit Segal and Asi Shariv, who served as senior advisor to Prime Minister Sharon during those dramatic days.  00:00 Introduction 04:12 How Asi Shariv became an advisor to Ariel Sharon 07:41 The political landscape during Sharon’s premiership  11:59 What Israelis wanted after the Second Intifada 14:09 The relationship between Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu 17:51 Sharon’s political strategy 19:00 Netanyahu’s position on withdrawal at the time 22:45 The Likud referendum on withdrawal 24:48 The Knesset vote on withdrawal CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Ark Media is looking to add a Production Manager to the team: https://tinyurl.com/ark-prod-mgr Subscribe to INSIDE Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Gift a subscription of INSIDE Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Late last week, the Israeli security cabinet approved a proposal by Prime Minister Netanyahu to conquer Gaza City, where roughly half the Gazan population resides, and which has been largely untouched by the IDF thus far. This decision has prompted widespread international backlash, which was already mounting from concerns over a possible food crisis in Gaza. It also comes as more countries move to recognize a Palestinian state, forcing us to grapple with the high price Israel is paying on the global stage for the ongoing Gaza war.  With this in mind, on today’s episode, Dan speaks with Dr. Micah Goodman about whether there’s a difference between winning the war in Gaza and winning the wider, regional war. Is it possible that Israel will need to modify its definition of victory in Gaza in order to emerge victorious in the larger re-shaping of the geopolitics of the Middle East? Micah Goodman co-hosts, along with Efrat Shapira Rosenberg, the popular Israeli podcast Mifleget Hamachshavot produced by Beit Avi Chai. 00:00 Introduction 05:17 The outcome of war with Iran 08:46 Public opinion on Iran war 13:22 Saudi normalization will split the Israeli right 18:02 The price of normalization 23:10 Who can lead normalization? 24:50 The next Israeli elections 26:53 How does Israel end the war in Gaza? 30:20 Losing the battle to win the war 31:34 Returning the hostages 32:25 Victory in the future versus victory now 34:52 Hamas anticipating Israel’s strategy CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

If you’re already subscribed to INSIDE Call me Back, listen to the extended version of this episode – on the INSIDE Call me Back feed. To subscribe to Inside Call me Back please go to: inside.arkmedia.org Sign up to Amit Segal's newsletter: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/ Gift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Prime Minister Netanyahu is expected to present the cabinet with a plan for the full military occupation of Gaza today. According to reports, the plan’s first phase entails the evacuation of Gaza City and an expansion of humanitarian aid, in coordination with the United States. The second phase would see an IDF takeover of Gaza City with an even bigger expansion of aid, backed by $1 billion from the U.S. and other countries.  This comes despite pushback from IDF Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir and other security officials, who — according to reports — have serious concerns about the risks of this military expansion.  To discuss this breaking news, Dan is joined by Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal. You can hear more of Dan’s thoughts on the subject at the beginning of today’s INSIDE Call me Back episode.  00:00 Introduction 03:20 The plan to occupy Gaza 05:15 The significance of Gaza City 06:57 Concerns about the plan 12:02 Where does Hamas lie? 17:47 Israeli public opinion on the plan CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

You can subscribe to Inside Call me Back at inside.arkmedia.org   If you have a friend or family member who you think would enjoy being a subscriber, we have gifting options available here: inside.arkmedia.org/gifts  Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Voice Memo on Instagram: instagram.com/reel/DM_NEZOJbne/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==  Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  There’s been some developing news out of Israel – namely, the possibility of a full-scale Israeli occupation of the Gaza strip – and we didn’t want to do a full episode on it quite yet. Instead, we’re trying out a new format here, by sending Call me Back contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal a voice memo, asking for their thoughts on the news.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to our new members only feed Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn To find out more about IsraAID, visit: https://www.israaid.org/ Today’s Episode:  For over a week, global attention has been focused on a food crisis in Gaza. Though there have been endless false reports of mass starvation since the beginning of the war, this time, many Israelis have accepted concerns about hunger among Gazans are legitimate.  This raises questions about how humanitarian aid has been distributed over the past few months. To discuss this – as well as how humanitarian aid distribution should be executed – we are joined by Yotam Polizer.  Yotam is the global CEO of ISRAAID, the largest humanitarian aid organization in Israel, which has operated in 12 different countries. Since October 7th, 2023, ISRAAID has also worked inside Israel to rehabilitate Israeli victims of the October 7 Hamas attack, and helped facilitate the transfer of humanitarian aid and medical support to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. (00:00) Special announcement (06:01) Intro (08:21) Yotam Polizer and ISRAAID (15:20) What ISRAAID did after October 7  (16:50) ISRAAID in Gaza (22:21) Most recent hostage-ceasefire deal (23:30) Stopping aid after the deal (25:10) Looting in Gaza (28:40) The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (31:51) How was the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation different from other groups? (34:50) What should be done now?   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Wednesday, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney announced that the Canadian government will recognize a Palestinian State at the United Nations meeting set for September. On Tuesday, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer declared that the UK will do the same – that is, unless Israel (and only Israel) meets a set of conditions. Canada and France followed the lead of French President Emanuel Macron, who announced a few days ago that France will recognize a Palestinian State at the September UN meeting.  These developments come as Israel’s global image plummets, according to a recent Gallup survey.  To discuss how we got to this point – where Israel’s response to Hamas’ October 7th attack is prompting European countries to recognize a Palestinian State – we are joined by Ari Shavit, former correspondent at Haaretz and author of the award winning book My Promised Land. Before the interview, we take a moment to remember Wesley LePatner.  Item discussed in this episode: “In Memory of Wesley LePatner, a cherished friend.” By Caroline Tell. Please click here to read.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Thursday, French President Emanuel Macron announced that France will recognize a Palestinian state at the UN meeting set to take place in September. France will become the first major Western country to recognize a Palestinian state, prompting many to wonder if this will set off a chain reaction. Is it possible that Hamas’ savage attack could set off a chain of events that results in the establishment of a Palestinian state? Meanwhile, there has been a lot of press in recent days about starvation among Gazans. Research by Yannay Spitzer of Hebrew University on the price of flour in the Gaza Strip has convinced many reluctant Israelis that this time, unlike before, the reports of starvation are real. In response, Israel announced that it will halt military operations for 10 hours a day in parts of the strip, as Jordan and the UAE resumed airdrops of humanitarian aid.  To discuss the food crisis and the significance of President Macron’s declaration, we were joined by Call me Back contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal.  (00:00) Introduction (04:44) Vote for a Palestinian state (08:04) Hunger crisis in Gaza? (28:05) Hostage and ceasefire negotiations (30:55) Could 10/7 go down as Independence Day for the Palestinians? (39:21) Retrospective on Israel’s strategy (46:59) What happens to the hostages? (51:40) Outro CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  Last week, we witnessed the eruption of violent aggression on behalf of the Syrian government and local Bedouin tribes against Syria’s southern Druze community, leaving more than 1,400 people dead. The Druze are a community that also has deep roots in Israel, and over 1,000 Israeli Druze citizens crossed the Israel-Syria border to support their brothers and sisters being attacked. In response, Israel launched a series of strikes against military facilities in Damascus, prompting widespread global criticism. As of Saturday, all sides have agreed to a ceasefire. However, we are still seeing reports and videos on social media of Druze being attacked in Southern Syria. Many are asking what to make of Syria’s new leader, Ahmed al-Sharaa, a former Al Qaeda affiliate who claims to have moderated. People are also wondering to what extent Turkey – a supporter of the new Syrian regime – played a role in what’s unfolded in Syria.   Joining us to discuss – and at points, debate – these complex questions are Charles Lister, senior fellow and director of the Syria Initiative at the Middle East Institute, and Hay Eitan Cohen Yanarocak, researcher of modern-day Turkey at the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies at Tel Aviv University. (00:00) Introduction (05:05) What happened in Syria? (11:16) The involvement of Turkey (15:06) The U.S. response to Israel’s intervention in Syria  (31:20) Turkey’s ambition (37:51) Did Israel make a mistake? (43:45) Outro CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Monday, the three Haredi parties in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition were presented with a draft of a new Haredi conscription bill, which they say did not satisfy their demands for military exemption for Haredi youth. This led two of the parties, Degel HaTorah and Agudat Yisrael, to leave Netanyahu’s government on Monday, bringing the coalition down from 68 to 61 seats, which is the smallest possible majority in the 120 seat Knesset. On Wednesday, Shas, another Haredi party, announced its resignation from the government, but not from the coalition, leaving the coalition’s majority at an extremely thin margin.  In other news, over the past couple days, the new Syrian government led by Ahmed el-Sharaa, has been working alongside local Bedouin tribes to violently target Syria’s southern Druze community. This has prompted around 1,000 Israeli Druze to breach the Israel-Syria border in an effort to join their brothers and sisters’ struggle. In response to the Syrian government’s actions, Israel launched a series of airstrikes targeting military infrastructure in Damascus.   To unpack the developments taking place in Netanyahu’s government, as well as the chaos unfolding in Syria, we were joined by Call me Back contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal. (00:00) Introduction (03:51) Israel’s system and current composition (09:24) What are the parties negotiating? (16:45) Haredi conscription in the IDF  (22:37) Why did the ultra-Orthodox parties resign? (28:29) What are Netanyahu’s options? (36:31) What does this mean for a hostage deal? (39:09) Crisis in Syria  (48:33) Outro CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode: Part 2 of our conversation with Minister of Strategic Affairs, Ron Dermer. A few days ago, Prime Minister Netanyahu and his Israeli delegation, which included Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer, concluded their trip to Washington D.C., where they met with President Donald Trump and other senior American officials.  The visit came just a few weeks after the historic military success on behalf of Israel and the U.S. against the Iranian regime. Following these stunning achievements, there has been talk of future normalization with certain Arab states and the potential for a hostage-ceasefire deal in the near future.  Minister Dermer has been at the forefront of all these issues. In a conversation divided into two episodes, he and Dan discuss Israel’s standing globally and in the Middle East after the war with Iran, the future of Gaza, the hostages, and where the country is heading internally.     CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

This is the first of a two part interview. The second part will be published tomorrow, Tuesday, July 15. Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  A few days ago, Prime Minister Netanyahu and his Israeli delegation, which included Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer, concluded their trip to Washington D.C., where they met with President Donald Trump and other senior American officials.  The visit came just a few weeks after the historic military success on behalf of Israel and the U.S. against the Iranian regime. Following these stunning achievements, there has been talk of future normalization with certain Arab states and the potential for a hostage-ceasefire deal in the near future.  Minister Dermer has been at the forefront of all these issues. In a conversation divided into two episodes, he and Dan discuss Israel’s standing globally and in the Middle East after the war with Iran, the future of Gaza, the hostages, and where the country is heading internally.     CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Monday, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu conducted their highly-anticipated meeting at the White House, where they engaged in a press conference from the White House State Dining room.  Prime Minister Netanyahu told the press that Israel and the U.S. were communicating with several countries willing to take in Palestinians who want to leave the Gaza strip, suggesting that Gazans would not be forcibly removed from the strip, but rather given the option to relocate if they so choose. President Trump disclosed that the U.S. was engaging in direct talks with Iran, with US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff saying a meeting with the Iranians would take place within a week.  Notably, there was no big announcement on the hostage-ceasefire front, which many people were anxiously awaiting after more than a week of Trump expressing optimism regarding a deal. To unpack what we learned from Monday’s White House meeting – what might develop over the days and weeks ahead – are Call me Back regulars, Senior Analyst at Yedioth Achronot Nadav Eyal and Chief Analyst at Channel 12 Amit Segal.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode:  On Monday, July 7, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is set to meet with President Donald Trump at the White House, where we assume they will discuss an end to the Gaza war and the new Middle Eastern geopolitical landscape after the recent war with Iran. Because this meeting is likely to bring big Israel-related news, we decided to hold off on recording a full Call me Back episode until tomorrow. Instead, we recorded a brief news round-up to help keep you up-to-date on recent developments, and to prime you for Monday’s meetings in Washington DC. Among other things, we’re keeping our eyes on a potential hostage-ceasefire deal in Gaza and the possibility of normalization between Israel and certain Arab States, including Syria.  Stay tuned for more Call me Back analysis on developments out of Israel and DC.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode: Over the past few days, we’ve observed strong signs that Israeli leaders are moving to bring the Gaza war to a close, though it remains unclear how exactly this would take shape. On Tuesday, Israel’s Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermermet with senior Trump administration officials in Washington, DC. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is set to visit the White House on Monday, July 7.  This comes just over a week after Israel’s 12-day war against the Iranian regime. The war also included, of course, a round of American strikes on Iran’s three key nuclear facilities.  Prime Minister Netanyahu spent his entire political career warning of the existential threat posed by Iran’s nuclear program, and he is now largely being credited — even by domestic critics — with its destruction. As the post-Iran War geopolitical map is being drawn, we wonder, what could be Netanyahu’s next moves in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria. Saudi Arabia, and domestically, in Israel? To discuss this we are joined by Israeli author and journalist Ari Shavit. Ari is the author of the award-winning book My Promised Land and was a senior correspondent at Haaretz for many years. To order Ari’s book, My Promised Land: https://tinyurl.com/45jbnhbz CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us and sign up for updates visit: www.arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode: Now that the “12 Day War” between Israel and Iran has ended (for now), we are turning our attention back toward the war in Gaza, where 50 Israeli hostages remain. President Donald Trump has been advocating for an end to the war, saying that he believes a hostage-ceasefire deal might come within a week.  This comes amid increasing doubts about IDF achievements in Gaza going forward, especially with IDF casualties on a near daily basis. This past Wednesday, seven Israeli soldiers were tragically killed when an IED hit the armored vehicle they were in.  Joining us to discuss the ongoing IDF campaign in Gaza and the possibility for a new ceasefire deal —  and the events taking place in the West Bank — is Call me Back regular and political analyst at Yedioth Achronot, Nadav Eyal. – CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode (Part II): In the first part of our conversation, we talked about how Iran built its nuclear program and gave a history and scientific tutorial on how it was / could be done.  In the second part, we talk about what is believed to be remaining after the Israeli and U.S. attacks.  We welcome back to the show, Lahav Harkov who has been covering this topic in detail for Jewish Insider. David Albright, a physicist and world renowned expert and author on nuclear weapons, and the President and Founder of the Institute for Science and International Security, also joins us.  Check out David’s work here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001HPEB5C/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=1b1c48b5-d51b-4ce5-b43e-dc94a51aadec Check out Lahav’s work at Jewish Insider here: https://jewishinsider.com/authors/lahav-harkov/ – CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us and sign up for updates visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode (Part I) On Saturday June 21st, the U.S. dropped 14, 30,000 pound bunker-buster bombs on Iran’s three key nuclear sites: Natanz, Esfahan and the infamous Fordo, where 12 of the 14 bombs were dropped. Since the bombing of these three nuclear sites, which President Donald Trump said were “completely and totally obliterated,” there has been some speculation in the press  as to how much damage was actually done. While the world scrambles to figure out what was destroyed, what was damaged, and what was left intact, we are asking what was Iran’s actual nuclear program and how was it built? To help answer those questions, we asked physicist and weapons expert David Albright, who is the President and Founder of the Institute for Science and International Security. David has written numerous books and assessments on nuclear weapons programs and has testified on multiple occasions on nuclear issues before the U.S. Congress.  Check out David’s work here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001HPEB5C/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=1b1c48b5-d51b-4ce5-b43e-dc94a51aadec – CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor To order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdn Today’s Episode: It feels like a month’s worth of news has erupted out of the Middle East since Saturday night, when the U.S. bombed Iran’s three key nuclear facilities. On Monday, the IRGC responded by firing missiles at the American El Udeid Air base in Qatar – an attack it warned Qatar (and the U.S.) about beforehand. Throughout that day, the Israeli Air Force struck critical IRGC targets, including multiple hubs of internal operations, military headquarters, missile production sites, radar systems, and missile storage infrastructure. In a highly symbolic move, the IAF struck Evin Prison – known for holding Iranian dissidents – as well as Iran’s so-called “Israel doomsday clock,” located in Tehran’s “Palestine square.” And then, at 6:02pm EST, President Trump announced a “complete and total ceasefire” via Truth Social. Shortly before the ceasefire began, Iran launched six successive missile barrages toward targets throughout Israel. At around 5:40am Israel time, one of these missiles impacted a residential building in Beersheba, tragically killing four people and injuring 22.  At 10:30am Israel time, about three-and-a-half hours after the ceasefire was meant to take effect, Iran fired two missiles at Israel’s North. Israeli officials vowed to respond forcefully to this breach in the ceasefire, but settled for a “symbolic” target – an Iranian radar north of Tehran – after pressure from President Trump not to escalate. To unpack the history that’s taken place over the past few days; the details of the ceasefire and how it will be enforced; and how a possible end to this Iran War (or this phase of the Iran War) could impact the Gaza War and the hostages, we are joined once again by senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot and Call me Back regular Nadav Eyal and chief political analyst at Channel 12 and another Call me Back regular Amit Segal. – CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s Episode: Around 8pm ET on Saturday June 21st, President Trump announced that the U.S. launched an attack on three Iranian nuclear sites: Natanz, Esfahan, and Fordow.  At 10pm ET, in a live address from the White House, the President called the attacks on Iran a “spectacular military success” and said Iran’s three targeted nuclear facilities had been “completely and totally obliterated.” Joining us to unpack what we know about the attack and what Iran might do next and what happens next for the U.S. and Israel are Call me Back regulars Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal.  We will be following these historic developments closely here at Call me Back. Stay tuned for more news updates and episodes this week.  – CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s Episode: If President Trump decides against the U.S. joining the war, what can the IDF achieve on its own? In today’s episode, senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot and Call me Back regular Nadav Eyal discusses this very question as well as the damage caused by Iran’s most recent missile barrages and how Israeli air defenses are working to confront the threat. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s Episode: For New York City Jews, there are two major news stories that are front of mind. There is, of course, Israel’s war with Iran. And then there is the New York City Democratic mayoral primary, which will take place this Tuesday, June 24th.  This year’s NYC mayoral election is of particular consequence because of 33-year-old self-proclaimed socialist Zohran Mamdani, to many Jewish New Yorkers because of his positions on antisemitism and Israel. In college, Mamdani co-founded “Students for Justice in Palestine.” Now, while he claims to be concerned about raising antisemitism, he defends the phrase “globalize the intifada.” When asked about his position on Israel two weeks ago, Mamdani said that as mayor, he would bring NYC back into compliance with international law, suggesting that the city administration’s support for Israel is illegal. To unpack this significant election cycle, we are joined by Howard Wolfson, who leads the Education Program of Bloomberg Philanthropies. From 2010 to 2013, Howard served as the NYC Deputy Mayor for Government Affairs and Communications – where he oversaw local, state, and federal government relations, with particular involvement in the education, transportation, and technology sectors. Howard currently runs Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg's SuperPAC and continues to advise Bloomberg on matters of politics and communications. – CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To inquire about working at a Jewish summer camp this summer: http://jewishcamp.org/work CLICK HERE to listen to our earlier episode today with Nadav Eyal & Karim Sadjapour CLICK HERE to listen to What's Your Number? CLICK HERE to listen to For Heaven’s Sake  Watch and subscribe to Call Me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://instagram.com/dansenor Timestamp: 10:30PM on Wednesday, June 18th (EST), 5:30AM on Thursday, June 19th (Israel time). News continues to develop rapidly. To help our listeners separate signal from noise, we are going to be providing quick news updates in addition to our regular programming.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s Episode: Will the U.S. play a direct military role in the destruction of Iran’s nuclear program? Over the past few days, President Trump has been reinforcing his support for the Israeli offensive and his position that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Most assessments suggest that the IAF does not have the capability to completely destroy Iran’s nuclear program. If that’s the case, what’s the end-game? Should Iran’s nuclear program be destroyed by the US, delayed by Israel, or disassembled by Iran through a deal? On today’s episode, we dive into these critical questions with senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot and Call me Back regular, Nadav Eyal, and Iran foreign policy expert and senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Karim Sadjapour. Karim is a first-time guest. In addition to working at Carnegie, he is a contributing writer to the Atlantic. He was previously an analyst with the International Crisis Group, based in Tehran and Washington. He has lived in Latin America, Europe, and the Middle East (including both Iran and the Arab world) and speaks Persian. Karim is an adjunct professor at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, teaching a class on U.S. foreign policy and the Middle East. Nadav and Karim discuss what the mood is inside Iran, what military options are on the table, and possible outcomes of the war. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

CLICK HERE to listen to today’s episode of For Heaven’s Sake  CLICK HERE to listen to our earlier episode today with Amit Segal on the war with Iran Watch and subscribe to Call Me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://instagram.com/dansenor Timestamp: 10PM on Monday, June 16th (EST), 5AM on Tuesday, June 17th (Israel time). News has been rushing in at breakneck speed over the past few days, and one of our regular listeners, Idan Cohen, suggested that we help our listeners separate signal from noise by providing quick news updates. So, we’re going to try to add these quick news breaks in addition to our regular programming.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:  For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAWhat’s Your Number?: https://lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us and sign up for updates visit: arkmedia.org Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s Episode: In the early hours of Friday, June 13th, the Israeli Air Force began major attacks on Iranian nuclear and military facilities, as well as IRGC leaders and nuclear scientists. The attack prompted an Iranian retaliation which began later that night.  Saturday, the second day of war with Iran, became the deadliest night for Israeli civilians since October 7th, after two massive barrages of Iranian rockets killed eleven Israelis and wounded over 200. Seven people were killed in Bat Yam, where a missile struck a residential building, and four were killed in the Arab city of Tamra, east of Haifa.  As the Israeli offensive on Iran proceeds, the big question is; will the United States join Israel’s offensive to destroy Iran’s nuclear program? In this episode, Amit Segal, Call me Back Regular and senior political analyst for Channel 12, joins us to discuss Saturday night’s attack on Israel, and the possibility of U.S. military action against Iran. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/DZulpY For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Earlier today, Iran launched approximately 100 ballistic missiles at Israel, prompting multiple rounds of nationwide sirens. Some missiles landed in Tel Aviv and other areas in Central Israel, damaging buildings and wounding dozens of Israelis, with at least one reported fatality.  This followed Friday’s extensive Israeli Air Force attack on Iranian nuclear, military, and leadership targets. The attacks damaged nuclear enrichment sites and killed Hussein Salammi, the head of the IRGC, the Army Chief of Staff, other members of the Iranian military leadership, as well as leading nuclear scientists. Just minutes before the evening’s sirens began, we wrapped up a conversation with Nadav Eyal, senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot and Call me Back regular, where he explained how the Israeli attack on Iran unfolded and what it took for the IDF to prepare.  These historic developments are certain to evolve over the next few days. We’ll be monitoring the situation closely, so stay tuned for more analysis.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

The Ark is Expanding At around 8 PM New York time, the Israeli Air Force launched a historic preemptive strike on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, military assets and military leadership. The Israel-Iran War has begun, or at least entered a new stage. In response, the IDF Home Front Command swiftly updated its guidelines, banning all educational, social, and workplace gatherings. Israelis have been instructed to stay near bomb shelters as the nation braces for Iran’s counterstrike. As you try to process all the fast-moving, history-making developments, we want to offer an expanded suite of voices and content from Israel. You might have noticed that over the past few months, I’ve referred to Call me Back as an “Ark Media” podcast. After four-and-a-half years of Call me Back standing on its own, we are now building a podcast network. Ark Media is home to the topics bringing us together — Jewish life, Israel’s future, and our rapidly changing geopolitics — even when many of our guests have spirited and good faith disagreements about these issues. About a month ago, Ark Media launched its second podcast, What’s Your Number, and today we are excited to announce that Ark Media will be joined by a third podcast - For Heaven’s Sake, co-hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi, of the Shalom Hartman Institute. Donniel is the Hartman Institute’s president, and Yossi, who has been a recurring guest on Call me Back, is a Senior Fellow. I don’t always agree with Donniel’s or Yossi’s views on contentious political topics - but that's precisely the point. At Ark Media, we believe that engaging with diverse Jewish perspectives, grounded in shared values, is central to presenting the dilemmas that Israel is facing as it strives to survive and thrive in a world turned upside down. Whatever your politics, Donniel and Yossi are essential voices to consider, as we navigate the challenges facing Israel and Jews worldwide. Starting this week, Ark Media will publish For Heaven’s Sake episodes on a weekly basis. You can find them wherever you listen to your podcasts - just don’t forget to subscribe!

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/DZulpY For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Around 3AM in Israel, a nation-wide siren awoke Israelis to the news that the Israeli Air Force was conducting extensive strikes on the Islamic Republic of Iran. As far as we know so far, the strikes have targeted nuclear enrichment sites, military sites, the IRGC leadership, including Hussein Salammi, the head of the IRGC, the Army Chief of Staff, and leading nuclear scientists.  Shortly after the blitz began, the IDF Home Front Command announced immediate changes to its guidelines, prohibiting all gatherings for educational, social, and workplace purposes. Israelis have been instructed to remain near bomb shelters as they await the Iranian response.  It is an extremely tense moment for Israelis and Jews around the world. For years we’ve discussed the danger of Iran inching closer and closer to a nuclear weapon. The IDF said in a statement that in recent months it had accumulated evidence that Iran’s nuclear program was “approaching the point of no return.”  Joining us to unpack the ongoing events that are reshaping the Middle East in real time is Ronen Bergman. Ronen is a staff writer for The New York Times and Senior Correspondent for Military and Intelligence Affairs at Yedhiot Ahronot. Ronen is the recipient of a Pulitzer price for his reporting on the Israel-Hamas war.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/DZulpY For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Since the beginning of the war, 20 months ago, politicians and public figures have referred to ‘total victory’ and a complete defeat of Hamas to define the war’s objectives. But what exactly does that mean? And at what cost to Israeli society? Today’s guest, Dr. Tal Becker, has been exploring what it means to actually “win” the war. What does it look like? How to measure it?  Tal recently served as the Legal Advisor of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs and currently serves as Vice President of the Shalom Hartman Institute. He is a veteran member of successive Israeli peace negotiation teams and played an instrumental role in negotiating and drafting the historic Abraham Accords. Tal earned his doctorate from Columbia University in New York, and is the recipient of numerous scholarly awards, including the Guggenheim Prize for best international law book for his book "Terrorism and the State". CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/DZulpY For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Following the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel, Brett McGurk was a lead negotiator for the U.S. Government in every round of hostage/ceasefire negotiations in 2023, 2024, and January 2025.  In today’s episode, which we recorded before a live audience at the Manhattan JCC last week, Brett sat down for his first long-form/on-the-record conversation on his lessons learned, including how these lessons inform the current (on-again/off-gain) negotiations over the Witkoff Plan.  Brett McGurk has held senior national security posts across the Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations.   Most recently, he served as President Biden’s White House Coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa. In this role, he spearheaded U.S. Government efforts across the region to secure the release of Israeli hostages and a ceasefire in Gaza and he coordinated international support for Israel’s defense against Iranian ballistic missile attacks. As Special Presidential Envoy for both President Obama and President Trump, McGurk was an architect of the global coalition of more than 80 countries together with local forces on the ground to defeat ISIS. He also led secret negotiations with Iran to secure the release of American hostages, including Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaein.  As a senior White House official under George W. Bush, Brett was an early advocate for a change in Iraq war policy and helped develop “the surge” strategy. He also negotiated the Strategic Framework Agreement with Iraq, which continues to guide U.S. relations between the two countries.   He is now a Venture Partner at Lux Capital, a venture capital firm based in New York City and Silicon Valley, as well as a Special Advisor for international affairs at Cisco, and holds fellowships at both the Harvard’s Belfer Center and the Atlantic Council. He’s also a CNN Global Affairs Analyst.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

(00:00) Introduction  (05:18) Israel’s new aid program and its threat to Hamas (18:11) Anti-Hamas protest movement (24:22) Trump’s Gaza migration plan (28:07) Who is Abu-Shabab? (31:39) Enclave program in Gaza (40:04) The day after and deradicalization in Gaza (47:32) Closing Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/DZulpY For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: http://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Political news has been erupting out of Israel over the past two days, as tensions simmer within Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government. The coalition’s ultra-Orthodox parties, United Torah Judaism and Shas, announced they will join the opposition to vote in favor of dissolving the Knesset due to its failure to pass a law exempting the ultra-orthodox from serving in the IDF. If a simple majority votes in favor of dissolving the Knesset, it would force parliamentary elections. As if the news pouring out of Israel wasn’t enough, major developments are also taking place in Gaza. The food-aid program, run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, is showing signs of success in circumventing Hamas, weakening its political power of Gaza’s population. This food aid program is not just a humanitarian endeavor; it is part of a larger strategy that was developed over the past year, referred to as humanitarian bubbles, in which Hamas-free zones are intended to be administered by vetted local Palestinians unaffiliated with Hamas.  Prime Minister Netanyahu confirmed today that Israel is providing weapons to an anti-Hamas militia, led by Yasser Abu-Shabab. The rise of Israel-backed Abu-Shabab, along with the weakening of Hamas’ political and military power, has prompted a conversation about whether we are witnessing the early stages of the day after Hamas in Gaza. Our guest today is Joseph Braude. He leads the Center for Peace Communications (CPC), a nonprofit that amplifies Gazans who oppose Hamas, and has been active inside the Gaza Strip throughout the war. If you’ve seen a video of Gazans speaking out against Hamas, chances are they came to you through the CPC. It is the first time we will be speaking with someone who has been in close contact with direct sources inside Gaza’s population. In fact, Joseph has helped us receive audio to questions that the Call me Back podcast sent directly to Gazan civilians.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to our YouTube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast?sub_confirmation=1   Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’:  https://www.youtube.com/@wyn.podcast?sub_confirmation=1    For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: On Sunday, a peaceful demonstration in Boulder, Colorado, advocating the release of the 58 remaining Israeli hostages held by Hamas, was violently disrupted when 45-year-old Mohamed Sabry Soliman, disguising himself as a gardener, attacked participants with Molotov cocktails and a makeshift flamethrower. The assault injured six elderly individuals, aged between 67 and 88 — including a survivor of the Holocaust — with at least one victim in critical condition. In Paris, vandals defaced the Holocaust Memorial, two synagogues, and a Jewish restaurant in a coordinated act of antisemitic violence. These horrific events come just over one week after Elias Rodriguez, a radical, leftist activist, murdered two Israeli embassy staffers outside the Jewish museum in Washington DC.  We have been hearing from Israelis who lived through the Intifada in Israel, as they reflect on what “Globalize the Intifada” means when it reaches our country; we hear one Israeli’s perspective in today’s episode.  Meanwhile, just as it appeared that Israel was facing increasing international pressure, it is Hamas’s position in the hostage negotiations that is weakening with time, according to U.S. officials.  Late on Wednesday, the United States vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution calling for an  “immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire” between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, the release of all the hostages and unhindered aid access across the enclave. Dorothy Shea, Acting US Ambassador to the UN cited the failure to condemn Hamas and calling for its disarmament as the reason for the veto.  Nadav Eyal, senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot, joins us to discuss the implications of the antisemitic terror attack in Boulder as well as the turmoil in Gaza.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Upcoming Live Event: Call Me Back – Live Podcast recording with Special Guest Brett McGurk — June 4, 7:30 PM at the Manhattan JCC. REGISTER HERE: https://www.mmjccm.org/event/call-me-back-dan-senor-podcast Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: http://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Terms for a new intermediary hostage-ceasefire deal appear to have been reached through direct negotiations between the US and Hamas, against the backdrop of  reports that President Donald Trump told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu it would be ‘very inappropriate’ for Israel to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities militarily.  To better understand this rapidly evolving, increasingly complex story, we are joined by Nadav Eyal, senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot and Amit Segal, senior political analyst at Channel 12. Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter here: https://www.amitsegal.net/newsletter/ CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Upcoming Live Event: Call Me Back – Live Podcast recording with Special Guest Brett McGurk — June 4, 7:30 PM at the Manhattan JCC. REGISTER HERE: https://www.mmjccm.org/event/call-me-back-dan-senor-podcast Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: http://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: We’ve spent a lot of time on this podcast lamenting what has gone wrong on U.S. college campuses and within higher education overall. But, there are initiatives being launched and new schools and departments being founded that should give students and aspiring students (and their families) a lot of hope. Joining us today to discuss: Will Inboden, professor and director of the Alexander Hamilton School for Classical and Civic Education at the University of Florida. He is the author of a terrific book called: “The Peacemaker: Ronald Reagan, the Cold War, and the World on the Brink.” And, announced today, Will Inboden is the finalist to be the next Provost of University of Texas at Austin.  Eric Cohen has been the CEO of Tikvah since 2007.  He started and serves as the publisher of Mosaic, and founded the journal called The New Atlantis. Tikvah has partnered with the Hamilton School at UF on a unique program that will be explored in this episode.   To learn more about the Rosenthal-Levy Scholars Program (4-year scholarship to the Hamilton School) at the University of Florida: https://rosenthallevyscholars.org/  The Peacemaker by Will Inboden: https://www.amazon.com/Peacemaker-Ronald-Reagan-World-Brink/dp/1524745898 The New Atlantis: https://www.thenewatlantis.com/ Mosaic Magazine: https://mosaicmagazine.com/ CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer  

Upcoming Live Event: Call Me Back – Live Podcast recording with Special Guest Brett McGurk — June 4, 7:30 PM at the Manhattan JCC. REGISTER HERE: https://www.mmjccm.org/event/call-me-back-dan-senor-podcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast?sub_confirmation=1   Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: https://www.youtube.com/@wyn.podcast?sub_confirmation=1    For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: In one week, Jews in Israel and around the world will be celebrating the holiday of Shavuot. But, for many Jews, it’s one of the least understood or familiar holidays, and yet it’s among the most important. So today we are providing a Shavuot crash course for the Call Me Back community as well as some inspiration. For all the obvious reasons, it feels like we need it. Rachel Goldberg-Polin returns to Call Me Back to help us prepare for Shavuot after she helped so many of us navigate our Passover Seders.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Upcoming Live Event: Call Me Back – Live Podcast recording with Special Guest Brett McGurk — June 4, 7:30 PM at the Manhattan JCC. REGISTER HERE: mmjccm.org/event/call-me-back-dan-senor-podcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel:  youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast?sub_confirmation=1   Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’:  youtube.com/@wyn.podcast?sub_confirmation=1    For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: On Wednesday night, two employees of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, Sarah Milgrim and Yaron Lischinsky, were shot dead by Elias Rodriguez, a radical left-wing activist. “I did it for Palestine, I did it for Gaza,” he said after being taken into custody and charged with first-degree murder. It’s been almost two years since the chant ‘globalize the Intifada’ has gone mainstream. Is what happened in DC a manifestation of that chant, or is this a lone-wolf incident? If we look around the globe - from Canada, to France, to Germany, Sweden, the UK and Australia - it looks like the US might be joining an already established club, albeit, a bit late.  How should the Jewish community in the US, and Jewish communities around the world prepare, if this is indeed a global intifada?  With us today to discuss all of this is Mitch Silber, who served as Director of Intelligence Analysis at the NYPD and is one of the foremost experts on counterterrorism and radicalization. Mitch currently leads the Community Security Initiative NY.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: A lot has unfolded in the span of just a few days: Iran’s Supreme Leader has publicly dismissed the potential for nuclear negotiations with the United States. This comes as U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff has doubled down on the zero enrichment condition for any Iran nuclear deal — while the Trump administration appears to be quietly pressuring Israel on the path forward on Gaza, while not demanding that Israel actually end the war. Meanwhile, international pressure continues to build.The UK announced plans to pause trade talks and countries within the European Union are discussing scrapping a cooperation deal with Israel. Finally, Pope Leo XIV appealed for more humanitarian aid to enter Gaza, calling the situation there “yet more worrying and saddening.” Where does Israel go from here? How are these dynamics impacting domestic Israeli politics and the options for Israeli decision-makers.  With us today to discuss all of this are Nadav Eyal, senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot, and Amit Segal, senior political analyst at Channel 12. Subscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter here: https://www.amitsegal.net/newsletter/ CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: http://instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor I have been moved by the reaction to my speech at the annual State of World Jewry Address in the last episode. In Part II of that evening at the 92nd Street Y, I sat down with Rabbi David Ingber, following my address, for a conversation. Rabbi Ingber picked up on some of the ideas in my talk…to probe some more…and push me on several of the issues I raised.  Rabbi Ingber is the Senior Director for Jewish Life and Senior Director of the Bronfman Center at 92NY. He also serves as the founding rabbi of Romemu. He serves on the faculty for the Wexner Heritage Program and the Shalom Hartman Institute of North America and Israel.  Rabbi Ingber is also the host of the “Detours & Destinations” podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/detours-destinations/id1809796304

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Dan Senor’s 2025 State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY). Dan’s address expanded upon many of the topics we often discuss on Call Me Back, but it primarily focused on the challenges ahead for Diaspora Jewish communities in a post-10/07 world. Dan also laid out a first draft of an action plan for Jewish Peoplehood that is no longer prominent and weak but one that is instead Jewish and strong.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: As we mentioned in our brief update this morning, there is a lot happening in Israel and it’s happening fast.  Hamas has released hostage Edan Alexander, a US-Israeli citizen, in what Hamas is calling a “gesture of good will” to US President Donald Trump. All of this while the IDF has been preparing a large-scale offensive in Gaza and as the Gulf Summit is about to start in Saudi Arabia where President Trump will be meeting with Arab leaders to discuss further US investment and the future of the Middle East.   To discuss all of this and what it means, we are joined by Call Me Back regulars Nadav Eyal, senior analyst at Yedioth Achronot, and Amit Segal, senior political analyst at Channel 12 Amit Segal’s newsletter: https://www.amitsegal.net/newsletter/ Amit Segal’s opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-blunders-put-israel-at-risk-a9c0af65 CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

It is 9PM on Sunday May 11th here in New York City. It is 4AM on Monday May 12th in Israel. A lot is happening, and it’s happening fast. So instead of taping today, Sunday, and releasing Monday morning as we usually do, we will be taping Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal on Monday morning and releasing the episode later in the day. In the meantime, in case you haven’t caught up yet, here’s a quick update on the events that took place this weekend. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor ============================================= It’s been a busy week with a lot of moving pieces - there are new war plans in Gaza, the US-Houthi agreement, and of course, the Gulf Summit and a potential new deal between the US and Saudi Arabia. Here’s what we do know: On Tuesday, during a press availability in the Oval Office of the White House, President Donald Trump told reporters that the total number of living hostages in Gaza dropped from 24 to 21. “As of today, it’s 21. Three have died.”, he said. Israel maintains that officially, the list of living hostages remains 24.  Trump also said that the US would stop bombing Yemen’s Houthis after the Iran-backed group had agreed to stop interrupting important shipping lanes in the Middle East. The announcement did not mention the Houthi attacks on Israel, including a missile that hit Ben Gurion international airport on Saturday, to which Israel responded with a crippling attack on Yemen's international airport in Sanaa. Following Trump’s announcement, a spokesman for the Houthis pledged that the strikes on Israel would continue.  On Thursday, sources told Reuters that the United States is no longer demanding Saudi Arabia normalize ties with Israel as a condition for developing its nuclear program - a major concession by Washington. Senator Lindsey Graham says he opposes any pact with the Saudis that excludes normalization with Jewish state.  Earlier in the week, on Monday, Israel’s security cabinet authorized plans for the widening of the Gaza invasion, which if taken to its logical conclusion, meaning Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages – could result in an Israeli reoccupation of Gaza and reestablishing some permanent presence there. It is unclear at this point if this military plan is going to be implemented, or if it is used as leverage on Hamas as a negotiating tactic. That said, Finance Minister Betzalel Smotrich said on Monday that “We are finally going to occupy the Gaza Strip. We will stop being afraid of the word’ occupation.”  To unpack what this all means, we are joined by Lahav Harkov, Senior Political Correspondent for Jewish Insider. Senior Fellow at the Misgav Institute for National Security. (00:00) Introduction (04:56) Potential US-Saudi deal (13:33) What do the Saudi's want? (15:37) IDF operations in Gaza (21:10) How would occupation work? (26:58) Strain on reservist soldiers (34:13) What are the options for Hamas? CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer  

Ark Media is looking for two college summer interns – one who can support operations and another who can support product design. To apply, please follow the links below: Product: https://app.testgorilla.com/s/b1e1of2hOperations: https://app.testgorilla.com/s/7hy7zlpuWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor   Today’s episode: Latest reporting from Times of Israel on wildfires: https://www.timesofisrael.com/fire-authority-needs-double-the-budget-to-cope-during-mega-fires-era-official/ Next week, President Trump is heading to Saudi Arabia to convene a summit with leaders from the Gulf Cooperation Council—Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Oman. The agenda? Arms deals, AI partnerships, and a substantial Saudi investment pledge. Israel isn't on his itinerary, although Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has just announced that he will be traveling to Israel in advance of President Trump’s Middle East trip, and that Secretary Hegseth will be meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu, Defense Minister Katz and Israel’s military leadership. He will then travel to Saudi Arabia to accompany President Trump on his travels.  The Middle East visit will also take place against the backdrop of an important personnel change on Trump’s national security team – namely, the national security advisor Mike Waltz stepping down and moving to the UN.  To unpack what's at stake for Israel and the US, we're joined by Mike Singh, former senior director for Middle East affairs at the National Security Council and now managing director at the Washington Institute, and Call me Back regular, Nadav Eyal, columnist for Yediot Ahronot. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: The Iran-backed Houthis fired a ballistic missile at Ben Gurion Airport on Sunday morning. The IDF said it tried to intercept the missile using Arrow and THAAD systems, but failed. A number of US and international airlines have since suspended flights in and out of Israel. This was the first time the Houthis had successfully hit Israel’s national airport. To help us understand what happened and possible next steps, we are joined by Call Me Back regular Nadav Eyal for an emergency episode.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To help struggling Israeli combat veterans find their way back, please visit the American Friends of Israel Navy SEALs’ (AFINS): afins.us/warriorcare Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: 92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/HJI2mX Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Flames that engulfed more than 5,000 acres around Jerusalem as Israel marked its 77th Independence Day. Dozens of Independence Day ceremonies were canceled, and according to many Israelis — the feelings of national solidarity that normally characterize this day were scarce. For the families of hostages in Gaza,  this was their second Yom Haatzmaut without their loved ones. And yet, Israelis are nothing if not resilient. The country’s population has now surpassed 10 million people. Forty-five percent of all Jews on Earth today call Israel home. So, while there are reasons for concern, there are also reasons for hope.  Reflecting on how far Israel has come, and where it may go from here, we are joined by bestselling author and senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute, Yossi Klein Halevi, to discuss the debt we have to Israel’s founders, and to the soldiers who have fallen in its defense.  For Yossi Klein Halevi’s books: tinyurl.com/ycfcn72u CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe here to Ark Media’s new podcast 'What’s Your Number? - https://lnk.to/3AQhX5 Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today we have a special announcement: Ark Media, which we created as a home for Call Me Back, is launching its second podcast: What’s Your Number? - a weekly show focusing on Israel’s economy through a global lens. Hosted by Michal Lev-Ram, an Israeli-born Silicon Valley-based tech journalist and contributing editor at Fortune, and Yonatan Adiri, an Israeli entrepreneur and former adviser to Shimon Peres, What’s Your Number? unpacks the latest developments in the Israeli economy. The podcast debuts this Thursday, May 1. Watch the trailer and subscribe here: https://lnk.to/3AQhX5 This episode of Call Me Back is something of a hybrid between our show and a preview for What’s Your Number? It was our pleasure to sit down with our new hosts, Yonatan Adiri & Michal Lev-Ram, to discuss the historic transformation Israel has been undergoing since October 7th, 2023.  Follow Michal on X: https://x.com/mlevram Follow Yonatan on X: https://x.com/yonatanadiri CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Streaming Notice: THE CHILDREN OF OCTOBER 7 — a new documentary film — reminds us all that Jewish children were slaughtered or taken hostage or made to watch the slaughtering of their parents in a systematic way not only in 1943, but in 2023. There’s a reason why antisemitism is called “the oldest hatred.” It’s also the most persistent. This is a difficult film to watch, but we are thankful to Montana Tucker and Eytan Schwartz for making it, and to Shari Redstone for finding it a home. That home is Paramount Plus. To watch the film, go to: https://www.paramountplus.com/movies/video/C3COr43yl99oKdjeWNsuo2Ma2OP4zvGv/ To watch the trailer: https://youtu.be/LMC0Vef3V98? Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s Conversation: On Tuesday, ​Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar submitted a newsmaking affidavit to Israel’s Supreme Court, claiming he was dismissed by Prime Minister Netanyahu for refusing to carry out politically motivated orders. Bar also provided a 31-page affidavit to the court which is classified. Prime Minister Netanyhau has responded in the press to Bar’s charges and has until Thursday to submit his own affidavit to the high court. In this episode, we discuss a number of the charges, explanations, and counter-charges. But the stakes here go well beyond politics. To understand the forces shaping this highly divisive debate, we are joined by journalist and author Ari Shavit, whose work has long examined the fault lines of Israeli society—most recently in his book, The Third Temple. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

PLEASE FILL OUT OUR SURVEY: https://tinyurl.com/26dwpymb Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor On Saturday night, in an attempt to address two of Israel’s most critical concerns - the hostage crisis in Gaza and the US-Iran nuclear negotiations - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivered a pre-recorded statement, in which he said that Hamas has formally rejected Israel's offer for a new deal. And, against the backdrop of a report in the New York Times that President Trump had headed off Israeli plans for a military operation against Iran’s nuclear program, Netanyahu emphasized: "We are committed to preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons."  With both Tehran and Gaza in mind, we turn to two of Israel’s leading journalists: Nadav Eyal, senior analyst at Yediot Achronot, and Amit Segal, senior political analyst at Channel 12 - to understand Israel’s standing on these two critical fronts.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

PLEASE FILL OUT OUR SURVEY: https://tinyurl.com/26dwpymb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Seven years after President Trump scrapped the Iranian nuclear deal, the U.S. is now engaged in direct negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran to try to reach a new deal. Yet the talks in Oman have so far raised more questions than answers, especially as Steve Witkoff has just clarified the administration's objective with regard to Iran’s nuclear program, and as new reporting emerges of possible U.S.-Israel deliberations over military options.   Joining us is Jonathan Schanzer, Executive Director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Jonathan has been closely monitoring the negotiations and been in contact with relevant U.S. and Israeli officials. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

LINK TO SURVEY: https://tinyurl.com/26dwpymb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s “State of World Jewry Address” at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor The growing CallMeBack community has evolved into something that we are still trying to fully understand. But we are developing a vision and a plan to sustain it, which will include some new podcasts and new podcasts hosts that we hope you’ll add to your feed of regular listens. That's why we've created Ark Media, which will be the home for Call Me Back as well as some other podcasts.  As we step into this next chapter, we want to get to know you better so here is a link to a 2 minute survey – we’d be grateful if you could fill it out and send our way. This is a separate survey from the one we provided almost a year ago, so please, even if you’ve filled out that survey, we ask that you spend 2 minutes on this one as well.  From all of us at Ark Media, we wish you a meaningful Pesach.

Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s “State of World Jewry Address” at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg In response to escalating tensions with Iran, the US, over the past month, has been quietly — and not so quietly — ramping up its military presence in the region, signaling it’s preparing for the possibility of direct confrontation with Iran. Six B-2 stealth bombers, capable of carrying bunker busting weapons, have been deployed to Diego Garcia, a remote base in the Indian Ocean that's well within striking distance of Iran. At the same time, while missile defense systems have been repositioned to guard against Iranian retaliation, the US Navy has extended the deployment of the Harry Truman carrier strike group and has sent in the USS Carl Vinson, adding serious firepower to the region. So, to many Israelis, it came as a surprise when President Trump, with Mr. Netanyahu sitting beside him, announced on Monday that the United States would engage in “direct” negotiations with Iran on Saturday, in a last-ditch effort to rein in the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program. So we’re looking at a very volatile situation, with military might being deployed on the one hand, and a diplomacy track underway on the other. How are Israeli decision-makers assessing the situation? With us today is Call me Back regular Nadav Eyal, senior analyst for Yediot Achronot, to help us unpack how we got here, and what Israelis expect to happen next.    CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Today’s episode:  Jews began celebrating Passover during the actual exodus from Egypt, sometime in the 13th–15th century BCE, and the tradition has continued—evolving but unbroken—ever since. To honor this tradition, we will be doing something different on this Call me Back episode - we will be talking about Passover, and about what this tradition can teach us about this paradoxical moment. With us today is Rachel Goldberg, who – for most of her career – was a professional Jewish educator. We wanted to speak with her as we prepare for our seders.  Items discussed in this episode: BOOK: A Cold War Exodus: How American Activists Mobilized to Free Soviet Jews, by Shaul Kelner PODCAST: Listening to "Call Me Back" On Motzaei Shabbos    CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Please follow this link to subscribe to SAPIR, a quarterly publication edited by Bret Stephens: sapirjournal.org/dansenor Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address It was a historic week in Gaza, as tens of thousands of Palestinians protested against Hamas in the largest demonstrations against Hamas in Gaza’s history. While the protests seem to have dissipated amidst a violent crackdown by Hamas and the killing of several protest leaders, these demonstrations could have a meaningful impact on Gaza’s future. To discuss the context behind these protests and where they might lead, we sat down with a native of Gaza who has been one of the most outspoken voices against Hamas in the Palestinian diaspora.  Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib is a Gazan-American writer and analyst whose work has been published in The Atlantic, The Wall Street Journal, and many other publications. Ahmed grew up in Gaza and left in 2005 as an exchange student in the United States, where he later received asylum and citizenship. Ahmed is a Resident Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council, where he directs the Realign for Palestine project: https://realignforpalestine.org/ Follow Ahmed on X: https://x.com/afalkhatib The Times of Israel article referenced in this episode: https://www.timesofisrael.com/gazan-man-murdered-by-hamas-after-joining-protests-against-terror-group/ CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg For this special episode of Call Me Back, we sat down with two long-time friends, Dina Powell McCormick and Senator Dave McCormick, to speak about their new book, Who Believed in You: How Purposeful Mentorship Changes the World. We also discussed Senator McCormick’s work on Israel/Middle East foreign policy.  Dina Powell McCormick is a partner at BDT & MSD Partners and was formerly a partner and member of the management committee at Goldman Sachs. She has served in various roles in government, including Deputy National Security Advisor in the first Trump administration, and in a number of senior positions in the White House and State Department under the George W. Bush Administration.  David McCormick is a US Senator of Pennsylvania and Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Near East, South Asia, Central Asia, Counterterrorism. He is the former CEO of Bridgewater Associates and also served in high-ranking positions in the George W. Bush administration.  Dina & David McCormick’s new book, Who Believed in You: How Purposeful Mentorship Changes the World: https://a.co/d/0uvZceY OR https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/who-believed-in-you-david-mccormick/1144556623?ean=9781400235919 CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer ZIV GEDZELMAN - Additional Research

Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Israelis are bracing for a crisis between the Government and the Judiciary, after the Government took the unprecedented step of firing the head of the Shin Bet, Ronen Bar, prompting Israel’s Supreme Court to freeze his suspension. Prime Minister Netanyahu and his government have made clear their intent to move forward with Bar’s dismissal, and have already started the search for his replacement.  While much of this is historic, tensions between the Shin Bet and Israel’s elected leaders are nothing new. In fact, this friction goes back to the founding of the State.  Our guest is Amichai Cohen, who joins us from Israel. Amichai is an expert on Israel’s internal security agency, and the laws concerning Israel’s national security. He is a Senior Fellow at the Israel Democracy Institute, where he leads the program on national security. Amichai is also the author of four books, and a professor of law at Ono Academic College. His latest article, about the firing of Ronen Bar, is available here: https://en.idi.org.il/articles/58760 CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Upcoming Event Notice: Dan Senor will be delivering this year’s State of World Jewry Address at the 92nd Street Y (92NY) on Tuesday May 13 at 7:30 pm. To register: https://www.92ny.org/event/the-state-of-world-jewry-address Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg Israel’s pre-October 7th and post-October 7th worlds are colliding, as the war in Gaza resumes, along with the internal strife that preceded it.  Today we discuss Israel’s new and expanding military campaign in Gaza, its objectives, the difference in war-fighting strategy between the IDF’s former chief-of-staff and new chief-of-staff, and the kind of enemy the IDF is facing now in Gaza compared to what the IDF was facing before the ceasefire. All of this is against the backdrop of domestic political tensions reaching a boiling point over the Government’s efforts to remove the head of the Shin Bet and the Attorney General.  Our guest is Seth Frantzman, who joins us from Jerusalem. Seth is the senior Middle East correspondent and analyst at The Jerusalem Post. He is also an adjunct fellow at the Foundation For Defense of Democracies, and the author of three books. He received his PhD from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Seth has served as a research associate at the IDC in Herzliya and a lecturer at Al-Quds University. His latest book is The October 7 War: Israel’s Battle for Security in Gaza: https://lnk.to/XGEe6bx0. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg   We recorded an emergency episode as fighting resumes against Hamas in Gaza, ending a cease-fire that lasted 57 days; as military operations escalate between the U.S. and the Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen; and as Prime Minister Netanyahu moves to fire Ronen Bar, the head of the Shin Bet security agency. To discuss this rapidly-evolving escalation of events we are joined by two of Israel’s leading journalists and mainstays of this podcast.    Amit Segal is a columnist for Yediot Ahronot, and chief political analyst for Israel’s Channel 12.    Nadav Eyal is also a columnist at Yediot, and the recipient of Israel’s equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize. He is also an adjunct professor at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs.    Nadav’s article about Netanyahu’s decision to fire Shin Bet Chief Ronen Bar: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/skykzau31e   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor of Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/OrSnIuzd-Fc To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg   In the immediate aftermath of October 7, 2023, many Israelis expected a political reckoning. Yet, no clear alternative to Netanyahu has emerged. While there is no shortage of politicians who oppose him, the power of those on the center and the left seems stymied at best. We invited the leader of the official opposition in Israel’s Knesset to the podcast to discuss what he and his party stand for, whether the center of gravity of Israel’s politics has shifted, and why Israel’s political opposition does not appear to be a major force today.   Yair Lapid is a former journalist and the founder and leader of Israel’s centrist Yesh Atid party. Since entering politics in 2013, Lapid has served as Israel’s Finance Minister, Foreign Minister, and for a brief time, Prime Minister. He is now Leader of the Opposition.     CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/eRJo_4ajvjU To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Ark Media on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkmediaorg   To sponsor Call me Back episodes: [email protected]   Over the last 17 months, we have watched in shock as Ivy League campuses became hotbeds of support for terrorists and their ideology. A powerful new documentary that the Academy Awards refused to consider illuminates how - and more importantly why - college campuses became a pivotal front in the war against Israel.    “October 8” opens in theaters on Friday, March 14th, featuring a number of Call Me Back guests. The film is riveting, and revealing, examining the forces that enabled Islamist extremists to shape the minds of millions of well-meaning Americans.    We sat down with the filmmaker and one of the experts in her film, to discuss Hamas’s infiltration of academia, the entertainment industry, and other progressive spaces.   Wendy Sachs is an author, documentary filmmaker and Director and Executive Producer of October 8.    Lorenzo Vidino is Director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University.    More about “October 8” here: https://www.october8film.com/   See if the film is playing in a theater near you: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Su6dhLxHGWuOKrDjXregnmgPd6SxJcAd4fRVa07yTvk/edit?tab=t.0   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor, Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MQRA0gZlk To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor ------------------------------------------------------>> Please follow this link to subscribe to SAPIR, a quarterly publication edited by Bret Stephens: sapirjournal.org/CallMeBack ------------------------------------------------------>> Link to our previous interview with Yoav Gallant: https://youtu.be/aPEPztvsJGQ Last month we published the first in a series of interviews with former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, telling the story of the October 7th War from his unique vantage point. Our first interview, “Four Days in October,” focused on the intense deliberations that took place behind closed doors regarding the possibility of Israel responding to its stronger adversary first, Hezbollah in Lebanon, rather than Hamas in the Gaza Strip. If you have not heard or seen that interview, you can find it here.  For the second interview in our series with General Gallant, we focused on the most difficult aspect of this war - the hostages in Gaza and the efforts to bring them home. Yoav Gallant served as Israel’s Defense Minister from 2022 until 2024. He was fired by Benjamin Netanyahu twice in those two years, first in 2023, when massive protests in Israel led Netanyahu to reverse his decision, then again in November of 2024. Gallant is a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party. His military career spans five decades, beginning in 1977 as a naval commando in Shayetet 13, and serving as chief of the IDF’s Southern Command during Operation Cast Lead, an early war with Hamas that lasted from late 2008 to early 2009.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor of Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer AMIEL SHAPIRO - Voice Actor

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Last week, three federal agencies — including the Department of Education — announced a comprehensive review of the funding relationships between the federal government and Columbia University in regards to Title VI of the Civil Rights Act. Like most universities, Columbia receives a great deal of federal funding.  The Federal Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism, created by the Trump Administration, announced that it will visit 10 university campuses that have  seen a shocking rise in antisemitism since October 7, 2023. According to Education Secretary Linda McMahon, “Americans have watched in horror for more than a year now, as Jewish students have been assaulted and harassed on elite university campuses. Unlawful encampments and demonstrations have completely paralyzed day-to-day campus operations, depriving Jewish students of learning opportunities to which they are entitled. Institutions that receive federal funds have a responsibility to protect all students from discrimination. Columbia’s apparent failure to uphold their end of this basic agreement raises very serious questions about the institution’s fitness to continue doing business with the United States government.” According to Maya Sulkin in the Free Press, “even though Columbia formed a Task Force on Antisemitism weeks after Hamas’s invasion of Israel on October 7, 2023, and issued two reports that revealed shocking instances of Jew hate on campus—not just among students but professors and administrators—the college has done little to root out the problem.”As a result, on Friday the Trump Administration announced the cancellation of $400 million in federal grants to  and contracts with Columbia.  Following these developments, one could be left with the impression that higher education is doomed. Yetwe were struck by the reaction from the Call Me Back community to a conversation we had with the Chancellor of Vanderbilt University, Daniel Diermeier, last November, in an episode titled “How Vanderbilt University is getting it right.” It reminded us that some universities have impressively navigated the past 16 months. Vanderbilt is one of them. Another is Washington University. The Chancellors of both universities (Washington University Chancellor Andrew Martin and Vanderbilt’s Diermeier) recently issued a set of principles that every university should be able to adopt. They summarized these principles in a piece in the Chronicle of Higher Education, titled: “Universities Must Reject Creeping Politicization.” You can read it here:  There have been other universities, like the University of Michigan, which in the months after October 7, 2023 experienced massive disruptions. Yet according to conversations we have had with current Jewish students, the university administration has been doing much better than others. University of Michigan President Santa Ono has taken promising steps on a number of fronts, including the University’s relationship with Israel, that could also serve as  a model. So, against the backdrop of chaos at Columbia and Barnard this past week, we sat down with WashU’s Andrew Martin and Michigan’s Santa Ono at the ADL’s “Never is Now” Summit in New York City, for a candid conversation about what has happened at each of their universities, lessons learned, and charting a path forward.  Additional items: ADL’s Campus Antisemitism Report Card: https://www.adl.org/campus-antisemitism-report-card -Free Press reporting on Columbia University: https://www.thefp.com/p/exclusive-trump-administration-cancels -https://www.thefp.com/p/trump-columbia-antisemitism-federal-funding CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor of Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/pSSh03tpRII To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   The Two-State Solution had been on life support long before October 7. While Hamas’s massacre shattered Israelis from all walks of life, those from the kibbutzim near the Gaza border — many of whom lifelong advocates for a Palestinian State — were among the hardest hit.    Though stark divisions in Israeli society remain, there now seems to be a broad consensus among the people of Israel and their political parties on one conclusion: the two-state solution is all but dead. Yet one Israeli leader - one of the very few who battled terrorists in Southern Israel and rescued Israelis on October 7 - continues to hold out hope.    Yair Golan is a decorated general, former IDF Deputy Chief of Staff  and head of the The Israeli Democrats Party. We sat down with General Golan to discuss Israel’s future, the misconceptions that led to October 7, and the unique role he played on that darkest of days.    CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor of Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor On Thursday, the IDF released the scathing findings of its probe into the military failures that led up to and accompanied the massacre of October 7, 2023.  According to those findings, the military vastly underestimated Hamas’s capabilities, misread its intentions, and failed to mount an effective response to the mass invasion of Israel’s borders. The IDF’s probe into its own failures reveals both the extent to which warnings went ignored, and the extent to which so many communities in Southern Israel were forced to fend for themselves.  While some of these findings come as no surprise, they are still shocking and devastating to process. We spoke with two of Israel’s leading national security journalists to walk through the key points of the findings.   Amos Harel is the Defense Analyst at Haaretz, and Nadav Eyal is a Senior Political Analyst at Yediot Achronot.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Additional Editing YARDENA SCHWARTZ - Executive Editor of Ark Media GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research   YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjgvkBGiejU&t=40s To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor An entire nation mourned yesterday as Shiri, Ariel and Kfir Bibas were laid to rest, following a procession through streets of Israel that were lined with thousands of Israelis. As Yarden Bibas delivered eulogies for his wife and children who were murdered by terrorists in Gaza, we were all reminded of the millions of people around the world who celebrated or justified the attacks that shattered their lives and so many others. While much of that moral confusion has emanated from the Left of the political spectrum, the courage and moral conviction of one leader on the Left has stood out.  Over the past 16 months, Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman has been one of the staunchest supporters of Israel’s war against Hamas. Fetterman, a Democrat who is not Jewish, has been more outspoken in his support for Israel than most of his Jewish colleagues. As a result, Fetterman has gone from being a hero of the Left to becoming a lightning rod for many progressives. And yet, he has not backed down from the fight he perceives as a decisive turning point for his party, and a test for whether or not it will continue to stand for true liberal values.  John Fetterman, Senator and former Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania, joined us to discuss his controversial stance on an issue that has divided the Democratic party, and what the future holds for his party.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Additional Editing STAV SLAMA - Director of Operations  GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   As phase 1 of the ceasefire and hostage deal enters its final week, the fate of phase 2 of the deal remains uncertain. While hostages’ families are urging for a continuation of the deal to bring all the remaining hostages home, parts of the Israeli government are pressing for a return to the war.  With Mideast Envoy Steve Witkoff traveling to the region this week to push for an extension of the deal, we turned to a Call Me Back regular and leading Israeli journalist to make sense of the mixed signals we are seeing from every direction.  Amit Segal is a columnist for Yediot Ahronot, and a senior political analyst for Israel’s Channel 12.  CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Additional Editing STAV SLAMA - Director of Operations  GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Housekeeping note: Ark Media, the humble home of this podcast, is looking for a purpose-driven Chief Operating Officer, to help facilitate its ambitious plans for the future. If you are interested in applying for the position, please follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/mp5udcxr   Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   Following a gut-wrenching 48 hours for the Bibas family and for all of us, six living hostages were released from Gaza today, including two who had been held there not for a year, but a decade. Eliya Cohen, Omer Shem Tov, Omer Wenkert, and Tal Shoham were abducted on October 7, 2023. Avera Mengistu, an Ethiopian-Israeli, and Hisham al-Sayed, an Israeli Arab, had crossed into Gaza in 2014 and 2015, and were then taken hostage by Hamas. Hamas’s decision to release more living hostages than originally planned today is believed – according to our Israeli sources – to be a response to a sustained American pressure campaign. Part of that pressure includes President Trump’s proposal for the U.S. to take control of Gaza and relocate its entire population. Two weeks since its unveiling, Trump’s Gaza proposal has continued to drive headlines and debate around the world. Though that proposal is already impacting the policy decisions of various stakeholders in Gaza, it is still largely perceived as a shocking, unprecedented idea. For this episode of Call Me Back, we sat down with a historian who argues that Trump’s plan is in fact aligned with the outcome of many modern wars.   Andrew Roberts is a British historian, member of the House of Lords, and the author of 24 books, including the New York Times bestseller, Churchill: Walking with Destiny. In a recent article for the Washington Free Beacon, Roberts writes, “peoples who unleash unprovoked aggressive wars against their neighbors and are then defeated…lose either their government or their sovereignty, or both.” To read more by Andrew Roberts on this topic, go to the Washington Free Beacon: https://freebeacon.com/israel/the-historical-case-for-trumps-riviera/

This morning in Gaza, in a ceremony that was even more twisted than those that came before it, Hamas paraded four coffins, containing the dead bodies of four hostages who were killed in captivity, before handing them over to the Red Cross. Israel then received the remains of Oded Lifshitz, an 83-year-old peace activist abducted from his home in Kibbutz Nir Oz; and the bodies of the iconic young mother Shiri Bibas, and her boys, Kfir and Ariel, who were respectively 9 months old and 4 years old at the time of their abduction, also from Nir Oz, which lost a quarter of its residents on October 7, 2023.  Shiri, Kfir and Ariel came to symbolize Hamas’s brutality and the helplessness of the victims of October 7. Oded was also a symbol of the many men and women who had dedicated their lives to seeking peace with the Palestinians, and whose lives were brutally ended by Palestinians on that darkest of days.  In a year of somber days, today is one of the more difficult ones we have experienced - here at Call Me Back, and as a nation. We are joined today to process this wrenching moment by a Call Me Back favorite: Matti Friedman, to help us understand what this day means for Israel, and how it will change us and the stories we tell ourselves about Israel and our hopes for peace.  Matt Friedman is an award-winning journalist and author of four books. He is based in Jerusalem, and writes a column for The Free Press. Read his latest, “The Family That Never Came Home,” here: https://www.thefp.com/p/matti-friedman-the-bibas-shiri-kfir-ariel-yarden Matti’s books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Matti-Friedman/author/B0073YU31C Link to Seth Mandel’s article in Commentary Magazine, mentioned by Dan in this episode: https://www.commentary.org/seth-mandel/the-meaning-of-kfir-bibas/ We would like to take this opportunity to thank Rebecca Strom, who has been running Ark Media’s operations almost since the beginning of the war, and is now moving on to the next chapter in her career. Rebecca was our first hire, and in hindsight, having her run our operations allowed Ilan and Dan to develop a larger vision. More on that in the near future. In the meantime, on behalf of the Ark Media team, we want to share our gratitude for all the hard work, long hours, holidays and weekends that Rebecca poured into this venture. Consequently, Ark Media is now looking for a hard working, mission-aligned, highly motivated Chief Operating Officer. If you want to throw your hat into the ring,  please follow this link   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor STAV SLAMA - Director of Operations GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   As we mark the 500th day of the war in Gaza, and 500 days of captivity for the Israeli hostages who remain there, the future of this fragile ceasefire-hostage deal is looking increasingly less stable. With every day bringing new twists and turns, we turned to a “Call Me Back” regular to help us make sense of where the war stands and where it may be going.     Nadav Eyal of Yediot Ahronot is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news. Link to the Bret Stephens article mentioned in this episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/opinion/trump-hamas-gaza-israel.html CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations STAV SLAMA - Researcher  GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation here: https://youtu.be/aPEPztvsJGQ   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   In the 16 months since October 7th, the leader who knows more than almost anyone about the inner workings of this war has barely been heard from – until now.    In this episode of ”Call Me Back”, we hear the behind the scenes story of the war with Hamas and Hezbollah from Yoav Gallant, who served as Israel’s Defense Minister for the first 13 months of this 16-month war.    In his first English-language interview since the war began, the former Defense Minister offers an intimate account of the war’s initial hours and days, with an emphasis on one date that could have changed it all: October 11th, 2023.   This episode is the first in a series of interviews we will be posting with General Gallant, chronicling the historic and unprecedented events of the last 16 months.   Yoav Gallant served as Israel’s Defense Minister from 2022 until 2024. He was fired by Benjamin Netanyahu twice in those two years, first in 2023, when massive protests in Israel led Netanyahu to reverse his decision, then again in November of 2024. Gallant is a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party. His military career spans five decades, beginning in 1977 as a naval commando in Shayetet 13, and serving as chief of the IDF’s Southern Command during Operation Cast Lead, an early war with Hamas that lasted from late 2008 to early 2009.    CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations STAV SLAMA - Researcher  GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/zy-BEfKyQMY     To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/     Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor     Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor     President Trump’s dramatic and unprecedented press conference  on Gaza, suggesting U.S. control and some form of relocation of its residents, has immediately shifted the conversation beyond the default two-state framework. In this episode, we break down how the Israeli public is reacting to Trump’s proposal, what it means for Netanyahu’s political standing, and the implications for the ceasefire and the hostage deal negotiations.     Joining us to unpack these developments are Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal, two Call Me Back regulars.   Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediot Aharonot and one of Israel’s leading journalists. He has been covering Middle Eastern and international politics for over two decades across Israeli radio, print, and television news.   Amit Segal is the chief political correspondent and analyst for Channel 12 News and Yediot Aharonot, Israel’s largest-circulation newspaper.     CREDITS:   ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor   MARTIN HUERGO - Editor   REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations   STAV SLAMA - Researcher   GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern   YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer    

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   Yesterday, in a dramatic and unexpected press conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Trump called for a U.S. takeover of Gaza, and to relocate its two million Palestinian residents to alternative countries. President Trump also issued a series of executive orders impacting Israel and the Middle East, including one imposing maximum pressure on Iran.   To discuss these fast-moving developments, Rich Goldberg returns to the podcast. Rich is a senior advisor at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD). From 2019-2020, he served as Director for Countering Iranian Weapons of Mass Destruction for the Trump White House National Security Council (NSC). He previously served as a national security staffer in the U.S. Senate and U.S. House and is an officer in the U.S. Navy Reserve with military experience on the Joint Staff and in Afghanistan.   CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations STAV SLAMA - Researcher GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer 

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   As Israelis welcome home more hostages after 15 months in Hamas captivity, we sat down with Nadav Eyal to discuss what their stories reveal about their captivity, their role in Israel’s national healing process, and the broader implications for Israeli society. We also discuss the ongoing negotiations for the next phase of hostage releases, the political stakes surrounding Netanyahu’s visit to Washington, and how these developments could shape Israel and the region.   Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.   CREDITS:   ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor   MARTIN HUERGO - Editor   REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations   STAV SLAMA - Researcher    GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern    YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/QrVakL6qcGg   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   As Israelis continue to observe the implementation of the hostage deal, we sat down with Walter Russell Mead for a conversation about U.S. foreign policy under the new Trump administration. How do we make sense of the president’s approach as he enters his new administration? What are the implications  - both for the Middle East and other geopolitical hotspots? And, where does the hostage/ceasefire deal fit in this new and larger geopolitical context?   Walter Russell Mead is the “Global View” columnist at the Wall Street Journal. He is the Ravenel B. Curry III Distinguished Fellow in Strategy and Statesmanship at Hudson Institute, the Alexander Hamilton Professor of Strategy and Statecraft with the Hamilton Center for Classical and Civic Education at the University of Florida. He was previously the Henry Kissinger fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.    He is also a prolific author. His most recent book is -- The Arc of a Covenant: The United States, Israel, and the Fate of the Jewish People, which you order here – https://a.co/d/3J67FYL   CREDITS:   ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor   MARTIN HUERGO - Editor   REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations   STAV SLAMA - Researcher    GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern 

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   Over the past couple of weeks, our focus on “Call Me Back” has been on the hostage deal and its implications.  Today Amit Segal returns to the podcast to discuss the perspective of those inside Israel opposed to this deal.  Amit Segal is the chief political correspondent and analyst for Channel 12 News, and for Yediot Ahronot, the country’s largest circulation newspaper.    CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Editor REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations STAV SLAMA - Researcher  GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern  YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/vqT4MJKzEp0   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   Today, we are taking a step back to discuss many of the new opportunities across the landscape for the U.S. and Israel, as a new president takes office.    Our guest is Dr. Tal Becker, who serves as Vice President and Senior Faculty of the Kogod Research Center at Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. Tal was the former Legal Adviser of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is a veteran member of successive Israeli peace negotiation teams and, most recently, represented Israel before the International Court of Justice and played an instrumental role in negotiating and drafting the historic peace and normalization agreements (the "Abraham Accords"). Tal earned his doctorate from Columbia University in New York City, and is the recipient of numerous scholarly awards, including the Rabin Peace Prize, and the Guggenheim Prize for best international law book for his book "Terrorism and the State".   CREDITS:   ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor   MARTIN HUERGO - Editor   REBECCA STROM - Director of Operations   STAV SLAMA - Researcher    GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research Intern    YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   On Sunday evening in Israel, after 471 days in captivity, three hostages — Romi Gonen, Emily Damari, and Doron Steinbrecher  — were released from Gaza and returned home to Israel, as a ceasefire in Gaza went into effect.    There has been speculation as to why this deal was agreed upon now, and about whether January 19th effectively marked the end of the Gaza war. And more than anything, there is palpable anxiety about the fate of the remaining hostages.    To take in this moment and unpack these questions about what comes next, we are joined by Yossi Klein Halevi and Wendy Singer.   Yossi Klein Halevi is a senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. Yossi has written a number of books, including his latest, "Letters to My Palestinian Neighbor," which was a New York Times bestseller. He has written for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Times of Israel. He is co-host of "For Heaven's Sake" podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/for-heavens-sake/id1522222281   Yossi Klein Halevi's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IXOA04   Wendy Singer was the professional founder of Start-Up Nation Central (SNC), where she served as Executive Director for nine years. Wendy currently serves as a strategic advisor to select Israeli start-ups and NGOs, including the National Library of Israel. Before joining Israel’s tech scene, she spent sixteen years as Head of AIPAC’s Israel office. Wendy is a board member of the Shalom Hartman Institute; and a Trustee of the Russell Berrie Foundation. 

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   After fifteen months of war, and months of on-again, off-again negotiations, Israel and Hamas have reached a hostage deal, which is set to take effect this upcoming Sunday.    What are the key points of the deal? What should we expect - or brace for - as hostages return home to Israel? And - will this deal mean the end of the war?    To take in this historic development, and to help us understand all the above questions, we welcome back Nadav Eyal to the podcast.    Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   As we wait in anticipation of a hostage deal, we welcome President Trump’s incoming National Security Adviser, Rep. Mike Waltz, to the podcast, to discuss the possible hostage deal, and his thoughts on the U.S.-Israel relationship.    Congressman Mike Waltz is a Colonel (Ret.) in the National Guard, and the first Green Beret to be elected to Congress. He worked on counter-terrorism in the Bush White House and was a policy advisor at the Pentagon, serving under Secretaries Rumsfeld and Gates, and a Congressman from Florida. As President Trump is sworn in as president - this upcoming Monday, January 20th, inauguration day - so will Mike Waltz, as the president’s National Security Advisor.    Mike graduated from the Virginia Military Institute with Honors and served 27 years in the U.S. Army and National Guard. After being commissioned as an Army lieutenant, Mike graduated Ranger School and was selected for the elite Green Berets, serving worldwide as a Special Forces officer with multiple combat tours in Afghanistan, the Middle East and Africa. For his actions in combat, Mike was awarded four Bronze Stars, including two for Valor.    Mike is the author of the books, “Warrior Diplomat: A Green Beret’s Battles from Washington to Afghanistan”: https://a.co/d/18NEaB0 , and “Hard Truths: Think and Lead Like a Green Beret”: https://a.co/d/c0lnM9B

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast   To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/   Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor   Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   The collapse of Assad’s regime in Syria has created a new geopolitical reality, in which Turkey has emerged as a dominant regional power, both militarily and diplomatically. For Israel, this new reality entails certain risks, but also opportunities for cooperation?   What is Turkey’s next move - and what are Erdogan’s ambitions? And how is Israel preparing for this new order?    To help us understand, our guests are Dr. Hay Eytan Cohen Yanarocak and Call me Back regular Nadav Eyal.    Dr. Hay Eytan Cohen Yanarocak, who moved to Israel from Turkey, is a researcher at the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies at Tel Aviv University, and an expert on contemporary Turkish politics and society. Yanarocak is the editor of Turkeyscope, and a member of the Middle East Network Analysis Desk. He is a frequent guest on Israeli media, where he regularly appears to discuss contemporary Turkish issues.    Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   Yesterday in Washington D.C., former U.S. President Jimmy Carter’s funeral service was held at the National Cathedral.    The former president’s post-presidential legacy has had a lasting impact on today’s Middle East. President Carter was known for brokering the Egypt-Israel peace treaty between Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin, which has lasted over four decades. However, he was also the first national leader of his stature to openly embrace Hamas, to accuse Israel of “apartheid”, and to legitimize Hamas’s slaughtering of Jews through suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism, during and following the Second Intifada.    How did President Carter go from an engaged diplomat working for peace between Israel and Egypt to championing Hamas and its narrative of Israeli “apartheid”?    To discuss the paradox of President Carter when it comes to Israel, and his impact on current day events in the Middle East, our guest is Ken Stein.    Dr. Kenneth W. Stein is Emeritus Emory Professor of Middle Eastern History and Israel studies where he taught from 1977-2024.  Early in the 1980s, he led  the Middle East Program of the Carter Center, which included multiple trips to the region with the Carters, writing a book with him, and  providing monthly analyses to the former president. In 1998, Ken established the first Israel Studies Center in North America and founded the Center for Israel Education in 2008.   Pertinent to this interview, are his 1999 publication, Heroic Diplomacy: Sadat, Kissinger, Carter, Begin and the Quest for Arab-0Israeli Peace  and a personal collection of the hundreds of hours of conversations he had with Carter over a twenty year span.  He is also the author with Ambassador Samuel Lewis,  “Making Peace Among Arabs and Israelis: Lessons from Fifty Years of Negotiating Experience”,  https://www.amazon.com/Making-peace-among-Arabs-Israelis/dp/B002X78MGW [amazon.com]   Book discussed in this episode: https://tinyurl.com/4h7pmwzf   Recent article by Ken Stein: https://m.jpost.com/international/article-835320

Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr8LqOg69K8 To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit:  https://arkmedia.org/ Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor   A few days ago, we all learned of new details and viewed footage from one of Israel's most high-risk and complex commando operations. The operation was a covert mission conducted by the IDF on September 8, 2024, targeting an underground missile production facility near Masyaf, Syria. The facility, associated with Syria's Scientific Studies and Research Center, was reportedly on the verge of producing precision-guided missiles with ranges of up to 300 kilometers, intended to be supplied to Hezbollah for use against Israel.  To unpack what exactly happened in this operation to neutralize this Iranian/Syrian facility — and the implications for Israel’s broader war with Iran — we are joined by Nadav Eyal.  Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.

🔗 Watch video episodes of Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast 🔗 Visit our website to sign up for updates, access transcripts and more: https://arkmedia.org/ 🔗 Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor 🔗 Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor The string of Israeli successes against Hezbollah — culminating in the killing of Hassan Nasrallah — last September was partly the work of Israeli military and intelligence agencies infiltrating Hezbollah’s networks, planting booby-trapped communication devices, and tracking the leaders’ movements to dismantle the group's military capabilities. This campaign crippled Hezbollah by also destroying thousands of missiles and disrupting its leadership, delivering a blow to Iran’s regional strategy.  An investigative report recently published by the New York Times delves into how deeply Israeli intelligence had penetrated Hezbollah ranks. Our guest today is one of the report’s authors: Ronen Bergman.  Ronen Bergman is a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine and Senior Correspondent for Military and Intelligence Affairs for Yedioth Ahronoth, an Israeli daily. Ronen has won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on the Israel-Hamas war and the pre-war intelligence failures.  The New York Times’ investigative report, co-authored by Ronen: “Behind the Dismantling of Hezbollah: Decades of Israeli Intelligence” - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-nasrallah-assassination-intelligence.html

🔗 Subscribe to watch video episodes of Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast 🔗 Visit our website to sign up for updates, access transcripts and more: https://arkmedia.org/ 🔗 Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor 🔗 Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor Last Thursday, The New York Times published a long investigative piece titled “Israel Loosened Its Rules to Bomb Hamas Fighters, Killing Many More Civilians”. The article tries to identify an unprecedented shift in the IDF’s military strategy and rules of engagement during its response to Hamas’s October 7 invasion, and reports on the impact on Palestinian civilians, including a substantial increase in risk to Palestinian civilians.  To discuss the ethics of Israel fighting a just war justly, to help us unpack and respond to the key charges in the Times investigation, and to briefly reflect on the (post-presidential) legacy of President Jimmy Carter, we welcome back to the podcast, Yossi Klein Halevi, who is a senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. Yossi has written a number of books, including his latest, "Letters to My Palestinian Neighbor," which was a New York Times bestseller. He has written for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Times of Israel. He is co-host of "For Heaven's Sake" podcast. Yossi Klein Halevi's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IXOA04 Articles discussed in this episode:  “Israel Loosened Its Rules to Bomb Hamas Fighters, Killing Many More Civilians” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-bombing.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&tgrp=sty&pvid=1FCD1780-A3CA-40EB-BBFF-99870A87D46E “Teens forced to perform sexual acts on each other: Report to UN details Hamas torture” https://www.timesofisrael.com/teens-forced-to-perform-sexual-acts-on-each-other-report-to-un-details-hamas-torture/ “Jimmy Carter, friend of dictators and champion of terrorists”  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3181150/jimmy-carter-friend-dictators-and-champion-terrorists/

  🔗Subscribe to watch video episodes of Call me Back on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast 🔗Visit our website to sign up for updates, access transcripts and more: https://arkmedia.org/ 🔗Dan on X: https://x.com/dansenor 🔗Dan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenor On thousands of street corners in Israel today, there are banners that read: “bring the hostages back from the darkness.” It’s excruciating to think that this is the second Hanukkah since October 7th with hostages still in Gaza.  For today’s episode, we will be replaying an episode from a conversation I had with Haviv Rettig Gur during the 4th day of the pause in fighting during the last (and, to date, only) hostage deal, while hostages were being returned to Israel, back in November 2023. As Haviv put it  in this conversation, it had been the first time since October 7 that he could “breathe”. It’s a feeling that we can pray will be alive again soon.  This replay episode is one way to reflect on where we were a year ago, and where we are now. Today, Hamas is only more desperate and Israel’s geopolitical and military position in the Middle East has never been stronger. There is a lot of analysis in this conversation with Haviv that is relevant to the hostage negotiations occurring right now.

Over the past week, we have seen headline after headline, indicating that Israel and Hamas appear to be closer than ever to a ceasefire and hostage deal.  According to reports, the agreement would take place in phases, and would include a halt in fighting, an exchange of Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners, and a surge in aid to Gaza. The final phase would include the release of any remaining hostages, an end to the war and talks on reconstruction.  How legitimate are these reports - is this for real? What political conditions, both in Israel and among key players in these negotiations, could allow for such a deal to be finalized?  To help us understand, and to briefly discuss the recent Houthi attacks, Nadav Eyal returns to the podcast.  Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.

Was 1929 a harbinger of October 7th, 2023?   August 23rd, 1929, nearly 100 years ago, marks the day of what is referred to in history as the 1929 Arab Riots: a wave of pogroms waged against the Jews living in British Mandatory Palestine. These pogroms began in Jerusalem and quickly spread to other cities and towns, including Hebron, Safed, Jaffa, and Haifa. The riots had largely subsided by August 29th, after 113 Jews were murdered.    Just a few months ago, we at Call me Back released a special series of episodes wherein we spoke with thought leaders about the lasting impact of October 7th on Israelis, on Jews, and on the geopolitics of the Middle East and beyond. (Watch the special series here on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiYCxMRIBxFoxg8e8Efe0Rz5DZv7VXQeQ)   Today, we examine the 1929 Arab Riots taking a broad view at how they shaped the following 100 years.    Our guest is Yardena Schwartz, author of the recently published book: “Ghosts of a Holy War: The 1929 Massacre in Palestine That Ignited the Arab-Israeli Conflict” - a meticulously researched work that examines the 1929 Hebron massacre, where nearly 70 Jewish residents were killed by their Arab neighbors and friends, and that explores its impact on the Arab-Israeli conflict.    Yardena Schwartz is an award-winning journalist, an  Emmy-nominated producer, and author of “Ghosts of a Holy War: The 1929 Massacre in Palestine That Ignited the Arab-Israeli Conflict.” Her reporting from four continents has been published in dozens of publications, including the New York Times, New York Review of Books, Wall Street Journal, The Economist, Time, National Geographic, Rolling Stone, and Foreign Policy. She has also worked at NBC News, and she reported from Israel for 10 years.    Yardena’s newly released book, “Ghosts of a Holy War: The 1929 Massacre in Palestine That Ignited the Arab-Israeli conflict”: https://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Holy-War-Palestine-Arab-Israeli/dp/145494921X   Pre-order the audiobook here: https://tinyurl.com/hwphyrp4   Video on the seven American hostages held in Gaza: http://pic.x.com/pkUKmtYrQW

Many would consider the term ‘death factory’ to be associated with another era, one that is long in the past.   But reports have emerged from inside Sednaya prison, bringing to light the horrific death camp and torture complex that was operated by the Assad regime until the regime’s collapse, just one week ago. It has been reported that 96,000 people have disappeared into Syria’s vast network of secret prisons, including thousands of women and children. The overwhelming majority were tortured to death.    The Center for Peace Communications (CPC), an NGO that works through media, schools and spiritual centers to resolve identity-based conflicts in the Middle East and North Africa, gained unprecedented access to Sednaya. They have captured exclusive footage from inside its underground dungeons, and recorded testimonies of those lucky enough to survive what many have called a human slaughterhouse. This footage was released by and in partnership with The Free Press.    To discuss what we know about Sednaya prison and Syria’s path moving forward, our guests are Joseph Braude and Ahed Al Hendi.    Joseph Braude is the founder and president of the Center for Peace Communications. He is the author of four books on North Africa and the Middle East, and is a frequent contributor to English and Arabic newspapers and magazines. He has served as a consulting advisor to non-profit organizations, the U.S. government, and the private sector in the realms of Arab civil society engagement, strategic communications, and counterterrorism.   Ahed Al Hendi is a Syrian affairs analyst. He is a former political prisoner in Syria, and was arrested for establishing a secular anti-regime student organization.    Exclusive footage and survivor testimony from inside the Sednaya prison, courtesy of the CPC and The Free Press:  https://www.thefp.com/p/watch-assads-human-slaughterhouse-sednaya-prison

Over the past few months, and especially in recent days, we have seen Iran’s decades-old proxy system and strategy collapsing.    What are Iran’s options?    To help us understand how Iran is dealing with this crisis, our guest is Raz Zimmt, one of Israel’s top experts on Iran.   Raz Zimmt is a senior researcher at the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) and a research fellow at the Center for Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University. He is the author of the book "Iran From Within: State and Society in the Islamic Republic" published (in Hebrew) in 2022.    Recent published pieces by Raz Zimmt discussed in this episode:  https://www.inss.org.il/publication/syria-rebels/ https://www.inss.org.il/publication/iran-changes/

HOUSEKEEPING NOTE:    Please note that as of our Thursday episode this week, we will be updating Call Me Back’s cover art. This will not be a dramatic change, but as to not miss out on any new episodes due to this change, please keep an eye out.    TODAY’S EPISODE:   As we witness Iran’s proxy system unravelling, there may be an opportunity for a new hostage deal and temporary ceasefire in Gaza.    Over the past few months, Israel has seen a number of successes, from the deaths of key Hamas and Hezbollah figures, to the destruction of Iran’s air defenses, a ceasefire agreement with Hezbollah, and finally the fall of the Assad regime, which has collapsed Iran’s proxy strategy.    With Hamas in its weakest position yet, will they try to negotiate  a hostage deal?   Are there common threads between this new development, the fall of Assad, the ceasefire in Lebanon, and the incoming US administration? To discuss, Nadav Eyal returns to the podcast.    Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.   To visit our website where you can access transcripts for each episode, sign up for updates, and get in touch with us: https://arkmedia.org/

HOUSEKEEPING NOTE:    Please note that as of our Thursday episode this week, we will be updating Call Me Back’s cover art. This will not be a dramatic change, but as to not miss out on any new episodes due to this change, please keep an eye out.    TODAY’S EPISODE:    A lot has unfolded in the Middle East over the past 48 hours, with the fall of the Assad regime. Nadav Eyal returns to the podcast today for an emergency episode to discuss the end of Assad’s rule in Syria, and the implications for Israel.    Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israel’s leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.   To visit our website where you can access transcripts for each episode, sign up for updates, and get in touch with us: https://arkmedia.org/

HOUSEKEEPING NOTE: The Jewish Food Society is a nonprofit whose mission is to preserve and celebrate Jewish culinary heritage in order to deepen connections to Jewish life. As part of their annual fundraising drive, the Jewish Food Society is holding an auction to support their work. To place a bid on any of the items up for auction (including a lunch with Dan Senor), visit: https://givebutter.com/c/JFSFallAuction/auction To learn more about the work of the Jewish Food Society, visit: https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org TODAY’S EPISODE: Over the past week, we have been monitoring developments in Syria, where there has been a significant escalation in its on-again, off-again, and now on-again civil war. Rebel forces, led by Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, launched a surprise offensive, swiftly capturing key areas in northwestern Syria, including 13 villages and the strategic towns of Urm Al-Sughra and Anjara. Two days later, the rebels had breached Aleppo, Syria's second-largest city, marking their most substantial advance in years.  In response, Syrian government forces, supported by Russian airstrikes and Iran-backed militias, initiated counterattacks to halt the insurgents' progress. The intensified conflict has resulted in significant casualties and displacement. What does this tell us about major power shifts taking place in the region? Is it part of larger tectonic shifts taking place globally? And what does this mean for Israel? To help us understand, our guest is Yonatan Adiri.  Yonatan Adiri is a leading Israeli digital healthcare entrepreneur, and was formerly the Chief Technology Advisor and a senior diplomatic advisor to the late Israeli president, Shimon Peres. He is the founder of Healthy.io, a digital healthcare startup, which he has been building for the last decade, and is now returning  to public service.  Earlier in his career, Yonatan worked as an officer in the IDF Strategic Command - including when President Obama issued his “red line” in the summer of 2012 against the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.  To learn more about Yonatan’s startup, Healthy.io: https://healthy.io/

HOUSEKEEPING NOTE:    The Jewish Food Society is a nonprofit whose mission is to preserve and celebrate Jewish culinary heritage in order to deepen connections to Jewish life. As part of their annual fundraising drive, the Jewish Food Society is holding an auction to support their work. To place a bid on any of the items up for auction (including a lunch with Dan Senor), visit: https://givebutter.com/c/JFSFallAuction/auction   To learn more about the work of the Jewish Food Society, visit: https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org   TODAY’S EPISODE:    Is Israel winning? This is a question we kept running into in our conversations in Israel with Israelis last week, especially as Israel reached a ceasefire agreement with Hezbollah.    To help us assess, Haviv Rettig Gur returns to the podcast.    Haviv Rettig Gur is the political analyst at The Times of Israel. He was a long time reporter for the Times of Israel. Haviv was also a combat medic in the IDF where he served in the reserves.

On October 8th, 2023, Hezbollah joined the war against Israel. Now, nearly fifteen months later, a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon may be imminent.  As of this evening in Israel, the Israeli security cabinet has officially approved a ceasefire deal with Lebanon. Under the proposal, Israeli forces would withdraw from Lebanon within 60 days, while Hezbollah forces would relocate farther north, effectively establishing a buffer zone. The Lebanese Army would be stationed in southern Lebanon, to ensure that Hezbollah remains north of the Litani River. To analyze the key terms of the agreement, and help us unpack its military, political, and social implications, our guest is David Horovitz.  David Horovitz is the founding editor of The Times of Israel. He was previously the editor-in-chief of The Jerusalem Post, and editor and publisher of The Jerusalem Report.  David on X: https://x.com/davidhorovitz The Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/