Knowing Faith

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss whether women should wear head coverings in church today. Questions Covered in This Episode: Should women wear headcoverings in the church? Where does the Bible talk about this? What is some context for Corinth? What are modern day examples of how this would play out? What are healthy contemporary applications?  1 Corinthians 11 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Elizabeth Woodson to have a conversation about her new book “Habits of Resistance” and how we can resist false gospels. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did you write this book? How did you decide what you were going to focus on as you wrote this book? What is a false gospel? Can you give some examples? Is this for individuals or for groups? Where are false stories frequently told to people? How do I resist false gospels? What part of what you wrote felt the most personal? Is there a habit people are resistant to? Why are we talking about habits so much? What is the key habit of Christian resistance to false stories? Helpful Definitions: “Narrative is our culture's currency; he who tells the best story wins.” Bobette Buster  False Gospel: An experience of a problem with a solution that does not contain Christ. Guest Bio: Elizabeth Woodson is a bible teacher, speaker, the founder of the Woodson Institute and the host of the podcasts: Starting Place with Elizabeth Woodson and Shalomies. Elizabeth is a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary with a Masters in Christian Education and the author of several books including: Embrace Your Life,  From Beginning To Forever, Live Free, and the recently released Habits of Resistance: 7 Ways You’re Being Formed by Culture and Gospel Practices to Help You Push Back.  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 3 “Habits of Resistance” by Elizabeth Woodson “Remember and Rehearse” by JT English “Atomic Habits” by James Clear “You Are What You Love” by James K.A. Smith Amazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss whether violence is immoral or amoral, whether God acts or endorses violence, and how we are supposed to act in light of these things. Questions Covered in This Episode: Does God endorse violence? In Joshua and judges it seems like God is endorsing violence; is that accurate? Where does the Bible talk about violence? Is violence immoral or amoral? Should the modern-day church then perceive itself to be a weapon of violence? Should we think in violent terms as it relates to those who oppose the Lord? How do you deal with wrong motivations? Helpful Definitions: Violence: Physical action against another person that seeks to either restrain or rebuff, and may or may not cause bodily harm. Hamas (חָמָס): Hebrew for violence Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Psalm 11:5, Genesis 6, James 4:6, Psalm 58, Psalm 3, Isaiah 53, Romans 13, Revelation “The Peaceable Kingdom: A Primer in Christian Ethics” by Stanley Hauerwas “Why I'm Not a Pacifist” by C.S. Lewis Deep Discipleship Curriculum Amazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how to think theologically and literately about church discipline. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is church discipline biblical? What does the bible say about discipline generally? What is the confusion around discipline? What does the bible say about church discipline? Is this how you think about church discipline? What happens before discipline? What’s the goal of church discipline? Does the tradition you are a part of play a part in church discipline? Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Hebrews 12:5, 1 Corinthians 5, Proverbs 13 Training the Church Ministry Cohort Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss if and when it’s okay to lie. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is it ever right to lie? What does it mean to bear false witness in the 10 Commandments? Is it always wrong to lie? What is a noble lie? What is a lie in kindness? What is a virtuous lie? What is an unvirtuous truth teller? Where do we see examples of people using “deception” in the Bible for the greater good? When would it be okay to use deception or hide the truth? Can I tell a white lie? As a parent, how should I handle my children lying? What is the heart of this question and conversation? Helpful Definitions: Categorical Imperative: You should never do something that you cannot make a universal law in all time and all places. Noble Lie: There are times when it is more virtuous not to tell the truth. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 1, Joshua 2, Genesis 38, Genesis 3:15, Job Deep Discipleship Curriculum Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the 10 Commandments. Questions Covered in This Episode: Should the 10 Commandments be posted publicly?  What are the 10 Commandments? What role did the Ten Commandments play within Israel's life when they were received? What is their significance for us today? Must a Christian obey the 10 commandments?  In what way should they be considered significant for Christian discipleship? Should they be posted publicly? If so, why? If not, why?  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 20, Matthew 5-7, Romans 1 “Ten Words to Live By” by Jen Wilkin Amazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the 10 Commandments. Questions Covered in This Episode: Should the 10 Commandments be posted publicly?  What are the 10 Commandments? What role did the Ten Commandments play within Israel's life when they were received? What is their significance for us today? Must a Christian obey the 10 commandments?  In what way should they be considered significant for Christian discipleship? Should they be posted publicly? If so, why? If not, why?  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 20, Matthew 5-7, Romans 1 “Ten Words to Live By” by Jen Wilkin Amazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about how Christians should think about retirement. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is retirement a Christian concept?Is there a difference between calling and career?How do we encourage people to live out the Christian call in all seasons of life?What is a concern of retirement?What is one of the most meaningful things you can do?What were humans created to do?Is it okay to save money for retirement?How do plan for generosity as you age?What is your encouragement to people as they enter into old age?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Titus 2, Proverbs 20:29, EcclesiatesDeep Discipleship Curriculum“From Strength to Strength” by Arthur Brooks“Leisure: The Basis of Culture” by Josef Pieper“Don't Waste Your Life” by John Piper Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how Christians should think about the death penalty. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is the death penalty biblical?What is the Christian framework for being against the death penalty?Why do we have civil laws?Is the death penalty just? Is it a deterrent?How could you kill an image bearer by any means?How does the civil government wield the sword? How do we regulate the taking of human life for the punishment of a crime?What’s the difference between justice and mercy?Do we tend to overemphasize the therapeutic in this conversation?What is your view on this?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 9, Exodus 21, Romans 13:1-4Training the Church Ministry CohortC. S. Lewis and the Humanitarian Theory of Punishment“The Politics of Jesus” by John Howder YoderKnowing Faith Has Therapeutic Language Invaded The Church? Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Courtney Reissig to discuss how to trust the church again after hurt. Questions Covered in This Episode: What was your goal in writing this book?What is your book about?How have you seen the Gospel of John help people process not abandoning the faith after hurt?What encouragement can you offer to people who are unsure whether they can trust the church?Are there people in your ministry coming from church hurt?Where did you experience restoration from looking at Jesus in your own journey?Guest Bio: Courtney Reissig is a writer and bible teacher living in Little Rock, Arkansas. She is the proud mom of four sons, happy wife to Daniel, and author of The Accidental Feminist, Glory in the Ordinary, Teach Me to Feel and Someone to Believe In. Her writing has appeared in the Washington Post, The Gospel Coalition, and Christianity Today (among other publications). When she is not writing or wrangling kids, she enjoys running and a relaxing Friday night. Her family belongs to Immanuel Baptist Church. You can follow her on Twitter or Instagram (@courtneyreissig). Resources Mentioned in this Episode: John 20:3, Hebrews 13:8, John 15, Psalm 1, John 9, Ezekiel 34:2”Someone to Believe In” by Courtney Reissig Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how Christians should think about burial, aging, and death. Questions Covered in This Episode: How does our culture view death?Where is death in the Bible?When you think of burial in the Bible, what comes to mind?What is the norm in Jewish society and culture?How should this influence how Christians think about burial?Does the mode of burial matter?What method of burial do we want for ourselves?For fun: If we were pagans, what funeral would we have?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 50:25, Genesis 35:19-20, John 11“Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End” by Atul Gawande Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the State of Theology survey, why it is so concerning, and what we can do next. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the state of theology survey?What is an evangelical according to this survey?What is the Lifeway report?What is a common discipleship strategy used by churches?What is a roadblock to making disciples?What are some things that are concerning in the report?Why is it a problem that people don’t think the Holy Spirit is a person?How the difference between interpretation and orthodoxy?Why is this so concerning?What do we do?Do you have a definition of disciple?Why do scope and sequence matter?How does dissonance play a role in discipleship?Why do we believe so much in the Training the Church Ministry Cohort?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Corinthians 2, Genesis 3, Romans 5State of Theology ReportLifeway Pastors’ Views on Discipleship“Deep Discipleship” by JT EnglishDeep Discipleship CurriculumTraining the Church Ministry Cohort Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what predestination and election mean. Questions Covered in This Episode: Can you remember how you were introduced to these doctrines?What is reformed theology?What is predestination? What is election? Are they synonyms? Where do we find them in scripture?What have been faithful approaches to these doctrines?Who do you disagree with on this, but you respect the way they articulate their view?What is determinism?What is the point? Why should we care about this?Helpful Definitions: Predestination: God has ordained specific things to happen.Election: God administers His saving benefits and/or judgment.Pelagius: Man is not stained by sin; humanity is neutral before God.Augustine: Humans are dead in their sin and saved by grace.Arminianism: Humans are dead in their sin and allowed to choose saving grace.Determinism: God is so other than, there is no meaningful place for human agency. Compatibilism: God directs our desires, and humans act in accordance with our desires.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 9, Genesis 1-2, Genesis 12, Ephesians 1, Romans 5-6, Proverbs 16:9, Romans 8, John 6, Matthew 13, John 10Deep Discipleship ProgramLigonier MinistriesRenewing Your MindActs 29T4G“Let the Nations Be Glad!” by John PiperBFM 2000 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about what happens to animals (and Jen’s pugs) when they die. Questions Covered in This Episode: What happens to animals when they die?How are humans and animals different?How does any creaturely thing make it into heaven?Are animals in need of redemption?Does the fall impact animals?Do animals have a soul?What is a soul? Do only humans have souls?How do we give the right level of importance to things that have breath?Will any animals be brought into the new heaven and the new earth?Helpful Definitions: Psychosomatic Unity: Humans are unions of body and soul.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Training the Church Ministry Cohort Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 16 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on January 15th! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 16. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we doing this season?What are some of the topics we will cover?How can I submit questions for you to cover?If you could put your cohost on the hotseat for any question, what would it be?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Apple Podcast ReviewTraining the Church Patreon Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners! Questions Covered in This Episode: Can you talk to the value or lack thereof of being a credential holder in any particular fellowship or denomination? Are there any secondary beliefs your denomination holds that you don’t agree with?Why is it good that denominations have core confessions?Do you think there will be salt in the new heavens and the new earth since there is no sea or no tears?Jen, what is your favorite classical music?Can you share thoughts on what your church requires of members? How does your church handle discipline?I have heard that Old Testament prophecies have an immediate fulfillment and another fulfillment in the future. Can you explain that?Is any of the content in the Deep Discipleship Program in conflict with Lutheran beliefs? (or other denominations)After the episode on therapeutic language, I wonder if you are going to talk about the fascination with “New Age” practices?What is going on with Women’s Bible Study? How do you evaluate curriculum?Did Jesus ever make mistakes during his earthly life?Does Jesus display the imcommunicable attributes?Is the incarnation itself an accommodation?Did God the Father love the Son at the moment of the crucifixion?Do you have resources for the “false stories” you talk about on the podcast?What would you tell someone about tithing who is in deep debt?Should we as Christians celebrate the feasts given to Israel?How is orthodoxy determined? How do we explain differences among believers?Where would you start a scope & sequence for college students and young adults?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship ProgramBFM 2000Westminster ConfessionNicene CreedThe Creed of ChalcedonApostles CreedHandel’s MessiahVivaldi The Four SeasonsKnowing Faith: Has Therapeutic Language Invaded the Church?Jen Wilkin's Instagram Highlight of bible StudyKnowing Faith: Does God have Emotions with Ronni Kurtz“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer the question of whether a Christian can lose their salvation. Questions Covered in This Episode: Do Christians often struggle with this question?What are the things that can make us doubt salvation?What kind of encouragement do we give people when reading and evaluating the warning passages in Hebrews?Can Christians grow indifferent to the seriousness of sin?Is there a corporate nature to this, or are these warnings supposed to be personal?What is the current thought process in the church?If a faithful Christian comes to you and asks if it is possible for them to lose their salvation, how do you respond?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship ProgramProverbs 31, Hebrews 2:1, Hebrews 6:4-8, Hebrews 10:26, John 8, Romans 5-8, Matthew 11:28-30, Matthew 16 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Bierig to answer the question, “What does Jesus have to do with Proverbs?” Questions Covered in This Episode: What does Jesus have to do with Proverbs?Is it too simplistic to tell a Christian to just go do the things Proverbs says?Guest Bio: Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Associate Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Spurgeon College at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Sam serves as lead pastor at Gashland Baptist Church. Sam completed his Ph.D. in biblical theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, where he wrote his dissertation on hermeneutics and the interpretation of the book of Proverbs. He is happily married to Mallory, and they have four children: Abby, Levi, Owen, and Piper. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Proverbs 7“Proverbs: Walking in the Way of Christ” by Samuel Bierig Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Matt Boswell to have a conversation about worship and hymns in the local church. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why should we value the congregational voice of the church?What’s the difference between a psalm? A hymn? And a spiritual song?Are hymns just old songs?What’s your favorite hymn? Why?What do you tell the person who says, “I don’t like the singing? Just give me some preaching.”How do you determine what songs you sing in your church?What’s your opinion on songs that emerge from churches or ministries where you’d disagree with the teaching of that ministry’s theology?Tell me about the Sing hymnal - why a new hymnal and why now?Guest Bio: Matt Boswell is a hymn-writer and pastor of The Trails Church in Celina, Texas. He also serves as Professor of Worship Ministries at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and leads Doxology & Theology, a ministry focused on corporate worship. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 1:15-20, Philippians 2:6-11, John 13:35Hark the Herald Angels SingBe Thou my Vision“The Sing! Hymnal” by Keith Getty and Kristyn Getty Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to discuss how Charles Spurgeon would answer specific questions if he were alive today. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are your thoughts on artificial intelligence?What are your thoughts on gambling?What are your thoughts on recreational marijuana?Guest Bio: Geoff Chang serves as Associate Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is a graduate of The University of Texas at Austin (B.B.A.), The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (M.Div.), and Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (Ph.D.), where he wrote his dissertation on Charles H. Spurgeon’s ecclesiology.  He also serves the Book Review Editor for History & Historical Theology at Themelios, the academic journal for The Gospel Coalition. He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry. He is married to Stephanie, and they have three children. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Lectures to My Students” by C H Spurgeon“Spurgeon the Pastor” by Geoffrey Chang Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

James Wood joins Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley to discuss the influence of Constantine on Christianity. Questions Covered in This Episode: Who was Constantine? What was his relationship to Christianity in the ancient world?Did he really convert?What are the Christians of this time thinking about Constantine?How does Monasticism replace martyrdom?Is there a protestant approach to living in the tension?What are the goods of Christendom?How does this history shape our understanding of the competing perspectives on church and state today?What are faithful Christian perspectives of church and state?How would you contrast pagan Christianity from the kind of public Christian witness you advocate for?Explain the subordination of the secular.Guest Bio: James Wood is Associate Professor of Religion and Theology at Redeemer University, a teaching elder in the PCA, a cohost of Mere Fidelity Podcast and the Civitas Podcast, and has written and writes for a number of publications, including Plough, Comment, First Things, World, and Theopolis, among others. He holds a PhD in Theology from the University of Toronto, a Th.M. from Princeton Theological Seminary, an M.Div. from Reformed Theological Seminary. He is married to Clare, and they have five daughters. Helpful Definitions: Gelasian Dyarchy: The "two swords" doctrine.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 13, 1 Peter 2, Revelation 13“Defending Constantine” by Peter Leithart“Christ & Culture Revisited” by D.A. Carson“The Desire of the Nations” by Oliver O'Donovan“Institutes of the Christian Religion” by John Calvin“The Politics of Pagan Christianity” by James Wood Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question, “How important is the local church and the Christian community to the journey of becoming more like Christ?” Questions Covered in This Episode: How important is the local church and the Christian community to the journey of becoming more like Christ?Helpful Definitions: Spiritual Disciplines: Practices found in the Bible by which we experience God and grow in Christlikeness.Fellowship: Koinónia (κοινωνία)Guest Bio: Don Whitney is the Professor of Biblical Spirituality and the John H. Powell Professor of Pastoral Ministry at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He holds a M.Div., Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary; a D.Min., Trinity Evangelical Divinity School; and a Ph.D. in Theology from the University of the Free State, South Africa. He has authored several books, including but not limited to: Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and Praying the Bible. Dr. Whitney also serves as the founder and president of The Center for Biblical Spirituality. Don lives with his wife Caffy in Kansas City, Missouri. The Whitneys have a married daughter, Laurelen, and five grandchildren. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Luke 4“Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life” by Donald S Whitney Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Macy English to play Knowing Faith Theological Trivia. Grab a pen and paper to play along! Questions Covered in This Episode: The Story of the Bible:Name the four gospels.In what waters did Naaman wash in to be healed of leprosy?Who in the Old Testament prefigures Christ as both priest and king?True or False: King Saul was from the tribe of Judah.Which prophet's scroll records the story of the valley of dry bones?Spiritual Belief:What does the word “Trinity” describe?The Nicene Creed says the Son is “begotten, not made.” What heresy does that refute?Which ecumenical council affirmed Mary as Theotokos or the “God-bearer”?Which heresy claimed Jesus only appeared to have a human body?What Latin term captures the Reformation truth that faith alone justifies, but the faith that justifies is never alone?Spiritual Formation:What word means “to become more like Christ”?According to John Owen, sanctification involves the mortification of ___ and vivification of ___.True or False: The Greek word for “fruit” of the Spirit in Galatians 5 is plural.Who first popularized the phrase “means of grace” to describe habits that grow believers?Which Reformation theologian taught that true knowledge of God leads to knowledge of self?Bonus Round:Who was the left-handed judge who killed the Moabite king Eglon with his sword?Guest Bio: Macy English is the Owner & Principal Consultant of English Media, where she helps businesses with all things sales & marketing. She is a lover of people, culture, marketing, and health, and she strives for all that matters in life. Macy and her husband, JT, live in Arvada, CO, with their two kids and love to travel. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Bumpers to answer the question, “Why does theological formation happen best in the local church? Questions Covered in This Episode: Why does theological formation happen best in the church?What does this mean at Midwestern Seminary?Helpful Definitions: Theology: The study of God and all other things in relation to God. John WebsterGuest Bio: Jared Bumpers is the Associate Professor of Preaching and Evangelism and FTC Cohorts Faculty Coordinator at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Jared holds a B.S. in pastoral ministry from Baptist Bible College; an M.Div. from Luther Rice Seminary; a Th.M. in biblical studies from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary; and a Ph.D. in Christian preaching from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. His doctoral research focused on the hermeneutic and homiletic of John Albert Broadus. Jared is married to Kimberly, and they have four children: McCartnie, Rush, Maverick, and Jett. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 2 Corinthians 3:18For the Church Cohorts Midwestern Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss if Christians should gamble. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is this timely?Why does this matter?Do Christians know how to answer this question?What is categorized as gambling?What was the most surprising thing you learned when you wrote your article?Does the level of risk matter?Does the purpose or heart behind gambling matter?Can you have poker night?Can you buy a lottery ticket?What do I do if I’m struggling with gambling?How can parents teach children about the nature of gambling and/or money?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Sports Betting Has Become Too Prevalent for Christians to Ignore” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Peter Gurr to answer the question, “Why trust the New Testament?” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why trust the New Testament?When you are talking about the resurrection, is it a spiritual reality or a historical event?Guest Bio: Dr. Peter Gurry is Associate Professor of New Testament at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the author of several books, including but not limited to Scribes and Scriptures. He is the Co-director of the Text & Canon Institute. He holds a PhD from the University of Cambridge. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Acts“Scribes and Scripture” by John D Meade and Peter J Gurry Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the question, Is God still speaking audibly today? Questions Covered in This Episode: Is God still speaking audibly today?In the Bible, has God spoken through dreams, visions, prophecies, and audibly?What are some strange ways God speaks in the Bible?Is there a time in scripture we are told this is over?What additional revelation do we need if he has spoken to us through His son?What does God still give?How would you define prophetic ministry in the context of the church?What if someone is wrong?Why does Paul give non-apostles instructions on how to use the gift of prophecy if it's not a gift that's continued in the life of the church?How is prophecy different from preaching and teaching?If someone never receives a prophetic word, does that mean they have an impoverished experience of the Christian life?Where does the Bible make the distinction between prophetic office and prophetic ministry?What would you call someone who claims to speak on behalf of God?Where does this go sideways in the life of the church?Helpful Definitions: Prophetic Ministry: The reception of a God granted insight that has the magnification of Christ as its goal, the edification or exhortation of the church as a byproduct. Prophecy: God ordained commentary on scripture.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Numbers 22:21-39, Daniel 5, Matthew 3:16-17, Hebrews 1:1-4, 1 Corinthians 14:37, Deuteronomy 13:1-3, Deuteronomy 18:20Deep Discipleship ProgramKnowing Faith: Demons and Angels Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Dr. Travis Montgomery to discuss how technology impacts spiritual formation. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is one blessing and one burden that technology provides on the journey of spiritual formation?Guest Bio: Dr. Travis Montgomery is the Assistant Professor of Christian Studies and Assistant Dean of Global Campus at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He holds a B.A from Ozark Christian College and an M.Div. and Ph.D. from Midwestern. He is husband to Lauren, and a dad of three boys—twins Ebenezer (Ben) and Hezekiah (Ki), and Boaz (Bo).  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Colossians 3, Genesis 1Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about what the Bible says about angels, demons, and Satan. Questions Covered in This Episode: Did you have any interest in this stuff as a non-Christian?Does talking about demons and angels make people a little uncomfortable?If someone brings this up in conversation with you, how do you react?What are some clear things that we can agree on around demons and angels?What is the primary work of demons and angels?Are demons and angels active in the world? In what ways?Can demons read our minds?Can you open portals in your life to demonic activity?What is the foothold Ephesians 4 is talking about?How do I distinguish between my own desires and something demonic?How do we account for deliverance-based prayer?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Luke 2:8-14, Genesis 3, Job, John 8, Luke 13:10-17, Ephesians 4:27Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Bobby Jamieson to discuss his book “Everything Is Never Enough,” the book of Ecclesiastes, and what happiness is. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is it wrong to want to be happy?Why did this become your thing?What are the common misconceptions about what happiness is?Do you feel like the answer lies in the book of Ecclesiastes or in the rest of the Bible?What does fear of the Lord mean?When you talk about happiness, what do you have to clear off the ground?Is it possible to be “too God centered” where you miss out on the goodness of creation?How have you learned to talk about this to your congregation?How do you respond to people who say, “don’t find your identity in being a mom, find your identity in Christ?”If we enjoy something, is it an idol?Helpful Definitions: Fear of the Lord: Reverence awe of His power, humble trembling at His generosity, confessing before His holiness, and marveling at His grace.Guest Bio: Bobby Jamieson serves as an associate pastor of Trinity Baptist Church in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. He has an MDiv and ThM from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and a PhD in New Testament from the University of Cambridge, where he also taught Greek. Bobby and his wife, Kristin, have four children, Rose, Lucy, William, and Margaret. Bobby is the author of several books, including but not limited to; Sound Doctrine: How a Church Grows in the Love and Holiness of God, Going Public: Why Baptism Is Required for Church Membership, Jesus' Death and Heavenly Offering in Hebrews, The Paradox of Sonship: Christology in The Epistle to the Hebrews, and The Path to Being a Pastor: A Guide for the Aspiring. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Ecclesiastes, Proverbs 31:30, Psalm 16:6“Everything Is Never Enough” by R B Jamieson“Remaking the World” by Andrew WilsonKnowing Faith Has Therapeutic Language Invaded The Church?“Desiring God” by John Piper Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Gavin Ortlund to have a conversation about why Christians have disagreements and how we can engage in disagreements biblically. Questions Covered in This Episode: If all Christians believe the bible, why do they disagree so often?What’s the distinction between significant disagreement that separates and real disagreement that doesn’t require separation?How would we disagree well about using justification by faith as an identifying mark as a fundamental part of someone claiming to be a Christian?What are the main contributing factors to disagreements among Christians currently?How do you respond to people telling others with doctrinal disagreements in Protestantism to come back to the one true church?What is the priesthood of all believers?How do you coach leaders to handle disagreement in a group setting?What are your top three rules of engagement for disgareemnet?Guest Bio: Dr. Gavin Ortlund is a pastor, author, speaker, and apologist for the Christian faith. He is a husband to Esther, and a father to Isaiah, Naomi, Elijah, Miriam, and Abigail. He serves as President of Truth Unites, Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville, and Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary. Gavin has a Ph.D. from Fuller Theological Seminary in historical theology, and an M.Div from Covenant Theological Seminary. He is the author of a number of books including: Why God Makes Sense in a World that Doesn’t, What it Means to be Protestant, and the Art of Disagreeing. Gavin is a fellow of The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics, a fellow of The Center for Baptist Renewal, a fellow of Credo, a member of St. Basil Fellowship of The Center for Pastor Theologians, and a Visiting Scholar at Reasons to Believe.  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: James 2:24, Ephesians 2:10“The Art of Disagreeing” by Gavin Ortlund“Finding the Right Hills to Die On” by Gavin Ortlund“The Reformed Pastor” by Richard Baxter“Biblical Authority after Babel” by Kevin J Vanhoozer“Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind” by Tom HollandTruth Unites Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation around the question, “Why doesn’t God always heal the sick?” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why do people get sick? Where does sickness come from?What's the difference between personal sin and the presence of sin?Throughout the Bible, we see God perform miraculous healings. What are some examples that come to mind?Does my faith play a role in someone's healing?Is “not my will but yours” a prayer of faith?What is God’s best for us?What is the purpose of Jesus’s miracles?Why doesn’t God always heal the sick?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 50:20, Luke 13, John 9, Mark 5:21-43, John 11:38-44, Mark 2:1-12, John 5:1-18, James 5:13-16, Daniel 3, Matthew 26:39, Revelation 21-22, 2 Timothy 4:20, John 16:33, Genesis 3 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation around giving and generosity in the life of a believer. Questions Covered in This Episode: What does the word “tithe” mean?Where do we get the principle of the “tithe?”What's the difference between tithes and offerings?How is Israel functioning in the Old Testament?Is tithing biblical? Must Christians tithe?Should they give 10% of their earnings/income?How do you pastor people regarding giving and generosity?What are some of the wrong messages that can be taught around giving?Should Christians do more than tithe?Helpful Definitions: Tithe: Maintaining the bottom line of Israel's religious life, supporting the ongoing ministry functions. Offering: Responsive gifts given out of thanksgiving or celebration.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Leviticus 27:30, Numbers 18:21Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Ian Harber to have a conversation about deconstruction in the Christian faith.  Questions Covered in This Episode: Is deconstruction good?What is deconstruction?What are some common examples?What is your personal story of deconstruction?How is your faith different from what it was before your deconstruction journey?Is there such a thing as healthy and unhealthy doubt?How can we be a good companion to those going through a season of deconstruction?It seems like many instances of deconstruction are tied in some way to the desire to dismiss or circumvent the clear biblical teaching on sexuality and/or gender - am I off on this? If not, how does that shape our engagement with those deconstructing?What would you want to tell someone who is going through a deconstruction journey?Helpful Definitions: Deconstruction: Is a crisis of faith that leads to the questioning of core doctrines and the untangling of cultural ideologies that settles in a faith different from before.Guest Bio: Ian Harber is the Director for Communications and Marketing at Mere Orthodoxy, author of Walking Through Deconstruction, and a graduate of the Deep Discipleship Program. With a B.A. in Communication Theory from Dallas Baptist University, he has done marketing for nonprofits, churches, and small businesses for 10 years. Ian lives in Denton, TX with his wife Katie, and two sons, Ezra and Alastair. Follow him on Twitter, Instagram, and Threads. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Corinthians 3:12-15“Walking Through Deconstruction” with Ian HarberDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Ronni Kurtz to discuss the impassability of God. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why this is problematic to say (if it is): God has an emotional life.Does God feel?Is impassability part of historic Christian doctrine?What is true and beautiful about this?Are passions and emotions the same thing?When we say God is simple, what are we saying?What if you don’t feel God’s love?What do we lose if we lose impassability?As an image bearer, am I supposed to try to be impassable?Why is the doctrine of accommodation important to this conversation?Helpful Definitions: Impassable: God is not subject to emotions.Passion: Undergoing something.Diviven Simplicity: God is not composed of parts.Anthropomorphism: God describing himself in creaturely-like parts.Anthropopathism: God reveals himself in human emotive language.Anthropocronism: God describes himself in human-like time.Guest Bio: Ronni Kurtz serves as Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Dr. Kurtz holds a PhD in Systematic Theology, a ThM in Pedagogy, and an MDiv from Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He also has a BA in Biblical Studies from Southwest Baptist University. Dr. Kurtz is the author of numerous books and academic articles, including but not limited to Fruitful Theology, Proclaiming the Triune God, and Light Unapproachable.  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Peter 2, Romans 6:12, 2 Timothy 2:22, 1 John 4:7, Acts 14, Hebrews 4-5, Philippians 2, Exodus 33, 1 Samuel 15, Exodus 20, Job 4, 1 Samuel 15, Deuteronomy 32, Genesis 6Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what preaching is and its purpose in the church. Questions Covered in This Episode: Does preaching still matter?What is preaching?How is preaching different from other forms of teaching in the church?Should preaching be a part of corporate worship? What are the core concerns/questions/considerations around this?Why is preaching not more formative in the lives of church people?Does the Spirit have an ordained means by which God is going to normatively move through his church, or are any means the same?What is the purpose of liturgy? What's the difference between a regulative and a normative principle of worship?How does the regulative principle affect the content of preaching?Is the sermon the “high point” of a service?What is the proper length of a sermon?How much of a service should be devoted to singing?What would you characterize as bad or ineffective preaching?Is preaching a spiritual gift?Is it possible to overemphasize the role of preaching?What is the role of teaching?Helpful Definitions:  Preaching: Declaring the mighty acts of God, who He is, and what we are to do in response to those things from God's word in the gathering of God's people in corporate worship.Regulative: The Bible regulates all that one can do in the corporate worship of a body. If it's not clearly seen in scripture or prohibited, then it can or can’t be done.The Bible presents a clear pattern of worship, including preaching, baptism, the Lord's supper, and singing, which should be the normative practices of the body of Christ.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the role of an apostle and the importance of understanding its meaning when using the term. Questions Covered in This Episode: Are there modern-day apostles?Why are we asking this question right now?Are bishop and apostle the same thing?What is an apostle?What about Ephesians 4? Is that indicating that “apostle” is an office?Do the apostles ever provide instructions or character qualifications for what an officer who is an apostle would need to be?What's the risk of calling someone an apostle?What motivates someone who aspires to the title of apostle? What motivates people who gravitate toward having leaders with the title of apostle?How does this affect the church?Why is this language so common in church planter circles? What is an “apostolic gift”?Where does authority lie?Helpful Definitions:  Apostle: One who is sent by Christ to testify about the resurrection in the first century.Essential Authority: Belongs to the testimony of God in his Word, in Christ, and in the created order by the power of the Holy Spirit.Entrusted Authority: Is derivative, ordained, or granted. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Ephesians 2:19, 1 Corinthians 9:1-2, Ephesians 4:11-12, 1 Corinthians 14:37-38, Acts 19, Ephesians 6Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what makes someone a real Christian. Questions Covered in This Episode: What makes a real Christian?Is everyone who claims to be a Christian a Christian?How does anyone get to define what Christianity is or is not?Why would we say a Jehovah's Witness or a Mormon is not a Christian?If Jesus is not God, does it change the nature of the atonement?How do you determine which denominations are within the family and which are not?Helpful Definitions:  Arianism: Believes that Jesus was the first and greatest creature created by God, but not God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: John 3, 1 Corinthians 5, 1-3 John, John 1The Apostles CreedNicene CreedThe Chalcedonian Creed Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about how therapeutic language has invaded the church. Questions Covered in This Episode: Has therapeutic language invaded the church?What are the root theological issues at play in therapeutic language and the church?What do we mean by therapy language?What is the history that got us here?How should the Christian enter into therapeutic practices?How does this show up in lament?How does this affect Bible reading?Where else has therapeutic language invaded the church?What is underemphasized in the church?Why does this need to be addressed?What is one step for someone who wants to engage faithfully with therapeutic language?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Matthew 22:37, Philippians 4:4-9“The Triumph of the Therapeutic” by Philip Rieff “The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self” By Carl Trueman “Daring Greatly’ by Brené BrownConfronting Christianity“Bad Therapy” by Abigail Shrier“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle WorleyDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 15 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on August 21st! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 15. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are some of our main disagreements?What is our goal?What are we talking about this season?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 9-11 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by their Patreon supporters! Questions Covered in This Episode: How do we decide what the original author meant, specifically when using the word “all” in Romans 3:23 and Romans 9-11?What are some of the rich implications practically and culturally for the doctrine of the Image of God?What are your personal rhythms for continuing to learn and grow?Is it essential to hold a definitive position on all second-tier theological issues, or can I faithfully choose an unresolved position?Any tips for successfully facilitating the Deep Discipleship curriculum?How do you choose who you work with in the world of creating resources?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 9-11, 11:26, 3:23, Romans 5:18Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Adam Griffin and Amy Gannett to discuss updates from the Training the Church podcast family. Questions Covered in This Episode: What have you learned in doing Tiny Theologians?What was the vision for the Tiny Theologians podcast?What was the vision for The Family Discipleship podcast?What is the future for these podcasts?If someone wanted to follow your podcast, how can they do that?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Tiny Theologians Podcast, InstagramThe Family Discipleship Podcast, Website, InstagramConfronting ChristianityStarting Place with Elizabeth Woodson Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Elizabeth Woodson to discuss her new study on the book of Galatians. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why Galatians?What did you learn as you wrote this study?Who were your favorite commentary sources?What was the most challenging part to write about?How is this study designed to work and be used?What are the false stories in Galatians that the gospel brings freedom from?What hit you the hardest?Guest Bio: Elizabeth Woodson is the founder of The Woodson Institute, where she helps believers learn and grow in their Christian faith. She is a co-host on the Culture Matters podcast and the host of the Starting Place with Elizabeth Woodson podcast. Elizabeth is a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary with a Masters in Christian Education and the author of several books, including Embrace Your Life, From Beginning to Forever, and Live Free: A Study of Galatians. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Live Free: A Study of Galatians” by Elizabeth Woodson“Galatians: The Story of God Bible Commentary” Nijay K. Gupta “Galatians For You” by Tim Keller“Exalting Jesus in Galatians: Christ-Centered Exposition Commentary” by David Platt“From Beginning to Forever: A Study of the Grand Narrative of Scripture” by Elizabeth Woodson Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

JT English and Kyle Worley discuss their new books, “ Remember and Rehearse” and “Formed for Fellowship,” and how they are valuable tools for discipleship. Questions Covered in This Episode: What were you thinking when you were trying to build a theological education department in the church?What is “You are a Theologian”?What’s different about Remember and Rehearse?What did you learn about the story of the Bible while you wrote this book?What’s different about Formed for Fellowship?What did you learn while writing this book?What's the value of books for Christian discipleship?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship Program“Remember and Rehearse” by JT EnglishRememberandRehearse.com“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle WorleyFormedforFellowship.com“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English“Drama of Scripture” by Craig Bartholomew and Michael Goheen “Delighting in the Trinity” by Michael Reeves “Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life” by Donald S Whitney Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Hunter Beless and Courtney Doctor to discuss their new Bible study on the book of Titus. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did you decide to do a study on Titus?Why did you do this project together?How is this study designed to work?What is Titus about?What is something you learned while writing this study?Did you feel any hesitation when talking about morality?What was the trickiest passage or verse to work through?Guest Bio: Hunter Beless is the founder of Journeywomen Ministries, the author of "Read It, See It, Say It, Sing It!" and "Amy Carmichael: The Brown-Eyed Girl Who Learned to Pray," and she loves doing ministry in her local church context. Hunter and her husband, Brooks, have four amazing kiddos who memorize Scripture way faster than their mama! When they’re not reading, seeing, saying, or singing the Bible, you can find the Beless family camping, riding bikes, or snuggling up with a good book. You can find her at www.hunterbeless.com and on the Journeywomen Podcast. Courtney Doctor is an author, Bible teacher, frequent conference and retreat speaker, and periodic blogger. She received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary in 2013 and is a Bible teacher and author of several books and Bible studies including From Garden to Glory: How Understanding God's Story Changes Yours; Steadfast: A Devotional Bible Study on the Book of James; and In View of God's Mercies: The Gift of the Gospel in Romans. She currently serves as the Director of Women's Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. God has blessed Courtney and her husband, Craig, with four wonderful children, three great kids-in-law, five sweet grandchildren — and their much-loved, goofy dog, Walter. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Titus: Displaying the Gospel of Grace” by Courtney Doctor and Hunter Beless Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Thomas West and Trevin Wax to discuss their new book, The Gospel Way Catechism. Questions Covered in This Episode: What’s all this talk about a catechism? Isn’t the bible enough?What is the relationship between a catechism and bible study?What is the response from people when you told them you were working on a catechism?Why another catechism?Are catechisms supposed to be contextual?Can you share an example from your catechism?What role or value does catechism have in the church?Guest Bio: Trevin Wax is vice president of research and resource development at the North American Mission Board and a visiting professor at Cedarville University. He is a founding editor of The Gospel Project, has served as publisher for the Christian Standard Bible, and is currently a fellow for The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics. He is the author of multiple books, including The Thrill of Orthodoxy, The Multi-Directional Leader, Rethink Your Self, This Is Our Time, and Gospel Centered Teaching. His podcast is Reconstructing Faith. He and his wife, Corina, have three children. You can follow him on Twitter or Facebook, or receive his columns via email. Thomas West (PhD, Southeastern Seminary) is the senior pastor of Nashville First Baptist Church and an adjunct professor of theology at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the coauthor of The Gospel Way Catechism (with Trevin Wax). He and his wife, Elizabeth, have two children. You can follow him on X or Instagram. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “The Gospel Way Catechism” by Trevin Wax and Thomas WestThe Westminster Larger CatechismThe New City Catechism Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

JT English and Kyle Worley discuss how the Training the Church Ministry Cohort can help you shape and form deep disciples in your ministry. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did we choose to name this “Training the Church”?When did we launch our first cohort?What kind of people participate in the cohort?What is something people will learn from the cohort?What format is the cohort offered in (in-person, Zoom, online class)?What's the difference between the Training the Church Ministry Cohort and the Deep Discipleship Program?What is the goal of this cohort?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Training the Church Ministry CohortDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Jason Allen and Patrick Schreiner live from the Gospel Coalition Conference.  Questions Covered in This Episode: How has the deep discipleship program been a part of how you do women's ministry?Is the church meant to be for or against the world?Am I supposed to be going out into the world thinking I am ready for battle or ready for love?Is it a Godly expression of love to oppose that which is evil?In Jesus’ ministry, is there a pattern of “welcome and warning”?JT, can you share about leading and pastoring, walking faithfully for or against the world?How should we think about what evangelism and discipleship are in this world that is designed to be beautiful but is broken by sin?Is there a relationship between wordlieness and a lack of proclamation of sanctification?When you think about the preaching and teaching ministry of the word of God, how do you be faithful to correct what's out there in the world and in here (the church)?How would you form a theological response to Christian nationalism in your church?How do you convince busy parents that depth matters?Is there a reason the doctrine of hell is missing from “You Are a Theologian”?What doctrine have you studied individually that drew your heart closer to God?Guest Bio: Dr. Jason Allen is the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to his role as president, he also serves as a professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. He is the author of a number of books including; Turnaround: The Remarkable Story of an Institutional Transformation and the 10 Essential Principles and Practices That Made It Happen. He posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.” Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: John 3:16, John 15:18, Psalm 1, James 4:4, 1 John 2:15-17, 2 Timothy 4:10, Hebrews 4:12, Hebrews 5-6, John 1Deep Discipleship ProgramTGC25 On-Demand“You Are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English“Communion With God” by John Owens“Home With God” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by their Patreon supporters! Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is God referred to as three “persons”?I heard someone say that Adam would be in heaven. What are your thoughts on this?What are some great books to listen to?While studying Revelation, our group is leaving more fearful than encouraged. How do we read and understand this book correctly?How important is it to take a stance on the views of Revelation (millenium, tribulation)? Does the view you take change the way you should act today?What is the doctrine of incarnation? What are some resources to study this doctrine?Can you explain the eternal subordination of the son?How do we come to such vastly different theological undertandings with the same Scirpture?Helpful Definitions: Incarnation: The doctrine where the son of God assumes a human nature in his birth.Hypostatic Union: The human nature and divine nature of Christ being in union in one person.Eternal Subordination of the Son: The son of God, prior to assuming a human nature, for eternity past, submits His will to the Father.Tritheism: Three gods.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Hebrews 11, Genesis 3, John 1, John 13-17, Luke 22:42“The Thursday Murder Club” by Richard Osman“Remaking the World” by Andrew Wilson“Be Ready When the Luck Happens” by Ina Garten“The Bomber Mafia” by Malcolm Gladwell“On the Incarnation” by Saint Athanasius“Cur Deus Homo: Why the God-Man?” by Anselm of Canterbury“God the Son Incarnate” by Stephen J Wellum and John S FeinbergMatthew Barrett Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss why they created the Deep Discipleship program, what it is, and who it is for. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is our goal?How does someone become a theological contributor?Why is it important to do theology in community?How does dissonance play a role in learning?What does the Deep Discipleship Program look like for a participant?What is one of the challenges of hosting this program?Who is this program for?What is one of your favorite moments from leading this program?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship ProgramLifeway.com/KnowingFaith Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners! Questions Covered in This Episode: What 2-3 things that are essential when teaching others about the Trinity?How much time do you spend reading the Bible?What is your favorite Bible translation?How do you get people interested in theology?Did Jesus descend into hell when he died on the cross?What book of the Bible is often overlooked?Are there multiple legitimate ways to interpret scripture in the area of human ancestry? What are the fundamental elements any Biblical view needs to affirm? Does Romans 5:12 imply that non-human biological death didn't exist before the fall, or is it speaking primarily of human death and separation from God?Are the Nephilim in Job 1:6 fallen angels?Would you allow a non-Christian to be a Sunday school leader?What's the difference between a Presbyterian and a Baptist?Can you explain covenant theology?What are good resources to develop Bible literacy?How do we reconcile the inspiration of Scripture with 1 Corinthians 7:10?Did Jesus offer sacrifices in the temple?When do you know it's time to move on from your church?In Revelation, as the bowls of wrath are being poured out, what is going on with the dead?Is watching a show that depicts Jesus a violation of the Second Commandment?Helpful Definitions:  Trinitarianism: God eternally exists as one essence and three distinct persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each of whom is fully God, yet there is one God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Deuteronomy 6:4-9, Romans 5:12, Job 1:6, Genesis 6:4, 1 Corinthians 7:10Deep Discipleship ProgramKnowing Faith TrinityDoctrine of God EpisodesKnowing Faith: What Did Christ Do with Matthew Emerson Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley wrap up their conversation on the book of Revelation by looking at Chapters 21-22. Questions Covered in This Episode: What have we learned? Why should someone spend the time to study Revelation?What are the seven sevens?How does this connect to Genesis 1-2?What’s the importance of the presence of God?Why does the sea disappear in Revelation 21?How do we see the blend of restoration and judgment?What is this city, the New Jerusalem? Why the attention to its details and design?How does Revelation 22 put us back into the imagery of Eden?How does the book end?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 21-22, Habakkuk 2:14, Psalm 1, Exodus 3, John 8:12, Matthew 6:10In the Word with Jen WilkinStarting Place with Elizabeth WoodsonDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Tara-Leigh Cobble to discuss the importance of biblical and theological literacy. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is The Bible Recap podcast and why did you start it?Where do people start to get bogged down in Chronological Bible reading?What have we discovered when it comes to pushing Christians towards depth?What is the relationship between biblical and theological literacy?What are the most common ways that theological thinking gets compromised?How do you respond to someone who says that Christians don’t need more time in the Bible they need more time making an impact?Guest Bio: Tara-Leigh Cobble is the creator and host of “The Bible Recap” daily podcast, which guides listeners through a chronological 1-year bible reading plan. She created and leads D Groups International - which has grown into a network of over 300 weekly global bible studies. She also writes and hosts a daily radio show called “The God Shot” and regularly leads trips to Israel to study the Bible on-site. She is the author of the Bible Recap and the bible study He’s Where the Joy Is. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Bible Recap Podcast“He's Where the Joy Is” by Tara-Leigh CobbleDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the meaning, significance, and different views of Baptism and the Lord’s Supper. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why have baptism and the Lord’s Supper been so contentious historically?What is the best argument for believers' baptism?What is the best argument for infant baptism?What are the dangers of not fully understanding each of these positions?What about churches that acknowledge both positions of baptism?What is baptism?How does the Lord’s Supper connect to baptism in a way that is complimentary but distinct?What formative value does the Lord’s Supper have in the weekly gathering?What is happening at the Lord’s supper? What are the different views?Helpful Definitions:  Baptism: "baptizo" (βαπτίζω): to immerse, submerge, or plungeTransubstantiation (Catholicism): The elements convert into the physical body and blood of Christ.Consubstantiation (Lutheranism): The substances both of the body and blood of Christ and of the bread and the wine coexist in union with each other.Spiritual Presence (Reformed): Christ is spiritually present in the elements.Memorial (Anabaptist): The elements are purely symbolic.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Acts 2, Romans 6, Matthew 5:6, 1 Corinthians 11:17-34“Remember and Rehearse” by JT EnglishRememberandRehearse.com“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle WorleyFormedforFellowship.com“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT EnglishDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Ben Mandrell to discuss his new Bible Study, “Together: Community That Marked the Acts 2 Church” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why are you releasing this study and why now? Is this apathy that is showing up post-COVID, or was it building before the pandemic happened?When we look at Acts 2, what do we find as instructive for the life of the church today?How does the Acts 2 model help us understand deep discipleship?Is individualism fueling apathy?Is there a greater risk in togetherness because it is messy?Why is it worth it?How is unity an obstacle to gathering together?What compromises our ability to engage in life together in Christ?How do you hope the Lord uses this resource?Why do you love the local church?Guest Bio: Ben Mandrell leads Lifeway Christian Resources as president and CEO. Prior to joining Lifeway, he pastored churches in Colorado and Tennessee. A native of Tampico, Illinois, Mandrell graduated from Anderson (Indiana) University in 1998. He also holds a Master of Divinity degree from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, and a Doctor of Ministry degree from Union University in Jackson, Tennessee. He co-hosts, along with his wife, Lynley, The Glass House podcast— conversations that point the way forward to healthy emotions and relationships for ministry leaders and their families. Ben and Lynley have been married since 2001. They have four children: Ava, Max, Miles and Jack. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Acts 2, Ecclesiastes 7:10, Romans 16“Together” by Ben Mandrell Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Sam Parkison to discuss his book “To Gaze upon God: The Beatific Vision in Doctrine, Tradition, and Practice” and how it connects to Revelation 21-22. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the beatific vision? Why did you write a book on it?Why do many Christians have no awareness of the beatific vision? What’s the point of Revelation?Who do we see in the beatific vision?What is happening in Revelation 21:1-8? Why are people uncomfortable with the second half?What’s changed where we can see God’s face (Revelation 22)? Why is this good?Helpful Definitions:  The Beatific Vision: “The happy vision” of seeing God in heaven.Inseparable Operations: That which any person of the Godhead does, is rightly attributed to God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.Guesto Bio: Dr. Sam Parkison is an alumni from Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, he serves as the associate professor of theological studies at Gulf Theological Seminary in the United Arab Emirates. He is the author of several books, including Irresistible Beauty: Beholding Triune Glory in the Face of Jesus Christ. You can follow Samuel on X. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 21-22, 1 Corinthians 15, Isaiah 65:17, Isaiah 24-25, Exodus 33, Psalm 27:4, 1 Corinthians 13, 1 John 3:2“To Gaze upon God” by  Samuel G Parkison“Heaven Is a World of Love” by Jonathan Edwards“Grounded in Heaven” by Michael Allen“The City of God” by Augustine of Hippo“God's Grandeur” by Gerard Manley HopkinsDeep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the person and work of the Holy Spirit. Questions Covered in This Episode: Who is the Holy Spirit?What is the relationship between the Spirit and the Father and the Son?What are misconceptions about the person or the work of the Spirit?Why can people be tempted to be drawn into a sensational power of the Spirit?What is the central work of the Holy Spirit?What is a neglected work of the Spirit?What about the sign gifts?What is the role of the Spirit in our salvation?Is there a second baptism that is required to be filled with the Spirirt?What about the gift of tongues and if it is “delayed”?Can you get better at the gifts of the Spirit?Helpful Definitions:  Trinitarianism: God eternally exists as one essence and three distinct persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each of whom is fully God, yet there is one God.Filioque Clause: Latin for "and from the Son"The Father and Son send the Holy Spirit.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1-2 Samuel, Matthew 7:21-23, 1 Peter 10-12, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, 2 Peter 1:21, 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1, Galatians 5Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Tyler Sykora to answer the question, “How do we get more out of daily Bible reading?” Questions Covered in This Episode: How do we get more out of daily Bible reading?What if someone gets stalled out?Guest Bio: W. Tyler Sykora is the Chief of Staff in the Office of the President and Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also a pastor at Liberty Baptist Church in Liberty, Missouri. He holds a B.S. and M.S. in Exercise Science from Southern Arkansas University in Magnolia, AR., as well as a M.Div. in Biblical Languages, a Th.M. in Pedagogy, and a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies from Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: M’Cheyne Bible Reading PlanNavigators Bible Reading PlanESV Study BibleCSB Study BibleNIV Biblical Theology Study BibleReformation Study BibleESV Expository Commentary Series Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the book of Revelation by discussing the symbolism found in Chapters 18-20. Questions Covered in This Episode: What’s the point of Revelation? What’s the big idea?Why Babylon?Is there a discomfort around what the Bible says about judgment?What are the “woes” we find in Chapter 18?Who is the multitude in Revelation 19?Who is the bride in the marriage supper of the lamb?We find a rider on a white horse. Who is this?What is this millennium (Revelation 20)? How significant is it to land on a specific perspective to understand what is going on?What is the final judgment?How does someone know that their name is written in the Book of Life?What are the benefits of Godly living in terms of heavenly rewards?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 18-20, Revelation 1:4, Genesis 11, Psalm 1, Genesis 19, Ephesians 5, Proverbs 9, Matthew 22, Hebrews 1, Isaiah 62-63, John 3:16, Genesis 15, Ezekiel 39 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Sam Pirotta to answer the question, “Why go to seminary if I'm already in ministry?” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why go to seminary if I'm already in ministry?What is the benefit of doctrinal studies for evangelism?Why Midwestern?Guest Bio: Sam Pirotta is currently working on his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is an evangelist with Ambassadors for Christ International and is the host of the Preach and Persuade Podcast.   Resources Mentioned in this Episode: James 3:1, Hebrews 13:17 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the core doctrines of the Christian faith by having a conversation about union with Christ. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is union with Christ? Why does it matter?Why do we have an unbalanced understanding of this? Why do we think more about Christ in me?How does the story of the prodigal son show us union with Christ?What is the difference between Union with Christ and communion with God?How is the story of union with Christ the story of “home with God”?Where do we find union with Christ in the Bible?When we say that Christ is in us, are we talking about the Holy Spirit?What are some of the benefits of salvation?How does union with Christ help us understand our reception of these benefits?How does being in Christ lead us to sanctification?Helpful Definitions: Union with Christ: Being united to Christ by grace through faith. This means that now our identity is rooted in Christ, we are incorporated into a new people in Christ, and we are participating in God's world in God's ways in Christ.Abide: Verb form of Abode: HomeResources Mentioned in this Episode: Luke 15:11-32, John 15, John 14:23, Genesis 1-3, Jeremiah 31, Romans 8, Romans 5-6, Ephesians 1, Colossians 1:27, John 10, Hebrews 10:14, Philippians 1:6“Home with God” by Kyle Worley“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English“How Salvation Brings Freedom” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Dale Johnson to answer the question, “How do I help a hurting person?” Questions Covered in This Episode: How do I help a hurting person?What's the single greatest struggle you see well-intended Christians face when attempting to care for a hurting person?Guest Bio: T. Dale Johnson, Jr., is the Director of Counseling Programs and Professor of Biblical Counseling at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Johnson also serves as the Executive Director of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors. He is the host of ACBC’s “Truth in Love” podcast. He is the author of The Professionalization of Pastoral Care in America, The Church as a Culture of Care, and Free to Be the Church: Biblical Counseling and Legal Issues. He is husband to Summer, and they live together in Kansas City, Missouri, with their six children. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Ephesians 4:22-24, 2 Corinthians 1:3-5, 2 Corinthians 5:14, Hebrews 6:19 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the significance of the resurrection and ascension of Jesus.  Questions Covered in This Episode: Is the resurrection of Jesus surprising?Was the “resurrection” part of Jewish beliefs or hopes at the time of Jesus?Hadn’t they already seen a resurrection with Lazarus?Should we be troubled that the resurrection accounts we have in the gospels aren’t a perfect match?What does the resurrection accomplish?How and why is the ascension the “forgotten act of Christ”?Why does the resurrection get all the attention and the resurrection the ascension is often forgotten?How is this a coronation event in the life of Jesus?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Luke 24:1-12, Genesis 1-3, 1 Corinthians 15, John 11, Isaiah 25, Ephesians 1, Philippians 2:1-11Deep Discipleship Program“Reading the Gospels Wisely” by Jonathan Pennington Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Leslie Umstattd and Christy Allen to discuss how to care for women in the local church. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why are you passionate about caring for women in the church?What are two key practices for women to grow in their ability to care for women in their local church??Guest Bio: Leslie Umstattd serves as Associate Professor of Christian Education & Ministry to Women and Faculty Co-Coordinator, Ministry to Women Programs at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. She holds an Ed.D. from Midwestern Seminary, Masters of Marriage and Family Counseling and Religious Education from Southwestern Seminary, and a Bachelor of Science in Business Management from the University of Alabama.  Christy Allen serves as Assistant Professor of Ministry to Women, and Faculty Co-Coordinator, Ministry to Women Programs at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Professor Allen holds a ThM from Dallas Theological Seminary with a concentration in Bible Exposition and Christian Education, a Master’s in Christian Education from Jacksonville Baptist Theological Seminary, and a Bachelor of Music Education from Jacksonville University. She is currently working on a PhD in Applied Theology at MBTS. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Jeremy Treat to discuss the doctrine of atonement. Questions Covered in This Episode: When and how did we learn about the atonement?What is the event of the atonement? What does the word mean?How is the cross an enthronement ceremony?What do we gain when we view the atonement with this lens?Is there a predominant theme in the atonement?How do the atonement, resurrection, and ascension connect?How have theologians talked about atonement using humiliation and exaltation?How does that truth change the way we live?What can be the hardest part of the atonement to begin to understand?Helpful Definitions: Atonement: At onement; two things that have been torn apart are being brought back together to be one again.How sin has separated us from God and what God has accomplished to make us at one with Him again.Guest Bio: Jeremy Treat (PhD, Wheaton College) is Pastor for Preaching and Vision at Reality LA, a young and thriving church in the heart of Hollywood, California. He is also an adjunct professor of theology at Biola University and is the author of several books including but not limited to; Seek First: How the Kingdom of God Changes Everything and The Crucified King: Atonement and Kingdom in Biblical and Systematic Theology.  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Mark 1:14-15, Mark 15, Philippians 2, John 12, Romans 8:17, Matthew 5-7“The Crucified King” by Jeremy Treat“​​Dominion” by Tom Holland“The Atonement” by Jeremy Treat“The Crucifixion” by Fleming Rutledge Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Allen to answer the question, “Why is community crucial for ministry preparation?” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is community crucial for ministry preparation?Guest Bio: Dr. Jason Allen is the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to his role as president, he also serves as a professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. He is the author of a number of books including; Turnaround: The Remarkable Story of an Institutional Transformation and the 10 Essential Principles and Practices That Made It Happen. He posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.” Resources Mentioned in this Episode: For the Church Cohorts Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the book of Revelation to discuss chapters 15-17. Questions Covered in This Episode: We’ve been talking about cycles of 7 this season - what we are looking for here?What's the point of Revelation?What is this history showing us?What is the song of Moses supposed to remind us of?What about the sea?What is the new song?How else is this text pointing back to Exodus? (temple, bowls of wrath)What or where is Armageddon?Why is it important to not be naked?Seventh bowl brings cosmic cataclysmic judgment?Revelation 17 shifts focus to the Great Prostitute and the Beast - what is going on?Why does Babylon have such significance?How do the city of God and the city of man have an impact on the story of the Bible?How are we meant to be encouraged by this portion of Revelation?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 15-17, Revelation 14:3, Matthew 22:1-14, Romans 8, Leviticus 24:16, Genesis 11, Joel 3:12-16 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to discuss his new book “Lest We Drift” and answer the question, what happens if we depart from the one true gospel? Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did you write “Lest We Drift: Five Departure Dangers from the One True Gospel”?What are two of the five dangers?What is the solution?Guest Bio: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 2 Corinthians 3:18“Lest We Drift” by Jared C. WilsonThe Rise and Fall of Mars Hill by Christianity Today Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Kevin J. Vanhoozer to discuss his new book, “Mere Christian Hermeneutics.” Questions Covered in This Episode: Can you give our listeners a sense of your larger interest? What are you trying to accomplish in your body of work? What’s your goal as you write and teach?What is hermeneutics?What is the Bible? What is it meant to do?What is mere Christianity? What’s a mere Christian hermeneutic?What is the literal sense?Is a mere Christian hermeneutic composed of biblical insight, theological truth, and/or transformation application? Focused on one over the other? Something entirely different?How does a person, an individual bible reader/studier, look to cultivate this kind of approach? How do we read the Bible well?How would you distinguish historical mere Christian reading from Christian sub-cultural reading of the scriptures?How does the beatific vision of beholding God, shape the way we read and interpret scripture?Helpful Definitions: Hermeneutics: The principles and practices for understanding the Biblical text.Guest Bio: Dr. Kevin Vanhoozer is research professor of systematic theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and the author of many books, including but not limited to: Faith Speaking Understanding, Hearers and Doers: A Pastors Guide to Making Discipleship through Scripture and Doctrine, and Mere Christian Hermeneutics.  He is theological mentor to the Augustine Fellowship of the Center for Pastor Theologians and Senior Fellow of the C. S. Lewis Institute for Discipleship. He is married to Sylvie (author of The Art of Living in Season and The Art of Living in Advent), has two daughters and one son-in-law. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: John 5:45, 2 Corinthians 3:18“Drama of Doctrine” by Kevin J. Vanhoozer“Mere Christian Hermeneutics” by Kevin J. Vanhoozer“Remythologizing Theology” by Kevin J. Vanhoozer“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and J T English“Remember and Rehearse” by J.T. English“Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the book of Revelation by looking at chapters 13-14. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is Revelation?Who is the beast? What about the sea?How do we understand the dragon, the beast from the sea, and the beast from the earth?What is your personal experience with the mark of the beast?How are we supposed to understand the number of the beast?How do we see the battle of the seed of the women vs. seed of the serpent?Who is the lamb in Revelation 14?Who are the 144,000?What do the angels show up to do?What about Revelation 14:12?What other imagery and symbolism do we find?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 13-14, Deuteronomy 6:4-9, Genesis 3-4, DanielKnowing Faith Beauty and the Beast? (Revelation 12-13)Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Dean Inserra to answer the question, how have you seen seminary education benefit your local church? Questions Covered in This Episode: How have you seen seminary education benefit your local church?What does being “for the church” really mean for a seminary?Guest Bio: Dean Inserra is the founding and lead pastor of CITYCHURCH, where he leads the vision and preaching. Dean graduated from Liberty University and attended Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, KY. He holds a MA in Theological Studies from Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and is pursuing a D.Min from Southern Seminary. Dean is married to Krissie, and they have two sons, Tommy and Ty, and two daughters, Sally Ashlyn and Marci. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Patrick Schreiner to discuss what the gospel of the Kingdom is. Questions Covered in This Episode: When the New Testament says that Jesus was preaching the gospel of the kingdom, before his death, burial, resurrection, and ascension; what gospel is he preaching?How does “the Kingdom” help frame the story of the Bible?When you share the gospel with somebody, do you include kingdom language?How does Matthew 1:1 show us two sides of the gospel?Has the conversation around the message of the kingdom changed?Guest Bio: Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Corinthians 15, Romans 1, Matthew 4:23, Galatians 3:8, Matthew 1:1, Matthew 16, 1 & 2 SamuelDeep Discipleship Program“The Kingdom of God” by Patrick Schreiner, Dane Ortlund, and Miles V Van Pelt“A Theology of the Ordinary” by Julie Canlis Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the imagery and symbolic history found in Revelation 12. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the purpose of Revelation?Where are we in the book of Revelation?Who is the dragon? Who is the child? Who is the woman?Where do we find a contrast between a woman and a dragon in the story of the bible prior to Revelation?How is Revelation providing instruction on how a Christian can rightly think about what it means to be engaged in spiritual war?What about Ephesians 6, how does that relate?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 12, Genesis 37, Ezekiel 29, 32:2, Genesis 1-3, Jeremiah 51, Ephesians 6“Home With God” by Kyle Worley“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle WorleyJen Wilkin Instagram Post Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss a core doctrine of the Christian faith; Christology. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the common approach to Jesus in our cultural moment?Where should someone start if they want to dive deep into the question of who is Jesus?What about when Colossians 1 calls him the “firstborn?”What are the essentials of Christology?What are the implications of leaning into one of the natures of Jesus?In the creeds (Athanasian, Apostles, Nicene, Chalcedon) they focus on clarifying who, what, and how Christ is. Why this intense focus so early on?How does Christ perfectly fulfill the three offices of prophet, priest, and king?Helpful Definitions: Logos: The word.Σκηνόω: Skénoó: To dwell, to tabernacle, to pitch a tent.Arianism: The false view that Jesus, the Son of God, is the first created being. Πρωτότοκος: Prototokos: First-born, eldest.Communication of Attributes: We communicate from the two natures; the divine nature and the human nature to the one person Jesus Christ. Anything you can say about God you can say about Jesus, anything you can say about humanity, except sin, you can say about Jesus.Docetism: The false belief that Jesus’s humanity was a figment or presentation, not a true human nature.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: John 1, Genesis 1, Hebrews 1, Colossians 1, Philippians 2Deep Discipleship“Mere Christianity” by C.S. LewisJoe Rogan Experience #2252 - Wesley Huff“Remaking the World” by Andrew WilsonCreeds:AthanasianApostlesNiceneChalcedon Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what it means to be a disciple and launch a preview of their Deep Discipleship Program! Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the need of the hour in the church today in the global west?What is a disciple?Why should we spend our time learning?What is deep discipleship?Why is community important?What do disciples need?How do we pursue deep discipleship?What is the goal of deep discipleship?What is the Deep Discipleship Program?Helpful Definitions: Disciple: LearnerResources Mentioned in this Episode: Deep Discipleship Program Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back to explore the book of Revelation! Questions Covered in This Episode: Who wrote Revelation? Where? When?How does Rev. 1:4-8 lay down a thesis of sorts for the book?How do you encourage people to study the book of Revelation?What genre is the book of Revelation?What are helpful terms to define when studying this book?Are people comfortable with the seven letters?How are numbers being used, and is there a pattern?What should we be looking for as we approach Revelation?Helpful Definitions: Eschatology: The doctrine (study) of the end times.Apocalyptic: Unveiling; something is being shown that was hidden.Prophecy:Foretelling: Future-oriented.Forthtelling: Commentary on either the past or present.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation, Genesis, Exodus, Ezekiel, Jeremiah Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 14 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on January 23rd! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 14. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we going to cover this season?What are we excited to talk about in the book of Revelation?What doctrine do you love to talk about? Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer listener questions to wrap up season 13! Questions Covered in This Episode: How did you start writing for an audience?Who is the deep discipleship program built for? Should all leaders and volunteers at a church participate in this program?What is the “extra Calvinisticum”? Are you a dispensationalist? Why or why not?Did God reject his people? (Romans 11)How do you respond when people argue that focusing on studying the Bible and theology produces Pharisees?My church dissolved its women's ministry in 2020. Do you have any advice on how to start a women's bible study without disrespecting the church's leaders?What do you appreciate about each other?If not just in memorial, what do the sacraments do?What is the role of the warning passages in Hebrews?Could you sum up free will from a reformed perspective?How have you made the podcast work for so long?Helpful Definitions: Extra Calvinisticum: Teaches that in the Son’s incarnation the divine Logos is fully united to, but never fully contained within, the human nature. (Definition from TGC, Kevin DeYoung)Dispensationalism: One way to think through the structure of Scripture has a variety of modes. A history with a theology. Covenantal: One way to think through the structure of Scripture. A theology with a history.Premillennialism: Belief in some sort of 1,000-year rule and reign and in some way that Christians are taken up into God's presence prior to the millennium. Amillennialism: The millennium is figurative, we are currently living in the millennium period.Views of the Lord's Supper:Transubstantiation (Catholicism): Conversion of elements.Consubstantiation (Lutheranism): Divine and human elements coexist.Memorial (Anabaptist): Elements are symbolic.Spiritual Presence (Reformed): Christ is spiritually present.Libertarian Free Will: There is nothing outside of you that will constrain your ability to choose A or B. You are at liberty to do all that you would like to do whenever you’d like to do it.Theological Determinism: You and all that you do is going to be determined by God or some gods.Theological Compatibilism: You are able to act in accordance with your desires.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 9-11, Isaiah 40:28-31, Hebrews 6 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue the story of scripture by looking at the wisdom literature and the prophets.  Questions Covered in This Episode: What happens from the time Israel departs Sinai until the end of the Old Testament?What is wisdom literature? Why does it matter?Which book has been the most formative for you?How is wisdom situational?What is exile?What role do the prophets play in the story of the Bible?What confuses people when they read the prophets?How do we read in the prophets?Helpful Definitions: Wisdom Literature: Jobs, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon. These books help us to live well in the face of God in all life's circumstances.Exile: Being sent out of the presence of God. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Kings 8, Genesis 3“Three Philosophies of Life” by Peter Kreeft Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Duesing to answer the question, “What is the purpose of a confession of faith if we already have the Bible? Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the purpose of a confession of faith if we already have the Bible?What is a helpful way to read confessions of faith?In your view, what is the most significant Baptist confession?Guest Bio: Jason Duesing serves as the Provost, Senior Vice President for Academic Administration, and Professor of Historical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He came to MBTS after serving for more than a decade on the administrative leadership team and faculty at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. Duesing earned his Ph.D. in Historical Theology and Baptist Studies from Southwestern Seminary in 2008. He also holds a M.Div. from Southeastern Seminary and a B.A. in Speech Communications from Texas A&M University in College Station. Duesing is married to Kalee, and together they have four children. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley to discuss the Exodus event and how it’s impactful for understanding the rest of Scripture. Questions Covered in This Episode: What do we learn about God in the Exodus event?How is Exodus a birth and a decreation narrative?What do we learn about deliverance and redemption from Exodus?How does Exodus create a paradigm for understanding salvation throughout the Bible?Why does God want people to have the law?As a Christian, must I obey the Ten Commandments? What is my relationship to the Ten Commandments?What role does the law play in our spiritual formation?How does what happens at Sinai connect with the 4 Ps?Why is this event worth giving this much attention to?What core doctrines do we learn about in Exodus?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 3:14, Genesis 1-2Knowing Faith Exodus Episodes“Drama of Scripture”  by Craig Bartholomew and Michael W. Goheen“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the covenants in the Bible and why it's important to understand them. Questions Covered in This Episode: What happens in Genesis 1-11?What is a covenant?What are some covenants we find in the Bible?How do covenants form a structure for reading and interpreting the Bible’s story?What is involved and entailed in the covenant with Abraham?What are the core promises of God’s covenant with Abraham?How does the covenant with Abraham shape the rest of the story?In the covenant with Moses, what is entailed or unveiled?Why do people find that the story of the bible opens up for them as they come to understand the significance and structure of covenants?Helpful Definitions: Covenant: Promise in which God obligates Himself to His people to act on their behalf.Pactum Salutis: Covenant in which God has said He is going to secure and save for Himself a people in Christ Jesus. (Exists before creation.)Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 1-11, 12, 15, Ephesians 1, Revelation 13, 2 Samuel 7, Jeremiah 31, Genesis 22TGC25“Words of Life” by Timothy Ward Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the themes, imagery, and encouragement found in Revelation 10-11. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the Old Testament imagery found in 10:1?Why is the scroll sweet to the taste, but bitter to the tummy?What are the themes we have seen so far?What is going on with the measuring of the temple? What does it signify?How does a reader understand what is going on in Revelation 11:1-3?What is going on with the “two witnesses”?What happens to these witnesses, and why is it significant?In verse 11, why is it 3 and a half days?What is the seventh trumpet?How does Revelation 10-11 encourage us as Christ’s people?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 10-11, Exodus 15:22-25, Ezekiel 3:1-7, 33, 1 Corinthians 3, Hebrews, 1 Peter, Zachari 4, 1 Kings 17:1, Matthew 17, Revelation 16:18, Joshua 6:20“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley recorded live at the For The Church Conference at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary with guests Jared Wilson and Patrick Schreiner to answer questions from the audience. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is the gospel political?Are doctrinal disagreements gospel disagreements?When sharing the gospel with people who don't have a religious background, what’s a good approach?How do you best share the gospel with cultural Christians?How can women remain faithful to scripture while serving in ministry in the church?How does the cultural climate influence churches in this conversation?How can I battle pride in ministry?Why should we become like Jesus today? Why is it good that we will ultimately be conformed to His glory?What dimension of the gospel do you find encouraging in this season of your life?Guest Bios: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books, including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: For The Church Conference“Political Gospel” by Patrick Schreiner“Women and Ministry” Redeemer Presbyterian Church by Tim and Kathy Keller Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley recorded live at the For The Church Conference at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary with guests Jared Wilson and Patrick Schreiner to discuss the gospel. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is the gospel story, doctrine, or practice?Is the whole story of the Bible the gospel?What is the difference between a doctrine and a story?Where do we start when we are reading gospel text?How do we feel about the language “practicing or performing” the gospel?Do we participate in the gospel?What is the nature of belief?Why are you still gospel-centered after all these years?What does it mean to be gospel-centered?Is it a bad thing to call people to moral rightness?What would a ministry look like if you were proclaiming “the gospel” but avoiding the law?Is the gospel political?Guest Bios: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books, including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Matthew 28, 1 Corinthians 15, 2 Corinthians 3:18, Titus 2, Matthew 28:16-20, Romans 2:4, Galatians 2:14, Romans 16, Revelation 21:4, Hebrews 10:14For The Church Conference“Ten Words to Live By” by Jen Wilkin“Political Gospel” by Patrick Schreiner Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the doctrine of sin; what is it and what it means for us. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is a good definition of sin?What is the story of sin? What is happening in Genesis 3?What is Exile, and why is it significant?What is a sin of commission? What is a sin of omission?What does it mean to be Augustinian in our view of sin?Is sin individual, or has sin impacted the world at large?Helpful Definitions: Hamartiology: Doctrine of SinSin: Rebellion against God.Fractures our relationship with God, one another, the created order, and ourselves.Total Depravity: We have a sinful nature because of Adam and Eve.Exile: Lost access as humanity to the beatific presence with God.The experience of pain and suffering that results from the knowledge that there is a home where one belongs, yet for the present one is unable to return there. Sin of commission: A sin that we commit, an action.Sin of omission: What we have left undone.Augustinian:Gen 1-2: Able to not sin.Gen 3: Not able to not sin.Post Christ's life: Able to not sin.Future: Not able to sin.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 5, Genesis 1-3, Romans 3“Remember and Rehearse: An Invitation to Participate in God's Story” by JT English“Formed for Fellowship: Becoming What You Behold” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what the imagery, symbols, and numbers found in Revelation 8-9 mean and how this passage can encourage us. Questions Covered in This Episode: Where are we in the book of Revelation when we come into the seven trumpets?How are numbers being used?What do we see and hear in this passage?Is there symmetry between the Fourth Trumpet and Fourth Seal?What should we not miss before we get to the fifth angel?What is significant about the eagle?Who is the “star that had fallen from heaven? (9:1)What is this judgment?How does this echo the story of Exodus?How does this passage encourage us?How am I supposed to interpret cataclysmic events in the world as it relates to these judgments?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 8-9, Exodus 7:14-11:10, Revelation 21-22, Jeremiah 23:15, Genesis 15, Luke 10:18“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Parkison to answer the questions, what is the beatific vision and why does it matter? Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the beatific vision and why does it matter?What makes heaven, heaven?What does it mean to behold God? What are we beholding?Helpful Definitions: Beatific Vision: The blessed hope of seeing God in heaven.Guest Bio: Samuel G. Parkison is associate professor of theological studies and director of the Abu Dhabi Extension Site at Gulf Theological Seminary in the United Arab Emirates. Dr. Parkison earned his M.Div., Th.M., and Ph.D. at Midwestern Seminary, is a regular contributor to For the Church, and is an editor of Credo Magazine. He also serves as a pastor of teaching and liturgy at Emmaus Church. He is the author of Revelation and Response: The Why, How of Leading Corporate Worship Through Song and Thinking Christianly: Bringing Sundry Thoughts Captive to Christ, and To Gaze upon God: The Beatific Vision in Doctrine, Tradition, and Practice. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 33:18, Psalm 27:4, 1 Corinthians 13, 1 John 3:2, Revelation 22:4, 2 Corinthians 4“To Gaze upon God: The Beatific Vision in Doctrine, Tradition, and Practice”  by Samuel Parkison Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Thomas Kidd to answer the question, what was the great awakening and what impact did it have on theological education? Questions Covered in This Episode: What was the great awakening and what impact did it have on theological education?Why were institutions needed at this time?Guest Bio: Thomas S. Kidd serves as Research Professor of Church History at Midwestern & the John and Sharon Yeats Endowed Chair of Baptist Studies.  Kidd has authored numerous books including but not limited to; Thomas Jefferson: A Biography of Spirit and Flesh, Who Is an Evangelical? The History of a Movement in Crisis, American History, vols. 1 and 2, and Christian History, Volume 2: From the Reformation to the Present. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about Revelation 6-8 and the symbolism and meaning of the text. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the Book of Revelation about?Where are we in the book of Revelation?What are the first four seals?Why are the creatures saying “come”?What is the fifth seal?Who are the earth dwellers?How do we get familiar enough with the Bible to begin to understand passages of scripture like this?What is happening in the sixth seal?What does 144,000 represent?What does Revelation 7:9-14 tell us?What is the seventh seal and what happens when is opened?How does this passage of scripture encourage you?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 6-8, Revelation 1:5-8, Matthew 24:4, Exodus 28:36-38, Genesis 12, 15, & 17 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Bierig to answer the question, what is something most people take for granted about the Bible that they would be surprised by? Questions Covered in This Episode: What is something most people take for granted about the Bible that they would be surprised by?Why would I be reading the Bible to pay attention to what the Bible is, not who God is?Why did you want to write a book about the Bible?Guest Bio: Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at Spurgeon College. He has written a devotional on Jonah, a book for pastors titled “No Neutral Words: The Pastor’s Investment and Stewardship of His Most Precious and Powerful Tool”, and a book for student pastors titled “Fulfill Your *Student Ministry: A Manifesto and Field Guide.” Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how we can understand the story of Scripture and why it’s important for us to know it. Questions Covered in This Episode: Can you share your journey from knowing Bible stories to knowing it was all one larger narrative?How do you communicate the story of the Bible?What is the framework of the story?What’s a one-word cheat code for the story of the Bible?Why is knowing the story of Scripture important?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Training the Church Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Patrick Schreiner to answer the question, is the gospel political? Questions Covered in This Episode: Is the Gospel political?How do we navigate applying principles in our political landscape that might be vastly unimaginable from the time of Jesus?Guest Bio: Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 13, Acts 5, Mark 12“Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World” by Patrick Schreiner Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the imagery and themes found in Revelation 4 and what encouragement we can find from this passage. Questions Covered in This Episode: Chapter four marks a shift in the book; doesn’t it?Where is throne imagery found throughout the Bible?What are the beasts and should they freak us out?What’s being proclaimed around the throne?What’s with the seven seals on the scroll?Who is the lamb and how does lamb imagery connect with the rest of the bible’s themes and imagery?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 4, Daniel 7, Isaiah 6, Matthew 24:36, Genesis 9:8, Revelation 1:4-8, Genesis 49, Isaiah 11, Genesis 15Knowing Faith Episode:Salvation: Cosmic Restoration“Revelation Song” by Kari Jobe“Is He Worthy?” by Andrew Peterson Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Ronni Kurtz to answer the question; what does incomprehensibility mean and is God incomprehensible? Questions Covered in This Episode: What does incomprehensibility mean?Is God incomprehensible?How would you encourage someone who is trying to comprehend who God is?Helpful Definitions: Immutable: God can’t change.Incomprehensibility: There is an intellectual limitation by virtue of our being creatures that will not allow us to wrap our mind fully around God as He is as a Creator.Comprehend: To surround.Divine Accommodation: God reveals himself to us in creaturely language.Guest Bio: Ronni Kurtz serves as an Assistant Professor of Theology at Cedarville University. He is the author of Fruitful Theology: How the Life of the Mind Leads to the Life of the Soul; Proclaiming the Triune God: The Doctrine of the Trinity in the Life of the Church; and Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology.   Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 33“Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology” by Ronni Kurtz Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the doctrines of creation and providence. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why do we treat the doctrines of creation and providence together?Barry Jones says that our creation story determines the trajectory of our culture. What does that mean? What are some questions the original audience was asking?What are the essentials of a Christian doctrine of creation?What’s a good definition of providence?Helpful Definitions: Transcendent: God is other (by an infinite extent).Imminent: God is near to his creation.Creator-Creature Distinction: God is the creator, everything else is creation.Theological Triage: Rightly prioritize the urgency and clarity with which we address the topics in a theological category.Providence: God’s continued governance and fatherly care over all things.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 1-2“You Are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English“Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to answer the question what is Charles Spurgeon's vision for a faithful church? Questions Covered in This Episode: What is Charles Spurgeon's vision for a faithful church?Why would it be worth articulating “the army of God” language today?What does “the church militant” and “the church triumphant” mean? Guest Bio: Geoff Chang serves as Assistant Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry; Christ Our All: Poems for the Christian Pilgrim; and The Army of God: Spurgeon’s Vision for the Church. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “The Army of God: Spurgeon’s Vision for the Church” by Geoffrey Chang Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what is happening with evangelical leaders and how we can respond faithfully. Questions Covered in This Episode: When a leader “falls”, does it discount everything God has done through their ministry?How does news like this strike you? What is your response to it?Why do we have low expectations for self-control?Would it be good in light of these things for church staff to get together and talk about these things?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Peter 5Knowing FaithEpisode #10 – Brothers & Sisters: Can we Do Theology Together?Episode #44 – A Generous ComplementarianismEpisode #88 – Men and Women in Genesis 2 with Hannah AndersonEpisode #93 – Men and Women In a Broken World with Katie McCoyEpisode #151 – A Generous Complementarianism: AgainEpisode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a Metaphor Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question; How does a church engage in the spiritual discipline together? Questions Covered in This Episode: How does a church engage in the spiritual discipline together?Do Christians think about fellowship the right way?Helpful Definitions: Spiritual Disciplines: practices found in the Bible by which we experience God and grow in Christlikeness.Koinonia (κοινωνία): Fellowship, talking about God and the things of God.Guest Bio: Don Whitney is the Professor of Biblical Spirituality and the John H. Powell Professor of Pastoral Ministry at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He served there in a similar position from 1995 to 2005, and then as Professor of Biblical Spiritual and Associate Dean at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, from 2005 to 2024. He has authored nine books, including Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and Praying the Bible, and is a popular conference speaker, especially on personal and congregational spirituality. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 Timothy 4:7, Acts 2:42 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the beginning of the book of Revelation and its meaning. Questions Covered in This Episode: What does the word “revelation” mean? Why is the language so strange if this book is meant to reveal?What is a symbolic universe?How important is what comes before the book of Revelation in understanding the book?Is there a grid we should be using or do we treat angelic language throughout Revelation on a case by case basis?What is the book of Revelation about?What sevens do we get before we get to the seven churches?Why these seven churches?What is the angle of these letters?Who are the Nicolaitans?What stands out from them?What can encouragement can we draw from this?Helpful Definitions: Revelation: To reveal, to disclose.Angel: Messenger.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 1 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley dive into the doctrine of Revelation to discuss how we can know God. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we currently working on?How has God revealed Himself?Is it possible to say true things about God? How do we speak truthfully about God?What is Illumination?Can we read the Bible just like we would read any other book?Helpful Definitions: Natural Revelation: A common knowledge of God that is given to all humanity.Special Revelation: God has revealed himself to us in Christ and through Scripture.Theophnustos (θεόπνευστος): God-breathed.Illumination: The Holy Spirit who has inspired God’s word, turns the light on for us to rightly hear and receive what God has already testified to. Christological Analogy: The Bible is fully divine and fully human yet one text.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Romans 1:20, Hebrews 1:1, Colossians 1:15, 2 Timothy 3:16, Psalm 36, Revelation 5 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the different ways people interpret the Book of Revelation. Questions Covered in This Episode: How do we put the phrase “was, is, and is to come” in the right context?What tier of importance is Eschatology?What is hermeneutics?Is the only kind of prophecy telling the future?What are the main approaches to this book?Why is it significant to have conversations about these theological categories?Helpful Definitions: Hermeneutics: How do we interpret and read Biblical texts?Prophecy: Telling us things that are eternally true.Foretelling: Future prediction of events that have yet to happen.Forthtelling: Divine commentary of what is happening. Proclaiming.Futurist: Everything from Rev. 4:1 onward to be concerning future unfulfilled affairs/events.Historicist: A prophecy laying out the history of the church between the two advents.Preterist: Most prophecies in Revelation have been fulfilled in the years immediately following John’s writing of the book.Idealist: Revelation is concerned about presenting timeless principles and we should not be concerned about tying fulfillment (past, present, or future) to prophecies.Ladd: “eclectic approach” Blending futurist and preterist approaches. Proper fulfillment in the near future and some of them most hold trust for a future fulfillment.Historicist/Idealist: Historicist with a heavy emphasis on the symbolic nature of the text.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 1:8, 1:17, Revelation 2:8, Revelation 5, Revelation 4:1 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley talk about the importance of the doctrine of the Trinity and what it is (and isn’t). Questions Covered in This Episode: Is it fair to say that the Trinity is a bit like water in that it can take three forms: liquid, gas, and solid?How do we define the Trinity?Why is it important to try to understand this doctrine?If the word Trinity isn’t in the bible, why is it a core Christian doctrine?Does the Trinity have a hierarchy?What sets God apart from His creatures?Helpful Definitions: Trinity: God eternally exists as one essence and three distinct persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each of which is fully God, yet there is One God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Ephesians 1, Mark 12:30, Romans 12:2, Philippians 4:8-9, Romans 11, Psalm 1:2-3, 1 Samuel 8:5, John 13-17Apostles creedNicea creedChocodeon creedMatthew Barrett The Trinity Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what the book of Revelation is about and how we can begin to approach studying it. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we doing this season?What are your thoughts about current events - are we living in the end times?What does Advent have to do with Revelation?Does your study provide a conclusive answer to the question of the rapture?What genre of literature is Revelation?How do we read and approach Scripture appropriately?What are you looking forward to jumping into when studying the book of Revelation?What is your experience in reading the different views of Revelation?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Don’t Fear the Marks in Revelation” by Jen Wilkin“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss deep discipleship, how the church today needs discipleship, and a big project they have been working on! Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we doing this season?Are we producing deep disciples?What is Deep Discipleship?Where does Deep Discipleship relate to women’s ministry?What is coming in 2025 with Lifeway?What are some of the doctrines we are excited to explore this season?Helpful Definitions: Theology: Words about God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Habakkuk 2:14“Deep Discipleship” by JT English“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT EnglishDeep Discipleship CohortThe State of Theology Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 13 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on August 22! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 13. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we doing this season?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation“Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen WilkinTraining the Church Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Kevin Grasso to discuss why learning the Bible in its original language is important and how Biblingo can help. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is it valuable for ordinary people to be able to study the bible in the original languages?Where did the desire to know the Bible in its original languages come from for you?Are there any passages in Exodus that you could help us dive deeper into by looking at the original language it was written in?What would you say to the person who doesn’t have time for a seminary degree or class to learn the Bible in its original language?How does Biblingo work?Guest Bio: Kevin Grasso is the co-founder and Ceo of Biblingo: Biblingo’s mission is to advance God’s Word in the world by making the biblical languages more accessible and easier to learn through technology. Kevin holds an MA in Linguistics with a concentration in Bible Translation from Dallas International University, an MA in comparative religion from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (focusing on Paul and second temple Judaism), and a PhD in Hebrew Language from Hebrew University. He has published in both Greek and Hebrew linguistics and focuses his research on the intersection of linguistics, exegesis, and biblical theology. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 3, Exodus 6, Exodus 22:22Biblingo Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Rebecca McLaughlin to talk about her newest book “Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?”  Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did you write this book?What are the top three most common claims you deal with in the book? How can Christians speak the truth in love online and in person when it comes to addressing these claims?What do you hope Christians will do with this book?Guest Bio: Rebecca McLaughlin holds a PhD from Cambridge University and a theology degree from Oak Hill Seminary in London. She is the author of several books, including Confronting Christianity, The Secular Creed, Jesus Through the Eyes of Women, and Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?. You can follow her on X, Instagram, or her website. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” by Rebecca McLaughlin“Confronting Christianity” by Rebecca McLaughlin“Is God Anti-Gay?” by Sam Allberry Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley come back to one of their most popular topics; brothers and sisters. Questions Covered in This Episode: Indisputably: This is something we get more feedback on than just about anything else…why is that?How has the culture shift affected this conversation?What has been the church's response to the shift in culture?What does the biblical doctrine of anthropology related to men and women have to affirm?When we say “we need each other,” what does that mean?What are the threats and liabilities of relationships? What about not having these relationships?Why are we using family-oriented language in this conversation?Does this apply to those who are not believers?How has this changed us? How has it changed our ministries?Why is getting this right crucial?Helpful Definitions: Adelphoi (ἀδελφοί): Brothers and sisters. The family of God.Philia: A kind of love that exists only among family, not just biologically but spiritually through the blood of Christ.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Crossway: Women of the Word“Jesus through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Sam Allberry to have a conversation about union with Christ and both of their new books! Questions Covered in This Episode: Why do we need more books about union with Christ?Why did you title the book “One with My Lord”?Why did you title your book “Home with God”?When did this doctrine first become precious to you?What is “union with Christ?”Do you see any connection between the covenant love of God and union with Christ?What did you learn while writing this book?When people read your book - what do you hope is the one thing they walk away with?Helpful Definitions: Union with Christ: When we come to believe in Jesus we are made one with Him. We are so spiritually one with Jesus that His righteousness becomes ours and it is right for our sin to be carried by Him.The believer's identification, incorporation, and participation into all who Christ is and all that Christ does.Guest Bio: Sam Allberry is a pastor, apologist and speaker. He is the author of a number of books, including Is God Anti-Gay?, Why Bother with Church?, 7 Myths about Singleness, and What God Has To Say About Our Bodies. He has written extensively for numerous organizations, including The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, and Living Out. Learn more about Sam’s books. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 21-22, Ephesians 2, Colossians 3, Matthew 28:20, Romans 6, 1 Corinthians 6, Hebrews 10:14“One with My Lord” by Sam Allberry“Home with God” by Kyle Worley Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation, union with Christ. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation?Why does Paul continually use the preposition “in”?It is possible to live in this world as an individual not united to someone else?I grew up hearing Christ in me, not me in Christ; where is the emphasis? Why was I presented with the opposite?What is the doctrine of union with Christ?How have we imported modern conceptions of identity on being in Christ?What is the difference between dying to self and living with Christ and embracing those distinctions that you want to dignify?It is important to value diversity?How is union with Christ different from communion with God?If someone said they were feeling cold in their relationship with God, how would you respond to them?Helpful Definitions: Union with Christ:A believers identification in Christ and incorporation into the body of all of those who are identified with Christ before God.The unbreakable, unshakeable reception of all of God’s saving benefits.Unbreakable relationship with God held by Jesus for His people, received by grace through faith.Communion with Christ: Fellowship with God. The enjoyment of God’s saving benefits, it is shakeable and breakable and you can also deepen it.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Acts 9, John 17:1–26, Ephesians 1:3-10, Romans 6:1-11, Galatians 2:20, Romans 5:19, Colossians 1:27, Genesis 3, Luke 14:11, Revelation 5, Romans 16Crossway: Women of the WordKnowing Faith Episode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a MetaphorAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Courtney Doctor to discuss her new book From Garden to Glory! Questions Covered in This Episode: Why’d you write this book?When was biblical theology on your radar?What are the “aha” moments when telling the story of the Bible?How does understanding the Bible as a great narrative change one’s faith?You suggest that the structure of the bible’s story is a bit like a good fairy tale - what do you mean by that?How do you picture this book being utilized in the local church?Guest Bio: Courtney Doctor is an author, Bible teacher, frequent conference and retreat speaker, and periodic blogger. She received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary in 2013 and is the author of several Bible studies, including From Garden to Glory, Steadfast, and In View of God's Mercies. She currently serves as the Director of Women's Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. Her greatest desire in all of this is to be able to faithfully study, apply, and teach the word of God and help others to do the same. God has blessed Courtney and her husband, Craig, with four wonderful children, three great kids-in-law, five sweet grandchildren — and their much-loved, goofy dog, Walter. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “From Garden to Glory” by Courtney DoctorTGC Womens Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners! Questions Covered in This Episode: While we have unity in Christ…what 2nd, 3rd or 4th tier issues "divide" my favorite podcasters?What do you think are going to be the challenges of ministry in the local church in the next ten years?My local church has a tone of saying: “Just because you study the bible doesn’t mean you're mature in the faith…and discipleship doesn’t happen in programs, it happens in real relationships” Although both are true, I feel like it’s downplaying the indeed for people to be in active learning spaces. I’m just a volunteer bible teacher, helpWhen you go deer hunting, you fill a bucket with corn feed to get the deer to come out of hiding. If we were hunting you, what would we have to fill a bucket with to find you?Should Christians watch the Chosen?Should there be apprehension toward hiring a pastor without formal seminary training?What is your favorite Girl Scout cookie?How do we think about relating to Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox friends? Should we find unity still when we as Protestants disagree heavily on some matters?Do you think modern believers misunderstand anything about heaven? If so, what?If Jesus was killed by Herod upon birth would that change anything theologically?Did Jesus die for everyone?Can you speak about how there are some laws that we should still obey from the OT but not all of them?In the New City Catechism in Q.2 they ask: “What is God?” Why did they use “what” instead of “who?”Can a pastor faithfully use A.I. in the production of material for a sermon?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Revelation 21, Luke 16:19-31The Chosen“Ten Words to Live By” by Jen WilkinNew City Catechism Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Andrew Wilson to discuss his new book, Remaking the World. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did you write this book? What did you want people to take away from this book?Can you explain the “WEIRDER” acronym and how it’s helpful for understanding the Western world?What do you mean by romanticism?How would you help someone see the lenses they have on when reading the Bible and how to shape and form new ones?Are American readers reading this differently?Were you intentionally trying to balance the ditch between the West being bad and the West being supreme?What is your next writing project?Guest Bio: Andrew is Teaching Pastor at King’s Church London, and has degrees in history and theology from Cambridge (MA) and King’s College London (PhD). He is a columnist for Christianity Today, and has written several award-winning books, most recently Remaking the World: How 1776 Created the Post-Christian West. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Remaking the World” by Andrew Wilson“Augustine of Hippo” by Peter Brown“Dominion” by Tom Holland Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss complementarianism and why a healthy ecclesiology is important for this conversation. Before you listen to this episode be sure to listen to Knowing Faith Episode #44 – A Generous Complementarianism. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is a pastor?Why is there confusion over this office/title?How is this title misused?Who can be a pastor?How does the office of pastor relate to the priesthood of all believers?Who is qualified to do what? (Non-qualified men, women, non pastors, etc.)How should some of the other ongoing conversations among evangelicals and Southern Baptists shape the way we approach these questions?Helpful Definitions: Pastor: Office an elder, bishop, overseer, pastor. Defined and reserved for qualified men, who are ordained, to function and hold the office in local churches of what it means to be a pastor/elder/shepherd.Episkopos (ἐπίσκοπος)Presbyteros (πρεσβύτερος)Poimenas (ποιμένας)Anthropology: The doctrine of humanity.Ecclesiology: The doctrine of the church.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Knowing Faith Episode #44 – A Generous ComplementarianismEphesians 4:11“Saddleback Female Pastors Debate Raises Bigger Questions for the SBC” Christianity Today ArticleTraining the Church CohortAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question, how do we pray the Bible? Questions Covered in This Episode: How do we pray the Bible?Where should people begin when starting to pray the Bible?Guest Bio: Dr. Whitney is Associate Dean of the School of Theology and Professor of Biblical Spirituality. Dr. Whitney is a member of Third Avenue Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He is the author of many books including but not limited to; Praying the Bible and Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life. Whitney is married to Caffy, and they have one child.  Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Praying the Bible” by Don Whitney“Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life” by Don Whitney Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley wrap up the conversation on the book of Exodus! Questions Covered in This Episode: What have you learned as we explored Exodus over these two seasons?Where did we see the themes in Exodus in the rest of the Story of the Bible?What is biblical theology and how are we able to make connections across scripture?How can someone learn how to make connections across scripture?How can someone dive deeper into the study of Exodus?Helpful Definitions: Systematic Theology: What the Bible says about specific doctrines. Biblical Theology: Categorizing themes or stories throughout Scripture. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus, Revelation, Hebrews, Matthew, Luke“Even Better than Eden” by Nancy Guthrie“Echoes of Exodus” by Alastair Roberts and Andrew Wilson“God of Deliverance” by Jen Wilkin“God of Freedom” by Jen Wilkin“The Pentateuch” by J. Hays“Founding God's Nation” by Leon Kass Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Amy Gannett to continue the story of Exodus by discussing the themes found in Exodus 40.  Questions Covered in This Episode: What’s your favorite part of the Exodus story?What is the purpose of the Tabernacle?Does the Tabernacle contain the glory and presence of God?Where has the cloud and fire shown up so far in the story?What is God inviting his people into with the tabernacle, journey into the land, and waiting?Do we get the cloud and fire type elsewhere in the story?What comes next in the Pentateuch?Guest Bio: Amy Gannett (M.Div, Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary) is a speaker, writer, and Bible teacher. She is the author of several exegetical Bible studies, and her teaching and writing has been featured on Christian outlets like Well-Watered Women, The Gospel Coalition, JourneyWomen, Risen Motherhood, and Christ and Pop Culture. She is also the founder of Tiny Theologians, which offers training tools for parents and children’s ministries, equipping them to pass on the Christian faith to the next generation. You can find her online at amygannett.com, and on social media at @amycategannett and @tinytheologians. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 40:34-38, Acts 2, Matthew 5:14, Revelation 16, John 8:12Tiny Theologians PodcastTiny Theologians Website Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the significance of “The Attributes of God” by A.W. Pink. Questions Covered in This Episode: When did you first come across AW Pink?Who was AW Pink? Why is he significant?What are the attributes of God?How significant was Pink's work when you were writing your books on the attributes?How do the attributes of God help us understand scripture?Does god have attributes or is God his attributes?Why do you keep reading this book? What stands out to you?Why should a listener consider reading it?Helpful Definitions: Incommunicable Attributes: Things that make God God, that we cannot be.Communicable Attributes: Things that God shares in common with his creation.Divine Simplicity: God does not have parts. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: "The Attributes of God" by A.W. Pink“The Knowledge of the Holy” by A.W. Tozer“None Like Him” by Jen Wilkin“In His Image” by Jen Wilkin Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Allen to answer the question; “why for the church”? Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is the motto for Midwestern, “For the Church”?When you look back, what is one thing you see at Midwestern that is a direct result of your mission?Guest Bio: Dr. Jason Allen is the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to his role as president, he also serves as a professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. He is the author of a number of books including; Turnaround: The Remarkable Story of an Institutional Transformation and the 10 Essential Principles and Practices That Made It Happen. He posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.” Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Midwestern Baptist Theological SeminaryFor the Church Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley trace the themes found in the Tabernacle and throughout the rest of scripture. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is this section of text important?How does its design tell the story of the world?What is the Tabernacle?In what way is the tabernacle a shadow?How is the Tabernacle foreshadowing the end of the story?What about all of the stones, gems, and precious jewels?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 37-39, Gen 2:1-3, John 14:15-31, Revelation 21-22, 2 Samuel 6:1-7, Exodus 19:6 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the significance of “Institutes of the Christian Religion” by John Calvin.  Questions Covered in This Episode: When was the first time you heard of Calvin?Who was John Calvin?What is Calvin’s Institutes of the Christian Religion?Why do you keep reading this book?If I am not a Calvinist is there a benefit in reading the Institutes?What stands out to you from the book?Helpful Definitions: Five points of Calvinism: Total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Institutes of the Christian Religion” by John Calvin“Calvin's Company of Pastors” by Scott M. Manetsch“The History of Study Bibles” by Stephen Nichols“Calvin's Ladder” by Julie Canlis Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the themes found throughout Exodus 34-36 and trace them throughout the rest of Scripture.  Questions Covered in This Episode: What are on the tablets Moses receives in Exodus 34:1-9?Why do we need the 10 commandments, again?Does Exodus 34:7 mean that if a father sins there will be some sort of judgment that is passed down generationally?Why is the proclamation of the name significant?Where does the number 40 show up in the Bible?What is going on with Moses’s shining face? Where else does it show up in scripture?After Moses’ intercession, he gathers the people to tell them to take a Sabbath. Why?What follows is a bit like the reversal of the Golden Calf incident (Exodus 35:20-29) - right?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 34-36, Jonah 4:2, Joel 2:12-14, Philippians 3, Matthew 4:1-11, Luke 9:28-36, 2 Corinthians 3:18Knowing Faith Divine Judgment against False Gods (Exodus 32-33) Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the history and importance of Luther’s “Commentary of Galatians.” Questions Covered in This Episode: Who was Martin Luther? Why is he significant?What was the point of the reformation?What are the 95 theses and indulgences?What is Luther’s Galatians Commentary? Why was it significant?What do you love about it?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Commentary of Galatians” by Martin Luther“The Curse Motif of the Atonement” by RC Sproul Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to answer the question, “Why read anything other than the Bible?” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why read anything other than the Bible?Who are some of your favorite Christian writers to read?Guest Bio: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the themes found in Exodus 32-33. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is Moses interceding?Why does Israel respond this way if they are going to get the land?Is the tent of meeting outside the camp the same or different from the Tabernacle?Is Israel’s distinctiveness rooted in the presence of Yahweh?What is the presence of God?What is the glory of God?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 32-33, Jonah 4:2, 2 Corinthians 3:16Knowing Faith The Temptation of Idols Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Duesing to answer the question, “What is religious liberty?” Questions Covered in This Episode: What is religious liberty?What is the goal of religious liberty?How does religious liberty impact Christians during an election year?Guest Bio: Jason Duesing serves as the Provost, Senior Vice President for Academic Administration, and Professor of Historical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He came to MBTS after serving for more than a decade on the administrative leadership team and faculty at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. Duesing earned his Ph.D. in Historical Theology and Baptist Studies from Southwestern Seminary in 2008. He also holds a M.Div. from Southeastern Seminary and a B.A. in Speech Communications from Texas A&M University in College Station. Duesing is married to Kalee, and together they have four children. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about “Orthodoxy” by GK Chesterton. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the value of reading across church history?Who was GK Chesterton? Why is he significant?Why did you read this book originally? Why do you keep reading it?What is Orthodoxy?What stands out to you from the book?What are Chesterton’s theological views?Why should a listener consider reading it?Helpful Definitions: Modernity: The acceleration of believing that humanity is the center of the story, man is the measurement of all that claims to be true, good, and beautiful. The best way to explore what is true is with man at the center and as the measure.Hyper Modernity: An acceleration of modernity that turns it into law or ridiculousness.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Orthodoxy” by GK Chesterton Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Kody Gibson to answer the question, “What are the three biggest myths about seminary?” Questions Covered in This Episode: What are the three biggest myths about seminary?Guest Bio: Kody Gibson serves as Vice President of Communications and Brand Strategy at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and Spurgeon College. Kody has served for over 10 years in theological education leading recruiting and communications efforts at both Southern Seminary and Phoenix Seminary prior to coming to Midwestern. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the book of Exodus to trace the themes of idols found in Exodus 32:1-10 and the rest of the Bible. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is an idol? What is idolatry?Where had Israel come from?Why a golden calf?Where does the gold come from?Where does idolatry show up in the rest of the story?What is God’s response?Why does Moses remind God about the promises He made, why is this language used?Why does the judgment take this specific form in the story?Can Moses be the substitute for Israel?Helpful Definitions: Idol: A man-made image that represents another god or something to be worshiped.Idolatry:Try to worship something in the hopes it will make you into God.Take a creaturely thing and exalt it in a way that belongs to God alone in hopes that it will reward you.The spirit of giving oneself over to a false god in a way that only belongs to God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 32:1-10, Genesis 1-2, Judges, Genesis 19, Genesis 31:34, Isaiah 44:20Knowing Faith: Blood and Covenant Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Patrick Schreiner to answer the question; why is Moses at the transfiguration? Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is Moses at the transfiguration?Who did Moses see on top of the mountain?What is the manner of glory we see during the transfiguration?Guest Bio: Dr. Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program and Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the author of a number of books, including a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, The Mission of the Triune God: A Theology of Acts, The Body of Jesus: A Spatial Analysis of the Kingdom in Matthew, The Kingdom of God and the Glory of the Cross, Matthew, Disciple and Scribe: The First Gospel and Its Portrait of Jesus,  and The Ascension of Christ: Recovering a Neglected Doctrine. He is married to Hannah and they have four children. You can follow him on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Matthew 17, 2 Corinthians 3-4, Hebrews 3-4, Exodus 33-35, John 14:9, Isaiah 6, Ezekiel 1-2, 1 John 3:2“Transfiguration of Christ” by Patrick Schreiner Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the importance of the work “Confessions” by Saint Augustine. Questions Covered in This Episode: Who was St. Augustine? Why is he significant?When was the first time you came across Confessions?What is Confessions?Why do you keep reading it?What stands out to you from the book?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: “Confessions” by Saint Augustine“City of God” by Saint Augustine“Augustine of Hippo: A Biography” by Peter Brown Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jason D. to answer the question, what does the law of Moses have to do with the Christian? Questions Covered in This Episode: What does the law of Moses have to do with the Christian?Guest Bio: Dr. Jason S. DeRouchie serves as Research Professor of Old Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches both MDiv and PhD students and direct doctoral dissertations. Dr. DeRouchie's research interests include biblical hermeneutics, the New Testament use of the Old Testament, Hebrew discourse analysis, Deuteronomy, Zephaniah, the nature and relationship of the biblical covenants, seeing and savoring Jesus in all of Scripture, and the Christian’s relationship to Old Testament laws and promises Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Galatians 3, 2 Corinthians 3, 1 Corinthians 9:20-21, 1 Timothy 5, Ephesians 6, 1 Peter 1:15, Romans 15:4, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, 1 Corinthians 5 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about how the sabbath is connected to worship in Exodus 31:12-18. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is a summary of the story of Exodus so far?Why the unique filling of the Spirit with these two craftsmen/artists?Do we see other moments like this in the story of the Bible?Why all of this attention to the beauty of the temple?What is the purpose of the sabbath?How is sabbath practice connected to worship?Where else does the sabbath show up in significant ways in the biblical story?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 31:12-18, Genesis 2:1-3 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Matthew Barrett to answer the question, do I really need systematic theology to be a disciple of Jesus? Questions Covered in This Episode: Is systematic theology necessary for discipleship?How would you encourage someone who is looking to do this but is intimidated by the bigger books?Guest Bio: Dr. Matthew Barrett is Associate Professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also the founder and executive editor of Credo Magazine. He is the author of numerous books including: Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit, None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God, and God’s Word Alone: The Authority of Scripture. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 1 John“On the Incarnation” by Saint Athanasius“The Consolation of Philosophy” by Ancius Boethius Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss “On the Incarnation” by Athanasius. Questions Covered in This Episode: Who was St. Athanasius?When did you read On the Incarnation for the first time?What stands out to you from the book?Why should a listener consider reading this book?How does reading more classical devotional works help us with Biblical study?Helpful Definitions: Trinitarianism: God eternally exists as one essence and three distinct persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each of whom is fully God, yet there is one God.Hypostatic Union: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, in time, takes upon himself the entirety of human nature except sinfulness. He is both fully God and fully man in one person.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 10ofthose“On the Incarnation” by Saint Athanasius Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the book of Exodus to discuss the worship and sacrifice in Chapter 30. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why are sacrifices offered to God?What do sacrifices have to do with worship?What is the tax doing?Why the attention given to cleanliness as it pertains to worship?Where else do we see the anointing oil in the story of scripture?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 30:1-10, Psalm 46, Luke 1:5-25, Psalm 23, Matthew 3:13-17, Luke 7:36-50 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley take a break in their journey through Exodus to spotlight some major questions, discussions, and works in church history. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the value of reading across church history?What is the relationship between the testimony of scripture and the testimony of the church’s historic witness (i.e. tradition)?Who are some of the widely agreed upon significant names/thinkers to be familiar with throughout the history of the church?Helpful Definitions: Tradition 0: No creed but the Bible or Solo Scriptura: Scripture alone.Tradition 1 (One-Source): The Bible alone is authoritative but we need tradition to come alongside to help us become better readers or Sola scriptura: By Scripture alone. Tradition 2 (Two Sources): Tradition is as authoritative as scripture.Filioque Clause: What does it mean for the Father and Son to send the Holy Spirit.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Apostles Creed Series“Against Heresies” by Irenaeus“On the Incarnation” by Saint Athanasius“The Democratization of American Christianity” by Nathan Hatch“The Book of Pastoral Rule” by Pope Gregory“Cur Deus Homo: Why God Became Man” by Anselm“Summa Theologica” by Thomas Aquinas“A Summa of the Summa” by Peter Kreeft“The Bondage of the Will” by Martin Luther“Commentary on Galatians” by Martin Luther“Institutes of the Christian Religion” by John CalvinThe Heidelberg CatechismThe Belgic Confession of FaithWestminster Confession of FaithThe Westminster Shorter CatechismThe Westminster Larger CatechismThe First London Baptist Confession of Faith (1646)Second London Baptist Confession of Faith (1689)“The Pilgrim’s Progress” by John Bunyan“Communion with God” by John Owen“Church Dogmatics” Carl Bart Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue the story of Exodus to discuss what it means to be a priest. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is a priest according to the Bible?Have we encountered priests before this moment?What was the role of these priests? What did they do?Why all the fancy clothes?The priests are consecrated by blood: Why?Helpful Definitions: Priest: Someone who represents God to the people, and the people to God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 28:1-5, Exodus 29:1-9, Isaiah 9:6, Revelation 4, 1 Peter 2:9 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the design of the Tabernacle and God’s presence. Questions Covered in This Episode: How is the Exodus 20 and beyond instruction, not legalism?What is the Ark of the Covenant? Where would we find it?What is inside the Ark?What is atonement? What about the table for bread and the golden lampstand?What about the altar of incense?Is the presence of God exclusionary?What do we learn about the call to holiness in these passages?Helpful Definitions: Transcendence: God is set apart.Immanence: God is close.Atonement: At one with God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus 25:10-22, Leviticus 16, Romans 3:25, Revelation 4, John 1:14, Hebrews 10“The Crucified King” by Jeremy Treat“The Atonement”  by Jeremy Treat Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley trace the themes found throughout the book of Exodus. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is biblical theology?What are some of the themes we covered in the story of Exodus so far?Where do we see the birth narrative before, during, and after the book of Exodus?Is deliverance a theme in the book of Exodus?What about covenants?Helpful Definitions: Systematic Theology: What the Bible says about specific doctrines. Biblical Theology: Categorizing themes or stories throughout Scripture. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus, Genesis 3:15, John 3, Genesis 15, Matthew 1 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back to continue studying the book of Exodus by giving an overview of the story, themes, and characters found in the book. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why are we taking two seasons to explore Exodus?Are the themes in Exodus found throughout the rest of Scripture?What happens before the book of Exodus?How does Exodus begin?Who are the major characters in the first half of the story?What happens after Moses' birth?Why is Mount Sinai important?Is Sinai the final destination of Israel?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 22, Exodus 3, Exodus 19 Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 12 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on January 25! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 12 as they continue to cover the book of Exodus! Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we going to cover this season?What are you most excited about exploring as we continue to discuss Exodus? Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by their patron supporters! Questions Covered in This Episode: If God didn’t reveal his name as Yahweh until he told Moses, why do we see Moses using that name throughout the book of Genesis in quotations by Adam (Gen 4:1), Lamech (Gen 5:29), Noah (9:26)?I think when most people think of God in Exodus and the Old Testament in general they think of the Father. Could you all discuss the work of the economic Trinity throughout Exodus?What your thoughts on life after death? I've always been taught to be absent from the body is to be present from the Lord, but I listened to a Bible Project podcast that taught that we'll be in a deep sleep until the second coming of Christ when the dead in Christ will rise.Tell us about someone that you've discipled that has really grown and flourished, who might be really kicking it for the Kingdom now. How did the relationship begin? What contributed to their growth?What's your opinion on sushi?Where do you see single gender spaces being valuable vs. mixed gender spaces? For example, do you see men and women learning inductive Bible study methods together? Spiritual disciplines/formation? How would men and women share in teaching in those spaces?How do each of your spouses support you in ministry/your ministry? How has being in ministry affected your marriages?Reading across translations, Genesis 3:15 often doesn’t sound like a promise of victory or defeat since it’s directed at the serpent. Would the first hearers have understood it as a promise, or is it something we project on this statement in hindsight?If the three persons of the trinity have only one will, why would Christ need to intercede for us to the Father?Where does children's ministry help and where does children's ministry hurt (in the context of the Sunday gathering)? What are potential pitfalls to be avoided when leading children's ministry and what parts shouldn't be overlooked?Would like to hear perspective on the Enneagram.What are your thoughts on how to deeply disciple in a space where the few seasoned believers are already at capacity?If the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, how should we think about what the fear of the Lord is?What are your thoughts on how/when to apply a “plain reading of scripture” versus diving deep into the original language, culture, and context to inform our understanding and application of God’s Word?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Genesis 4:1, 5:29, 9:26, 3:15, The Bible ProjectKnowing Faith Episode 197“Hold On to Your Kids” by Gordon Neufeld and Gabor Maté MD “The Coddling of the American Mind” by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan HaidtSponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Jared C. Wilson and Dr. Matthew Barrett during The Gospel Coalition Conference to record a live episode! Questions Covered in This Episode: Why this interest in Exodus?What are we learning together about Exodus?Why is the theme of exile important?Jen, why did you write a book of the ten commandments?What is the significance of Mt. Sinai in Israel’s story?Is there a new covenant here at Sinai or are we seeing a further unfolding of the existing covenant with Abraham?Is the law irrelevant to Christians today? Are we expected to keep the law?Is part of discipleship moral change?Which member of the trinity was with Moses?How do you study to teach a narrative text?How do we teach the law faithfully to our children?Guest Bio: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Dr. Matthew Barrett is Associate Professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also the founder and executive editor of Credo Magazine. He is the author of numerous books including: Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit, None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God and God’s Word Alone: The Authority of Scripture. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Exodus, Genesis 3, Hebrews 12, 2 Corinthians 3MBTS.edu/cohorts“Ten Words to Live By” by Jen Wilkin“Reformation as Renewal” by Matthew Barrett“Friendship with the Friend of Sinners” by Jared C WilsonSponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley wrap up the season by answering questions submitted by listeners! Questions Covered in This Episode: Do you know what cap means?Do you consider Catholicism a denomination of Christianity or is it a whole different religion?What do you tell your children about Santa?Are there any dangers in using imagination for comprehending the bible? Can we take biblical theology too far? I.E. Read too much into connections across scripture?Can a child call on the Spirit for help if they aren’t born again yet? What happens to those who never hear of Jesus Christ - why would God not let everyone hear of Jesus Christ?If you could convince the other two of something, what would it be and why?Do you believe we need to be baptized into the Spirit even if we’ve already been baptized?How does God’s triune nature influence the way humans reflect God’s image?How would you all describe each other?What has God been teaching you lately?Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Ephesians 4:4Sponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please  visit our website. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the theme of God dwelling with his people in Exodus 25 and throughout the rest of the story of Scripture. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why does God want to dwell with His people? Is this new?Does God continue to want to dwell with His people?What is the tabernacle?Why is God dwelling in a tent significant?Where did Israel get all the stuff to build the Tabernacle?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 25:1-9, Genesis 1-3, Revelation 21-22, Hebrews 9Sponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue to trace themes found in the book of Exodus by looking at chapter 24. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the book of the covenant?Why are these law codes helpful for Israel?What covenant is being confirmed here? Is it a new covenant or an old covenant?Where does blood show up in the Exodus story?Why the blood?How does blood play into covenant-making outside of the story of Exodus?Why is verse 9-11 significant for understanding God’s covenant-making and keeping for the rest of the story?We get some creation echoes in VV. 15-18, don’t we?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 24, Genesis 9, Genesis 15, Exodus 12, 1 Peter 1:2, Exodus 19:6, John 1:14, Revelation 4-5, John 13Progressive Covenantalism by Dr. Stephen J. WellumSponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Adam Ramsey to discuss God’s law and limits. Questions Covered in This Episode: What’s your new book about? Why did you write it?Why does God include rest into the law?How does the law limit God’s people?How does God’s law in the Torah serve as a witness to us of what God invites his rescued people into?What have you learned about bringing the wisdom of God to the temptations of a world of limitless living?Can you explain, “You shall not boil a young goat in its mother's milk”?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 23:10-19“Truth on Fire” by Adam Ramsey“Faithfully Present” by Adam RamseyGuest Bio: Adam Ramsey leads Liberti Church on the Gold Coast of Australia. He serves as the network director of Acts 29 Asia Pacific and he is the author of Truth on Fire: Gazing at God until your Heart Sings and Faithfully Present: Embracing the Limits of Where and When God Has You. Sponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the purpose of the Ten Commandments and why they are significant for us today. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is verse two important to the Ten Commandments?What is the purpose of the law?Is the order of the laws significant?What is the liturgical purpose of the law?Where do we see the law in the rest of the Story of Scripture?What is the proper role of the Ten Commandments in the life of a Christian?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 20:1-21, Romans 1-3, Exodus 18, Matthew 5-7, Psalms 40:8“Ten Words to Live By” by Jen WilkinSponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the themes found in the stories of God turning bitter water sweet, the provision of manna, and water flowing from the rock Moses strikes. Questions Covered in This Episode: After the Song of Moses and Miriam, we get this interesting little account of God turning bitter water sweet for Israel: How is this significant?How do these three stories fit together?How do these stories connect to Jesus?Where do we see this miraculous provision of bread from heaven elsewhere in the story of scripture?Where else does God address people grumbling?When we are reading Old Testament passages that deal with the law, how much should we be looking at these passages and wondering if there are principles that should be governing our moral imagination?We get the sabbath principle before we get the law of sabbath. Why?What is the significance of the rock that Moses strikes?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 16:1-12, Exodus 15:26-27, Revelation 8:10-11, John 4, 1 Kings 17, 2 Kings 4, Ruth, 1 Corinthians 10:2-4Sponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Sam Bierig to answer the question, what Does It Mean to Read The Bible Theologically? Questions Covered in This Episode: What does it mean to read the Bible theologically?How can someone practice a theological reading of Scripture?Resources Mentioned Chalcedonian CreedNicene CreedGuest Bio: Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at Spurgeon College. Sam completed his Ph.D. in Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary where he wrote his dissertation on hermeneutics and the interpretation of the book of Proverbs. Sam also holds degrees from Southern Seminary and Ouachita Baptist University. He has written a devotional on Jonah, a book for pastors titled “No Neutral Words: The Pastor’s Investment and Stewardship of His Most Precious and Powerful Tool”, and a book for student pastors titled “Fulfill Your *Student Ministry: A Manifesto and Field Guide”. He is a regular contributor at ftc.co. He is happily married to Mallory, and they have four children: Abby, Levi, Owen, and Piper. Sponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley take a look at Exodus 15:1-8 and how imprecatory psalms, songs, prayers show-up throughout the story of Scripture. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the substance of this song? What is it celebrating?What are imprecatory psalms, songs, prayers? Why do we not use this language anymore?How do we talk about judgment when people don't have a category for it?How do songs of deliverance and redemption show up throughout scripture?What is Christus Victor?What happens right after this song in reference to water?Helpful Definitions: Penal Substitutionary Atonement: Jesus is our substitute for our penalty for sin.Christus victor: Jesus is the victor over his enemies.Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 15:1-18, 1 Samuel 2:1–10, Luke 1:46-55, Matthew 26:17-30, Judges 5, 2 Samuel 22, Colossians 1, Genesis 3:15“The Chronicles of Narnia” by C.S. LewisSponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Charles Smith to answer the question, are We Wrong to Learn Leadership Lessons From Old Testament Stories? Questions Covered in This Episode: Are We Wrong to Learn Leadership Lessons From Old Testament Stories?If you were going to identify one leadership story in the Old Testament that you resonate with, who would it be?Guest Bio: Dr. Charles Smith serves as Senior Vice President for Institutional Relations and Assistant Professor of Christian Leadership at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He earned a Business Administration degree from Mississippi College in 2007, a Master of Divinity from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2011, and a PhD from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2020. He and his wife, Ashley, have three daughters, Ellie, Annie, and Susie. Sponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss Exodus 14:26-31 and how the theme of water can be traced throughout the entire story of scripture. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the story of Exodus so far?What have we already discovered about water in the story of the Pentateuch? What about Yahweh’s power over water?Where else do we discover stories of deliverance that involve water?Can we go back to the serpent king?Is there any connection with the absence of the sea in the new heavens and the new earth?How does water show up throughout the rest of the story?How does all of this connect to baptism?How does Israel’s Exodus through the Red Sea foreshadow baptism?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 14:26-31, Genesis 1:2, Genesis 6-8, Exodus 7, Joshua 3, Acts 2, Romans 6, Ezekiel 29:3 & 32:2, Psalm 74:13-17, Revelation 4-5 & 12 & 22, Habakkuk 2:14, Jonah, Psalm 29, Matthew 14:22-33, Job 9:6-9, Genesis 3:15, 1 Corinthians 10“Echoes of Exodus”“The Pilgrim’s Progress” by John Bunyan“Little Pilgrim’s Big Journey” by Tyler Van Halteren 10ofThoseSponsors: Interested in free theological training? Midwestern Seminary recently released three new classes through their For the Church Institute. Study for free and at your own pace through FTCI today! Learn more and sign up at ftcinstitute.com To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the Passover in Exodus 12:21-28 and the themes we can trace throughout the story.  Questions Covered in This Episode: What was the Passover event?Why the blood? Aren’t sacrifices of blood barbaric?Why the ceremony around how to prepare for the Passover?Where else do we see these covenant-making or covenant-keeping meals?Is the Lord’s Supper a direct fulfillment of the Passover?Why do we not need to offer sacrifices of blood anymore?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 12:21-28, Psalm 4:4-6, Acts 5:1-11, Ephesians 1:7, Ephesians 2:13, Colossians 1:20, 1 Peter 1:2, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 5:9, Revelation 19:13, Luke 8:43-48, Abraham 18:8, Genesis 15, Hebrews 9-10, Revelation 5, Hebrews 10:18Sponsors: Are you a pastor or love your pastor and the work they do? Enter to win Midwestern Seminary's $10,000 Pastor Appreciation Month giveaway and learn more about there free resources and content they have to encourage and equip your pastor. mbts.edu/pastors To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continuing discussing the plagues and trace the themes of death and deliverance. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why does the story of the plagues have so much death in it?Who is the firstborn?Why all the death?How does the death of the firstborn connect with larger themes of judgment, sin, and salvation?Is death still required for deliverance?God’s wrath needs to be satisfied, I thought He was a God of love?What's different between Pharoh and God?Should judgement begin with the house of God?Is death “good?”Helpful Definitions: Propitiation: A satisfaction of God’s wrath.Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 11, Romans 6:23, Genesis 3:19, Revelation 4, Genesis 22, John 1:29-32Sponsors: Are you a pastor or love your pastor and the work they do? Enter to win Midwestern Seminary's $10,000 Pastor Appreciation Month giveaway and learn more about there free resources and content they have to encourage and equip your pastor. mbts.edu/pastors To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Bumpers to answer the question, is God sending Israel into Canaan with an evangelism strategy? Questions Covered in This Episode: Is God sending Israel into Canaan with an evangelism strategy?Is the way God called Israel to live in the Old Testament different than what mission looks like in the New Testament?Guest Bio: Jared Bumpers is the Assistant Professor of Preaching & Evangelism and FTC Cohorts Faculty Coordinator at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Jared holds a B. S. in Pastoral Ministry from Baptist Bible College; a M.Div. from Luther Rice Seminary; a Th.M. in Biblical Studies from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary; and a Ph.D. in Christian Preaching from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. His doctoral research focused on the hermeneutic and homiletic of John Albert Broadus. Jared is married to his wife, Kimberly, and they have four children: McCartnie, Rush, Maverick, and Jett. Resources Mentioned in this Episode Genesis 12, Exodus 33:15, Joshua 2, Ruth, Isaiah 49:6, Jonah 4Sponsors: Are you a pastor or love your pastor and the work they do? Enter to win Midwestern Seminary's $10,000 Pastor Appreciation Month giveaway and learn more about there free resources and content they have to encourage and equip your pastor. mbts.edu/pastors To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue in the story of Exodus by looking at the themes found throughout the plagues. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are some things that stand out broadly about the plagues?When I say something is “polemical?” What do I mean?How has the story so far been polemical?How do the plagues address or argue against the false gods of Egypt?Where else do we see this as a theme across the story?What are the plagues? Which one stands out to you? Are there still false gods today? If so, how do we invoke God’s judgment upon them?When we think about false gods, are they imgained or are they real spiritual beings?Helpful Definitions: Polemical: Two different poles of an argument, two things that are highly contrasted.Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 7:8-19, 1 Kings 18, Genesis 6-9, Revelation 8, 1 Corinthians 15, Colossians 1“The God Contest Board Book“ by Carl LafertonSponsors: Are you a pastor or love your pastor and the work they do? Enter to win Midwestern Seminary's $10,000 Pastor Appreciation Month giveaway and learn more about there free resources and content they have to encourage and equip your pastor. mbts.edu/pastors To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to answer the questions, would you describe Moses as being friends with God? Questions Covered in This Episode: Would you describe Moses as being friends with God?What is friendship with God?Guest Bio: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 33:11, John 15:15“Friendship with the Friend of Sinners” by Jared WilsonSponsors: Are you a pastor or love your pastor and the work they do? Enter to win Midwestern Seminary's $10,000 Pastor Appreciation Month giveaway and learn more about there free resources and content they have to encourage and equip your pastor. mbts.edu/pastors To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley trace the theme of God showing His power through unique signs in Exodus 4:1-9. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are some places we see God demonstrate His power through unique signs?What’s significant about the serpent and the hand?What is happening with Moses journey to Egypt?To be born again in the New Testament means to be born of water and blood, does that tie into this?What about the God fearing pagan assisting and helping God’s people?Why do we as the audience keep getting God saying the same thing?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 4:1-9, Judges 6, Exodus 5-6Sponsors: Are you a pastor or love your pastor and the work they do? Enter to win Midwestern Seminary's $10,000 Pastor Appreciation Month giveaway and learn more about there free resources and content they have to encourage and equip your pastor. mbts.edu/pastors To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley discuss is joined by Matthew Barrett to answer the question, what is the value for non-catholics in learning and reading from ancient catholic theologians? Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the value for non-catholics in learning and reading from ancient catholic theologians?What catholic theologian from the early church would you point someone to?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Matthew 16:18“On the Incarnation” by Saint AthanasiusGuest Bio: Matthew Barrett is Professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also the founder and executive editor of Credo Magazine and the host of the Credo podcast. He is the author of numerous books, such as Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit, None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God, God’s Word Alone: The Authority of Scripture, and Canon, Covenant, and Christology: Rethinking Jesus and the Scriptures of Israel. He is originally from California, receiving his BA from Biola University. He received his MDiv and PhD in systematic theology from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is married to Elizabeth and they have four children. Dr. Barrett is an elder at Emmaus Church in north Kansas City.  Sponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the themes found in Exodus 3:1-8. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the biggest shift of Moses' life from the previous chapter to now?Moses is now a shepherd - is that something to note?Where else do we find fire in this story or throughout the story of scripture?Where else is there a theme of encountering holiness and hiding one's face?Who is God?What does Yahweh mean? Should we even say it?What does God tell Moses is going to happen?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 3:1-8, Genesis 15:17-21, Exodus 13:21, John 8:12, Isaiah 6, Luke 5:8, Revelation 21:23“Founding God's Nation” by Leon KassSponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue with the story in Exodus by looking at Exodus 2:23-25. Questions Covered in This Episode: What has gotten us to this point?Why is this moment significant?When it says God “remembered?” Does that mean God forgot?How does this connect the theme of “crying”?What is covenant?How are covenants shown throughout the rest of the story of scripture?Is there a covenant made in the Garden of Eden?How does the Mosaic covenant fit in if the Abrahamic covenant is always in play?Helpful Definitions: Covenant: A promise in which God obligates himself to his people. Through divine initiative, God breaks into human history to reveal himself and to enter relationship in the terms of an oath, with his people.Unilateral Covenant: One party obligates themselves to another party (or parties) in a way that doesn’t presume any conditions on the other party.Bilateral Covenant: Some level of mutuality or mutual exchange in the agreement.Pactum Salutis: Also known as the eternal covenant or covenant of grace. Begins in the eternal fellowship of God (the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) by which He makes a covenant to save for Himself a people.Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 2:23-25, Genesis 1-3, Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 3:15, Genesis 12, 15, 17, 22, Matthew 1:1, Exodus 19Sponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue to explore the themes found throughout Exodus as they look at the story of the birth of Moses. Questions Covered in This Episode: What are some of the birth narratives we see in scripture? What are some things we see in this specific birth narrative we should not miss?Do the midwives in this story foreshadow the virgin woman who conceives (Mary)?What are some other birth narratives the lead to deliverance in the Bible?What happens to Moses immediately following his birth?What is the word for basket that is used here?How does the theme of rivers show up here?How does the theme of water show up in the Story of the Bible?What about the crying in this story? Is crying a biblical theme?Helpful Definitions: Tebah (תֵּבָה): Hebrew word for a box, chest. Used to describe the ark of Noah.Systematic Theology: Studying doctrine found in scripture.Historical Theology: Studying how doctrine has developed over time.Biblical Theology: Studying themes found throughout scripture.Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 1:15-2:1, Genesis 3:15, Matthew 1-3, John 3:1-21, Numbers 11:15-23, Amos 5:24“Founding God's Nation” by Leon KassSponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss Exodus 1:1-11 and trace the themes of multiplication, wicked kings, and exile throughout scripture. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is biblical theology?What is an overview of the book of Exodus?Where did the idea of multiplication come from?How do we see the theme of the wicked kings and serpents throughout scripture?How do we see Exile reverberate as a theme beyond Exodus?How do these themes show up in other familiar stories?How do we see the theme of ineffectual persecution in scripture?What is the story of Exodus trying to give us hope in?Helpful Definitions: Systematic Theology: Studying doctrine found in scripture.Biblical Theology: Studying themes found throughout scripture.Ineffectual Persecution: Where the forces of evil intend to crush the people of God but instead the forces of evil end up being crushed by the living God.Resources Mentioned in this Episode Genesis 15, Genesis 37-50, Exodus 1:1-14, Genesis 1:28, Genesis 3:15, 1 Samuel 17, Revelation 12, 1 Kings 22:29-40, Genesis 3:23-24, 2 Kings 24-25, 1 Peter 1:1Knowing Faith: The Story of ExodusJoseph in Egypt Pt. 1Joseph in Egypt Pt. 2Sponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the book of Exodus! In this episode they give an overview of central characters, stories, and themes that appear in the book and why the are important. Questions Covered in This Episode: Jumping into Exodus: What’s the story so far?Is the Exodus event the fundamental event of the people of Israel that distinguishes them?Is Exodus a book of the Bible or a chapter of a book that has five chapters?Who are the central characters in Exodus?What are some of the major events?What are some major themes we can see in Exodus and throughout the rest of the Bible?What is a specific part of Exodus that has impacted your own life?Resources Mentioned in this Episode Exodus 33, Proverbs 9:10, Exodus 1:11“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and J.T. EnglishSponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: Knowing Faith | The Family Discipleship Podcast | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Season 11 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on August 31! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 11 as they cover the book of Exodus! Questions Covered in This Episode: What are we going to cover this season?What are our sister podcast shows?Why are we doing all of this?  Sponsors: Interested in starting seminary? Learn more about what it means to study #ForTheChurch at Midwestern Seminary and apply for free with code KNOWINGFAITH at mbts.edu/apply. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website  Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place | Tiny Theologians Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Katie McCoy to ask the question: If God created men and women to live as complements to one another, why do we find so much division and brokenness and confusion between men and women? Questions Covered in This Episode: If God created men and women to live as complements to one another, why do we find so much division and brokenness and confusion between men and women?How might Greek philosophy have impacted the way we think about these things?Has there ever been a time when it has been more confusion to address questions of manhood or womanhood?How did Aristotle subvert the Hebrew world view in our own thinking about our faith? Why have we lost this heritage?Walk us through the most difficult Old testament law for women to read and help us see how our own presuppositions cause us to fear it and how we should resolve it?How would you respond to someone who told you - “Listen, why are you even trying to make this work...the OT is a misogynistic document that subjugates women to male control.”Guest Bio: Dr. Katie McCoy, serves as an assistant professor of theology in Women’s Studies at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. She holds a Ph.D. from Southwestern in Systematic Theology where she wrote on OT laws about women’s personhood and what they can show us about human dignity. You can find her online @blondeorthodoxy and blondeorthodoxy.com. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: “The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self” by Carl R. TruemanNumbers 5:11-31Amazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Knowing Faith and Become a Patron: patreon.com/TrainingTheChurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the basics of developing a theological method, like looking to your Bible, utilizing your community and praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal truth. Questions Covered in This Episode: When presented with a theological question, assigned a topic, or have an interest peaked...where do you start?Where do you go from there?What are common pitfalls in theological study? How do you avoid them?How to build a biblical and theological library? Outside of scripture, what is your go to resource?Resources Mentioned in This Episode: The Nicene CreedChalcedonian CreedThe Apostles Creed“Calvin: Institutes of the Christian Religion” by John Calvin“Reformed Dogmatics” by Herman Bavinck“Systematic Theology” by Louis Berkhof“Essential Truths of the Christian Faith” by RC SproulThe New City Catechism“The Doctrine of God” by John Frame“The Doctrine of the Christian Life” by John Frame“The Doctrine of the Knowledge of God” by John FrameKnowing Faith, Ep. 8 – ”Do You Even Theology, Bro?”Knowing Faith, Ep. 10 – ”Brothers & Sisters: Can We Do Theology Together?”“Bad Theology Kills” Article on TVC ResourcesAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Knowing Faith and Become a Patron: patreon.com/TrainingTheChurch   Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Dan Darling to discuss his new book, “Agents of Grace.” Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did you write this book?Is it divisive to stand firm in Christian truth and doctrine?What is theological triage and how it can be helpful?Is the division we are seeing in our churches based on social, cultural, and political perspectives?How do we prevent the calls for unity to not turn into compromise or uniformity?What is one reason people should read this book?Helpful Definitions: Theological Triage: Ranking and prioritizing what issues and doctrines we cannot budge from and what can we disagree on. First Tier: Christian orthodoxy we cannot depart from; i.e. the trinity, the deity of Christ, etc.Second Tier: Things Christians have disagreed on; i.e. baptism and egalitarianism, etc. This tends to be how denominations are formed.Third Tier: Things that people in the same body of local believers may disagree on; i.e. the age of the earth, the timeline of Christ’s return, educating our kids, etc.Guest Bio: Daniel Darling is an author, pastor, and Christian leader. He currently serves as the Director of The Land Center for Cultural Engagement at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and Assistant Professor of Faith and Culture at Texas Baptist College. Dan is a bestselling author of several books, including The Original Jesus, The Dignity Revolution, The Characters of Christmas, The Characters of Easte, and A Way With Words. Dan holds a bachelor’s degree in pastoral ministry from Dayspring Bible College, has studied at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and is a graduate of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He and his wife Angela have four children. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: 1 Timothy 6:12, Jude 1:3, 2 Timothy 2:23, John 13:34-35“Agents of Grace” by Dan Darling“The Mark of the Christian” by Francis SchaefferAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley talk about what the Training the Church cohort is, why they do it, and who can participate. To find out more visit trainingthechurch.com. Questions Covered in This Episode: Why did we start the Training the Church cohort?JT, what has been the response to your book about discipleship?What is the Training the Church cohort? How does it work?What are some things we do in the cohort that participants find profitable?Who is the cohort for?What are my next steps?Resources Mentioned in This Episode: “You Are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT EnglishTraining the Church Cohort“Deep Discipleship” by JT EnglishKnowing Faith: Training the Church CohortAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place   Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the doctrine of Union with Christ. This is a Knowing Faith Remix episode from Episode #36. Questions Covered in This Episode: Let’s begin: Define the doctrine of “Union with Christ.”Where do we see this in the Old Testament? How about in the New Testament?Why does this doctrine matter?Helpful Definitions: Union with Christ: We enter in by grace through faith into Jesus Christ. Salvation is not just something God gives us it is something we receive.Union with Christ: “The intimate, vital, and spiritual union between Christ and His people, in virtue of which He is the source of their life and strength, of their blessedness and salvation.” Louis BerkhofUnion with Christ: The believer’s identification, participation, and incorporation with, in, through, and into the life, the death, the resurrection, the ascension, and the heavenly session of Jesus.Communion with Christ: Our ongoing cultivation of enjoying every spiritual blessing in Christ Jesus.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: 1, 2, 3 John, Ephesians 1:3-10, Romans 5, 1 Corinthians 15, Genesis 15, John 15, Acts 9, Galatians 2:20, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Romans 6:4-5, Matthew 25, Ephesians 2:1-10, 22, Romans 8, John 17:20-26Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Knowing Faith and Become a Patron: patreon.com/knowingfaith Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Julie Wilding to talk about the littlest theologians—kids—and how the Church and families can help form them into healthy disciples from their earliest years. This is a Knowing Faith Remix episode from Episode #29. Questions Covered in This Episode: Can kids be theologians?What have we learned about teaching doctrine to children?How does TVC do this?How have you done this in your home?But, aren’t they just repeating what we say? Is it really doing anything?Helpful Definitions: Theologian: One who has beliefs about God and operates from them.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Deuteronomy 6:4-9Your office thermostat is set for men’s comfort. Here’s the scientific proof.TVC Memory Verse Calendar 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018TVC Five Foundation Truths: God is good, God made everything, God is in charge of everything, God wants to talk with us, Jesus came to save sinners.Mosaic Four Foundational Truths: God is good, God is great, God is gracious, God is glorious.The Westminster Shorter CatechismNew City CatechismThe Jesus Storybook BibleSeeds Family WorshipAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website   Support Knowing Faith and Become a Patron: patreon.com/knowingfaith Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, Kyle Worley, and Elizabeth Woodson talk about the doctrine of God—who God is and how God is—live from the Proclaim Truth Conference. Questions Covered in This Episode: What do I mean when I distinguish between theology and theology proper?Let me just ask our big question right up front: “Can I know who and how God is?”What difficulties/weaknesses/realities complicate my ability to know who God is?When I come to the bible should I lay down my theological beliefs and conclusions?Any advice for women in churches where the pastors want the women's ministry to happen organically and resist having any sort of coordinator?Are the creeds a part of the canon? If not, why not say they are an imperative part of understanding the bible but they are not the bible?I help teach and lead a bible study at my church but the more I study God and his word the more I feel like I don’t know enough to teach. Should I stop?When the women in our studies see God as a cuddly bear/daddy, how would you approach this with grace and attribute to God’s holiness as well?Helpful Definitions: Anthropology: Doctrine of manSoteriology: Doctrine of salvationEcclesiology: Doctrine of the churchTheology Proper: The doctrine of God. How can we come to know God? Who is God? How does God make himself known to us?Incommunicable Attributes: Things that can only be true of God.Communicable Attributes: Things that are true about God that can also be true about us.Incomprehensible: Not able to be fully understood.General Revelation: God reveals his divine attributes in the world.Special Revelation: God reveals who He is in the Word of God incarnate and the Word of God inscripturated.Rationalism: The quest for certainty and knowledge is sourced in reason and the mind of the individual.Empiricism: The quest for knowledge is sourced in sensory experience and nature.Romanticism: The quest for knowledge is sourced from our feelings.Modernity: Epistemology leads to metaphysics.Pre-Modernity: Metaphysics leads to epistemology.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: John 1:1-18, Hebrews 13:7, Exodus 20, Hebrews 12Proclaim Truth Conference“Reformed Dogmatics, Vol. 1” by Herman BavinckThe Nicene CreedChalcedonian CreedAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Knowing Faith. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Mason King to discuss his recently released book, “Spiritual Disciplines: How to Become a Healthy Christian.” Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the story of The Village Church Institute?What is your elevator pitch for your book on spiritual disciplines?Why did you write this book? Why do you care about spiritual disciplines?Do you think our view of Christian transformation is skewed because of our view of how someone experiences change?How do we thread the needle between self-awareness and understanding and self-occupation?What are important questions we need to be asking?What gap exists when talking about the spiritual disciplines?What spiritual discipline is the most misunderstood?Guest Bio: Mason King serves as a pastor at The Village Church in Flower Mound, Texas. He also serves as the Executive Director of The Village Church Institute, Leadership Development, and Groups. He is currently completing Ph.D. in Church History from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and holds a D.Min. in Executive Leadership from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. A native Texan, Mason and his wife Carly have three kids and two labs.  Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Psalm 1The Village Church Institute“Spiritual Disciplines” by Mason King“The Divine Conspiracy” by Dallas Willard“You are What You Love” by Jams K.A. Smith“Faithfully Present” by Adam Ramsey“Eschatological Discipleship” by Trevin Wax “Women of the Word” by Jen WilkinAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Amy Gannett to announce the Tiny Theologians Podcast coming this fall! Questions Covered in This Episode: What is a tiny theologian?How did we get here?What is the format of this podcast? What can listeners expect?Where and when can people find the podcast?Guest Bio: Amy Gannett is a wife to Austin and a mom to Emerson and Elliot. Together with Austin, they are planting Trinity Church Greenville where Amy serves as the Director of Discipleship. Amy oversees Tiny Theologians, a resource to help kids grow in knowing and loving God through his Word through Gospel-centered and theologically-rich discipleship tools for children ages 2 to 12. She is the author of Fix Your Eyes and the founder of Bible Study Schoolhouse. Helpful Definitions: Theology: What we know and believe about God.Theologian: Anyone who wants to seek to know God through His word.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Tiny Theologians Website“Tiny Systematics” Tiny TheologiansTiny Theologians PodcastABC’s of God AttributesAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by their patron supporters! To learn more and become a patron visit patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Questions Covered in This Episode: If there is no hierarchy in the Trinity, why is Paul talking about the Son himself being made subject to God, who I assume is God the Father (1 Cor. 15:27-28)?In Luke Chapter 4, the devil tries to tempt Jesus. Did the devil actually have that authority that he was claiming to have? Was the devil just flat-out lying or was there some basis behind that temptation?Do you have recommendations on how to deepen heart engagement in devotional time with the Lord?If repetition is the mother of learning...then what is the father of learning?Do you have recommendations for other podcasts?Could you run through the basic guidelines for reading and understanding the Old Testament?What is the significance of the Transfiguration?Why are y’all Baptist? It is beneficial for Christians to be exposed to other traditions that are within the bounds of orthodoxy? If so, how are y’all doing that, personally and at church?Lately, I have been thinking of how on the cross Jesus took upon himself the full measure of the Father's wrath and how Jesus bore upon himself what was deserving for us. Also, at the same time, He gives us His righteousness in justification whereas now the Father sees us as holy through Jesus. It is something that I would love for you guys to expound upon that because it seems too awesome at times that Jesus both took what we deserved and gives us what is needed in order to be saved.Should Christians have “self-confidence”? What are helpful and unhelpful ways Christians can think about self-confidence?Would you guys be able to articulate the reasons why swearing is unwise/sinful?Resources Mentioned in This Episode: 1 Cor. 15:27-28, Luke 4, Matthew 25:14-30“Delighting in the Trinity” by Michael Reeves“Simply Trinity” by Matthew BarrettKnowing Faith Episode #170 Doctrine of God Roundup with Dr. Matthew BarrettPodcasts:Starting Place with Elizabeth WoodsonConfronting ChristianityThe Family Discipleship PodcastRenewing Your Mind with R.C. Sproul PodcastBibleProject PodcastKnowing Faith Episode #183 Salvation: Glorification with Patrick Schreiner“why swearing is dumb for christians” by Jen WilkinAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners! Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is baptism and the rules surrounding baptism so tricky?What is God’s view on cursing?Kyle, how does your Christian faith shape what kind of a wrestling fan you are?What is the purpose of speaking in tongues?How long after Jesus’s death did priests stop offering sacrifices?When’s a time you’ve been unexpectedly encouraged?Can you explain ‘limited atonement’ and the thought behind this doctrine?In this season, what is a worship song (or artist) that your churches have latched onto or that you have latched onto in your personal worship, and why?How can a young adult maintain a strong passion for the word over a lifetime?Helpful Definitions: Limited Atonement/Particular Redemption: It is limited in that it does not become efficacious for all people, it is particular that it is applied specifically to the church and not all people. Christ's death is effective to save.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Acts 8:26-40, Acts 2:4, 1 Corinthians 12-14“why swearing is dumb for christians” by Jen Wilkin“The Death of Death in the Death of Christ“ by John Owen“By Faith” by Keith and Kristyn Getty“Psalm 34” by Shane and Shane“Psalm 34 (Live)” by The Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir“Doxology // Amen” by The Worship Initiative, Shane & ShaneAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley take a stroll down memory lane and look back on the first ten seasons of Knowing Faith.  Questions Covered in This Episode: Has our overlap increased or decreased?What is a joke that y’all used to love making fun of Kyle for?Why do we continue to talk about brother/sister culture and complementarianism?Who are some of our favorite guests we have had on the show?What are some previous creative episode titles?What are some of our favorite moments when we are recording?Let’s listen to some quick bloopers and fun moments from the past ten seasons.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Knowing Faith Episodes#1 - What is Knowing Faith#7 - The Best Sermon Ever with Dr. Jonathan Pennington#20 - Questions, Answers, and a Little Bit of Debate#43 - And Don’t You Forget It: The Ascension of Jesus with Mason King#87 - The Imago Dei and the Cultural Mandate with Dr. Russell Moore#49 - A Conversation with Dr. Ligon Duncan#69 - P, B, in J#55 - Hot Tongues (Acts 2)#63 - A Blanket Full of Bacon#119 - Judgement and LawThe Cross and the Christian Life Forum with Dr. Ligon DuncanAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by the hosts of our sister shows: Adam Griffin, Chelsea Griffin, Cassie Bryant of Family Discipleship, Elizabeth Woodson of Starting Place with Elizabeth Woodson, Rebecca McLaughlin of Confronting Christianity, and engineer Brad. Questions Covered in This Episode: What the most fun part of making a podcast? Whats the least fun part of making a podcast?Engineer Brad: Who is the best podcast to work with? Who needs to be edited the most? Who has the most bloopers?What is your favorite episode this season?Have you ever had any strange experiences with people recognizing you from the podcast?If you had a podcast about anything else, what would it be?What is one thing you have learned from being a part of this podcast network?Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Starting Place w/ Elizabeth Woodson: The Psalms, Prayer, & Calling on God with John OnwuchekwaConfronting Christianity: Bonus Episode with Easter with Esau McCaulleyKnowing Faith: #177 – Brothers & Sisters: More Than A MetaphorKnowing Faith: #178 – Salvation: Union With ChristThe Family Discipleship Podcast: Freedom and Rest in Parenthood with Caroline CobbThe Family Discipleship Podcast: In the Eswine Home with Zach EswineThe Family Discipleship Podcast: School ChoicesThe Family Discipleship Podcast: Sissy GoffThe RewatchablesKnowing Faith: #44 – The Lord’s SupperThe Good Podcast CompanyAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

JT English and Kyle Worley celebrate and honor Jen Wilkin with a special surprise episode! Questions Covered in This Episode: How did you first meet Jen? What have you learned from her teaching and example?What have you learned from the faith and life of Jen?What is something that Jen is good at that is surprising?Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Hebrews 13:7, “Women of the Word” by Jen WilkinAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what cosmic restoration is and why it is important.  Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is this a neglected aspect of the doctrine of salvation?What is cosmic restoration?What are the two extreme views of cosmic restoration?How is cosmic restoration accomplished?Isn’t all this going to burn up anyways? Why does God care about the world?Why is the idea of Gnosticism so popular?Will there be dinosaurs in heaven?What is going to happen and why is this good news?Helpful Definitions: Cosmic Restoration: All of God's creation; both spiritual and physical, is going to experience true delight in the presence of God.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Ephesians 1:9-10, Revelation 21:1-6“Grounded in Heaven” by Mike AllenAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Gregg Allison, Jackie Hill Perry, Dr. Michael J. Kruger, Sam Allberry, and Jonathan T. Pennington. Questions Covered in This Episode: If we have the bible, why do we need creeds, confessions, and the writings of leaders, pastors, and theologians from church history?You've been traveling the country trying to direct people away from focusing on themselves and towards giving their attention to God, how is that going?What is our glory problem?What, in your opinion, is the most overlooked book in the New Testament and why should Christians spend time engaging with it?What has been the most helpful resource while studying Revelation?How would you encourage a Christian intimidated by confessing sin to other Christians?Why is it important that we read the bible not just for information, but for transformation?Helpful Definitions: The Bible: God’s written word to us, His People. His revelation of Himself and His ways so that we might be rescued from sin and we may worship God in ways that please Him.Creeds and Confessions: Statements of faith that express what the church believes and is to believe based on the entirety of scripture.Writings of Leaders from Church History: Treasures of wisdom from the past. Help us to know what we are to do in terms of rightly interpreting the bible, how to put the Bible together in terms of affirming and defending sound doctrine, and how to correctly live out biblical instructions so as to fully please God in life and ministry.Guest Bios: Dr. Gregg Allison is Professor of Christian Theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and the author of many books: He is the author of Historical Theology: An Introduction to Christian Doctrine; Sojourners and Strangers: The Doctrine of the Church; Roman Catholic Theology and Practice: An Evangelical Assessment; The Holy Spirit (Theology for the People of God); Embodied: Living as Whole People in a Fractured World; 50 Core Truths of the Christian Faith. Jackie Hill Perry is an author, poet, bible teacher and hip-hop artist. She is the author of Gay Girl, Good God: The Story of Who I Was, and Who God Has Always Been and the bible study “Jude: Contending for the Faith in Today’s Culture” and her most recent book: Holier than Thou: How God’s holiness helps us trust him. Dr. Michael J. Kruger serves as the President and Samuel C. Patterson Professor of New Testament and Early Christianity at the Charlotte campus of Reformed Theological Seminary. Sam Allberry is a pastor, apologist, author and speaker. He is the author of a number of books, including Is God Anti-Gay?; What God Has to Say About Our Bodies; Why Does God Care Who I Sleep With?; and 7 Myths about Singleness. Jonathan T. Pennington is currently Professor of New Testament Interpretation at Southern Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky (USA). He is also the Spiritual Formation Pastor at Sojourn East and regularly speaks and teaches in churches all over the country. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Romans 1, Revelation, James 5:16, 2 Corinthians 3:16-17Knowing Faith Episode #77 - The Holy Spirit with Gregg Allison“Canon Revisited” by Michael J Kruger“Revelation: A Shorter Commentary” by G. K. Beale“The Theology of the Book of Revelation” by Richard Bauckham“The Trinity in the Book of Revelation” by Brandon Smith“Come and See” by Jonathan PenningtonAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Patrick Schreiner to continue talking about the doctrine of salvation by looking specifically at the doctrine of glorification.  Questions Covered in This Episode: Where does glorification fit into the doctrine of salvation?When you first think of glorification, what comes to mind?What is the doctrine of glorification?How much of glorification is tied to the good rule and reign of humanity over all things?What are we saved to?Is being full of the Holy Spirit better than what Adam and Eve had in the garden?Isn’t my humanity bad?Is glorification just cosmetic or individual?You just finished a book on the Transfiguration, is that a picture of glorification?What is the path to glorification?Why do Moses and Elijah appear in the Transfiguration?During the Transfiguration, is this Moses’ first time to enter the Promised Land?Why is the doctrine of glorification good news?How is creation glorified? How are freedom and glorification tied together?Helpful Definitions: Glory: Heaviness or weightiness, usually describes who God is.Glorified: Entering or re-entering that perfect whole state of what it means to be in the image of God.Guest Bio: Dr. Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program and Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the author of a number of books, including a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, The Mission of the Triune God: A Theology of Acts, The Body of Jesus: A Spatial Analysis of the Kingdom in Matthew, The Kingdom of God and the Glory of the Cross, Matthew, Disciple and Scribe: The First Gospel and Its Portrait of Jesus,  and The Ascension of Christ: Recovering a Neglected Doctrine. He is married to Hannah and they have four children. You can follow him on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Romans 8:30, 2 Corinthians 3:18, 1 Corinthians 15, Romans 8, Colossians 1, Genesis 1:27, Romans 1, Romans 3:23, 1 Corinthians 1:15-20, Genesis 1-3, 1 John 3:2, Mark 9:3, 2 Peter 1:17, Exodus 33, 1 Kings 19, 2 Corinthians 4:17“Conformed to the Image of His Son” by Haley Goranson JacobAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Jason K. Allen of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary to have a conversation about biblical literacy and the relationship between the seminary institution and the local church. Questions Covered in This Episode: Could you share a bit about Midwestern’s journey over the last ten years?What have you learned about recovering the beauty of an institution for the good of its participants?How is the biblical literacy project going? What are we learning? What seems to be working? What are the hurdles?What does a healthy relationship look like between a seminary institution and the local church?Why is it crucial for us as Christians to be people of the book? Doesn’t Jesus chastise the Pharisees that they care too much about biblical literacy?How crucial is it that the pastors and church leaders that Midwestern sends out are leaders who value biblical literacy in their churches?Guest Bio: Dr. Jason K. Allen serves as the fifth president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Kansas City, MO. Dr. Allen serves the institution in the classroom, as professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. More broadly, he serves the church through his preaching and writing ministries as well. He is the author of several books including but not limited to; The SBC & the 21st Century and Discerning Your Call to Ministry. Dr. Allen regularly posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.” Resources Mentioned in This Episode: 1 Peter 2:4-10“Turnaround” by Jason K. AllenFor the Church InstituteAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to answer the question; what would we find interesting about Spurgeon’s views on the doctrine of salvation? Questions Covered in This Episode: What would we find interesting about Spurgeon’s views on the doctrine of salvation?Can someone be both evangelistic and Calvinist in their doctrine? And was Spurgeon unique in his ability to live between those two movements?If someone wants to learn from Spurgeon and his views on salvation, what is the one area that you would point them to in his teaching and his doctrine?What is going on at the Spurgeon Library?Guest Bio: Geoff Chang serves as Assistant Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library. He is a graduate of The University of Texas at Austin (B.B.A.), The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (M.Div.), and Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (Ph.D.). He also serves the Book Review Editor for History & Historical Theology at Themelios, the academic journal for The Gospel Coalition. He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry. He is married to Stephanie and they have three children. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Knowing Faith After The Fact: Spurgeon and the Trinity with Dr. Geoff Chang“The Soul Winner” by Charles Spurgeon“Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God” by J. I. Packer“Spurgeon V. Hyper-Calvinism” by Iain H MurrayAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at  www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the doctrine of salvation and have a conversation about sanctification. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is sanctification?How is it different from justification and glorification?How does sanctification address legalism and license?How does our context affect how we speak about sanctification?How are we sanctified?Why is sanctification good news and how does sanctification give us hope?Helpful Definitions: Sanctification: The working out of our salvation. Set free from the power of sin.Justification: Saved from the penalty of sin.Glorification: Set free from the presence of sin.Alien Righteousness: A righteousness outside of ourselves.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: 1 Corinthians 11:1, Hebrews 10:14, Romans 6, Galatians 2-3“Grounded in Heaven” by Michael AllenAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Bumpers to answer the question; how can a listener help their local church grow in theological discipleship? Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the For the Church Cohort?How can a listener help their local church grow in theological discipleship?What would you say to someone who says, “I believe what you are saying is crucial and that the local church should be where it is happening, but my church isn’t there right now.”Guest Bio: Jared Bumpers is the Assistant Professor of Preaching & Evangelism and For The Church Cohorts Faculty Coordinator at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Jared holds a B. S. in Pastoral Ministry from Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Missouri; a M.Div. from Luther Rice Seminary in Lithonia, Georgia; a Th.M. in Biblical Studies from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary in Lynchburg, Virginia; and a Ph.D. in Christian Preaching from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. His doctoral research focused on the hermeneutic and homiletic of John Albert Broadus. Jared is married to his wife, Kimberly, and they have four children: McCartnie, Rush, Maverick, and Jett. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: For the Church Cohort“The Wonderful Works of God” by Herman Bavinck“Pilgrim Theology” by Michael HortonCrossway Women of the WordAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by their spouses; Jeff Wilkin, Macy English, and Lauren Worley! Questions Covered in This Episode: Does JT quote Bavinck on date nights?How does it feel to be grandparents?Who is the “yes” parent and who is the “no” parent?What’s your favorite episode of Knowing Faith so far this season?Do any of y’all ever listen to an episode and think - “Why did I marry a weirdo/nerd?”What does ministry partnership look like for each of us?Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Knowing Faith Episode #38 -  Living with a TheologianThe Family Discipleship PodcastAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Joe Allen to answer the question; if God calls, why evangelize? Questions Covered in This Episode: If God calls, why evangelize?Is my obedience to evangelism of consequence or of faithfulness?If I go out today and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with my neighbor, am I walking in faithfulness to what God has said?If I go out and share the gospel with my neighbor today, can I have confidence God will do what I cannot do?Guest Bio: Dr. Joe M. Allen III serves as Assistant Professor of Missions at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He earned his Ph.D. in Applied Theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and his Th.M. in World Missions and Historical Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. Dr. Allen is the author of a series of theology books for kids called “Big Thoughts for Little Thinkers,” which includes The Trinity, The Gospel, The Scripture, and The Mission. He also wrote a gospel tract called, “Welcome to Heaven.” He is married to Christy, and they have two children, Claire and Joe IV. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: 1 Corinthians 3:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:19-20“Enquiry into the Obligations of Christians, to Use Means for the Conversion of the Heathens” by William CareyAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their conversation on the doctrine of salvation by discussing justification. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is justification the doctrine by which the church stands or falls?What is justification?Is justification “just as if I had never sinned”?Is what we have better than what Adam and Eve could have had?Why do we need to be justified?What is righteousness?Why would say that humanity, prior to the fall, did not enjoy union with Christ?What is the basic idea of justification?How does this relate to the doctrine of God?What is important for us as we consider this?How can I know that I have been justified?Helpful Definitions: Justification: To be declared right.Righteousness: A purity (covenant obedience to the law) that we lost that we can’t get back apart from it being imputed to us through Christ.Synonym: Holiness: Utter purity.Synonym: ObedienceTsaddiq (Hebrew: צַדִּיק): RighteousnessMishpat (Hebrew מִשְׁפָּט): JusticeResources Mentioned in This Episode: Romans 5, Revelation 21-22, Genesis 1-2, Galatians 2:15-21, Genesis 3, Romans 7, 2 Corinthians 5:21Affiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to answer the question, why is union with Christ the best news ever? Questions Covered in This Episode: Why is union with Christ the best news ever?How secure do you think Jesus is?Guest Bio: Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: John 17, Colossians 3:3, Ephesians 2:6Affiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation, union with Christ. Questions Covered in This Episode: What is the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation?Why does Paul continually use the preposition “in”?It is possible to live in this world as an individual not united to someone else?I grew up hearing Christ in me, not me in Christ; where is the emphasis? Why was I presented with the opposite?What is the doctrine of union with Christ?How have we imported modern conceptions of identity on being in Christ?What is the difference between dying to self and living with Christ and embracing those distinctions that you want to dignify?It is important to value diversity?How is union with Christ different from communion with God?If someone said they were feeling cold in their relationship with God, how would you respond to them?Helpful Definitions: Union with Christ:A believers identification in Christ and incorporation into the body of all of those who are identified with Christ before God.The unbreakable, unshakeable reception of all of God’s saving benefits.Unbreakable relationship with God held by Jesus for His people, received by grace through faith.Communion with Christ: Fellowship with God. The enjoyment of God’s saving benefits, it is shakeable and breakable and you can also deepen it.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Acts 9, John 17:1–26, Ephesians 1:3-10, Romans 6:1-11, Galatians 2:20, Romans 5:19, Colossians 1:27, Genesis 3, Luke 14:11, Revelation 5, Romans 16Crossway: Women of the WordKnowing Faith Episode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a MetaphorAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kyle Worley is joined by Matthew Barrett to answer the question, why was the doctrine of justification such a big deal during the reformation? Questions Covered in This Episode: Why was the doctrine of justification such a big deal during the reformation?This was a big deal for Luther, is this still a big deal today?Helpful Definitions: The Joyful Exchange: Christ takes our guilt and in return, by nothing of our own doing, we receive the perfect, flawless, righteousness of Christ.Guest Bio: Dr. Matthew Barrett is Associate Professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also the founder and executive editor of Credo Magazine. He is the author of numerous books including: Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit, None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God and God’s Word Alone: The Authority of Scripture. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: “Commentary on Galatians” by Martin LutherAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church. Sponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley come back to one of their most popular topics; brothers and sisters. Questions Covered in This Episode: Indisputably: This is something we get more feedback on than just about anything else…why is that?How has the culture shift affected this conversation?What has been the church's response to the shift in culture?What does the biblical doctrine of anthropology related to men and women have to affirm?When we say “we need each other,” what does that mean?What are the threats and liabilities of relationships? What about not having these relationships?Why are we using family-oriented language in this conversation?Does this apply to those who are not believers?How has this changed us? How has it changed our ministries?Why is getting this right crucial?Helpful Definitions: Adelphoi (ἀδελφοί): Brothers and sisters. The family of God.Philia: A kind of love that exists only among family, not just biologically but spiritually through the blood of Christ.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Crossway: Women of the Word“Jesus through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlinSponsors: Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaith Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the doctrine of salvation by talking about the doctrine of regeneration. Questions Covered in This Episode: What’s a doctrine?When we say “doctrine of salvation,” what do we mean?What is election?What is effectual calling?What is regeneration?When the Bible is talking about the heart, what is it talking about?What are other ways the Bible talks about this?How has the language of being “born again” changed?When does regeneration happen?What is the result of regeneration? Where does it lead?Helpful Definitions: Doctrine: A christian belief. Something we believe the Bible says to be true. Organizes and summarizes what the Bible teaches.Election: Before the foundation of the world God predestined, or set apart for himself, a people that He will secure their salvation.Doctrine of Salvation: How God saves his people.Effectual Calling: The specific work the the Spirit of God making an effectual impact in our hearts.Regeneration: When the heart that we have been given by nature is replaced with a new heart.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Ephesians 2:1, Ezekiel 36-37, John 3Crossway: Women of the WordEpisode #174 – Salvation: ElectionEpisode #176 – Salvation: CallingSponsors: Considering your calling and how to grow in your knowledge of the Bible? Explore Midwestern’s For the Church Institute which offers free, self-paced courses designed to equip you to serve the church more faithfully. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted from their patron supporters! To learn more and become a patron visit patreon.com/trainingthechurch. Questions Covered in This Episode: If we understand that Jesus, in His spiritual body, sits at the right hand of the Father after His ascension. How do we resolve the tension this presents to God's unchanging nature if before His ascension it was not Jesus in His spiritual body, particularly, but the Son of God that was at the Father's right hand?When reading the Psalms there often references to statutes, ordinances, laws, testimonies, commandments, and precepts given by God. Is there a significant difference in the meaning of these different words?I would love to hear each of you discuss the relationship between small groups and learning environments in your respective churches. How can these two spaces best complement one another without feeling competitive?What does a typical week look like for everyone (work, church, family, fun, rest time)?Would love your thoughts on good questions to explore with a teen in my home as we discuss this: Adam's sin resulted in all humanity being born with a sin nature and without Christ we 'can't not sin'. He believes it would've been more just for God to give each individual person a 'fruit on the tree' moment before they automatically 'receive' a sinful nature. In his view, we talk about someone who isn't a Christian choosing to sin, and yet at the same time, we believe that their nature is that they can't actually choose something different. This seems so contradictory to him. If God really wanted to give us a choice, why did he set us up to not be able to choose him first? Not us as in all humanity, but us as individuals. He doesn't think that 'we're human so we'd always fail' makes sense, because the reason that is true is because of the sin nature...so if it wasn't for that, we wouldn't necessarily fail.On the doctrine of simplicity: Is god wrath? I've heard God is love but has wrath. But is wrathful an attribute of God? If wrath is an attribute, then, in the new heavens and new earth, after judgement day, what is that wrath directed towards?"How did women in the OT share in the sign of the covenant?" How can something as important as the sign of the covenant between God's people could be reserved to something only men could do (aka. circumcision) and what if baptism as the sign of the new covenant was restricted to only men. Were women being left out of an essential part of what it meant to be in a relationship with God and his covenant people. Do y'all have any thoughts on this that might help resolve that tension?Often, we hear about heated conversations related to women as pastors but we never hear such discussions about single male pastors. But, of course Paul writes about singleness as something he recommends to the church. Was that only intended for his specific context? Or is it biblically unfaithful to exclusively have married men with families in pastoral or deacon roles?I have been focusing on Luke, and was freshly moved by the references to Mary treasuring up different revelations/experiences with Jesus (the shepherds visit after the angel of the Lord appearing to them and Jesus calling the temple his Father's house). Would it be appropriate to consider Luke as connecting Mary's experience with Psalm 119:11?Why is Ephesians off limits?Jen referred to Psalm 139 as the “lady Psalm,” - I’m wondering why she called it that?What are your takes on celebrating Christmas by incorporating Santa Claus and on celebrating Halloween. How do you go about making those decisions and giving grace to those who differ?If you could wave a magic wand, how would you organize a local church? What are the first three ministries you would focus on establishing in addition to the Sunday gathering?Kyle you have recommended several sci-fi or fantasy books or authors through the seasons. So far I have really enjoyed all of your recommendations could you make some more?The 6th command is “Do not Murder.” Why were the Israelites multiple times commanded to kill whole nations women and children?What obscure or lesser known and taught passages of the Bible are some of your favorites and deserve more notice?What about prophets/prophecy today? Is prophet a current office? What is a prophet today, or what is prophecy today? Can just anyone prophecy? Does any of it exist now?Considering recently the implications of The Father as the one who sends, I'm seeing James 1:17 in a new light. The Father is the one who sent Jesus, sends the Spirit, ... and is the direct sender of blessings? Is that what I should be taking away here? So a quick, heartfelt "Thank you, Jesus!" upon receipt of rain, provision, etc, may not be the best expression of gratitude, when it should be "Thank you, Father!"? Are we robbing God the Father of the worship due Him when we attribute His goodness to Christ? Are there other ways you can think of that we commonly misdirect worship to one person of the Godhead when it is deserved by the other (or ascribe it only to One when it should be to all Three)?Helpful Definitions: Prophet: Speaking on behalf of God.prophet: In tune with the Holy Spirit wanting to build up the life of the church.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Psalm 119:1-8, Psalm 19:7-9, Genesis 3:15-16, Luke 2:8-19, Luke 2:48-51, Psalm 119:11, Psalm 139, Kings 25, Exodus 1:15-21, Numbers 27:1-11, 1 Samuel 28, James 1:17The Chalcedonian Creed“Santa, Strategically” by Jen Wilkin“Lord of the Rings” by J.R.R. Tolkein“Red Rising” by Pierce Brown“Wingfeather Saga” by Andrew Peterson“Thursday Murder Club” by Richard Osman“The Terminal List” by Jack Carr10 Commandments Hand SignsAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. 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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the doctrine of salvation with a conversation about calling. Questions Covered in This Episode: Is there a difference between the general call of the gospel and “effectual calling?” If so, what is the difference?What is the purpose of the general call if not everyone responds to it?Where would we look to find this in scripture?When does the effectual calling happen? Who does the work of effectual calling?What would you say to someone who doesn’t have a specific moment they can point to where they were “saved”?Why is the doctrine of effectual calling good news?Helpful Definitions: General Calling: The gospel goes forward indiscriminately to all people.The external work of proclamation.Particular Calling: Specific to those who respond to the gospel effectually. God the Father will call people to the Son, those who are elect, by the power of the Holy Spirit and actually effect salvation in them. New affections to bring about transformation of heart, soul, mind, and strength to love Jesus with everything they have.The internal work of salvation.The Ordo Salutis (The Order of Salvation): Regeneration, Faith, Repentance, Justification, Adoption, Sanctification, Perseverance, Glorification.Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Genesis 12:1-3, Romans 8:28-30, Romans 10:14-17, John 6:60-71, Matthew 13The Gospel Coalition Conference: Code: KNOWINGFAITHCrossway: Women of the WordSponsors: Considering your calling and how to grow in your knowledge of the Bible? Explore Midwestern’s For the Church Institute which offers free, self-paced courses designed to equip you to serve the church more faithfully. Follow Us: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Our Sister Podcasts: The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting Place Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website Support Training the Church and Become a Patron: patreon.com/trainingthechurch You can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship. To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.